Post by: kingal89 on October 03, 2004, 02:39:00 PM
Post by: chasealicious11 on October 03, 2004, 03:19:00 PM
Post by: bigted41 on October 03, 2004, 06:36:00 PM
just gotta wait tho
Post by: crazy8 on October 03, 2004, 08:57:00 PM
Post by: t_skraggs on October 03, 2004, 09:29:00 PM
Post by: crazy8 on October 03, 2004, 08:38:00 PM
Post by: psyberxian on October 04, 2004, 10:55:00 AM
I bet if you ran a survey... the XBOX didn't really start selling like hotcakes until modchips started coming out for it...
if MS doesn't want the XBOX 2 to be hacked, they would incase the motherboard in a epoxy resin to prevent access to solder points...
-Psyber
Post by: NeuroChemist on October 04, 2004, 12:58:00 PM
Post by: Myxi2001 on October 06, 2004, 07:32:00 AM
Post by: Scan-C on October 06, 2004, 07:21:00 AM
| QUOTE (psyberxian @ Oct 4 2004, 05:55 PM) |
| if the XBOX 2 has a LPC on the motherboard, it will only be a matter of time before a modchip comes out for it.... I bet if you ran a survey... the XBOX didn't really start selling like hotcakes until modchips started coming out for it... if MS doesn't want the XBOX 2 to be hacked, they would incase the motherboard in a epoxy resin to prevent access to solder points... -Psyber |
the lpc wasn't even needed to mod the xbox. remember 29 wire mods? and even if there is an lpc port ms can easily prevent the xbox 2 from loading the bios from there.
they can't secure the whole board with epoxy resin too. someone would be crazy enough to sand it away
other than that ms needs testpoints for repair of damaged consoles.i'm sure it will be hacked. it's just a matter of time.
Post by: EvilNight on October 06, 2004, 08:39:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| The Xenon console is designed around a larger world view of storage than Xbox was. Games will have access to a variety of storage devices, including connected devices (memory units, USB storage) and remote devices (networked PCs, Xbox LiveĀ). At the time of this writing, the decision to include a built-in hard disk in every Xenon console has not been made. If a hard disk is not included in every console, it will certainly be available as an integrated add-on component. |
If that's the hardware, we can make some safe assumptions...
1) If there's a HDD inside, no problem.
2) If not, it should be simple to add an external, USB hard drive.
3) It should also be simple to support booting from USB disks in the BIOS of whatever mod chips are designed.
The Xbox2 is less of a PC than the original, but really only becase of its CPU (based on PowerPC rather than x86). However, as long as people have screwdrivers and it remains based, however loosely, on standard PC technology (like USB), it'll remain quite hackable. I'd kinda prefer having the hard drive as an external unit. It makes it damn easy to tweak the data by hooking it to a computer, and it's also easy to take it to a friend's house. You also won't void your warranty, or have to put up with various annoying forms of encryption and other inept hackproofing.
It would be nice to find a way to bootstrap the sucker from a USB Hard Disk without actually using a mod chip. All it takes is a good, solid bug in the default code somewhere (and hey, it's MS, so you know there will be plenty), and one could create a CD-ROM that exploits it and simply transfers control out to the hard disk. No more voiding warranties or dealing with "illegal" hardware hacks and other such crap. If you want to play the hacked one, you hook up a hard disk, pop in the hack boot cd, and you're off.
Time will tell.
Post by: JesseWHHS on October 08, 2004, 01:40:00 PM
anyway i was reading this crap and thought about ahow u cant realy read the xbox HDD on a PC, atleast i never got it to work............ lol
could they possibly make a new file system? like how we have FAT and NFTS? like i know a 95 machine cannot read a NFTS partition. so i think if they do realese ANY kind of HDD internal or external there is gonna be a giant kicker. like they will have it rock solid so we'll all be screwed. wel not really cause M$ is really dumb but i just wanted to see wut u guys thought abotu that. who knows, u guys mite think that this makes sense! lol.
Post by: Shadowblade on October 10, 2004, 07:04:00 PM
Post by: pingrr on October 10, 2004, 06:13:00 PM
| QUOTE (Myxi2001 @ Oct 6 2004, 08:32 AM) |
When is the Xbox 2 out?  |
Next Thursday.
