Post by: bourke on March 03, 2004, 04:22:00 AM
Instead I am faced with an 'XLB' logo that has me in tears...
How long do you think it will be before the Evolution-X crew release the 'M8' bios?
This post has been edited by bourke on Mar 3 2004, 12:22 PM
Post by: blueinfinity on March 03, 2004, 04:22:00 AM
could be that the limited jsut uses this. may be a 1.5 i havnt heard ne thing bout the 1.6
Post by: A.Z.BEST on March 03, 2004, 06:39:00 AM
And for the 1.6 Mobo - just wait a while ;). So do I have to wait for the new bios... cause I am willing to buy that Crystal Beauty :D.
This post has been edited by A.Z.BEST® on Mar 3 2004, 02:40 PM
Post by: Exobex on March 03, 2004, 10:02:00 AM
| QUOTE (bourke @ Mar 3 2004, 11:22 AM) |
| I have just opened my spanking new green Crystal Limited Edition Xbox to discover neither a Connexant nor a Focus video chip :-( Instead I am faced with an 'XLB' logo that has me in tears... How long do you think it will be before the Evolution-X crew release the 'M8' bios? |
Why not do your bit for the scene?
1) Copy the 007 raincoat 0.7 save to your Xbox.
2) Boot the hack using 007:Agent Under Fire
3) Use the raincoat -r command to dump a copy of the BIOS to BIOS.BIN
4) Reboot with nothing in the drive
5) Copy the save back to your memory card
6) Drop the memory card into a hacked Xbox
7) FTP into the Xbox
8) Grab the BIOS
9) E-mail it to Team EvoX
You never know, maybe you'll see your name in the "Thanx" bit of the EvoX M8 readme file!
Post by: heinrich on March 03, 2004, 10:09:00 AM
| QUOTE (bourke @ Mar 3 2004, 07:22 AM) |
| I have just opened my spanking new green Crystal Limited Edition Xbox to discover neither a Connexant nor a Focus video chip :-( Instead I am faced with an 'XLB' logo that has me in tears... How long do you think it will be before the Evolution-X crew release the 'M8' bios? |
if you cant do as Exobex said, can you at least give the kernel version # ?
Thanks.
Post by: lordvader129 on March 03, 2004, 12:04:00 PM
| QUOTE (Exobex @ Mar 3 2004, 12:02 PM) | ||
Why not do your bit for the scene? 1) Copy the 007 raincoat 0.7 save to your Xbox. 2) Boot the hack using 007:Agent Under Fire 3) Use the raincoat -r command to dump a copy of the BIOS to BIOS.BIN 4) Reboot with nothing in the drive 5) Copy the save back to your memory card 6) Drop the memory card into a hacked Xbox 7) FTP into the Xbox 8) Grab the BIOS 9) E-mail it to Team EvoX You never know, maybe you'll see your name in the "Thanx" bit of the EvoX M8 readme file! |
and while your at it, see if you can use PBL to load an M7 or 4981 (but use PBL, dont flash) just to see how it works out
Post by: shtewps on March 04, 2004, 03:31:00 AM
:P
Post by: lookformeb on March 04, 2004, 04:45:00 AM
| QUOTE (shtewps @ Mar 4 2004, 05:31 AM) |
| yeah and do my laundry while your at that too :P |
wtf... :blink:
bourke, can you take some pics of the mobo?
Post by: -FourDoor- on March 04, 2004, 08:49:00 AM
Post by: billenglish on March 04, 2004, 03:38:00 PM
Post by: A.Z.BEST on March 05, 2004, 04:10:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| spanking new green Crystal Limited Edition Xbox |
?
Heh, green crystal :). I hope bourke can answer before 12 march :).
Post by: heinrich on March 05, 2004, 04:33:00 AM
| QUOTE (-FourDoor- @ Mar 4 2004, 12:38 PM) |
| Looks like the balls in your court bourke... You got a lot of anxious people on this side of the fence waiting for your answers if you can provide them. |
not really, it uses the same 5530 kernel that has been shipped on xbox for several months now. The various groups are working on it.
I'll throw the bios up on xbins today if anyone wants to mess around with it.
Post by: blackbishop on March 05, 2004, 04:34:00 AM
| QUOTE (billenglish @ Mar 4 2004, 03:27 PM) |
| the new Xbox SDK does have something about the new videochip |
You are correct in your assumsion,
The sdk does say something about it. And you would be correct to say that it is a 1.6 board.
Only time will tell which team implaments the new patches in there bios first.
Post by: Troed on March 05, 2004, 10:05:00 AM
If so, then it's as easy as v1.4/1.5 were .. (new videochip = new bios needed) and the reason for M7 / 4981 not working is that they don't have support for the XLB-chip.
EvoX ought to be the first since they'll just release a patched 5530 while Team X-ecuter need to study the initialisation code and rewrite their bios-code.
I don't have access to a Crystal box myself for another few days.
[edit: spelling]
This post has been edited by Troed on Mar 5 2004, 06:11 PM
Post by: heinrich on March 05, 2004, 09:44:00 AM
Post by: bourke on March 05, 2004, 07:40:00 PM
| QUOTE (A.Z.BEST® @ Mar 5 2004, 12:10 PM) | ||
Is bourke alive? I am only wondering what does that mean:
? Heh, green crystal  . I hope bourke can answer before 12 march . |
Finally got 007 - and got the bios for you all!
K:1.00.5713.01
D:1.00.5659.03
Manufactured date: 2004.01.28
DVD drive: Thompson (the new good ones - it reads CDRs!)
Post by: bourke on March 05, 2004, 09:44:00 PM
I am going to try and upload it to Xbins this minute!
Just send me the friggin patch so I can play more than just the Halo games that came with it.
BTW it was only good fortune that saw me grab this the day it arrived at Australian Stores.
It is only supposed to be on shelves here in Australia on March 10th (March 09 US time).
I scored it seven days early from a very cooperative Kmart store assistant :-)
Post by: lookformeb on March 05, 2004, 09:47:00 PM
Post by: bourke on March 05, 2004, 10:01:00 PM
| QUOTE (lookformeb @ Mar 6 2004, 05:47 AM) |
| PM sent |
You have new mail!
Enjoy, mate.
On second thoughts, forget that bit about quoting my name in a text file ;-)
cheers,
Bourkie
Post by: lookformeb on March 05, 2004, 08:10:00 PM
| QUOTE (bourke @ Mar 6 2004, 12:01 AM) | ||
You have new mail! Enjoy, mate. On second thoughts, forget that bit about quoting my name in a text file ;-) cheers, Bourkie |
Got it... was actually hoping for the pics...
Post by: crowmo on March 06, 2004, 04:45:00 AM
as i plane to buy it (my first xbox) and wonna know the hardware inside, so i be abple to put a modchip or mybe a softmode,
Thnx in advance
Post by: Troed on March 06, 2004, 04:48:00 AM
| QUOTE (bourke @ Mar 6 2004, 04:40 AM) |
| K:1.00.5713.01 |
That was interesting - there are both 5530 and a new 5713 in the Crystal editions?
Post by: MaTiAz on March 06, 2004, 05:23:00 AM
This post has been edited by MaTiAz on Mar 6 2004, 01:28 PM
Post by: Gman22 on March 06, 2004, 06:24:00 AM
Post by: crowmo on March 06, 2004, 06:34:00 AM
here link
New Xbox videochip : Xcalibur ?
BUt nothing else, i wonna know which dvdrom,which hdd, and all stuff, i know on one page ww.wolfsoft.de they will ship the crystall edition today 06.03 :)
so before ordering i wonna know some informatio :))),
and i like that crstall casse and 2 s gamepades,
Eny info will be good,
Post by: bourke on March 06, 2004, 07:54:00 AM
| QUOTE (Troed @ Mar 6 2004, 12:48 PM) | ||
That was interesting - there are both 5530 and a new 5713 in the Crystal editions? |
You have new mail Troed :-)
cheers,
Bourkie
Post by: bourke on March 06, 2004, 07:58:00 AM
plus my gf decided to have have too many Vodkas - christ she only weighs like 70 lb!
Anyway, I shall post some internal and external pics of my little green man in the morning! (about 10 hours time).
