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Title: 200gigs
Post by: styles24 on January 22, 2004, 11:20:00 AM
just to let you guys know, i put a 160gb wd hdd in my buddys xbox yesterday and it works fine. Xbox recognizes it no problem. So if you want to know the answer to hdds larger than 137, its YES. c: reads something like 200 or 300 meg, e: reads around 4.5 gigs, the f: reads around 150 gig, and the other ones are around 700 meg a piece. All i know is that i saw 150 gig under f:, and after about 6 games installed, the space changed accordingly on the desktop skin that i have. Never say never.
Title: 200gigs
Post by: styles24 on January 22, 2004, 11:22:00 AM
just to let you guys know, i put a 160gb wd hdd in my buddys xbox yesterday and it works fine. Xbox recognizes it no problem. So if you want to know the answer to hdds larger than 137, its YES. c: reads something like 200 or 300 meg, e: reads around 4.5 gigs, the f: reads around 150 gig, and the other ones are around 700 meg a piece. All i know is that i saw 150 gig under f:, and after about 6 games installed, the space changed accordingly on the desktop skin that i have. Never say never.
Title: 200gigs
Post by: styles24 on January 22, 2004, 11:25:00 AM
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Title: 200gigs
Post by: photoposite on January 22, 2004, 12:20:00 PM
i agree with styles.  I got a 160 gig in my xbox.  It recognizes the hd and all the space with no problem.  In fact I need to upgrade to a new hd.  I got tons of movies, backuped games, pictures and all sort of stuff on the hd.  I got like 2 gigs left.  I want to put in atleast a 250 gig hd.  So as Stlyes said, you can break the 137 gig threshold.  I am running the latest x2 bios and am using atleast 156 gigs of the space.  I say 156 because you still have x y and z drives to factor in as the take 786 megs each and like 2.2 gigs total.  So in short, yes do the hd upgrade.
Title: 200gigs
Post by: Jagosix on January 22, 2004, 12:25:00 PM
smile.gif, I've installed & setup several 250 - 300 Gig drives with no problems. I used the 4979/4980 bios with the drive g partition & have had no problems running the games from either partitions (F & G). So sure u can use a larger drive.





U can learn something from everybody smile.gif.
Title: 200gigs
Post by: Strud1512 on January 22, 2004, 12:43:00 PM
Uhh - guys, this thread started in September - before the LBA48 large drive patch was released.
I think it is quite well known now that the most recent bios' can make use of much larger drive space.
Title: 200gigs
Post by: styles24 on January 22, 2004, 08:17:00 PM
well as long as the thread is still here, someone might run across it and make use of the info, so yes i know the thread is old, but hey, why not help out where ya can ya know.
Title: 200gigs
Post by: slayahata on January 23, 2004, 03:43:00 AM
Do you have to install a fan with a 250gb drive?
Title: 200gigs
Post by: styles24 on January 23, 2004, 09:29:00 AM
I think the fan that is already in there is sufficient enough for any hard drive, but if you want to upgrade, go ahead, just know what size fan to replace the other with.
Title: 200gigs
Post by: Scimmia on September 23, 2002, 07:06:00 PM
The xbox can recognize up to 137 GB. Anything above that would be wasted.
Title: 200gigs
Post by: plehem12 on September 23, 2002, 07:38:00 PM
do you really need more than 137 gigs anyway?
Title: 200gigs
Post by: dkoikadabra on September 23, 2002, 07:51:00 PM
Well, they have about 175 XBox games released. So, let's assume you like all of 'em, and they all take up an average of 5 Gigs. That would equal a whopping 875 Gigabytes worth of HDD space you need. This doesn't include, of course, the full, emulated sets for the various emulators, which would take up, say, 15 Gigabytes, give or take a Gig. Lets tack on another 10 Gigabytes, because if you fill a HDD up to the brim, the games suffer for it. This leaves a grand total of 900GB. 137GB seems real small compared to that, eh?
Of course, this is a pretty innacurate estimate, as most people wont want every single XBox game, and some people may not care enough to get the full sets for the emulated systems (heathens =-). But, hey, just wanted to put my two cents in. Not trying to be a prick or anything, but I'm an obsessive-compulsive collecter: I can't just get some of 'em, I need to get _all_ of 'em.
Toodaloo.
Title: 200gigs
Post by: dkoikadabra on September 23, 2002, 08:49:00 PM
Oops, forgot DivX movies and MP3s. Yeah, bump that total up to about 1200 Gigabytes.... that is, ripping about 200 movies to high-quality AVIs, and anothe 100 Gigabytes for even the biggest mp3 collection. Rackmount, anyone? =-)
Title: 200gigs
Post by: BzD on September 23, 2002, 10:43:00 PM
5 gigs average game!?! DVD's only hold 4.7 gig!  rolleyes.gif

