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Title: Which Router?
Post by: DiNapXbox on February 10, 2003, 06:46:00 PM
I'm sure Xbox Live! will work fine on any router.  For any other purpose you don't need a router, a hub/switch/crossover cable works fine.

For routers, I recommend any LinkSys product.  Easy to setup and reliable.
Title: Which Router?
Post by: SumDumGuy on February 10, 2003, 06:50:00 PM
I can't say that it is the best one... or why... but I can say that I have a Linksys BEFSR41. It's a 4 port and I have a 4 port switch hooked up... If only it had been a 5 port router biggrin.gif I am extremely happy with it... Never had any problems with it... Some of the guys I work with have NetGear routers that they think are the best but they have had a few problems... I don't know if it was the routers or the users  blink.gif haha, but anyway, personally, I would stick with a brand name. You wont save but $10 to buy a no name and you may or may not pay that $10 in grief with a no name... Just my $.02

One thing is for sure... buying a router is a much better way to go then buying a 2nd nic and trying to get that to work...  wink.gif
Title: Which Router?
Post by: SumDumGuy on February 10, 2003, 06:53:00 PM
QUOTE (DiNapXbox @ Feb 11 2003, 03:46 AM)
I'm sure Xbox Live! will work fine on any router.  For any other purpose you don't need a router, a hub/switch/crossover cable works fine.

For routers, I recommend any LinkSys product.  Easy to setup and reliable.

True a switch will work just as well, but then you have to deal with the external network vs the internal network (cable/dsl modem) dhcp and the xbox static ip... I think it is easier for most users just to get a router and set everything for dhcp? But it all depends...

And again... Even a switch or Hub is better than getting a 2nd nic for your pc biggrin.gif

just my opinion
Title: Which Router?
Post by: SS113 on February 10, 2003, 07:06:00 PM
QUOTE (masmack @ Feb 11 2003, 03:42 AM)
pop.gif Which router is the best one for the XBOX and why?

Buy the linksys you wont be sorry

SS113
Title: Which Router?
Post by: archon76 on February 10, 2003, 07:23:00 PM
QUOTE (masmack @ Feb 11 2003, 02:42 AM)
pop.gif Which router is the best one for the XBOX and why?

Most of the cusumer/small bussiness entry level router will work fine.  Most feature that the high end router have most home users will never need or for that matter even know what they are for.

The main question I have for you is what type of line (internet) are you using.  If you have cable or DSL most of the standard routers on the market will do fine.  As long as the ISP supplies the modem.  These models are Ethernet to Ethernet routers.  

Some models (more expensive) include the DSL modem built in.  The netopia and Speedstream make models that (I am not fond of the speedstreams) are examples of these.

Cisco makes a Cable modem router 900u series.  Road Runner uses these for there business class connection.  

It really depends on your situation which router is right.  Are you looking for a DSL/CABLE router without the modem? Do you want wireless support?  I have set up many Linksys and Dlink model so I can say they will be fine.  

If you let me know what your goals are I can recommend a model.
Title: Which Router?
Post by: sith on February 10, 2003, 07:45:00 PM
Actually linksys does have nice equipment but for routers i'm an smc fan... much cheaper and smaller.... plus great web interface setup...
either smc or linksys would be just fine...
.sith.
Title: Which Router?
Post by: gainpresence on February 10, 2003, 08:50:00 PM
Linksys royally screwed me on a router that I bought from them (it died after 2 months and they refused to do anything about it).

I recommend Netgear or Dlink, 2 GREAT companies that you can't go wrong with.

I use the Netgear RP614 router, it works 100% with LIVE, and no configuration on my part.
Title: Which Router?
Post by: archon76 on February 10, 2003, 09:10:00 PM
QUOTE (gainpresence @ Feb 11 2003, 04:50 AM)
Linksys royally screwed me on a router that I bought from them (it died after 2 months and they refused to do anything about it).