Post by: Troed on March 06, 2004, 08:25:00 AM
Anyway - MCPX v1.1 (wonderful tool Franz) has no problems with the new BIOS [5713], neither has Xbtool (although it's unsupported of course) after the internal RC4 key has been calculated.
My guess is that these new bios revisions pose no problems. I haven't got time to boot them both in a v1.4 just yet - I'm off to a party and then I'm going to watch Formula1 (which is 4am here ;) so ... tomorrow - if no one beats me to it.
Post by: bourke on March 06, 2004, 06:44:00 AM
| QUOTE (Troed @ Mar 6 2004, 04:25 PM) |
| (Are we talking about two different models here? The new crystal model appearing in Europe is transparent white - not green) Anyway - MCPX v1.1 (wonderful tool Franz) has no problems with the new BIOS [5713], neither has Xbtool (although it's unsupported of course) after the internal RC4 key has been calculated. My guess is that these new bios revisions pose no problems. I haven't got time to boot them both in a v1.4 just yet - I'm off to a party and then I'm going to watch Formula1 (which is 4am here so ... tomorrow - if no one beats me to it. |
It's like the boring white one shown here:
http://www.ladydragon.com/020204.html
Except the Australian ones are coloured a groovy GREEN!
They are boxed with Halo and a matching green controller.
It was pretty expensive (about US$250), but since I got it before any other person in Australia who cares!
cheers,
Bourkie
Post by: bourke on March 06, 2004, 08:47:00 AM
All I can do now is take some happy snaps and post them tomorrow for your personal pleasure!
Post by: bourke on March 06, 2004, 06:07:00 PM
Anyway I heard on the 'grape vine' (read: xboxhacker.net) that the EvoX team are already working on support. Those guys (I assume guys!) are even bigger legends!
Thank you all.
cheers,
Bourkie
Post by: MaTiAz on March 07, 2004, 01:05:00 AM
| QUOTE (bourke @ Mar 7 2004, 02:07 AM) |
| Just a quick thankyou to whoever put the 5713 onto Xbins last night, you're a dead-set legend :-) |
You mean heinrich, right?
Post by: crowmo on March 07, 2004, 04:28:00 AM
and if someone find new info post it here thnx,
Post by: bourke on March 07, 2004, 06:10:00 AM
| QUOTE (MaTiAz @ Mar 7 2004, 09:05 AM) | ||
You mean heinrich, right? |
Only Troed and lookformeb were given access to my bios, so I assume one of them forwarded it to the appropriate people.
Post by: bucko on March 07, 2004, 04:31:00 AM
Post by: lookformeb on March 07, 2004, 08:58:00 AM
| QUOTE (bourke @ Mar 7 2004, 08:10 AM) |
| Only Troed and lookformeb were given access to my bios, so I assume one of them forwarded it to the appropriate people. |
I have absolutely no idea what you are talkin about...
Post by: heinrich on March 07, 2004, 12:31:00 PM
Does someone with a '1.6' have a lpc modchip, that they can try to boot the new bios from?
Just to make sure there are no lpc changes..
Post by: crowmo on March 08, 2004, 01:23:00 AM
Xbox rev 1.6
I hope that there will be posibility for softmoding, as i dont wonna loose warianty, becouse it is ew xbox and who know how good they made it :))).
Post by: Troed on March 08, 2004, 02:48:00 AM
Upon reboot, I got dashboard error 13.
"13 - kernel - Dashboard launch fail (due to missing/bad key, or anything else that would prevent it from running) and the dashboard didn't specify why it failed."
I can't remember ever having done anything to my original dashboard that would cause it to fail a signature-check. This shouldn't pose a problem though, as I'm sure the BIOS-hackers can get around whatever caused it to fail.
(What I didn't check just know is if "old dashboards" have been blocked - mine is not XboxLive upgraded. That would make sense I guess, and I really should take that extra minute now to check ... )
Post by: Troed on March 08, 2004, 03:23:00 AM
It would still be good if someone with a v1.6 could, as heinrich suggested, flash an LPC modchip with the original 5713 bios, ground D0 and try to boot. If that works, we know that there has been no additional LPC-changes. Watch out for a possible loss of power and ground as in v1.5 though.
Post by: esdubu on March 08, 2004, 04:05:00 AM
| QUOTE (bucko @ Mar 7 2004, 02:31 PM) |
| Anyone know were I can buy one in England. |
You can preorder them in game.
Post by: antz1970 on March 08, 2004, 02:11:00 AM
Post by: A.Z.BEST on March 08, 2004, 04:42:00 AM
Theres a topic in 'TSOP flashing' about the new 1.6
Post by: shodanjr_gr on March 08, 2004, 05:08:00 AM
| QUOTE (Troed @ Mar 8 2004, 10:48 AM) |
| Now this is slightly (not much) worrying. Since I don't have a v1.6 box yet I thought I'd at least do something - so I flashed the new 5713 bios to my LPC modchip in my v1.4 Xbox. Upon reboot, I got dashboard error 13. "13 - kernel - Dashboard launch fail (due to missing/bad key, or anything else that would prevent it from running) and the dashboard didn't specify why it failed." I can't remember ever having done anything to my original dashboard that would cause it to fail a signature-check. This shouldn't pose a problem though, as I'm sure the BIOS-hackers can get around whatever caused it to fail. (What I didn't check just know is if "old dashboards" have been blocked - mine is not XboxLive upgraded. That would make sense I guess, and I really should take that extra minute now to check ... ) |
From what ive been reading, the new kernel (5710?) has some sort of check that does not allow it to boot older dashboards, probably so as to prevent us from softmodding our boxes. So i guess the new bios is detecting some dashboard that is older than the one it is allowed to boot with and displays a corrupted dashboard error.
Post by: Dansken on March 08, 2004, 03:11:00 AM
Post by: crowmo on March 08, 2004, 06:44:00 AM
and hope i will get soon as posible, normal edition without modship, as i only wonna be able to instal Xbox Media Player, and mybe posibility to play backuped games ( :) ), i wil, not need live, only mybe setup network for streaming video,audio :)
as before, eny info here will be accepted :)))
bye, :evil:
Post by: Exobex on March 08, 2004, 07:35:00 AM
| QUOTE (Troed @ Mar 8 2004, 09:48 AM) |
| Now this is slightly (not much) worrying. Since I don't have a v1.6 box yet I thought I'd at least do something - so I flashed the new 5713 bios to my LPC modchip in my v1.4 Xbox. Upon reboot, I got dashboard error 13. "13 - kernel - Dashboard launch fail (due to missing/bad key, or anything else that would prevent it from running) and the dashboard didn't specify why it failed." I can't remember ever having done anything to my original dashboard that would cause it to fail a signature-check. This shouldn't pose a problem though, as I'm sure the BIOS-hackers can get around whatever caused it to fail. (What I didn't check just know is if "old dashboards" have been blocked - mine is not XboxLive upgraded. That would make sense I guess, and I really should take that extra minute now to check ... ) |
Might be worth upgrading your dash to Live 2.0 and trying again. I assume Live 2.0 is available from #xbins? Failing that, do any of the new games like Rainbow Six 3 have a newer dashupdate.xbe that would do it?
Anyway, methinks a hacked BIOS will have this little wrinkle ironed out!
Post by: lordvader129 on March 08, 2004, 11:41:00 AM
| QUOTE (Dansken @ Mar 8 2004, 07:11 AM) |
| It it possible to split that v1.6 1024bios into 256k ? i cant get the latest xbtool to load it. |
just use the resize button in xbtool, dont try to open the bios, you you cna use a hex editor, just copy the last 262144 bytes and paste as a new .bin
| QUOTE (Exobex @ Mar 8 2004, 11:35 AM) |
| Might be worth upgrading your dash to Live 2.0 and trying again. I assume Live 2.0 is available from #xbins? Failing that, do any of the new games like Rainbow Six 3 have a newer dashupdate.xbe that would do it? |
xbins doesnt host any MS dashboards, dont know about rainbow 6, but im 99.99% sure ninja gaiden contains Live 2.0 (my friend got updated and now gets error 21 from his color-modded xboxdash.xbe, so im guessing he got upgraded to 2.0)
| QUOTE (Exobex @ Mar 8 2004, 11:35 AM) |
| Anyway, methinks a hacked BIOS will have this little wrinkle ironed out! |
yep, softmods suck anyway
This post has been edited by lordvader129 on Mar 8 2004, 07:42 PM
Post by: Dansken on March 08, 2004, 12:30:00 PM
Post by: desertboy on March 08, 2004, 12:54:00 PM
| QUOTE (Dansken @ Mar 8 2004, 08:30 PM) |
| I flashed the 5713 to my Chameleon in my v1.1 box, i use Live 2.0 dash, when i powered the box on it just flashes red/green |
Well that points to the obvious they removed connexant encoder code.