Most games, even full DVD versions seem to be around 1 gig or less....
Title: 200gigs
Post by: dkoikadabra on September 24, 2002, 01:07:00 AM
BzD: I'm rounding up. I never said my estimate was accurate, and it's always better to overshoot anyhow, especially considering backups load for sh*t if you fill a HDD to the brim (or anywhere near that nebulous mark).
Title: 200gigs
Post by: BzD on September 24, 2002, 03:47:00 AM
QUOTE (xboxshonk @ Sep 24 2002, 07:44 PM)
I've extracted iso's onto my pc drive and sometimes it adds 300 meg more. I think it was that dodge wam release of rallisport that I can't get to work, so that doesn't count. But maybe when you extract a normal dvd it might be larger that the dvd capacity. Maybe the new evox bios might be able to use larger drives

                                    Nope, 136 gigs (or thereabouts) is the max. the Xbox can recognise and ever will be able to recognise.

I forget why but its true  :  smile.gif
Title: 200gigs
Post by: Hammy on September 24, 2002, 03:59:00 AM
It is the same reason as most older pc's it is a bios limit so really with all this bios hacking about i hope someone like EvoX will be able to fix the hard drive limit.

I use an 80gig hd and what i will do is to just setup another 80gig hd if my drive is full and just swap hard drives biggrin.gif
Title: 200gigs
Post by: akarnid on September 24, 2002, 04:33:00 AM
QUOTE (xboxshonk @ Sep 24 2002, 07:44 AM)
I've extracted iso's onto my pc drive and sometimes it adds 300 meg more. I think it was that dodge wam release of rallisport that I can't get to work, so that doesn't count. But maybe when you extract a normal dvd it might be larger that the dvd capacity. Maybe the new evox bios might be able to use larger drives

                                    Heyy, at least I aint the only one who can't get that Rallisport to work smile.gif
Title: 200gigs
Post by: BzD on September 24, 2002, 04:36:00 AM
dupe post sorry - internet is screwy here tonight... plz delete
Title: 200gigs
Post by: BzD on September 24, 2002, 04:37:00 AM
Dupe post sorry - internet screwy here tonight - plz delete
Title: 200gigs
Post by: BzD on September 24, 2002, 04:37:00 AM
QUOTE (^^^Maximus^^^ @ Sep 24 2002, 10:22 PM)
Many games are burned on dual-layered DVD's so they can fit more than 4.7Gb.  Same as most movie DVDs.

K, I thought it would be like PS2 where the max is 4.7 gig...

So there are some XBox games that are impossible to copy then? Seeing as max DVD-R capacity is 4.7 gig.
Title: 200gigs
Post by: Ichijouji on September 24, 2002, 03:47:00 PM
QUOTE (BzD @ Sep 24 2002, 05:37 AM)
QUOTE (^^^Maximus^^^ @ Sep 24 2002, 10:22 PM)
Many games are burned on dual-layered DVD's so they can fit more than 4.7Gb.  Same as most movie DVDs.

K, I thought it would be like PS2 where the max is 4.7 gig...

So there are some XBox games that are impossible to copy then? Seeing as max DVD-R capacity is 4.7 gig.

                                    PS2 can read dual-layered games as well (read: Xenosaga).  Yes, there are some games that you can't make direct copies of, but there have been very few and they just had content downsampled a bit.
Title: 200gigs
Post by: erexx on September 24, 2002, 03:51:00 PM
The xbox itself will never support anything higher than 137 gigs.
Thats a hardware related issue.
Nothing to do with the bios.

But if you want to go beyond 137 gigs there is a way.

The answers to all your questions are here:
http://www.xboxhacke...=ST;f=10;t=6162

For a detailed walkthrough with pictures, go to...

http://208.34.209.68/411gb/

backup sites...

http://411gb.50megs.com
http://www24.brinkster.com/411gb

Thanks to Ferrel for all the hard work...

I have never come across a dual layed xbox dvd game and the only game that I have ever seen come close to the 4.7 gig max is Genman Onimusha.