I think that the xbox2 will not come with a hard drive but it will be an exrta feature that can be added on.
Post by: Juancster on October 11, 2004, 03:39:00 PM
Post by: thewickedjester on October 12, 2004, 11:17:00 AM
| QUOTE (Shadowblade @ Oct 10 2004, 09:04 PM) |
| If MS was smart, they'd make it easily hacked. Just look at how many people are online in this message board every minute. Thats millions of people who most likely just bought their xbox to mod it. If most of you guys are like me, I bought a couple of games to go along with the xbox too, while I was doing research on modchips. I would have never bought an xbox if you couldn't have modded it. |
i agree entirely, i would never have bought an xbox (much less 3 of them) if it wasnt for modchips (and this site). you wonder why MS put a area where the bios passes throught the mother board unencoded? cause they just dont care if we mod them
their biggest problem everyone thinks, and they claim, is that there are certain people who pirate the games, go to blockbuster or hollywood video, rent the game, save it to their hdd, ect ect. the truth is, MS doesnt loose that much money on that because their main source of income on the xbox is two things, the console, and the liscensing to independant corperations that make the games. MS claims to loose money to piracy and the such, but it doenst affect them that badly, just the video game programmers.
Post by: DrowMaster on October 16, 2004, 10:13:00 PM
Post by: Trisman on October 16, 2004, 10:57:00 PM
| QUOTE (thewickedjester @ Oct 12 2004, 07:20 PM) |
| ...MS doesnt loose that much money on that because their main source of income on the xbox is two things, the console, and the liscensing to independant corperations that make the games. MS claims to loose money to piracy and the such, but it doenst affect them that badly, just the video game programmers. |
No it's not, they lose money on every console and only gross about $10k for signing a developer. Their main (almost only) source of income is the selling of games. They get paid by getting a (extremly large) cut of the net profit of games sold. Every game that is not sold is money lost for M$.
Post by: enderandrew on October 27, 2004, 02:03:00 AM
With said storage options, hackers will take advantage.
Post by: hard candy on October 27, 2004, 07:57:00 AM
The engineers will not be able to make an completely unhackable xbox and maintain a certain price range, but if they can drive down the percentage of people using modded xboxes to a point where they get maximum return for ther investment, then they will be happy.
Post by: DruPalmer on October 27, 2004, 08:59:00 PM
! As for the Cd drive, I personally think that MS can figure out a way to not run it off of IDE. Therefore, NO IDE = NO adding a HDD! I know this is SAD...but I think this is what is going to be inside the new xbox 2....BUT HEY, it'll look cooler, right?
Post by: makaveli91 on October 28, 2004, 02:14:00 AM
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Post by: mike96sc2 on October 30, 2004, 01:16:00 PM
Post by: JLR on October 31, 2004, 03:36:00 PM
| QUOTE (Shadowblade @ Oct 11 2004, 01:04 AM) |
| If MS was smart, they'd make it easily hacked. Just look at how many people are online in this message board every minute. Thats millions of people who most likely just bought their xbox to mod it. If most of you guys are like me, I bought a couple of games to go along with the xbox too, while I was doing research on modchips. I would have never bought an xbox if you couldn't have modded it. |
If M$ was smart they would take a left out of Nintendo since I don't think that anyone has hacked the Gamecube, well the last time I heard they hadn't but there is a way around it. Since there is only 1 way that I know of then Nintendo are the clever ones at the moment.
Post by: Barnolde on November 01, 2004, 09:22:00 AM
| QUOTE (Shadowblade @ Oct 11 2004, 02:04 AM) |
| If MS was smart, they'd make it easily hacked. Just look at how many people are online in this message board every minute. Thats millions of people who most likely just bought their xbox to mod it. If most of you guys are like me, I bought a couple of games to go along with the xbox too, while I was doing research on modchips. I would have never bought an xbox if you couldn't have modded it. |
You DO know that you make money off software, NOT hardware, right? Why would MS allow people to steal software so they can sell hardware? It'd be financial suicide, and not to mention, pretty damn stupid.
Post by: deacon187 on November 01, 2004, 11:48:00 PM
shit in one hand and wish in the other
Post by: newguy001 on November 02, 2004, 12:06:00 AM