In fact it probably will frag anything but a 1.6
It might be time for different bios's for different xbox's again.
Post by: Exobex on March 08, 2004, 12:21:00 PM
| QUOTE (desertboy @ Mar 8 2004, 07:54 PM) | ||
Well that points to the obvious they removed connexant encoder code. In fact it probably will frag anything but a 1.6 It might be time for different bios's for different xbox's again. |
Hmmm... that'll keep us TSOP-flashers on our toes, no more running on autopilot when modding a box!
Unless, of course, there's something else it's grumbling about, such as extra data in the EEPROM (
), a completely rearranged EEPROM ( 
) or a bigger EEPROM ( 
).It'd be worth trying the new BIOS on 1.2/1.3 (Conexant) and 1.4/1.5 (Focus) machines, as these ought to be more closely related to the 1.6 machine. Unfortunately mine's a 1.1, so I can't help (and I've just dropped a Xenium in it too - bugger!)
Bourke, any chance of you passing an EEPROM dump onto the appropriate crew? 007savewithevox should let you do it (just make sure there's a "backup" command in your evox.ini). Perhaps they'll spot something odd in there.
Post by: Troed on March 08, 2004, 02:53:00 PM
I have no v1.1 or v1.0 to test on here right now, and I won't have a v1.6 for yet another few days. Those who have are welcome to try out the LPC-boot thingie (see earlier).
Post by: heinrich on March 08, 2004, 04:27:00 PM
Post by: gomboss on March 08, 2004, 11:37:00 PM
Have anyone Crystal xbox (limited edition)? I will buy one, but i don't know, if that xbox is the same with other xboxes (motherboard). Will work with Aladdin modchip?
Thanks
Post by: thebri on March 08, 2004, 11:45:00 PM
This is Xbox Crystal... don't know much more.
I imagine it's the same build as the latest xbox version, just with a different case
Post by: thegame_evolution on March 08, 2004, 09:50:00 PM
Im in love........
I WANT
I WANT
I WANT!!!!!
Post by: crowmo on March 09, 2004, 12:29:00 AM
(try search function) :)) XBoX Crystall Edition
I am in love to,
I WOnna it i woona it
:P :jester: :beer:
(i am waiting for info from www.wolfsoft.de ) :)
hope they will write me :)
Post by: heinrich on March 09, 2004, 12:37:00 AM
Post by: crowmo on March 09, 2004, 01:01:00 AM
This post has been edited by crowmo on Mar 9 2004, 09:04 AM
Post by: crowmo on March 09, 2004, 01:46:00 AM
| QUOTE |
we don?t know the specifications at the moment! We can tell you on end of this week! Best Regards Your WS Team |
(( so i gues they dont have it jet as they put that shipment of regular xbox crystall will start on 11.03 and moded on 12.03,Post by: bourke on March 09, 2004, 02:16:00 AM
| QUOTE (Alcofrolic @ Mar 9 2004, 11:58 AM) |
| um, is it just me or has bourke nt posted his pics yet!? im totally unconvinced that his "green" xbox is a limited edition one! show us some pics mate |
OK guys I will now put up the pics... I promised I would, so I wont renege.
(I do work a 60-hour week as a J2EE consultant you do realise! + our current project is 3 weeks OT and my PM is getting shitty LOL!)
Anyway... time to get out the digital camera for you all!
...BRB
Post by: bourke on March 09, 2004, 02:33:00 AM
Feels bad posting photos of her naked insides... feels like I am violating someone underage (not talking from experience mind you!).
Post by: bourke on March 09, 2004, 02:55:00 AM
Post by: A.Z.BEST on March 09, 2004, 04:38:00 AM
. We've had that boxes 1 year ago. But I'm gonna stand on my head to get that new box... But I am afraid that Crystals will arrive at the end of march to my town 
. Anybody in Germany? Its easy to get them there (fe. in Aachen).
Post by: crowmo on March 09, 2004, 07:19:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| Anybody in Germany? Its easy to get them there (fe. in Aachen). |
you have WolfSoft
i am not from germany but my friend is and he order me one and they sed to him that will ship in 11.03.2004 (i post url and info already read the topics
)) )and they accept COD so
)) what you are waiting (sey some good word about me hehe )
Post by: Exobex on March 09, 2004, 07:53:00 AM
| QUOTE (Troed @ Mar 8 2004, 09:53 PM) |
| How the last two posters were able to miss my post where I wrote that the 5713 bios booted nicely in a v1.4 (Focus, that is) I can't understand Yes, they might've removed Connexant support - but 5713 works in at least 1.4 and 1.6 ... I have no v1.1 or v1.0 to test on here right now, and I won't have a v1.6 for yet another few days. Those who have are welcome to try out the LPC-boot thingie (see earlier). |
Hadn't missed it, just forgot it!
So you get a service error 13 when booting a 1.4 with the new BIOS, eh?
Tried updating your dash to Live 2.0 and retrying? Might be worth a go, so we can see what can and can't be done, and maybe give us a clue as to what the Xbox BIOS gods are up against!
Post by: psyberxian on March 09, 2004, 09:21:00 AM
Can't someone mould inject a clear case for a regular XBOX? Figure whoever is making the cases can be inspired to sell them as replacements for broken cases??
I'd maybe buy one of those...
-Psyber
Post by: Exobex on March 09, 2004, 09:25:00 AM
| QUOTE (psyberxian @ Mar 9 2004, 06:21 PM) |
| geezus.... I'm looking through the thread and everyone is crapping their pants to get one of these.. it's an XBOX people.. it's got a translucent case. Kinda cool...would be better if the metal shield on the upper part of the case didn't obstruct the view of the motherboard.. Can't someone mould inject a clear case for a regular XBOX? Figure whoever is making the cases can be inspired to sell them as replacements for broken cases?? I'd maybe buy one of those... -Psyber |
M$ would be SOOOOOO pissed off at someone wiping out their "limited edition" sales!
Post by: Exobex on March 09, 2004, 09:31:00 AM
Let's hope the more closely-related 1.2 and 1.3 boards yield some more positive results...
Post by: Troed on March 09, 2004, 10:14:00 AM
| QUOTE (Exobex @ Mar 9 2004, 06:31 PM) |
| How the last poster was able to miss Dansken's post where he wrote that the 5713 bios FRAGs in his v1.1 (with Live 2.0 dash, that is) I can't understand |
I'm not convinced that's due to the actual kernel fragging though - a repacked bios might work.
Post by: psyberxian on March 09, 2004, 12:08:00 PM
| QUOTE (conrad_vig @ Mar 9 2004, 09:50 PM) |
| cool...would be better if the metal shield on the upper part of the case didn't obstruct the view of the motherboard.. How the fuck can u see motherboard when dvd and hard drive are on top !!!??? |
well of course through the see through DVD and HD units... you moron!!!
lol!
-Psyber
Post by: conrad_vig on March 09, 2004, 12:28:00 PM
Why not have see through dvd,s and cables as well ?
or why not invisible hard drive, that way you can see your motherboard.
Infact why bother at all, YOU said Crystal xbox... So What.
So why the fuck start a post saying whats the point in having a crystal xbox and then say it would be cool ?
DOH!
Post by: EmperorPsiblade on March 09, 2004, 03:44:00 PM
psyber... i remember your posts in the Xenium forum but i won't go there...
| QUOTE |
| So why the fuck start a post saying whats the point in having a crystal xbox and then say it would be cool ? |
conrad_vig... where does he say it is cool????
people like cool looking clear things.... end of discussion....
do i need to get out the "Enthusiast" tazer of 'Enthusiast-ish" doom?