I recommend Netgear or Dlink, 2 GREAT companies that you can't go wrong with.

I use the Netgear RP614 router, it works 100% with LIVE, and no configuration on my part.

Ouch!

What model of router was it.  Just curious but is the unit still under their warrenty?

If it is still under warrenty I may be able to help get a RMA for the unit.  What went wrong with it?
Title: Which Router?
Post by: SumDumGuy on February 10, 2003, 09:27:00 PM
Personally, I would have just taken it to back to where I bought it and got a replacement from them... I have found that if you push them most retailers will do it no matter what the deal is.

As far as Linksys service. Not sure why you had such a problem but I tell you what they did for me... Friend of mine bought a linksys router... he didnt have it on a surge protector and his house got hit by a whopper of a surge... The loss of the router was the least of his worries. Either way it took out the router in syle. Melted the wires from the brick upto the router. He went and bought another brand new router, and this one had only been like a few weeks old.

I felt bad for the guy so, I took the router and got it swapped at a local retailer. They don't know what they are doing... They just ship it back to linksys... eitherway, I got a new router. But that was just the router, I had no idea what to do about the power cord??? I mean it was melted beyond recognition? I called up linksys to ask if I could BUY a replacement power supply. The guy asked why I wanted to? I made up some cockamamie storie about a friend borrowing it and plugging the cord into the wrong device and blowing it up. Told him the router was fine, just needed a new PS. I said, I know it's my fault so I will BUY it!!! He said, don't worry about it and shipped me a replacement for free... biggrin.gif Then he had a Free replacement router!
Title: Which Router?
Post by: gainpresence on February 10, 2003, 09:57:00 PM
QUOTE (archon76 @ Feb 10 2003, 11:10 PM)
Ouch!

What model of router was it.  Just curious but is the unit still under their warrenty?

If it is still under warrenty I may be able to help get a RMA for the unit.  What went wrong with it?

This was an old 56k router from '96 or so.

They may have changed their service since then, but I am one to hold a grudge.

I am perfectly happy with Netgear at the moment (if it ever dies, then I may not be, but I assume they'll do good).

"What went wrong with it?"

It just died, suddenly and for no reason.

I actually liked that router (held four modems for a total of 224 theoretical kbps).
Title: Which Router?
Post by: supasta on February 10, 2003, 10:16:00 PM
Two words:

Linksys

Wireless

Can't go wrong with that.
Title: Which Router?
Post by: Tripamang on February 10, 2003, 10:31:00 PM
Personally I would stay away from the wireless =p

How is he going to hook up his xbox to a wireless hub btw? =p
Title: Which Router?
Post by: archon76 on February 11, 2003, 04:17:00 AM
QUOTE (i-ball @ Feb 11 2003, 11:50 AM)
Draytek Vigor 2600

I have never heard of that model before.  So I looked it up.  Seems to be a nice unit.  Supports all the major feature.  The logged mode I found interesting.  I could not find a lot of data on the unit.  I could not even locate a vendor in the states that retailed the product.  Where is the product normally sold?
Title: Which Router?
Post by: sith on February 11, 2003, 01:21:00 PM
QUOTE (ybu @ Feb 11 2003, 01:26 PM)
I have two and both are ok:

Linksys BEFSR41
and
SMC7004VBR

Weird.. those are the same 2 i got...heh

.sith.
Title: Which Router?
Post by: gainpresence on February 11, 2003, 02:09:00 PM
This looks to be the best wireless router I've seen.

http://www.netgear.c...rodID=163&view=
Title: Which Router?
Post by: i-ball on February 11, 2003, 02:18:00 PM
DRAYTEK Vigor 2600
Title: Which Router?
Post by: ExOrCizT on February 11, 2003, 03:13:00 PM
heh i got the linksys BEFSR41 4 port router, no problems wit it, fast too!
Title: Which Router?
Post by: SS113 on February 11, 2003, 03:16:00 PM
Setting up an Xbox™ and a Linksys Router  

Article ID:   KB10934384  

Product Class:   Routers  
 
Operating System:   N/A  

Last Modified Date:   12/04/2002 15:52:01  

 Q U E S T I O N  
 How do I setup my Xbox and Linksys Router to communicate to each other?  
 
