Post by: Wiz on December 30, 2003, 01:51:00 AM
Good work!
Post by: loki on January 03, 2004, 10:47:00 PM
Post by: spillage on January 04, 2004, 12:17:00 PM
I am currently writing several tuts on what I have done.
Post by: Big HDD on January 07, 2004, 08:02:00 PM
i am very interested in doing the all of those but the HVs.......I dont think ima be able to do it as good as u did it, but ill give it a try, and could u please tell us about how far u are on the tuts.......i would love to know!!!!!!
thanks,
Big HDD
Post by: spillage on January 08, 2004, 02:27:00 AM
Post by: Big HDD on January 08, 2004, 04:30:00 AM
Post by: spgurley on January 08, 2004, 01:07:00 PM
or if its small (5mb) enough i can host it online for a while or long time and it'll be super fast
zip it and rar it and tell us the sizes of both
EDIT: i can host 10mb, not 5
Post by: spillage on January 08, 2004, 01:32:00 PM
Spill
Post by: loki on January 08, 2004, 06:41:00 PM
Post by: Big HDD on January 09, 2004, 07:21:00 PM
http://www.radioshac.....ct_id=274-370
i got it and it fits almost perfectly on the back(about 3mm too tall, when horizontal), and i would use it like this:
1 :Coaxial
2 :Analog audio
3 :Component Video
1 :Composite Video
1 :Extra, could use for something, eigh?
Post by: Cyber-Man on January 09, 2004, 11:51:00 PM
Post by: Big HDD on January 10, 2004, 07:21:00 PM
This is a description of all the different points on the AVIP board. I copied this from word, and it was a table, so it may look different.
Pin Description Pin Description
1 Audio Right 13 Vcc
2 Audio Right GND 14 Audio Left
3 SP-DIF Digital Audio 15 Audio Left GND
4 V-Sync (VGA Mode) 16 H Sync (VGA Mode)
5 Mode GND 17 Mode Select 1
6 Mode GND 18 Mode Select 2
7 Mode GND 19 Mode Select 3
8 GND 20 +12v
9 Variable 21 Pin 22 GND
10 Pin 9 GND 22 Variable
11 Variable 23 Pin 24 GND
12 Pin 11 GN 24 Variable
....if u want the word document, u must download the file form here:
http://dwl.xbox-scen...ls/toslink2.zip
I was curious if these are right or not......
Post by: {{DEMON}} on January 10, 2004, 11:12:00 PM
Check out this link.
http://www.scifikg.c...xboxgallery.htm
he is SCIFIKG on the fourms
This guy added a VGA and a whole bunch of other stuff to his HTPC Xbox. It might be a help.
ALso any chance of this awsome mod of yours becoming a breakout box? That way we could hack the end of a cable and turn your mod into a breakout box that gets plugged into the XBOX?
Let me know.
Hows the TUT coming?
{DEMON}
Post by: spillage on January 12, 2004, 05:11:00 AM
Thanks for that link whcih I am checking now. I have abandoned the true VGA mod in favour of a work anywhere - can't tell the difference - X2VGA unit installed INSIDE the box.
Post by: spillage on January 12, 2004, 05:15:00 AM
Post by: EvilWays on January 12, 2004, 05:38:00 AM
Post by: spillage on January 13, 2004, 04:11:00 AM
Post by: spillage on January 14, 2004, 12:18:00 PM
I have also decided to abandon the slot drive project in favour of a normal SDG 605. I have to admit that I was only doing it to show off, the mod has beaten me would not afford me any further enhancement in operation. Should anyone know of a retailer selling the original Sammy 605 here in the UK for less the £70.00, I would be grateful if you could let me know. My XBOX has not had its lid on in over 6 months and I am fed up of seeing it half naked especially as I spent some considerable time polishing the top and illuminating the special edition look black jewel.
In other news I am fitting my box will a headphone socket, including a volume control. Anyone else agree that this addition would prove useful?
My tut format has also changed. I have decided to make it a complete tut on everything I have done to my box.
Sections will now include.
1 The Back Panel Project
2 The Polishing of the lid and front panel
3 My way, if different, of illuminating the jewel and ports
4 The headphone amplifier.
5 The front panel hinged door concealing the dips and upload terminal.
6 Adding 20 rims and low profile tyres.
Just joking about the headphone amp, oops I mean the rims. ;p
I am sorry if the delay, which wont be long I assure you, causes any grief.
Cheers
Spillage
Post by: EvilWays on January 14, 2004, 04:30:00 PM
Post by: Big HDD on January 15, 2004, 02:20:00 PM
also, spillage.....do u know if the true vga that u have hooked up would support a 17" or 19" samsung monitor.....cuz that is what im going to get.....i think its a dynaflat
Post by: spillage on January 16, 2004, 12:52:00 AM
Post by: EvilWays on January 16, 2004, 09:38:00 PM
Post by: spillage on January 17, 2004, 12:30:00 PM
Post by: EvilWays on January 17, 2004, 05:48:00 PM
Post by: spillage on January 18, 2004, 12:24:00 AM
I have decided to add something else to my new back panel setup.
I am going to install a Component video INPUT. Now don't get too excited because that does NOT mean access to the HDD. It means that I can present the X2VGA (internal) with an external interlaced Component signal and have it processed to progressive.
Thoughts???
Post by: Big HDD on January 18, 2004, 09:08:00 AM
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Post by: parpaset on January 18, 2004, 09:39:00 PM
i see that you used something other than rca jacks.
Post by: spillage on January 19, 2004, 12:02:00 AM
Mode Select
Ground Pin 11
Ground pin 13
Pin Connections on Mobo
Pin 16 - Ground connection for pin 18 (Pb)
Pin 17 - Ground connection for pin 19 (Pr)
Pin 18 - HDTV - Pb (Blue)
Pin 19 - HDTV - Pr (Red)
Pin 20 - Ground connection for pin 22 (Y)
Pin 22 - HDTV - Y (Luminance/Green)
Post by: Big HDD on January 20, 2004, 11:01:00 AM
and spillage, how would i wire up component out and then COAXIAL audio out?
I could just use the above reply's for component, then just solder 2 more points....... AVIP Pin # 6 for the data(center), and AVIP Pin # 24 for the audio ground(edge)???
I got the info off of the guy's site that is doing the all-in-one a/v cable.....
http://www.freedomfo.....0AV Cable.htm
is this correct(i dont need to switch, b/c i will be using component and surround sound the whole time)?????
Post by: spillage on January 20, 2004, 12:45:00 PM
You post has all the answers. So yes go for it and you should be cool.
Post by: EgoX on January 21, 2004, 01:09:00 PM
Post by: EvilWays on January 21, 2004, 03:45:00 PM
Post by: Big HDD on January 21, 2004, 05:06:00 PM
First of all, I started the component and coaxial out, and had the output board all wired up, and then it was the last couple of steps on the motherboard connections, and i mad too big of a tin, and it BLOPPED BETWEED 3 POINTS!!!!!!
thank god my patience helped as i got it all off, reassembled the box as it was b4 the operation, and everything works like normal......now i am debating whether or not i should do this....one's for sure though....i am waiting on the tutorial b4 i do any more!
Post by: spillage on January 22, 2004, 11:55:00 AM
Tut is undergoing more refinement as is the box. Currently my box has no back panel. The old has been cut out.
Post by: {{DEMON}} on January 23, 2004, 10:02:00 PM
SOON?
Thnaks!
{DEMON}
Post by: spillage on January 25, 2004, 02:52:00 AM
Post by: spillage on January 25, 2004, 02:54:00 AM
Post by: {{DEMON}} on January 25, 2004, 09:57:00 PM
Looking forward to more of your work, hoping to learn more from your work and hope that soon i can start my project that i have inked baised on this thread.
stop making us drool... show us the money!
Anticapating the new photos of your work
{DEMON}
Post by: EvilWays on January 26, 2004, 03:59:00 AM
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Post by: spillage on January 26, 2004, 01:48:00 PM
The scene is full to bursting with images of XBOX stripped down, but I think I will be the only one to post pics of the X2VGA which kind of makes me easy to pick off. EvilWays,
Use only 75ohm for video connections. 50ohm and 75ohm connectors look the same but are physically different. Inserting a 75ohm plug into a 50ohm socket can cause socket damage and vice versa. 50ohm connectors are for radio transmitting equipment.
Post by: {{DEMON}} on January 27, 2004, 05:47:00 PM
{DEMON}
Post by: EvilWays on January 28, 2004, 06:24:00 AM
Post by: gerzand on January 28, 2004, 06:55:00 AM
Gerzand
Post by: Ben999_ on January 28, 2004, 12:13:00 PM
Post by: MrOnline on January 28, 2004, 12:30:00 PM
Post by: spillage on January 28, 2004, 02:01:00 PM
Post by: EvilWays on January 28, 2004, 07:26:00 PM
Post by: spillage on January 29, 2004, 04:33:00 AM
I have had permission from Neoya (X2VGA) to publish photos that have been distorted by a mosaic filter. The message more or less suggests, by my way of reading, that I will be f**ked if I show decent photos. Their product is the best out there so I guess they want it to stay that way. I asked guys because I would be easy pickings else.