Post by: lookformeb on March 09, 2004, 04:03:00 PM
| QUOTE (EmperorPsiblade @ Mar 9 2004, 07:44 PM) | ||
| oh god..... all u n00bs be quiet... psyber... i remember your posts in the Xenium forum but i won't go there...
conrad_vig... where does he say it is cool???? people like cool looking clear things.... end of discussion.... do i need to get out the newbie tazer of n00bish doom? |
Look at the date you joined... before I merged the thread you were the "noobiest" member. Post count has never signified knowledge here and neither can a joining date.
I'm getting fairly annoyed at "noobies" bashing "noobies" as if everyone wasn't one at some point in time...
Post by: JetLag on March 10, 2004, 07:25:00 AM
I'm looking for advice of the knowlegable members here.
Should I cancel the order while I still can and buy a regular Xbox or do you guys think this version will be mod-able in a very short time and there should be no problem.
Thanks for reactions in advance.
JetLag
Post by: Exobex on March 10, 2004, 07:29:00 AM
| QUOTE (JetLag @ Mar 10 2004, 04:25 PM) |
| O.K. guys. I'm new to this XBox thing and I would never buy a game console just as that. But after digging myself into the info I decided that a modded Xbox is definately worthwhile. So went ahead and pre-ordered a crystal xbox. Since I'm buying one anyway it might as well look cool I thought. Now I read everywhere that this crystal thing has a new videochip and a new bios. As far as I know it might even be a new motherbord or whatever. I'm looking for advice of the knowlegable members here. Should I cancel the order while I still can and buy a regular Xbox or do you guys think this version will be mod-able in a very short time and there should be no problem. Thanks for reactions in advance. JetLag |
I'll be moddable soon, I have no doubt.
Remember, there's one common feature throughout all security measures that M$ have created...
They're not secure!
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 10, 2004, 07:52:00 AM
Post by: lookformeb on March 10, 2004, 08:33:00 AM
Some people are saying there is no d0 on it... i wanna see pics!
Post by: MrMurder on March 10, 2004, 10:48:00 AM
Post by: ComputerDude5565 on March 10, 2004, 10:56:00 AM
Post by: The LukeMan on March 10, 2004, 02:42:00 PM
Post by: tNCecil on March 10, 2004, 03:06:00 PM
Post by: ComputerDude5565 on March 10, 2004, 05:12:00 PM
Post by: lookformeb on March 10, 2004, 11:01:00 PM
| QUOTE (ComputerDude5565 @ Mar 10 2004, 09:12 PM) |
| Wow you being a little critical. |
Well, he's being accurate... there's a difference...
Post by: bourke on March 10, 2004, 11:20:00 PM
| QUOTE (The LukeMan @ Mar 11 2004, 12:42 AM) |
| i wanna see pics too Same here show me the money |
OK, I'll keep my second promise: within 24 hours I'll post the internals.
(My project is still behind and in SIT phase so I better put work first - also I just asked for a pay rise!)
cheers,
Bourkie
Post by: rms2001 on March 11, 2004, 06:02:00 AM
I should have my order of them in about a week. But Im sure some one in Europe will know about this before they show up on my door step. If no one knows when I got mine Ill be sure to take some pics and post them.
Post by: lookformeb on March 11, 2004, 09:23:00 AM
This post has been edited by lookformeb on Mar 11 2004, 05:25 PM
Post by: ph7 on March 11, 2004, 05:13:00 PM
I like the new colour (or lack of), I'm yet to be impressed by translucent PC cases, but because of the shielding, it should look pretty good. Also opens up the prospects of new forms of case modding. A few well placed LEDs could make the entire case change colour. You could have various controlled colours to suit your mood.
Could look kinda good.
I'm sure many ideas will arise for this 'blank canvas'.
Edit: I'm aware my sig no longer matches the background....on my things to do along with finding out what happened to hank...
This post has been edited by ph7 on Mar 12 2004, 01:15 AM
Post by: bourke on March 12, 2004, 04:09:00 AM
* Philips DVD - Manufactured: December 03 - also reads CDRs :-)
* Focus video decoder
* Kernel 5713
I successfully TSOP flashed it with the EvoX M7.
Seems like some of them are version 1.5 maybe?
... photos of my PCB to come.
Post by: JetLag on March 12, 2004, 05:55:00 AM
Post by: Troed on March 12, 2004, 11:58:00 AM
| QUOTE (bourke @ Mar 12 2004, 11:09 AM) |
| * Focus video decoder * Kernel 5713 I successfully TSOP flashed it with the EvoX M7. |
... that might very well be true. We should start hearing reports from Europan crystal-white owners soon on their hardware.
Post by: Grez on March 12, 2004, 12:14:00 PM
http://grez.org/Crystal/Crystal2.jpg (I changed this from Img to url so that everybody doesn't have to load it. It's 120 kB)
A couple of more pictures http://grez.org/Crystal/
My box has serial
2004-02-02
221 2005xxx 40605 (Masked out some non essential numbers)
So it's build on line 2 of factory 05 on February 2nd 2004.
I would really like to see some pictures of the board and video encoder of that "1.6 box"..
This post has been edited by Grez on Mar 12 2004, 08:50 PM
Post by: Grez on March 12, 2004, 10:43:00 AM
Post by: Troed on March 12, 2004, 01:07:00 PM
| QUOTE (Grez @ Mar 12 2004, 07:14 PM) |
| Well, at least on the Crystal white box I got my hands on it has the good old Focus FS454.. 2004-02-02 |
Thank you - you just saved me the expense of getting a Crystal white from that exact same date (I was about to do that).
The first one to buy a crystal white with the XLB videoencoder and tell the rest of us the manufacturing date wins a ... hmm ... faster modification of his/her own console.
Post by: Grez on March 12, 2004, 11:30:00 AM
Post by: Troed on March 12, 2004, 01:41:00 PM
| QUOTE (Grez @ Mar 12 2004, 08:30 PM) |
| It's not only the date that counts. The box that bourke has is older (2004-01-28) but it's manufactured on line 5 while mine is manufactured on line 2. I guess the ones manufactured on 2004-02-02 on line 5 are probably 1.6 too. |
While that is true, I have yet to see two Xboxes with the same mfg-date but with different internals (including hd, dvd-rom etc) myself personally.
(There are a few, but _very_ few, such entries listed at http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net/docs/versionsdb.html though)
Post by: rms2001 on March 12, 2004, 01:48:00 PM
Post by: legueux on March 12, 2004, 03:27:00 PM
Member of my forum have bought a Crystal and modded sucessfully with X2 2.3b.
Specifications :
- Focus video encoder
- DVD drive is a Philips
- HDD is a Seagate 10GB
- Serial number begin with 40505
- Manufactured date : 2004-01-29
Post by: Grez on March 12, 2004, 05:20:00 PM
| QUOTE (Troed @ Mar 12 2004, 09:41 PM) |
| While that is true, I have yet to see two Xboxes with the same mfg-date but with different internals (including hd, dvd-rom etc) myself personally. |
Well, I have personal experience of boxes that I thought had Samsung since I already had a box made that same day with Samsung, but had Thomson instead. The other ones made on the same line then again had Samsungs. They also had a differenct version of the motherboard.
Post by: Grez on March 12, 2004, 03:21:00 PM
| QUOTE (rms2001 @ Mar 12 2004, 09:48 PM) |
| Holy shit, Grez how did you get your Crystal early? I was told they came out on the 14th and mine would ship the 15th. |
I don't know. I just went to shop today and they had huge pile of these. I thought I might as well buy one ..
Post by: ZakMcRofl on March 12, 2004, 07:06:00 PM
1) Not all (maybe only few) crystal xbox's are really 1.6
2) HDD isn't 20 GB as many reports claimed
BTW how could it come out on the 14th, that's a sunday. It's quite obvious that it's supposed to be released on monday and maybe some stores sell it in advance. Better not tell M$ :)
Post by: rms2001 on March 12, 2004, 08:16:00 PM
| QUOTE (Grez @ Mar 12 2004, 06:21 PM) | ||
I don't know. I just went to shop today and they had huge pile of these. I thought I might as well buy one .. |
Damn lucky you. What store did you buy them from? Freaking GAME won't be shipping my order 'til the 26th or some crap like that.