A N S W E R  
Before following these instructions, please be sure to have the latest firmware from our website, http://www.linksys.com/download  

Please follow the steps below to setup your Xbox with your Linksys Router:  
 
1. With your Xbox powered down, take an Ethernet cable and plug it into a numbered port on the router, and plug the other end into the Xbox.  

2. After you have your Xbox connected to the router, start up the Xbox without a CD in the tray.  

3. After you start the unit, you should arrive at the "Xbox Dashboard".  Select the Xbox Live option and press the "a" button on the controller.  

4. After "Xbox Live" loads select the Network Setup and press the "a" button your controller.  

5. On the "IP Address" settings, you can choose "Automatic" or "Manual", make sure it's Automatic.  

6. Select the Connect option and press the "a" button on the controller.  

After you use the "Connect" option, the Xbox will detect the network cable, and will ask you if you want to connect to Xbox Live.  

Author: KBJLH  
Copyright © 2002 The Linksys Group, Inc.

you can do this from the orignial dash/ if the orignial dash does not have live installed load a game that does and select from in the game go live it will install live to the xbox.
Now to do this you do not need a live accout as when it connects to the server it will ask for your account info if there is none. either way you have a connection through the router to the internet and you know that works then set the PC to DCHP or Auto obtail and IP address and the router will assign it as well as the xbox, boot xbox to evox.ini, using the drfault settings in the slayers disk that it came with.
your orignial post:    http://forums.xbox-s...16&t=30069&st=0
the defaults in slayers were
192.168.1.200
255.255.255.0
192.168.1.1




SS113
Title: Which Router?
Post by: archon76 on February 11, 2003, 07:48:00 PM
QUOTE (hiredmuscle @ Feb 12 2003, 03:30 AM)
the netgear rt314 or rt311 is faster than the linksys

In what respect?  Are we talking processing power.  NAT clients translated? Through-put or what.  I am just curious I love network hardware related benchmark and specs.  

What tests did you use to compare these?
Title: Which Router?
Post by: karia on February 11, 2003, 08:20:00 PM
beerchug.gif  beerchug.gif
Title: Which Router?
Post by: Colonel32 on February 11, 2003, 08:30:00 PM
QUOTE
How is he going to hook up his xbox to a wireless hub btw? =p


Linksys makes an adapter that it looks like it plugs into the ethernet port and makes it wireless. At the linksys site it says that it is Xbox compatible..

But, i ran wireless from my laptop 80211.b  to ftp and i got around 400 kbps, whereas when i run an ethernet cable from my laptop i get about 4 000, so i think it wouldn't be too sweet....

Anyone used this product?
Title: Which Router?
Post by: archon76 on February 11, 2003, 08:40:00 PM
QUOTE (karia @ Feb 12 2003, 04:20 AM)
Linksys BEFSR41 v2 is the BEST router EVER! i have absolutely no problems with anything, where i had problems with my netgear rt314. get this router, it is the BEST! beerchug.gif  beerchug.gif

One of my favorite routers is a Cisco 2651.  What you can do with these units is amazing and the price is OK.  Best buy for performance is there 1700 series.

After you know Cisco products and have set up 1000's the rest of the products out there just do not seem to have the same appeal.  Unless I am buying, then the other models (Linksys, Dlink, Netgear) look great biggrin.gif  

Title: Which Router?
Post by: switzch on February 12, 2003, 11:38:00 AM
the best router is the cheapest.. netgear, linksys, smc.. if your running a basic home network with cable or dsl, all these routers will do the same thing.