Post by: Big HDD on January 29, 2004, 11:57:00 AM
also, is there gonna be a normal tut on how to make a vga-out for a Sync-On-Green monitor, no x2vga or lm1881 splitter required(i cant afford an x2vga, and cant buy a lm1881 on the net, and cant find it in stores!)?
b/c im gonna buy a SOG monitor if that info is available in the tut....thanks!
Post by: spillage on January 29, 2004, 01:22:00 PM
PLEASE NOTE THAT UNDERTAKING THE BACK PANEL MOD MY WAY INVOLVES REMOVING THE AVIP FROM THE MOBO.
Post by: EvilWays on January 29, 2004, 02:05:00 PM
I ordered enough parts to do 10 jobs (or less if I screw up).
Post by: spillage on January 31, 2004, 03:47:00 PM
I would suggest there may well be achance the Focus encoder is the same or similar in pin outs to the Conexant thus saving Billy Boy the trouble of having a new or revised mobo made. Be interesting to see what you have found out.
Post by: EvilWays on February 01, 2004, 12:26:00 PM
Post by: spillage on February 02, 2004, 12:24:00 PM
I think there are benefits to all the mods that result in VGA.
The LM1881 mod, works. I have done it and after much messing around got an ace image. I traced my problems down to screening or lack of. My new mod uses screen coax throughout and consequently the issues are gone. I gave my LM1881 mod to TB_88 and he reports all is well with it. Its basic, cheap and works.
The off the mobo mod is really for those who want the ultimate VGA o/p and nothing else.
The mod I am now doing integrating the X2VGA into the box provides not only faultless VGA but also the analogue audio and composite on one PCB which makes for a neater panel. You do not need a VGA bios but you do need to hack the M$ for progressive.
Post by: EvilWays on February 02, 2004, 08:19:00 PM
My reason for both systems on the same perfboard is nothing more than comparative analysis. This would allow me to see the difference of stripping off the sync signals from green versus tapping into pure H/V signals off the mobo and feeding it to a VGA connector. "Shits and giggles" really. Besides, not all monitors are the same...some might be more flexible (therefore no real need for a 74HC14 setup), while some might be anal retentive (which would probably call for the 74HC14 setup), and I'd like to offer this type of mod to my friends...this will let me see which would be better.
Post by: spillage on February 03, 2004, 12:37:00 PM
Just renewed my subscription to Widescreen Review so the hunt for a kick ass, 1080i or p native direct view, maybe RPTV CRT display starts.
With respect to a 1.5v supply, I would advise the use of an LM317.LM317 data sheetIt will supply 1.5v with good stability. Check out the data sheet.
Post by: spillage on February 04, 2004, 01:27:00 PM
YUV to VGA adaptor
With no plug inserted into to the AVIP the video encoder is helpless.
To save me uploading the chart of pins out checkout L33 tut here.
L33 tut
Post by: EvilWays on February 04, 2004, 01:30:00 PM
Bad news is that it costs £30,000 according to the only site I found with a price on it.
I'd like to find a via that's tied to pin 40 of the Conexant chip...or see if there's already a regulator "upstream" that's supplying it the 1.5V.
Post by: spillage on February 04, 2004, 01:34:00 PM
Post by: EvilWays on February 05, 2004, 10:15:00 AM
Post by: spillage on February 05, 2004, 12:25:00 PM
Post by: EvilWays on February 06, 2004, 07:53:00 AM
The test for 74HC14 compatibility on whatever version I get will begin then.
But I also forgot I only have a Matrix modchip, so I may get a SmartXX (since it should be out by the time I get my refunds plus the new Xbox)...
Post by: spillage on February 06, 2004, 12:40:00 PM
Post by: {{DEMON}} on February 06, 2004, 11:55:00 PM
Here is the link
http://cgi.ebay.com/...item=3075942179
Better than $20,000
Post by: EvilWays on February 07, 2004, 08:03:00 PM
Post by: Big HDD on February 09, 2004, 02:52:00 PM
maybe a report on it....u know.....est. % complete, est. time of arrival....what ur doing with it right now, etc......
thx!
Big HDD
Post by: EvilWays on February 09, 2004, 09:13:00 PM
Update on the 74HC14 mod: finally got me a multimeter (RatShack catalog #22-812 (online, in stores it's #220-0812)), and I think I have found the three points needed to solder wires to the chip (rather than wiring from the encoder chip directly to the 74HC14), based on a dead v1.0 board I have. All three points are on the underside of the board. As soon as I get a digital camera from KingViper, and as soon as I get a working mock-up running on my working v1.0 board, I'll be able to verify if those points are the needed ones, and then it's just a matter of getting a modchip (damn Matrix only having 256KB of BIOS space). I should also have a v1.5 mobo/hdd/psu in a week or so, so work on the Focus chip will commence.
Post by: Big HDD on February 12, 2004, 10:51:00 AM
this site has all the info u should need.....
and it is verified by Spillage....so that should be all you need.....i didnt read your post carefully, so this may not answer your question....
Post by: Big HDD on February 12, 2004, 10:57:00 AM
Post by: spillage on February 14, 2004, 02:38:00 PM
Post by: Dan Wysocki on February 15, 2004, 02:26:00 PM
Post by: spillage on February 15, 2004, 02:53:00 PM
Post by: spillage on February 16, 2004, 08:53:00 AM
Post by: spillage on February 16, 2004, 08:55:00 AM
Post by: spillage on February 19, 2004, 10:42:00 AM
. To call RGB, component video is not incorrect but technically confusing. RGB and Component are NOT the same at all. Component (Y/YPr/YPb) video is a low bandwidth derivative, that is to say has less detail, of RGB. Visually they are nearly indisguishable. Unlike RGB there is no discreet Green in Component. It is mathematically generated by subtracting colour from R and B. RGB is the standard for European domestic consumer goods and Component the default for the States. Component video is the format DVDs are written in as it provides very good quality and requires less data to represent.The XBOX does NOT output Component in RGB Scart mode, for a start the jumper settings are different and secondly if it did produce Component us Brits would be f**ked as Component TVs here are kinda thing on the ground.
You can have the first three outputs you listed simultaneously but not Component as well. See my posting on AVIP Mode Select.
Post by: spillage on February 20, 2004, 01:05:00 PM
Post by: EvilWays on February 23, 2004, 07:08:00 PM
I might look into buying them anyways, and sell completed circuits (or maybe just the chip so ppl don't have to buy in bulk).
Post by: spillage on February 24, 2004, 12:52:00 AM
Post by: EvilWays on February 24, 2004, 07:23:00 AM
Post by: {{DEMON}} on February 24, 2004, 08:59:00 PM
)Back in the days of dreamcast i used a Max Pic for my DC programming cable, I was able to request a sample of 2 and it was at my door in 1 week (USA HERE).
I might even have that Pic around, i have to look.. I believe it is the same model number that I used for the DC coders cable. I requested like 10 samples, i know i have extra's around somewhere, let me look.. If it is the same one you guys need Ill send it to ya's.
Spillage I had a question for ya.
How easy is it to add a headphone jack or a headphone jack with volume control?
If i hard soldered it to the MB .. can i still use the RCA jacks or the optical from my Hight Def pack to get sound at the same time? Are there any con's to using a headphone jack.
Is there a tutorial for the Headphone jack?
Thanks,
{DEMON}
Post by: blueinfinity on February 24, 2004, 10:12:00 PM
Post by: {{DEMON}} on February 25, 2004, 08:30:00 AM
{DEMON}
Post by: spillage on February 25, 2004, 01:41:00 PM
Post by: EvilWays on February 25, 2004, 05:48:00 PM
Post by: spillage on February 26, 2004, 07:49:00 AM
Post by: EvilWays on February 26, 2004, 10:06:00 AM
Post by: spillage on February 26, 2004, 01:49:00 PM
Post by: {{DEMON}} on March 02, 2004, 12:34:00 AM
IF so thanks in advance.
Also, can u have a headphone jack hooked up and still use the optical and rca outputs on the highdef av pack?
Thanks,
{DEMON}
PS: how long till we see all your work?
Post by: spillage on March 02, 2004, 03:43:00 AM
Yes you can still have the AVIP loaded with an M$ cable and use all functionality. It is only video that you can't just split off to more than one destination.
My tut is coming along and certainly taking longer than I expected, not alot I can do about that sorry DEMON. As I write the tut, I plan stuff in advance, write about it, then use it as a build guide then rewrite stuff that has changed or been improved. I then have two people reading it, then it comes back to me for editting. So many people seem to be interested it what I am doing so I am trying my best to make it a good one.