Post by: MadEx on March 12, 2004, 10:42:00 PM
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Post by: PhReaK on March 13, 2004, 12:30:00 AM
Post by: JetLag on March 12, 2004, 10:50:00 PM
That is one message I was looking for on all the xbox site's for the last few days. Now lets hope I get lucky when mine comes in.
See ya,
JetLag
Post by: moep on March 12, 2004, 11:24:00 PM
Post by: interbos on March 13, 2004, 04:06:00 AM
i picked up one of the green halo xboxs (australian).. has the 5713.01 bios (has the dashboard version check, lucky i backed that up hehe).. oh and a focus video encoder..
its a 1.4 as far as modding is concerned.. 3.3v and ground were connected on lpc.. had an xbox infront of me at the same time which was a 1.5 and made about 5 months earlier which of course needed those connected..weird.
the green halo box had these details:
mfg date is 2004-01-29
serial .....40505
dvd: philips (dec 2003) - read ridata/tdk cdrs fine, couldnt read gat cds (like who cares hehe)
hdd: seagate (thin white top model)
was surprised that some of the lpc stuff was connected again.. not complaining tho.. its running fine with the m7 bios (as expected) from the lpc using the bottom d0 point..
cheers
-bos
Post by: CMods on March 13, 2004, 04:16:00 AM
| QUOTE (interbos @ Mar 13 2004, 12:06 PM) |
| mfg date is 2004-01-29 serial .....40505 |
Hey, could you please post the first number of the serial number too. (the 4 th number on product number) so we would know on which factory line it was made.
That 40505 simply means that it's made in year (200)4 on week 05 in China (05), so that's no additional information after the manufacturing date.
Post by: ukchipper on March 13, 2004, 04:04:00 AM
| QUOTE (Grez @ Mar 13 2004, 01:21 AM) | ||
I don't know. I just went to shop today and they had huge pile of these. I thought I might as well buy one .. |
What shop mate I want one
Post by: crazymaniac on March 13, 2004, 04:46:00 AM
| QUOTE (Grez @ Mar 12 2004, 08:14 PM) |
| Well, at least on the Crystal white box I got my hands on it has the good old Focus FS454.. http://grez.org/Crystal/Crystal2.jpg (I changed this from Img to url so that everybody doesn't have to load it. It's 120 kB) A couple of more pictures http://grez.org/Crystal/ My box has serial 2004-02-02 221 2005xxx 40605 (Masked out some non essential numbers) So it's build on line 2 of factory 05 on February 2nd 2004. I would really like to see some pictures of the board and video encoder of that "1.6 box".. |
oh man if you could post some pictures of the motherboard you would make me very happy
Post by: Grez on March 13, 2004, 10:06:00 AM
| QUOTE (ukchipper @ Mar 13 2004, 02:04 PM) |
| What shop mate I want one |
Well, here is one shop that is currently selling them. http://www.netanttil...rrfnbr=14170726. That's page for Xbox crystal edition, but you'll have to go to that page twice, since first time without cookie you'll just get to main site.
I guess they only ship to Finland, but that shouldn't be a problem if you can travel
Post by: Grez on March 13, 2004, 12:08:00 PM
| QUOTE (crazymaniac @ Mar 13 2004, 02:46 PM) |
| oh man if you could post some pictures of the motherboard you would make me very happy :D |
My mobo is plain ordinary 1.4 motherboard, but I guess I'll post pictures of that too along with other requests.
Post by: crazymaniac on March 13, 2004, 10:56:00 AM
Post by: Exobex on March 13, 2004, 11:02:00 AM
| QUOTE (crazymaniac @ Mar 13 2004, 07:56 PM) |
| so, the d0 is at the same place as the d0 on an ordinary v1.4 motherboard |
Judging by the fact that people have successfully modded it, rather than wailing and setting off a panic (like the 1.2 board did) I'd say yes.
Post by: crazymaniac on March 13, 2004, 01:38:00 PM
This post has been edited by crazymaniac on Mar 13 2004, 09:41 PM
Post by: Grez on March 13, 2004, 12:44:00 PM
| QUOTE (crazymaniac @ Mar 13 2004, 08:56 PM) |
| so, the d0 is at the same place as the d0 on an ordinary v1.4 motherboard |
Well, it's an ordinary 1.4 board, so naturally everything is in the same place as with other 1.4 boards.. Otherwise it wouldn't be an 1.4 board, right?
Post by: Grez on March 13, 2004, 02:05:00 PM
pictures of the box with power on. Both in dark and lighted room. I got a request for these in PM.
crazymaniac asked for a motherboard photo. It's completely ordinary 1.4 motherboard, so I hope that not everybody loads it. If you don't believe me then go ahead and have a look. I assure you however, that I know what I am talking about and there are no differences to other 1.4 boards!
Post by: rms2001 on March 13, 2004, 05:11:00 PM
Those green power LEDs will have to go when I get mine. Blue ones would look alot better in there. Or even white ones.
| QUOTE |
| It's completely ordinary 1.4 motherboard, so I hope that not everybody loads it. If you don't believe me then go ahead and have a look. |
If you worried about every one eating up your bandwidth I can host your files. I have a free host that has unlimted bandwidth usage.
This post has been edited by rms2001 on Mar 14 2004, 01:15 AM
Post by: interbos on March 13, 2004, 06:59:00 PM
prod id: 551 50208xx 40505
cheers.
-b
Post by: SpyderMod on March 13, 2004, 07:02:00 PM
Post by: photoman on March 13, 2004, 08:55:00 PM
| QUOTE (SpyderMod @ Mar 14 2004, 03:02 AM) |
| do you know if they will be saling them in the usa |
no these are completely European exclusives. so you either have to have a friend in Europe, find a shop that ships to USA, or cough up some cash when the hit ebay.
but if you bring one into the USA, you have to change the PSU and video mode for it to even work on your tv. do a search if you are curious on how to get it to work properly. is was discussed last week sometime.
Post by: crazymaniac on March 13, 2004, 11:00:00 PM
| QUOTE (Grez @ Mar 14 2004, 12:05 AM) |
| Pictures added upon request... http://grez.org/Crystal/ pictures of the box with power on. Both in dark and lighted room. I got a request for these in PM. crazymaniac asked for a motherboard photo. It's completely ordinary 1.4 motherboard, so I hope that not everybody loads it. If you don't believe me then go ahead and have a look. I assure you however, that I know what I am talking about and there are no differences to other 1.4 boards! |
ok, thanks mate! i hope the later versions of the crystal in holland (where i come from) are also 1.4...
Post by: nazghoul on March 13, 2004, 11:17:00 PM
| QUOTE (crowmo @ Mar 8 2004, 02:44 PM) |
| Heh Thomson DVD rom that read CDr's that is great, well i dont know is it right or bad stuff, but i order one xbox from WolfSoft and hope i will get soon as posible, normal edition without modship, as i only wonna be able to instal Xbox Media Player, and mybe posibility to play backuped games ( ), i wil, not need live, only mybe setup network for streaming video,audio as before, eny info here will be accepted ))bye,  |
this offer is great, i would have ordered the crystal box with 300 gb harddisk and chip but i think they could have @ least offerd some other chips like smartXX
or maybe i just drive there and bring them my smartXX chip so they can mod my xbox @ the store
(ist ja nicht so weit weg
)engl: "its not that far away"
Post by: Ape Escape on March 14, 2004, 04:44:00 AM
Question is the tray from the dvdrom drive also crystal clear? (can you make a picture with dvd tray open and no dvd insert) I one know if i can use my samsung dvdrom drive in it :) (hope the tray is black and just the front only crystal clear) If not i hope i can fit the tray from a philips inside a samsung
Post by: crazymaniac on March 14, 2004, 04:54:00 AM
Post by: Deckards on March 14, 2004, 05:44:00 AM
Anyway what are the advantages of a modchip from the hot swap?
This post has been edited by Deckards on Mar 14 2004, 03:07 PM
Post by: glared1 on March 14, 2004, 06:33:00 AM
these consoles ship with the PAL video designation, am i right in thinking xboxes output NTSC/PAL simultaneously it all comes down to the scart?
basically i live stateside, and i've wanted one of these since the day i saw it...just want to make sure there's nothing i am overlooking in the specs...
thanks alot in advance.
Post by: Troed on March 14, 2004, 08:32:00 AM
| QUOTE (glared1 @ Mar 14 2004, 01:33 PM) |
| this is a bit of a noob question, but i just got off the phone with a place who can ship me one, and i realized theres a few things i am unsure about... these consoles ship with the PAL video designation, am i right in thinking xboxes output NTSC/PAL simultaneously it all comes down to the scart? basically i live stateside, and i've wanted one of these since the day i saw it...just want to make sure there's nothing i am overlooking in the specs... thanks alot in advance. |
Enigmah Videomode Selector
Switches Xboxes between PAL and NTSC - and yes - there's no hardware difference (aside from the PSU) - it's all down to a byte in the eeprom.
I run my PAL Xbox as NTSC to get HDTV to my projector.
Post by: billman311 on March 14, 2004, 10:24:00 AM
Post by: Xavbox on March 14, 2004, 09:23:00 AM
Post by: crazymaniac on March 14, 2004, 11:35:00 AM
This post has been edited by crazymaniac on Mar 14 2004, 07:36 PM
Post by: Grez on March 14, 2004, 03:31:00 PM
| QUOTE (crazymaniac @ Mar 14 2004, 12:54 PM) |
| what i can see from those photo's (and other ones) is only the front of it crystal... |
Well, that's the side I think most people are looking most of the time. Also on my pictures you should be able to have some look on the top too ;)
But I took pictures of the sides, back and bottom too.
And somone asked about the tray.. It's black with clear front bar. Picture of that posted too.
| QUOTE |
| If you worried about every one eating up your bandwidth I can host your files. I have a free host that has unlimted bandwidth usage. |
Nah.. It has been only a bit less than half a gigabyte on Sunday and probably cooling down, so no worries. Still the big MB picture had impact - same amount of hits (4200) both on Saturday and Sunday but Sunday is 477 MB instead of 180 MB on Saturday.
This post has been edited by Grez on Mar 14 2004, 11:59 PM
Post by: Grez on March 14, 2004, 03:35:00 PM
| QUOTE (crazymaniac @ Mar 14 2004, 07:35 PM) |
| there is something not clear to me, do all crystal xboxes have a focus encoder, or are also encoders of the other type in it (can't remember the name at this moment)... |
There are total of three encoders. Conexant (v. 1.0-1.3), Focus (1.4-1.5) and now this new XBL or Xcalibur or such (1.6). The original rumour was that all crystal boxes are 1.6 and thus have this not yet supported encoder. That rumour has been proven false, but there probably are some Crystal boxes with the new chip and also there will probably be normal black boxes with the new encoder surfacing some day.
Post by: rms2001 on March 14, 2004, 04:16:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| but there probably are some Crystal boxes with the new chip |
Just watch and see, my ten will be the only Crystal Pack units with the new encoder.
Post by: Qster on March 15, 2004, 12:45:00 AM
THX
Post by: CybBlade on March 15, 2004, 02:27:00 AM
with focus and it's a v. 1.4. It comes from china and the prod line is 2. the DVD is philips and hdd is a western digital (not 20 gigs the well known 8 gigs)
Post by: crazymaniac on March 15, 2004, 10:44:00 AM
Post by: crowmo on March 15, 2004, 09:04:00 AM
) is that mistake .something new=betther (in some time not betther but who know)
I will not use it for linux or something, i will just install XBMP and plays backuped games
) (when come new hack for new rev till that just play ORG dvd's and games)
Post by: Grez on March 15, 2004, 02:43:00 PM
| QUOTE (crowmo @ Mar 15 2004, 07:04 PM) |
| One more newbie question, if my crystall edition be rev 1.6 with that new video chip is that mean video (when playing games and wotching dvd's) will be betther or no??? |
I would believe that the video quality is tiny bit worse than with Focus but still much better than with Conexant. Focus is very good video encoder but much more expensive than Conexant. MS probably is trying to cut costs compared to Focus but to still have better quality than with Conexan and thus have changed to Xcalibur.
I might be wrong.
Post by: glared1 on March 16, 2004, 04:41:00 AM
| QUOTE |
I got my new xbox crystal with focus and it's a v. 1.4. It comes from china and the prod line is 2. the DVD is philips and hdd is a western digital (not 20 gigs the well known 8 gigs |
CybBlade, are you stateside? if so, where did you order from?
anyone stateside have any leads as to there to buy one of these?
i've had my heart yearning for this badboy the day i first saw it...
also if anyone overseas who has retail access to one of these boxes would be willing to throw it in a box and ship it i could definately make it worth your while...
PM me if interested.
Post by: CybBlade on March 16, 2004, 04:49:00 AM
Post by: MasurK on March 16, 2004, 08:04:00 AM
if anyone out there lives in vienna and is looking for a crystal... i just bought one at saturn (scs) and they got about 20+ more crystal boxes there...
they are production date 29.01.2004 and mine is a 1.4 or 1.5 with focus chip, philips dvd and a 10gig seagate drive... btw, why is every1 talking about a 20gig drive inside crystals???
g00d luck :)
mas
i can post some pix but i guess there are enought available :]
Post by: crowmo on March 16, 2004, 07:24:00 AM
| QUOTE (CybBlade @ Mar 16 2004, 12:49 PM) |
| if you got a 1.6 u only can wait any modscene team release a new bios to the new video encoder, but if you dont want a xbox modded just get a poor quality (cheaper encoder worst quality) |
So you recomend me to buy crystal edition with focus chip not that new one Xcalibur, becouse betther video quality on focus then Xcalibur??? is This true can someone confirm me, i dont have any xbox and dont wonna buy some buged with cheep stuff.
As my primary use of XBoX is be Multimedia System with XBMP and that
)) and then in free time playing backuped games(softmod only)thnx
Post by: A.Z.BEST on March 17, 2004, 04:29:00 AM
BTW, normal T-shirt from Armanis costs over 350$, and a t-shirt from Adidas costs about 30... do you see any real differences?
EDIT: bourke, can you tell me, are you from Australia or from Asia, cause my friends are very confused about that Halo edition pack (Halo fans ;))... where did you get one?
This post has been edited by A.Z.BEST® on Mar 17 2004, 12:44 PM
Post by: ZakMcRofl on March 17, 2004, 05:32:00 AM
Has ANYONE reported an 1.6 xbox in here yet, I am beginning to think that the existance of 1.6 crystal boxes it just a hoax.
I'm not saying 1.6 boxes don't exist but apparently the majority is 1.4 ...
Regards, Zak
Post by: marietto on March 17, 2004, 05:47:00 AM
I'm marietto from Italy.
Maybe I've got an 1.6 Xbox!!!!
I've bought it this morning. The motherboard is similar to other 1.4 I've modded, the HD is a Seagate, DVD Philips, chip Focus FS454, but where it should be a d0 point, there's nothing! Also the other points near the old d0 are missing. They're green as they weren't active.
I don't speak english very well, but it's a little odd. I've modded 20 xbox until today, but I've never seen a MB like this.
4025226 40505, 29-01-2004.
If anyone has the same problem, please reply!
Thanks,
Marietto
Post by: Troed on March 17, 2004, 06:29:00 AM
2004-01-31
Focus
v1.4 - although not exactly the same motherboard as the normal black v1.4, subtle differences (of no importance) - which goes to show that even though they made a new revision they did nothing to combat modchips.
I'm a but curious as to why we haven't seen any photos of the v1.6 with the Xcalibur-chip yet?
This post has been edited by Troed on Mar 17 2004, 02:32 PM
Post by: Troed on March 17, 2004, 06:31:00 AM
| QUOTE (marietto @ Mar 17 2004, 12:47 PM) |
| Focus FS454, but where it should be a d0 point, there's nothing! Also the other points near the old d0 are missing. They're green as they weren't active. |
Except for the top d0 which I never use that's what I saw also on the "new" Crystal v1.4 motherboard. That "green" thing you can scrape away.