I am waiting for a company proto-typing my PCB board for video distribution, to get back to me and tell me what it will cost etc. At the same time I am designing it myself using PCB Wizard 3 Pro, but they are professionals I am not. There is a possibilty that they could supply the boards to others who wish to use it. I need to check on that myself. This time round the back apnel is a little more complex. But should be easier to do as I have said previously, it can be made off the case, then fitted as a whole unit later.
Post by: {{DEMON}} on March 02, 2004, 10:36:00 PM
As for messaging me on IRC, yep thats me, but i don't seem to be around when you are, Im not ignoring you it's that i leave my pc on 24/7 and im not here alot. But im sure ill catch you one day.
Ill get back to you when i have some more to share,
Thanks again
{DEMON}
Post by: spillage on March 03, 2004, 04:07:00 AM
Post by: spillage on March 04, 2004, 04:38:00 AM
The decision has been made based on three factors.
1 It gets way to hot and will fail soon after completeion.
2 I had to remove the sockets from the X2VGA to position it under the DVD drive. Those woth Thompson or Philips drives may not be able to do this because of the bulge underneath. The Samsung I have is flat.
3 A Hi-Fi width case will look cool, provide more space and mean more people can have a go without messing up a stock case. The case I choose will be readily available and need no special tools to configure. NO part of the XBOX PCB or interanl components will need to be modified. The AVIP could remain on the mobo but have a retail lead plugged in to take the signals out to the respective sockets. If someone wants to return there box to normal they can.
More as it happens.
For those who feel that a recase is cheating, be aware of the thermal issues all the extra stuff brings. If you want to stuff your box with high CFM fans, knock yourself out. I am disappointed but want reliability as well as the features.
Post by: EvilWays on March 04, 2004, 07:30:00 AM
Post by: spillage on March 04, 2004, 11:07:00 AM
Post by: EvilWays on March 04, 2004, 06:34:00 PM
There's a tut out for watercooling the Xbox, but I want a cleaner looking setup, and I might tut that for shits-and-giggles.
Post by: spillage on March 05, 2004, 02:22:00 AM
Nice one thanks.
Was playing PGR2 this morning, with my box is laid out on newspaper.
Post by: simonduz on March 05, 2004, 06:08:00 PM
I know this sounds crazy, but I gotta ask.
Any chance you can box something like this up and sell it as a mod? <
Post by: spillage on March 07, 2004, 08:09:00 AM
It would be totally doable to make all the outputs project in an external case. You would however need one of those third party, non M$ cables that has most if not all connections wired. I think Joytech does one that has 'S' Video, RGB analogue audio, digital audio etc already wired. Because RGB uses the same pins in the AVIP as Component, you could have that too. No modification to the box would be necassary.
The lead would need to be cut open, carefully so it could be resealed, to allow access to the three Mode Select pins and an earth. The dip switches shown inmy poor 'artists' impression would select the output type you want. Because of the all the space in the empty case you could also install a 5 or 8 port hub if you wanted or a wireless access point. It would also open up another arean for you LED/neon/cold cathode lovers.
The photo below is NOT of my XBOX but a loaner I have from a friend cause mine is in bits.
Post by: phrozenfeonix on March 07, 2004, 02:00:00 PM
Post by: spillage on March 07, 2004, 02:29:00 PM
Pin 3 is Left audio out
Pin 4 is Right Gnd
Pin 5 is Left Gnd
Pin 21 is Composite Gnd
Pin 23 is Composite out
Pin 9 to Gnd (Pin 10)
Pin 11 to Gnd (Pin 12
Extract from third party data, but it works for me.
Post by: spillage on March 09, 2004, 03:29:00 PM
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Post by: TMG8 on March 11, 2004, 07:58:00 AM
check my post head phone + right left output
(IMG:http://www.xboxdash.org/php/images/Hardware/Audio/Xbox.jpg)
(IMG:http://www.xboxdash.org/php/images/Hardware/Audio/PotarB2.jpg) <
Post by: spillage on March 11, 2004, 10:26:00 AM
Headphone Amp tutorial
Post by: phrozenfeonix on March 11, 2004, 10:27:00 PM
Post by: spillage on March 12, 2004, 04:15:00 AM
All the connections in the drawings work for me without issue. I have noticed that some folks reckon you can get RF from the AVIP, I disagree with this but suggest that the RF setting is simply NTSC or PAL with mono audio for modulation by an RF adaptor.
(IMG:http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/392648/AVIPPINOUTCHART.gif)
(IMG:http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/392648/AVIPPLUGPINOUT.gif)
(IMG:http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/392648/AVIPSOCKETPINOUT.gif)
(IMG:http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/392648/AVIPSOCKETPCBUNDERSIDE.gif) <
Post by: laxb0y1o on March 13, 2004, 10:54:00 AM
Would i need any others? or ground anything out? <
Post by: EvilWays on March 13, 2004, 09:10:00 PM
| QUOTE (laxb0y1o @ Mar 13 2004, 07:43 PM) |
| So if i wanted to hook up Component Cables (RED BLUE GREEN) i would need pins 18,19,22. Would i need any others? or ground anything out? |
16, 17, and 20 are the grounds for those pins according to spillage's chart. And looks like 11 -> 12 and 13 -> 14 need to be set for component video. (L33's chart, scroll down to the bottom)
Post by: phrozenfeonix on March 14, 2004, 04:50:00 PM
Post by: pdottz on March 14, 2004, 06:49:00 PM
since the the xbox needs av cable plugged in when it boots or else it just blinks orange and green.
I want to use regular rca cables and never have to use the avip connector again. what do I solder so the xbox boots fine without having the avip connector connected?
using the pinouts from here.
http://www.freedomfo.....0AV Cable.htm
Post by: EvilWays on March 14, 2004, 10:45:00 PM
| QUOTE (pdottz @ Mar 15 2004, 04:49 AM) |
| I want basic outs. RCA video//L//R. the yellow red and white cables since the the xbox needs av cable plugged in when it boots or else it just blinks orange and green. I want to use regular rca cables and never have to use the avip connector again. what do I solder so the xbox boots fine without having the avip connector connected? using the pinouts from here. http://www.freedomfo.....0AV Cable.htm |
Three SPST switches. One switch controls pins 9 and 10, the second controls pins 11 and 12, and the third pins 13 and 14. These are mode selects and are automatically set when you plug in your cords to the AVIP. The chart listed on the site you linked shows three settings, and shows that all three switches would need to be in the on position.
Post by: spillage on March 15, 2004, 02:22:00 AM
Post by: EvilWays on March 16, 2004, 07:26:00 AM
I'm also in the process of prepping my working v1.0 mobo (haven't installed the new modchip yet, but should be done today) and I'm finalizing how the breadboard will contain both the 74HC14 and LM1881N chips (in sockets), wires and switch. I may end up looking at designing a PCB later on. Once the breadboard is prepped, just gotta prep my VGA cable (just took a VGA extension cable and cut it in half).
Post by: spillage on March 16, 2004, 01:48:00 PM
I am debating whether to use alternative to MAX chips for multi O/P's as a PCB with top side screening is essential. That means people making or buying a board from a local company. I have located ready built distribution amps with one in and three outs for £10 built and tested. Three would be needed. That's a lot cheaper and easier for everyone. PCB companies are still being checked by me for a prototyper and repeat pattern service so that folks can buy from them if they want.
Currently working on custom case.
Post by: EvilWays on March 16, 2004, 04:45:00 PM
I didn't wanna do a pinheader install for my SmartXX so that I could put a waterblock on the MCPX chip later on, but looks like I may need to go that route (had it "installed" and the Xbox wouldn't power on...may have been a short, I don't know).
Just another minor setback...
Post by: spillage on March 17, 2004, 09:54:00 AM
What do water cooling systems cost, ballpark? I plan to have 5 fans including MCPX cooler in my new custom case.
Post by: EvilWays on March 17, 2004, 02:52:00 PM
SmartXX and Xenium support LCD.
Price of a watercooling system depends on how "big" you make the system.