Use the alternative d0 on the bottom side of the motherboard.
Post by: CybBlade on March 17, 2004, 06:26:00 AM
| QUOTE |
crowmo So you recomend me to buy crystal edition with focus chip not that new one Xcalibur, becouse betther video quality on focus then Xcalibur??? is This true can someone confirm me, i dont have any xbox and dont wonna buy some buged with cheep stuff. As my primary use of XBoX is be Multimedia System with XBMP and that )) and then in free time playing backuped games(softmod only) |
The quality is good in both, my personal advice is thay you buy this precious xbox
Post by: CybBlade on March 17, 2004, 08:29:00 AM
if u can post some pictures and check if the 2 dot of lpc is connected to ground. the new 1.6 got the XLB video encoder, maybe a 1.4 revision? who knows?
Post by: crazymaniac on March 17, 2004, 09:33:00 AM
| QUOTE (marietto @ Mar 17 2004, 01:47 PM) |
| but where it should be a d0 point, there's nothing! |
does anyone else than marrieto have this problem???
Post by: Troed on March 17, 2004, 09:38:00 AM
| QUOTE (crazymaniac @ Mar 17 2004, 04:33 PM) | ||
does anyone else than marrieto have this problem??? |
I did not check the top D0, but a lot of the vias on the top side were indeed lacquered (green) - it might be there but "covered"? (Should be scrapeable)
On the Crystal 1.4 I saw D0 on the bottom side worked as usual.
Post by: crazymaniac on March 17, 2004, 08:25:00 AM
Post by: marietto on March 17, 2004, 10:39:00 AM
I've posted in an italian forum also, and they told me to scrub away the green...
Anyway, this is the picture.
If you can, please send me a link to a page where I can see the D0 on the bottom side of the MB.
Thanks,
marietto
I've put a pic at this address:
www.marietto.net/xbox/16.jpg
Post by: Troed on March 17, 2004, 10:51:00 AM
| QUOTE (marietto @ Mar 17 2004, 05:39 PM) |
| I've posted in an italian forum also, and they told me to scrub away the green... |
You've got the same v1.4 motherboard that I looked at today. D0 is there, but you would need to scrape it.
Use the alternative point instead:
(IMG:http://www.x-elixis.com/images/final/installation/d0_4_.jpg)
Post by: CybBlade on March 17, 2004, 11:38:00 AM
this is D0 and i think you got an v 1.4
This post has been edited by CybBlade on Mar 17 2004, 07:43 PM
Post by: crazymaniac on March 17, 2004, 12:05:00 PM
Post by: marietto on March 18, 2004, 12:38:00 AM
I've used the bottom alternative d0 and it works!!!
Many thanks to everybody!!!
See you soon!!
Marietto
www.marietto.net/xbox
Post by: spacefrog on March 18, 2004, 01:28:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| Question is the tray from the dvdrom drive also crystal clear? (can you make a picture with dvd tray open and no dvd insert) I one know if i can use my samsung dvdrom drive in it (hope the tray is black and just the front only crystal clear) If not i hope i can fit the tray from a philips inside a samsung |
Not sure with the crystal ones, but i have a green Halo xbox, and the tray is black, so u should be able to swap the front bezel? from a normal black xbox.
This post has been edited by spacefrog on Mar 18 2004, 09:40 AM
Post by: Schweino on March 18, 2004, 05:19:00 AM
| QUOTE (spacefrog @ Mar 18 2004, 09:28 AM) | ||
Not sure with the crystal ones, but i have a green Halo xbox, and the tray is black, so u should be able to swap the front bezel? from a normal black xbox. |
Yes, all xbox bezels are interchangable with all xbox dvd drives.
Post by: CybBlade on March 18, 2004, 03:29:00 AM
Post by: Exobex on March 18, 2004, 10:15:00 AM
Get a crystal box, a green box and a blue box, swap lids and tray-ends between them!
Post by: Prulleman on March 18, 2004, 10:55:00 AM
Post by: CybBlade on March 18, 2004, 03:27:00 PM
Post by: Schweino on March 19, 2004, 01:18:00 AM
Post by: jborj on March 19, 2004, 07:54:00 AM
Mine is produced 2004-02-02
Which version is it?
Post by: kdid on March 19, 2004, 08:48:00 AM
| QUOTE (jborj @ Mar 19 2004, 03:54 PM) |
| I´ve got a question. Mine is produced 2004-02-02 Which version is it? |
Mine is same date and it has a focus/1.4 board
Post by: jborj on March 19, 2004, 08:53:00 AM
I hope mine is the same
Post by: DuckBite on March 19, 2004, 09:27:00 AM
mfg. date: 2004-02-04 and had a focus chip, probably a 1.4 i have not tested it but will chip it with a Xenium Modchip today so i'll see.
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Post by: neejoh on March 19, 2004, 12:56:00 PM
v1.4 motherboard.
Focus chip
2004-02-04 MFG date
Focus chip
Philips VAD6035/21 drive
Seagate 10Gb
btw i like the design :P
Post by: dfect on March 19, 2004, 01:18:00 PM
Can someone please post some pics proving theres a new chip (in the aus version)?, havnt seen any on pic yet.
This post has been edited by dfect on Mar 19 2004, 09:22 PM
Post by: CybBlade on March 19, 2004, 02:14:00 PM
Post by: Morticus on March 20, 2004, 02:57:00 AM
But after reading this thread I hesitate. If I have understood it correctly the Crystal edition can come with a 1.6 motherboard - and there exist no modchips today that work with that.
I want it to be modchipped because I want to be able to watch divx and play backuped games on it.
What is the visual differences of the 1.6 board and the previous ones? Is there any way you can see if it is a 1.6 without opening the chassi, like on the production date label?
If the bord has a Xcalibur video encoding ship, does that mean it is a 1.6 and if it has a Focus it is for certain not a 1.6 then?
If I buy a crystal one and it appear to be a 1.6... how long will it take (from now) until there exist safe and stable modchips that will work with the 1.6?
I am in quite a dilemma here and pretty new to the whole xbox scene, and dont really know what to do, it is the functionallity I want the most (play divx and backuped games etc). Should I buy a Crystal one or not... ?
I live in sweden if that makes any difference, and thanks in advance for any replies.
Post by: Troed on March 20, 2004, 04:56:00 AM
| QUOTE (Morticus @ Mar 20 2004, 09:57 AM) |
| Is there any way you can see if it is a 1.6 without opening the chassi, like on the production date label? If the bord has a Xcalibur video encoding ship, does that mean it is a 1.6 and if it has a Focus it is for certain not a 1.6 then? If I buy a crystal one and it appear to be a 1.6... how long will it take (from now) until there exist safe and stable modchips that will work with the 1.6? |
All Swedish Crystals I've heard of are v1.4-boards.
2004-01-31 and 2004-02-02 are v1.4, at least in Sweden. You can check the label for that.
It would be a v1.6 if it has the Xcalibur-chip, but so far we've seen absolutely no proof of such a beast (maybe except for in Australia, although the owner of that box seems to have forgot his promise about photos - see earlier in the thread)
The new kernel in that "v1.6"-box had no new protections (encryption) and so it should be easy for the "usual kernel hackers" to release something like ... EvoX M8, or so.
Post by: alien2108 on March 20, 2004, 08:48:00 AM
MFD:2004-01-30
Focus chip
Philips VAD6035/21 DVD
Seagate 10Gb
v1.4 motherboard.
This post has been edited by alien2108 on Mar 21 2004, 10:11 AM
Post by: Pizza Pizz on March 20, 2004, 10:23:00 AM
UK
2004-02-03
philips dvd - new type with sheild on like old thomson's had
(a little clunk-ier than older philips but reads well)
8gb Western Digital - bummer was hoping for white 10.2gb seagate :(
focus video
ST 256kb tsop
so just flashed the tsop with M7 using eurasia auto flash & 007 auf
sorted
Post by: picht on March 20, 2004, 10:25:00 AM
That is what the modchip does for you.