Post by: laxb0y1o on March 18, 2004, 02:01:00 AM
| QUOTE (EvilWays @ Mar 14 2004, 02:10 AM) | ||||||||||||||||||||
| [QUOTE=Evilways Thursday March 18, 6:55 Post by: spillage on March 18, 2004, 02:09:00 AM Post by: laxb0y1o on March 18, 2004, 02:18:00 AM HERE Post by: dammsaint on March 18, 2004, 05:34:00 AM Post by: EvilWays on March 18, 2004, 08:32:00 AM
No need to take pin 11 to both pin 12 and ground, as pin 12 is a grounding point (as are pins 10 and 14). Unless that's the only A/V option you want, I'd recommend switches for grounding/opening those points. The end pin of a SPST switch would be wired to AVIP pin 10, 12, or 14 and the middle pin of the switch to the matching AVIP pin (9, 11, or 13...follow the order). The pins would then be "connected" or "grounded" when the switch completes the circuit and "not connected" or "opened" otherwise. Post by: laxb0y1o on March 19, 2004, 05:24:00 AM I am sry but i just don't want ot get this wrong HERE! Post by: CybBlade on March 19, 2004, 08:44:00 AM
Post by: EvilWays on March 19, 2004, 11:06:00 AM  So it'd be: nothing - pin 9 or 11 or 13 - pin 10 or 12 or 14. Best setup would be three switches, which would be: nothing - pin 9 - pin 10 nothing - pin 11 - pin 12 nothing - pin 13 - pin 14 The three switch option is best in case you decide to add more output options without the need of the AVIP (future-proofing). Post by: spillage on March 19, 2004, 12:09:00 PM Note: I am using dip switches for the AVIP mode selectors. They are tiny and cannot be hit or bust. Well maybe a 9mm might do it.
Post by: EvilWays on March 19, 2004, 05:22:00 PM Looking at what bestplayer.de is selling for LCDs, they are selling at least two that are available from crystal (one of them being the CFAH2004A-GGB-JP). I'd say 96.8mm x 39.3mm, but double check with someone in the SmartXX forum. Post by: spillage on March 20, 2004, 03:43:00 AM I noticed also that I can get the SmartXX from Germany too. My custom case is coming along nicely am at the point now where after designing it and drawing up 1:1 plans, I choose to do it myself or have a company do it. Dont forget your free software worth $349 value at the conference. Just checked BP and note they have the LCD with the neater bezel, nice. Thanks. £20 plus shipping. SmartXX chip is £30 plus shipping. Post by: EvilWays on March 20, 2004, 05:40:00 AM I didn't spend two semesters learning about Access and one semester learning VBA for Access for nothing...to each their own I guess. Post by: spillage on March 20, 2004, 09:33:00 AM Look forward to seeing your work when you're done. Post by: spillage on March 20, 2004, 02:46:00 PM Tut is progressing OK. I have written and rewritten quite alot over the last week or so. Efforts are being focused on learning how to use Dreamweaver and my custom case at the moment. Am also seriously considering changing to a SmartXX from my current 2.2pro. Post by: EvilWays on March 21, 2004, 12:19:00 PM Post by: spillage on March 21, 2004, 02:25:00 PM Post by: Big HDD on March 28, 2004, 01:44:00 PM but im not just gonna type "bump".....yesterday i spent a fgew hours doing multiple xbox mods......the only a/v-related one was making a cable. i was gonna just solder them straight to the avip, but i tried that about 2 months ago and almost messed it up for good....so i played it safe this time and just made a cable with component out and coaxial digital out.....gonna put normal a/v on it next weekend....thanks spillage and L33 for the info you two have given me indirectly......w/o u 2 i would have spent 20 bux! Post by: spillage on March 28, 2004, 02:21:00 PM Anyways, I can't, well won't, tell you anything about my new case except to say that the decision to make it myself or sub contract is still in the air. I have borrowed a portable industrial sheet metal bender and have access to a metal working band saw, so we'll see. However the design of my new case is also 'on' file at the contractors so if he can do it for a sensible price, that means £100 or less, I would like to see someone buy one from him. I know what you're thinking now about new cases but I am making it for me, not to sell, but for me. If the contractor comes up with the goods I will simple post saying where you can get one, no promises, no strings. What I will say is that it will be 3mm aluminium and supplied without finish. They can do finishes but it will be far less painful to have a rotating pineapple jammed up your arse, than pay up! I am going to use acid etch primer from an auto shop. It's expensive but provides a tough finish. The design has changed slightly to allow someone to build everything in the tut and add the expensive video distribution pcb later. Still working on exactly how I will achieve this. Video distribution requires, in my mod anyway, a manufactured pcb, total cost is estimated at aprox £70, which quite a lot just to get two video o/ps at the same time. As previously mentioned I want to change my chip to the rather tasty SmartXX and am deciding whether to fit the LCD or use a small LCD TFT screen like the Hip Screen. Hip Screen Posting by Forta-Kon If the LCD is perfectly visible, at close quarters to see music selection etc with XBMC then I will use one instead of the LCD (20x4 display). Hopefully I have solved the common cooling issue for my WD2500BB. HDD Heatsinks Big HDD you must either spying on me or we're connected somehow I was thinking the same thing so I posted this as an update. I am glad the I have been able to help you. Anyone is welcome to pm or post issues concerning video and I will do my best to help.
Post by: EvilWays on March 31, 2004, 06:01:00 PM
Maybe just add a link to the design template and let everyone else worry about making, or having someone else, make the PCB. Post by: spillage on April 01, 2004, 02:11:00 AM
Post by: spillage on April 01, 2004, 09:43:00 AM If the guy who thought of the jewel power switch reads this please get in touch. I will try to find you myself but can't for the life of me remember where I read about your clever jewel. Post by: frescoelamante688 on April 01, 2004, 03:18:00 PM Edit: Wheres a good tut on installing an rf plug(the kind that comes from the wall with cable tv right?) Post by: spillage on April 02, 2004, 12:57:00 AM This RF business, has cropped up before. You cannot have an RF output on your xbox directly from the AVIP - it does not exist. The settings in the AVIP mode select chart simply indicate what status the encoder will take when inserting an RF adaptor. The RF adaptor is a simple modulator that you could install inside the xbox if needs must or of course you cherish the worst connection possible. I suggest going for the best your display will allow. Post by: frescoelamante688 on April 02, 2004, 11:49:00 AM Post by: spillage on April 02, 2004, 01:12:00 PM Post by: speedy_g on April 04, 2004, 01:19:00 PM It's good to see somebody how has really gotten into this thing and even sharing the knowledge with everything. I'm looking to forward to see you're tut ready. All the best to you and your project! Post by: spillage on April 04, 2004, 02:02:00 PM I have been into this sort of thing for what, 20 years I suppose, I am 33 this year. Gaming has always been something that I could turn to in times of stress and heartache. I have only really been heavily involved in gaming since the XBOX came along, nowadays - I can't stop; especially link up. I don't have broadband in my area nor does Live appeal but a room full of mates is brilliant. You can also punch the bastard that's just killed or overtaken you. Got a 3 day LAN bender this easter holiday with 17 peeps coming, so I am trying to find some time to practise the usual games like Halo, Counter Strike and PGR2. Because I have always been technically minded and am able to turn my hand to build more-or-less anything, plus the fact I have been on the sick since July 10th with heart disease, XBOX modding is a great escape. There aren't many folks on this forum, that I read posts by, that would hide their work and ideas. Communications is the only way we can learn so the work I am putting into my new case and the tutorial although hard, time consuming and fun is for the benefit of everyone. Without this forum and the modders that have spent their free time posting, I would never have known the XBOX could be so much fun. Plus the fact, I would be lying if I said I didn't think, having someone else copy my ideas wouldn't be cool. I am hoping all my work will be well recieved, copied and adapted.
Post by: speedy_g on April 05, 2004, 01:32:00 AM Same thing with me if I get my self an inspiration in the middle of the night , I just have to go our garage and start making it otherwise I can't sleep. Sorry to hear about your condition, but as you at least you have somethings you dig into on those hard times. If there weren't these great site like xbox-scene and this great forum, I think the scene would be this big. It's great that people share information that other people can learn of. I wouldn't have also know this much and have spent endless hours in the garage with my XBOX open. I thinks using others ideas and so on, is good and should be used and I've seen that people here at xbox-scene understand that props go to the "father" of the idea. You've been gathering info bits by bits and made a great "complete" mod. I wouldn't have got the idea of putting all of the connections in the back, I was thinking of just making the sych separator mod, but now that I know you can lot's more. I'm going for the big thing So as I said keep up the good work, 'cause I've noticed also in here that people with great ideas aren't forgotten. Post by: spillage on April 05, 2004, 06:44:00 AM
Post by: spillage on April 06, 2004, 05:52:00 AM My polished front panel, illuminated ports, modded HDD caddy with the D25 and dip switches and an X2.2Pro are still up for grabs for anyone wishing to buy me an LCD 20x4 for the SmartXX. The are a set and rely on each other to function. Post by: EvilWays on April 07, 2004, 02:10:00 PM The conference in Omaha was alright, but the nightlife was much better Nothing new to mention as far as the pure sync signal setup...the trip left me completely broke and I'm still without a working 1.0 or 1.1 mobo, but that'll give me some time to clean up the layout of the breadboard with both the LM1881 and 74HC14 chips and the toggle switch (looked like two spiders otherwise ).
Post by: spillage on April 07, 2004, 03:00:00 PM
Post by: phrozenfeonix on April 10, 2004, 11:17:00 PM  now it's just a matter of getting my other box as cool... that and i dont got the 110 cdn for another x23bp
Post by: spillage on April 11, 2004, 03:18:00 PM Post by: phrozenfeonix on April 12, 2004, 09:55:00 PM it's not like i need the LPT flash set, it's not even set up on my current box, hehe, i just use flashx if i wanna update my bios (so sexy) but im not understanding how you modded the upload socket part, i mean, all i need is just the chip itself, the switch bank and the wires leading between them, thanks for being courteous about it and i absolutely love the RCA mod, it's the best thing i've ever done to any console personally!!
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Post by: {{DEMON}} on April 16, 2004, 01:07:00 AM This post rocks.... Whats behond that door you created? Was up with all those small pic's what am I looking at.. I went back a few pages and it don't really seem to explain it's self. ALso saw some of those pic's in the hardware modding fourm. Whats going on behind that door and in that case of yours? PS: Go back to your old avitar.. It took me months to realise i was looking at the face of a CAT.. It was the cooolest Avitar ever seen... I like it better than the knight in shining armor.. but then again that will be you when that tutorial is done!.. Till later, {DEMON} Post by: spillage on April 16, 2004, 06:12:00 AM I have only just noticed that it looks like a knight in armour. It's actually a close quarter radar guided 30mm rapid fire anti aircraft cannon that can fire about 4500 shells a minute. There is not escape!!My cat in the photo does make a good avatar so I have returned her. Thanks.
Post by: EvilWays on April 16, 2004, 08:15:00 AM
Phalnax System? Post by: spillage on April 16, 2004, 12:26:00 PM I have two shells from one. I would not like to be on the end of one of those babies.
Post by: speedy_g on April 22, 2004, 01:49:00 AM Don't die on me.... =) Sold my X2.3b pro and now waiting for Smartxx.... then i'll start doing the vga thingy =) Allthough i have the audiohack meantime... Post by: spillage on April 22, 2004, 03:10:00 AM I am up to my ar*e in xbox modding, life etc you know the usual stuff. I think the whole AV forum has been a bit dead recently and nothing much seems to be happening on the case modding forum either. Maybe folks are on holiday or school etc. Anyways, I have remade one of the sides for my new case as it did not line up 100%. Am now debating on leaving the aluminium polished or to go for black anodising. I have removed the RAM from my donor mobo from XBOXBREAKERS without issue. I can't fit them to my mobo cause I have another LAN party shortly and we need my box (what's left of it) to be a dedicated server. Tut is coming on nicely but still has some way to go. I think it's 60% done now after much rewritting and grammer checking. Got to bear in mind that I am also learning how to use Dreamweaver as I go along. It will come and I know it will be worth.
Post by: speedy_g on April 22, 2004, 07:27:00 AM Post by: spillage on April 22, 2004, 11:02:00 AM
Post by: spillage on April 23, 2004, 12:36:00 PM
Welcome EnTeR This is a great forum; you should love it and what you can do to your XBOX! Checkout the Case Modding forums for ideas and the others for technical assistance. I own an X2VGA and I think it's a great product. There is another good one but I can't remember what's it called. No doubt someone reading this thread will refresh my memory.
Post by: spillage on April 24, 2004, 01:55:00 AM Post by: EnTeR on April 24, 2004, 02:17:00 AM Post by: spillage on May 05, 2004, 01:23:00 PM
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Post by: spillage on May 07, 2004, 12:44:00 PM Post by: EvilWays on May 16, 2004, 12:23:00 PM Post by: spillage on May 16, 2004, 02:47:00 PM markav28...the cable I used is 0.6mm diameter low current hook up cable. nothing special, very cheap. Got it from CPC Post by: Pandoriaantje on May 18, 2004, 07:42:00 AM i've just got some parts for my internal VGA mod (schmitt trigger, VGA port). but i'm somewhat in the dark on wich cables to use.. they suggested me to use 75ohm coaxial cable but would i be ok with some 30AWG kynar wire i have laying around? Post by: spillage on May 18, 2004, 09:57:00 AM
Post by: Pandoriaantje on May 18, 2004, 11:02:00 AM btw, my motherboard is in a XBcase, it's not in its original shielded case anymore. But what's the harm in trying... well see how it works out.
Post by: Pandoriaantje on May 19, 2004, 09:01:00 AM
Post by: spillage on May 19, 2004, 11:59:00 AM Post by: Pandoriaantje on May 20, 2004, 12:01:00 AM  so, i've loaded the TATX_Debug_Dual_VGA_LameOne_beta bios, hex edited to start evoxdash.xbe. i have installed 3 mode switches and the xbox is set to mode 2 (wich should be VGA, no?) any other things i should modify/set? i'm getting i nice clean picture but it's all green... do you have a closeup pic of the two solderpads wich are connected to the CX25871 pin 35-36? they should be located close to the upper edge of the GPU but i can't seem to find them... for now i've just soldered directly to the CX25871. *edit*: i've just put in a game and when it resetted to the dash (after eject) i started having colors.. so, now i have colors, but it's not quite right yet. the white "MS" text under the "X" logo isn't white, but yellow.
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Post by: xerxes3rd on May 25, 2004, 12:27:00 PM
Wow, I feel very honored to have been mentioned! =) Anyway, I was hoping for some more information on how to get the component video out of the VGA port. When adding the connectors onto my new case, if I decide to get an X2VGA, I'd also like to have s-video, component video, and coaxial audio as well. I was thinking about just buying an X2VGA, taking it apart, and harvesting the VGA port out of it, since it's my understanding that the X2VGA simply converts the component signal into a VGA signal. Thoughts? Post by: spillage on May 25, 2004, 01:02:00 PM
Post by: xerxes3rd on May 26, 2004, 03:16:00 AM Also, I'm guessing that using the diagram you supplied (JaredC01's diagram), in order to get optical output, one would use pin 6 (SPDIF), pin 1 (VCC), and any of the grounding pins? Post by: spillage on May 26, 2004, 04:59:00 AM Post by: xerxes3rd on May 26, 2004, 09:13:00 AM Post by: spillage on May 26, 2004, 09:36:00 AM Post by: SniperKilla on May 26, 2004, 11:36:00 AM fuck im going to buy one and post high resolution pics all over the net if i have to just to piss them off but anyway.. awesome project.. i am starting one of my own soon... not as elobrate tho.. just component and composite
Post by: spillage on May 26, 2004, 12:01:00 PM If I can help, post I will do my best. Due to cost I have abandoned the simultaneous o/p phase of my project but have still included exactly how to do it in the tut. The dual component o/p would cost about $120. (£70). Post by: spillage on June 04, 2004, 10:15:00 AM Update. What's been done so far. My new case is, for want of a better phrase, bloody ace. IMO! I don't want to blow my own trumpet but I have been working hard on it to get it just right. I would love to post some images but it's not ready for a public viewing just yet. Tut is again progressing to reflect the numerous changes that I have made to one or two areas of the project. Not sure if I have said this already, but I have abandoned the internal dual o/p mod that would allow two outputs at the same time. The reasons are two fold. One, I don't have need for it at all. Two, to do it just to show off, that I could would cost about £70 odd. Needs a custom PCB and chip from MAXIm that are not cheap. I have explained how to do it in the tut and provided the circuit diagrams in case someelse wants to make use of what is, for those who need it, a worthwhile add on. I am also working on, and really want to pull off, a powered front door that would cover the drive and the LCD panel. Operated by the quad mode jewel switch by Gompee, the door would raise and retract into the case to reveal the drive etc. It would be open/up when the box is on and shut/down when the box is off. I am completing my custom multi functional joypad. It has switches on it boot the box up to the Games HDD or the Media HDD. Learning how to use and programme a 'pic' for that phase. The cable from the pad has been changed along with the socket on the case. More soon. Thanks for staying tuned. Post by: spillage on June 11, 2004, 12:39:00 PM My case is progressing real good. I can't say anymore apart from it is taking me along time to perfect the fit and finish. I am actually making all the parts myself and have never done something as complex before. Those still tagging along will be happy in the end I think. Post by: spillage on June 11, 2004, 12:40:00 PM It will be so cool if I can do it.
Post by: Big HDD on June 25, 2004, 06:16:00 AM Post by: spillage on June 25, 2004, 08:40:00 AM
Post by: xerxes3rd on June 25, 2004, 09:00:00 AM Post by: phrozenfeonix on July 05, 2004, 01:32:00 AM (TY spillage!!! )3. + wire? on the pcb, there are 7 wires connected to the main pinout, 2 of which are video settings, the other 5 are marked G, A, V, +, and another G, i'd assume A is audio, and the wire is red, so likely the right channel, as RF is only meant for monaural, V is more than likely video  and both G wires are more than likely grounding points respectively for audio and visual conenctions, but why is the + wire in there?4. Assuming it IS only a mono signal, what if i took and merged the left and right channels? that way i wouldn't miss any extra tidbits of sound!  I'll be able to get my hands on a digital camera very soon, so i'd be more than happy to take some pictures and number out the pins so that people dont have to put up with the 'beautiful' paint drawings and whatnot else anyways, shouts to you spillage, let us know how that tut is going?
Post by: spillage on July 05, 2004, 02:04:00 AM Post by: spillage on July 05, 2004, 02:28:00 AM As I have said before, yeah it's been dead here for ages. I am working my arse off to sort my box out. Changes and Additions
Feed back would be appreciated as well as ideas for a finish. I am gunning for translucent black laquer. This image is of the case on end showing the underside. All the mounting hoiles are mobo and HDD fixings.  This image is of the front panel showing the DVD tray trim installed on the front of the DVD drive.  Oh and by the way I did make this case myself using this tool here. 
Post by: phrozenfeonix on July 06, 2004, 01:34:00 PM that's a tight case spillage, nice work!! anyways, what i came here to ask, is it possible to just use one grounding point for thevideo select pins? so then i could ground, for sake of not caring numbers atm, ground 9 and 13 to a universal grouding point, i plan on using a DIPswitch bank from an old x2.3b pro i no longer need, so i was curious if i could just send each of the 3 to their own switch, then run them all back to a single grounding point, then i'll be using the silver power switch on the switching pcb for a channel 3/4 selector everything was already conveniently assembled for me, so i decided i may even throw in a LAN light mod with the dual lead LED, so that it's green when it's connected and orange when there's activity on the lan, haha it all worked wo good with that tiny pcb, now i just need to know if the grounding will work fine!!Thanks in advance Post by: spillage on July 07, 2004, 10:54:00 AM Thanks for complement. More images of the case can be seen here. My 'X' Shaped Case on XBS/Case Modding Post by: phrozenfeonix on July 07, 2004, 10:58:00 PM mind reposting them or putting them up on a page that can host for a while? im 100% confident i'll have a whole pile of good pics up by the end of the weekend, but i need some pin numberings to work with first...or if you could, mind emailing them to me? [email protected] i wouldn't leave that up here
Post by: phrozenfeonix on July 26, 2004, 12:23:00 AM anyways, about my rf mod i wanted to attempt, i ended up going to a huge lan, and then was outta town for a week or so, and now that im back i've come to realise that this thing would be one huge pain in the ass, it appears im not getting proper output when i have the wires sodlered in, im positive the pins are all correct, and all the numbers appear to be right, but im not gettingthe proper signal to my tv, im gonna pick up a new rf adaptor and try that, hopefully that goes over better, open some light to us spillage, how is the tutorial? Post by: spillage on July 29, 2004, 12:17:00 PM Post by: speedy_g on July 30, 2004, 04:47:00 AM I seem to have problem with S-VIDEO in PAL/NTSC mode. S-VIDEO shows black/white, I have double/triple checked wires, cause I had to open the box and take out all the wires, 'cause of a ground problem that caused flickering (AVIP PIN 19). I got it fixed though... there were small traces of solder going ground =) I made my COMPOSITE/S-VIDEO/VGA/ALL AUDIO OUTPUT configuration according to JaredC01 Ultimate AV-pack. There seemed to be some confusion regarding AVIP PINS 18 & 16, but i connected them according to the diagram. Since assumed that the problem with 16/18 PINS had been fixed to the latest diagram. Anyway, aren't the AVIP PINS 19&22 signals for S-VIDEO and also VGA? I used those pins... S-VIDEO, works with Advanced scart pack, so all hope isn't lost =) I'd appriciate any help Thanks! ps. I haven't even tried VGA-output cause it shares same signals, so it won't work. Post by: spillage on July 30, 2004, 04:03:00 PM
Post by: speedy_g on July 31, 2004, 04:01:00 AM Post by: speedy_g on July 31, 2004, 04:03:00 AM just remembered what I did different, I took AVIP PIN 4 (if I remember correctly/in any case one of the ground pins) and used it as a "common" ground, since there where lot's of grounds to be used and to my knowledge using common ground from one point should work... am I right? I haven't tried to find the error yet, because of lack of time =( I'll try to get into it this tomorrow... so I'll let you know then. I'm going to my friends house-warming party today, I hope I don't have terrible hangover tomorrow =) Post by: halfie1485 on August 15, 2004, 01:43:00 AM Post by: spillage on August 15, 2004, 01:28:00 PM After trouble with my new chip installation and some minor case redesigns, progress is slow but all positive. I have a LAN party at mine at the end of September so I have promised myself that it will be finished by then, and the tut just after. I am still here - believe it.
Post by: Master-Chief on August 15, 2004, 09:09:00 PM Post by: spillage on August 17, 2004, 03:35:00 PM  This image shows my very first mod. It was my way of mounting the Xecuter - dare I say - properly. The panel is a piece of 1.2mm glass fibre. PCB material, cut and painted. Substitute the D25 etc for whatever you want. The more advanced way of doing it is too remove all the bacl panel section and replace it with a much larger piece, as shown in the image below.   To achieve the big panel, which is covered extensively in my tut (coming asap), simply cut out the entire recess in the back ABOVE the AVIP panel. Use this remaining plastic to adhere the 'extention to. Then make plastic fillers to cover the gaps in the top and the left side. I found drilling after installation easier to gauge where connectors should go. I have photos of the back inside, but these are not online. If you want them I will dig out and post. Hope this helps. All the connectors you can see here on my new case panel, with the exception of the switcher can be accomadated on my big panel mod. 
Post by: EvilWays on August 29, 2004, 02:45:00 AM  (I have 2 Associates and still can't get in ), I'm still without a working mobo to work on this project.
Post by: spillage on August 31, 2004, 08:56:00 AM Update for those still interested.
Post by: spillage on August 31, 2004, 09:00:00 AM I have just bought to dead mobos from ebay for £16 inc postage. Had them both sorted in an hour. One was used to fix a friend box and the other was stripped for parts and the RAM which is now installed in another friends box. £100 in the bank. Try ebay and buy dead. The faults are usually modders that have nmessed the D0 point.
Post by: EvilWays on September 01, 2004, 01:23:00 AM That or I just get a different credit card to sign up with (which I don't have ATM...). As far as the unemployment, just gotta wait till January to start working on my BS degree... Post by: sandman1687 on September 22, 2004, 10:10:00 PM -sandman1687 addition: if you read through the xbox-linux tutorials (http://www.xbox-linu.../Xbox_VGA_HOWTO), it says something about pulling hsync and vsync directly from pins 25 and 36 form the conexant chip. i went ahead and found the 2 points on top of the motherboard and on bottom. if these were incorporated following the instructions on xbox-linux, the need for pixel8's bios on v1.0-1.3 motherboards would be eliminated. your thoughts? Post by: EvilWays on September 23, 2004, 05:31:00 PM As I understand it, you'd still need to have a VGA BIOS because of some code it uses to "enable VGA". Post by: spillage on September 23, 2004, 05:37:00 PM Post by: spillage on September 23, 2004, 05:46:00 PM I am struggling to find a suitable location for the Power, Eject and HDD Toggle switches. I plan to use the type shown in the image. The switches are only 16mm in diameter and made of high quality stainless steel. In the image of the front of the case, ideas are sought for decent locations for the three switches. The red and yellow areas cannot accommodate switches as the DVD drive and the back of the mobo are in the way. The Sammy drive has been etch primed then finished in unlaquered Vauxhall Star Silver for anyone interested. It is a colour very close to that of silver TAG McLaren products. My TAG DVD player is silver so I am thinking of painting the box that colour too.  The case is apart again simply because I redesigned the front and needed to bond the base to the sides, prior to metal filling and etch priming. Only the top will come off when its finished. Anyone who noticed the inclusion of the DVI socket in my previous post may be interested to know that some DVD monitors support the DVI-(I) standard. DVI-I accommodates analogue VGA. Seeing as I planned this case to hopefully support the X2 / Xenon / Whatever, and the likelihood of it supporting DVI-D, aka digital DVI, I decided to install it now. The pinouts below are UNTESTED but from the ATI graphics website.  Thanks Post by: spillage on September 23, 2004, 05:48:00 PM Post by: spillage on September 24, 2004, 05:32:00 AM Thanks for comments. Ideas on switch placement anyone.???? Post by: sandman1687 on September 24, 2004, 10:34:00 PM Post by: spillage on September 25, 2004, 03:28:00 AM Maybe Headphone Stereo Amplifier Module Post by: spillage on September 28, 2004, 02:38:00 PM Post by: CreziB on September 28, 2004, 09:23:00 PM Post by: spillage on September 29, 2004, 11:36:00 AM Post by: CreziB on September 29, 2004, 06:51:00 PM Post by: poiygon on October 13, 2004, 06:02:00 PM Anyway, I stumbled upon this post searching for info on DVI-D output from the XBox. I recently purchased a Sony KD51WS510 projection TV. It has a DVI-D input, and I was hoping to make use of it. Unfortunately, the only way I've been able to think up of is using X2VGA and then a VGA to DVI-D converter. By then, I don't think I'll see much improvement over component. However, I'll keep an eye on this post to see your developements in DVI go. Keep up the good work. It's been a long project and I'd hate to see it stop. Post by: spillage on October 14, 2004, 01:01:00 PM As DLPs and LCDs alike have their panels addressed digitally it would be nice if the XBOX could be made to do so. The video encoders used, from my research, simply don't have the necassary data lines to support a true DVI-D connection. Converting analogue Component [Y/YPb/YPr] into digital Component [Y/YCb/YCr] will not yield any improvement in actual resolution, but may show a decrease in noise. Post by: spillage on October 14, 2004, 01:06:00 PM I know it's taking forever, but I am going as fast as time will allow me. Work on the 'X' Case has stopped as I am waiting a week or so for the acid etch to fully cure on the aluminium before I begin the top coats. However a quick project is now underway and I will write a very quick tut on how to create your own ServaTele. I have taken a stock 14" Sony TV and installed into the cabinet a complete XBOX along with a pair of stock 10Gb HDD. My LAN parties usually concentrate on Halo, PGR2, TOCA 2, GR1&2 and RB63 1&2 so I only need a small ammount of storage. Two HDDs are being used for one reason. I have them already, I was given a dead, now working XBOX, and the TV was free as well. The only cost to me really is time. More as it happens. Post by: sandman1687 on October 14, 2004, 01:54:00 PM Post by: spillage on October 15, 2004, 11:22:00 AM Post by: poiygon on October 15, 2004, 01:07:00 PM Post by: spillage on October 15, 2004, 01:18:00 PM Post by: spillage on February 06, 2005, 05:50:00 AM I have been spending a lot of time doing other things recently for other people. I have been working on projects for other people and not had the time to allocate to my own project. The 'X' Case is still a go and will happen. I have almost finished my latest batch of jobs and will return to it asap. I want it done because I want to use it. Sorry to those who have been kind enough to pay attention to my work. One new idea I have had for it is to install a top mount Ericsson mobile phone charger in the lid. The phone would sit as if on a desktop mounted unit. Post by: speedy_g on February 23, 2005, 05:05:00 PM 
Post by: WiFiSpy on February 26, 2005, 03:22:00 PM thx Post by: spillage on February 26, 2005, 04:36:00 PM YUV at the same time. No sorry. This is simply because the pins used to o/p YUV clash with some of the pins needed for 'S' Video. Take a look at JaredC01's diagram and you will see what I mean. Pins 17 and 19 are used for RED. I am not sure if you can have composite at the same time without checking, which sadly I can't do because my box is not in a fit state to test it. Post by: phrozenfeonix on February 26, 2005, 06:37:00 PM VDigi Electronicshappens to have a VERY nice VGA adaptor, it comes with the xbox cables, and even costs less than an x2vga. plus the x2vga doesn't let you hook up other composite devices. only downside (for some) to the vdigi is that you need a paypal account. shipping is secure, takes about 5-10 days to ship it from hong kong to canda, and after shipping, etc., it came to just over 100cdn! Post by: spillage on February 27, 2005, 02:09:00 PM Post by: phrozenfeonix on April 12, 2005, 10:43:00 PM a reason i say go the v-digi route, is that the v-digi can be used for other component devices as well. and the x-case looks stunning spillage, absolutely amazing Post by: spillage on April 13, 2005, 05:24:00 AM 
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Post by: spillage on April 23, 2005, 05:30:00 PM I've said this many times before, so it won't carry much clout anymore. I am working on this case project. But modding for others and trying to find a new job have delayed me. Am currently working on my headphone adaptor for sysytem link and live ready for LAN party this weekend. Post by: spillage on May 27, 2006, 01:49:00 PM  Anyway I was given a 3.6" and 7" TFT panel complete with electronics, both of which are widescreen. Interestingly the 3.6" panel has an RGB input that is analog.  The 7" TFT although not exactly what I wanted, does display text from XBMC legibly. This is great news as not only was it free but it means that I can now start work on the 'X' Case again. I've just ordered a WD3200JB for it and some blue EL string. I am going to finish my LANOX first though then go hell for leather on the 'X'Case. New features I am going to try to implement.
When I restart this project I will start a new WIP thread in the Case Modding Forum. Post by: xb0xh@cker on May 27, 2006, 04:04:00 PM hackingxbox.isfun.net Post by: War_Machine on May 28, 2006, 12:31:00 AM secondly...theres so much illegal shit hosted on ur site.. ur sure to get shut down, and possibly, have legal action taken against you, if the site ever takes off so, good luck with that anyhoo spillage, that shit is nuts. id love to do that to my box, but id probly never need any of it  and theres no way all that crap would fit back in, with all the other shit i crammed into it already. real professional looking though, howd you do the lettering? a label maker? it seriously looks like the back of some of the recievers ive seen at my work. very nice.having seen that immensly insane av outs you have, youd probly be the person that knows about video wiring. if u get a chance stop by my thread, im having trouble figuring out the wires for my dvd player screen. Post by: spillage on May 28, 2006, 02:48:00 AM As good as a site like yours is for "try before you buy" it is loaded with stuff that will land someone behind bars especially as it's easy to get at. Good luck with it though. War Machine see your thread. Post by: spillage on May 28, 2006, 06:21:00 AM but I have been looking into using my own buttons on the front panel of the X case and wondered if anyone else has used a standard xbox remote and connected buttons to the board. I am planning on installing a dissmantled dongle and remote into a darkened case then using my own buttons on the front panel to operate the functions. I know what to do but am asking if someone else has done this mod too.
Post by: spillage on May 28, 2006, 06:03:00 PM I particularly like the "insert coins" mod, that's the kind of attention to detail I like. Ace..........  p.s I didn't need RGBHV @15KHz, but I wanted to have the option. Post by: The Zep Man on May 28, 2006, 10:53:00 PM  Nice mod. Post by: spillage on May 29, 2006, 05:17:00 AM We've seen Game & Watch now you can have Game & Save
Post by: smoke_screen_uk on September 01, 2007, 03:03:00 AM I've just read this entire thread, all 24 pages of it! it's awesome and I'm amazed at the work you've put into you 'X' Case Spillage. I was just wondering if you ever did manage to get your case finished and if you ever finished/published your tutorial. I noticed it's been over a year since the last post in here... it just seemed to end so abruptly... I just switched back to one of my other browser tabs and noticed that very early last night I posted something about the National Semiconductor LMH1251 transcoder chip on a thread you had recently posted in.... and where I first saw your 'X' Case..... I got so engrossed in reading this thread and it took me so long (because I kept jumping off to all the links throughout it) that I forgot all about my post last night. Anyway, I feel I should BUMP this thread as it contains some great information and has had so so many hours of labor put into it over 3 years. Hat's off to you Spillage, you're the man when it comes to AV and Case mods. Hope your health is well, sorry to hear about your heart condition, best regards, Smoke Screen.
Post by: spillage on October 24, 2003, 03:01:00 PM (IMG:http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/392648/Pict0018.jpg) Post by: Devil-Man on October 24, 2003, 03:04:00 PM
Post by: FailSafe on October 24, 2003, 04:04:00 PM Post by: siccx_fox on October 24, 2003, 06:26:00 PM Post by: Zero_Cool on October 24, 2003, 09:22:00 PM Post by: lart2150 on October 24, 2003, 09:42:00 PM Post by: brahm2 on October 24, 2003, 10:45:00 PM I'm gonna move this to the new Audio/Video section.. guaranteed it will be the hottest topic for a while!!!
Post by: --MSG-- on October 25, 2003, 12:06:00 AM Post by: mathias on October 25, 2003, 03:36:00 AM Post by: Mr Ed on October 25, 2003, 08:28:00 AM Have to ask though...no DVI? Seriously tho, if those connectors all work, very good job man.
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Post by: spillage on October 28, 2003, 01:32:00 PM (IMG:http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/392648/Pict0024a.jpg)(IMG:http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/392648/Pict0009c.jpg) (IMG:http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/392648/Pict0012c.jpg)(IMG:http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/392648/Pict0024c.jpg) This post has been edited by spillage: Oct 28 2003, 09:37 PM Post by: brahm2 on October 28, 2003, 05:50:00 PM you must have the patience of... someone who is very patient!
Post by: Mr Ed on October 28, 2003, 06:12:00 PM I can't believe you could fit all that in the back panel. I thought you'd have to bring all those wires out to a break out box. Amazing! Super cool job. Damn!
Post by: sparkac on October 30, 2003, 04:40:00 PM how long did that take you, and how did you fit all of that in the case, did you get rid of the dvd drive?
Post by: spillage on October 31, 2003, 02:29:00 AM Imthedevil, Get the new pixel8 from you know where and build a sync stripper then wire it up. This project is a bitch and does as Brahm2 points out needs patients. I will right a tut if people want it. I have taken over 100 pics so far. Post by: switzch on November 01, 2003, 07:57:00 PM Post by: flownez on November 01, 2003, 11:46:00 PM
I think you will find the answer to this and many other questions is in your signature switzch... Post by: bleugh on November 01, 2003, 11:52:00 PM
blimmin yanks......... i'd bet you would do it if you could which is, incidentally why people do this stuff, because they can! I'm damned impressed with this mod, nice one! Post by: spillage on November 02, 2003, 05:46:00 AM My next mod is a 616T, anybody know where I can get one in the UK? Post by: sk8ermike6789 on November 03, 2003, 05:39:00 PM Post by: spillage on November 04, 2003, 02:50:00 AM Post by: DaShiZNiT on November 04, 2003, 06:01:00 AM
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I can think of no better reason myself. -networkBoy (Another damn Yank) BTW, You're making me regret tossing out a bunch of old letroset I had from my video days. . . -nB Post by: spillage on November 07, 2003, 04:55:00 PM 
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Post by: spillage on November 10, 2003, 01:59:00 AM 1. Composite 2. S Video 3. Optical (digital) 4. Coaxial (digital) 5. AVIP extention 6. RGB 7. RGBHV 15Khz 8. RGBHV 31Khz aka VGA is no go. Analogue audio o/p also works. I installed that for Link Parties. I can achieve a strange sized green image with some red and blue in it and its definitely at 31Khz else the monitor would work at all. I have tried 2 bios for vga so far. Pixel8 bios wont even run in my box. I am currently working on the issue, so those of you that have been kind enough to 'pm' for info please hang on a bit cause I don't want to tell how to make it if it doesn't work yet. Anyone with ideas please tell me. Post by: spillage on November 10, 2003, 11:15:00 AM Post by: spillage on November 11, 2003, 01:51:00 AM Post by: Lifter on November 11, 2003, 10:40:00 AM
Unfortunately I don't have an HD scaler (I use an HTPC for DVD movies), so that's why I'm so interested in this mod. Post by: gerzand on November 11, 2003, 06:13:00 PM also, entermymatrix03.... i can draw that up for ya. i have it working in a HD pack Post by: gerzand on November 11, 2003, 09:51:00 PM Post by: daMaster on November 12, 2003, 03:48:00 AM I'd love to have optical, coaxial, and component outputs right on the back of my XBox, but I don't have the time and no where near your skill
Post by: OEM on November 12, 2003, 10:44:00 PM 1) If the first three BNC connectors are RGB, why are they marked as component video ? 2) Are the H/V BNC connectors really necessary ? Why not just synch from composite video ? Post by: Lifter on November 13, 2003, 03:48:00 AM
The three outputs are component (YPbPr), but with a VGA bios they become RGB w/ sync on green. Most monitors do not support sync on green, so the H and V sync must be stripped and output seperately by using the LM1881N chip. Post by: spillage on November 13, 2003, 05:29:00 AM  There are 5 BNCs because they are all needed depending on what you want to achieve. RGB has to have sync, it can be on green but not from an xbox. It can be on composite, which my mod offers, or it can come from 5 wires. In the wire hook up the sync stripper is providing the H and V for projectors and plasmas that have that specific o/p. The BNCs are labelled with both RGB and Y/YPb/YPr. Of course Y/YPb/YPr does not use H and V. Gerzand, nice one mate for getting it to work. I am figuring that taking a sync feed from Green does not work so I am going to taking from composite and split that before asking you what you did, just to see if I can work it out. Yeah I did use the AVIP pin #1 to get Vcc and then a PCB ground. Am gunna check out your post too. entermymatrix03 thanks dude. Looks like a lot of people can have a go at this sort of mod with all the help coming in, which is great. Post by: spillage on November 17, 2003, 06:41:00 AM Line Doubling is an art form and very hard to do well. In my experience anything less than a grand is poor, with one exception; the iScan Pro. Post by: spillage on November 19, 2003, 08:51:00 AM CPU is @45C after 2 hours I have adjusted the fan speed in some of the bioses I use to 40% but also use Fan Speed.xas in MXM Post by: spillage on November 21, 2003, 06:29:00 AM
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Post by: ramsdb on December 06, 2003, 02:23:00 PM Please do me & everyone else a huge favor!!! Please make a tutorial so the rest of us can follow in your rather large footsteps... this is exactly what I have been looking for! Thanks, RAMZY. Post by: TB_88 on December 07, 2003, 02:42:00 AM Plz a good turorial would be so COOL! And I'm always so confused because all other vga cable tutorials u don't know wich pin is 1 or 15 and so on. It would be good to have pictures on the real thing so u are 100% sure it's the right pin... I made a vga cable without sync splitter and on 1 of my 4 monitors I get flicker does that mean that is got sync on green? I will order a sync seperator and try that to. But I'm not sure hwo to wire it... Post by: TB_88 on December 07, 2003, 03:59:00 AM I can buy one Sync splitter here in sweden no need for that. Thnx and mega thanx if u are able to help me with those other parts. Post by: gerzand on December 08, 2003, 11:44:00 AM Post by: spillage on December 08, 2003, 11:53:00 AM
Post by: spillage on December 08, 2003, 12:03:00 PM I am currently consideringal converting my box to be a top loader. It's a long story, but the short of it is this. I tried to be the worlds first box owner with a slot drive that played originals. Not saying how yet cause I may be buying a couple of slots this coming weekend to try again. If I go for the top loader it would be a lot like a NAIM CDS cd player, in that is has a door that you lift up and place the disc on the transport, then put a puck on top, then shut the door. Disc spins and plays. I think a slot loader would be cool but the top loader is growing onme. Anybody else tried this? No mention when I searched. Post by: gerzand on December 08, 2003, 02:06:00 PM
Post by: spillage on December 08, 2003, 03:25:00 PM Cheers Post by: loki on December 09, 2003, 08:52:00 PM
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Post by: TB_88 on December 10, 2003, 07:28:00 AM !Great work btw spillage and by helping me with the parts. Post by: spillage on December 10, 2003, 12:51:00 PM Does anyone know what enabling HD in the M$ dash actually does? Post by: spillage on December 10, 2003, 02:09:00 PM The Eizo monitor produced brilliant brightness and colours but the geometry was poor on the edges. The Philips monitor produced a mostly green image but the geometry is perfect. Anyone with monitor experience got any ideas as to why the colours are crap on the Philips but good on the Eizo, assuming the Philips is not faulty? I know for a fact that my dips are wired right and that I definitely select 9 to gnd and 13 to gnd to get VGA support. As I said above I also get the VDU powering up with 11 to gnd and 13 to gnd. I have third 1024x768 monitor to try tomorrow. Post by: TB_88 on December 11, 2003, 04:46:00 AM Post by: spillage on December 12, 2003, 03:47:00 AM Does anyone know if all games that do NOT support HD are in 480 or 576i? If they are then I am better off breaking down an X2VGA and putting inside my box, that way EVERYTHING comes out 480p --> Post by: spillage on December 14, 2003, 04:15:00 PM Post by: loki on December 18, 2003, 08:41:00 PM
Post by: twistedsymphony on December 18, 2003, 09:59:00 PM though some games dont support HD so those that dont come out in 480i (I think ) and arn't the greatest...but over all it is the best VGA solution for the Xbox. I can't wait to see your tutorial, I've been considering adding locking terminals for RGB myself (w00t BARCO CRT represent ).also there is a thread currently going on in the hardware modding forum about a lid load DVD drive for some guy who messed something up so it wont eject. however I think a slot loader that plays originals would be very nice... very slick and I would definltly perform that mod if a tutorial were available... if you need help with the slot loading thing I suggest starting a thread in the hardware modding forum there are a few of us there who are extremely proficient electricly and mechanically and could probably help you out if you need it again good work, looking forward to seeing more Post by: spillage on December 19, 2003, 02:53:00 PM All those who have kindly asked me for help, let me asure you I am working as fast as I can to get the tuts written. Post by: TB_88 on December 21, 2003, 08:46:00 AM
Post by: spillage on December 26, 2003, 06:36:00 AM VGA Analogue Audio Both Optical and Coaxial SPDIF o/ps Moving the AVIP 5 wire RGB The sync stripper. Post by: esgr_pt on December 29, 2003, 04:02:00 AM I tried to had a coaxial digital out to my xbox and did it like the tutorial on xbox-scene. 18 pin to ground, 3pin to rca center and 5pin to rca outside. The problem is that MS dashboard doesn't work correctly anymore with lot of delays in animations and changing menus, but the option to dolby digital is enable. Do you know what the problem is? Post by: spillage on December 29, 2003, 01:23:00 PM |