I think you mean:
Pin 2 and Pin 12 are connected to ground.
check
http://www.xbox-scene.com/versions_5.php
Post by: lookformeb on March 20, 2004, 10:48:00 AM
Post by: CybBlade on March 20, 2004, 01:26:00 PM
Post by: GrumpY on March 20, 2004, 04:17:00 PM
Work fine with an X2.3 and X2 4981 bios ....
Just one problem, the box didn't accept to launch older version of the M$ Dashboard and gave me an error 13 when then X2 is disabled . If anyone have an idea, please tell me. ( yes I'm sure I try with a totally unmodified version of M$ dashboard)
Post by: CybBlade on March 20, 2004, 03:10:00 PM
Post by: JetLag on March 20, 2004, 07:27:00 PM
Post by: Troed on March 20, 2004, 08:46:00 PM
| QUOTE (GrumpY @ Mar 20 2004, 11:17 PM) |
| Just one problem, the box didn't accept to launch older version of the M$ Dashboard |
We've been through that in this thread already I think? The new kernel does that, to stop softmodders. Use a newer MS Dashboard?
Post by: nazghoul on March 21, 2004, 01:42:00 AM
| QUOTE (Schweino @ Mar 19 2004, 09:18 AM) |
| Yes, noisy as hell, the green LE xbox fan is much more quiet. |
as i red today, there are infos about there is a kind of new fan in crystal with a green/white sticker on it from company SUNON which is kind of vibrating like hell and this vibration comes out until the case... so this vibration is loud like hell!!!
thats just a creepy translation
sorrywell, my english is creepy but if someones german speaking (like i am) heres the article in german:
Nicht nur in der Redaktion gab es lange Gesichter und verdutzes Staunen: Die Xbox Crystal entpuppte sich nach dem Anschliessen als lauteste Versuchung, seit es Spielkonsolen gibt. Schuld ist der Gehäuselüfter der mit einem grün-weißen Aufkleber der Firma SUNON beklebt ist. Dieser Lüfter führt zu einer starken Vibration , die sich auf das Gehäuse der Xbox fortsetzt, und so ein störendes helles Brummen verursacht.
could some owners of a crystal box confirm it?
and by the way, as i red is the focus chip a good mid range (better than cox and none of us can tell what difference to excali) are there any crystal owners with old chip? (non focus???)
Post by: bourke on March 21, 2004, 02:52:00 AM
| QUOTE (A.Z.BEST® @ Mar 17 2004, 12:29 PM) |
| EDIT: bourke, can you tell me, are you from Australia or from Asia, cause my friends are very confused about that Halo edition pack (Halo fans )... where did you get one? |
Yes, I am from Australia - the Halo pack sells for about US$240 here.
Post by: eke on March 21, 2004, 07:15:00 AM
| QUOTE (nazghoul @ Mar 21 2004, 11:42 AM) | ||
as i red today, there are infos about there is a kind of new fan in crystal with a green/white sticker on it from company SUNON which is kind of vibrating like hell and this vibration comes out until the case... so this vibration is loud like hell!!! thats just a creepy translation :lol: sorry well, my english is creepy but if someones german speaking (like i am) heres the article in german: Nicht nur in der Redaktion gab es lange Gesichter und verdutzes Staunen: Die Xbox Crystal entpuppte sich nach dem Anschliessen als lauteste Versuchung, seit es Spielkonsolen gibt. Schuld ist der Gehäuselüfter der mit einem grün-weißen Aufkleber der Firma SUNON beklebt ist. Dieser Lüfter führt zu einer starken Vibration , die sich auf das Gehäuse der Xbox fortsetzt, und so ein störendes helles Brummen verursacht. could some owners of a crystal box confirm it? and by the way, as i red is the focus chip a good mid range (better than cox and none of us can tell what difference to excali) are there any crystal owners with old chip? (non focus???) |
yes. the xbox crystal is really extremely noisy. i am thinking of returning it since it's no fun playing games with that kind of constant noise level.
stupid, really absolutely stupid.
Post by: crazymaniac on March 21, 2004, 06:47:00 AM
Post by: eke on March 21, 2004, 09:02:00 AM
some "smartypants" suggested to turn up the volume and stop complaining about fan noise... well all I can say is that there is not much point in turning up the volume since games have silent phases, building up suspension through different sound levels etc. and it's no good if you are constantly bombarded with a jet turbine noise from your xbox...
according to the news reports this problem only persists with the SUNON fans. my model is 2xxxxxxx40605. i.e. china 05 fab line 2. I would surmise all china 05 fab line 2 models will have this problem.
So if you go buy a crystal box make sure NOT to take one of those fab lines (first number in serial and last 2 numbers).
I already packed it back up and will return it tomorrow morning.
It's only a matter of time until this fan dies anyway since its vibrating so much it wont last long. You better stay away from SUNON fanned xboxes.
you have been warned.
This post has been edited by eke on Mar 21 2004, 05:07 PM
Post by: nazghoul on March 21, 2004, 07:20:00 AM
| QUOTE (eke @ Mar 21 2004, 05:02 PM) |
| the whole case makes a loud vibrating noise which is VERY audible when playing, esp. when there's not much game "sound". some "smartypants" suggested to turn up the volume and stop complaining about fan noise... well all I can say is that there is not much point in turning up the volume since games have silent phases, building up suspension through different sound levels etc. and it's no good if you are constantly bombarded with a jet turbine noise from your xbox... according to the news reports this problem only persists with the SUNON fans. my model is 2xxxxxxx40605. i.e. china 05 fab line 2. I would surmise all china 05 fab line 2 models will have this problem. So if you go buy a crystal box make sure NOT to take one of those fab lines (first number in serial and last 2 numbers). I already packed it back up and will return it tomorrow morning. It's only a matter of time until this fan dies anyway since its vibrating so much it wont last long. You better stay away from SUNON fanned xboxes. you have been warned. |
i just wrote a mail to the webshop i ordered my 300 gb smart XX modded crystal box and told them to change the fan if necessary... think all of u should do that cause MS would look strange if u returne a modded xbox
Post by: omg on March 21, 2004, 09:53:00 AM
Post by: nazghoul on March 21, 2004, 09:33:00 AM
| QUOTE (omg @ Mar 21 2004, 05:53 PM) |
| where was this xbox bought from, i like the sound of it web address the 300gig hard is the main seller for me and smart xx is a nice chip 2 |
well, the shop sounds great, they mod my xbox with blue lights and change everything as i want it plus they add a lcd for me
can`t wait to get it on wednesday (ordered in germany, i live in switzerland)
will add some pics when i get it
Post by: crowmo on March 21, 2004, 12:01:00 PM
Post by: CybBlade on March 21, 2004, 10:49:00 AM
Post by: nazghoul on March 21, 2004, 08:22:00 PM
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Post by: wece on March 22, 2004, 03:57:00 AM
Post by: SilentSniper on March 22, 2004, 04:41:00 AM
The see through version, not the green one!
I do have 3,3v on LPC pin 9 and I have a Focus video chip:
Will a modchip work for me? and... What version do I have?
Post by: Troed on March 22, 2004, 06:44:00 AM
| QUOTE (SilentSniper @ Mar 22 2004, 11:41 AM) |
| I got a Crystal XBOX to, brand new... The see through version, not the green one! I do have 3,3v on LPC pin 9 and I have a Focus video chip: Will a modchip work for me? and... What version do I have? |
v1.4, so, all.
Post by: BillGS on March 22, 2004, 03:19:00 PM
Its sad but true,sunon fans produce a hell of a noise.My brand new crystal box sounds just like my PC(which has 6 fans,btw).Keep a sharp eye for mfg date 2004-01-30 and serial 2.....40505.I will take its guts out tommorow morning,pease be patient to see if i have the v1.6 ver(cough**BS**BS**cough).
And a newbie question:can i replace the sunon fan in the crystal box with the one inside my old box(v1.1,barely heard)????
Thanks in advance.
NA EISTE KALA (greek for "be always well")
Post by: SilentSniper on March 23, 2004, 08:22:00 AM
Post by: Exobex on March 23, 2004, 09:19:00 AM
Maybe the 1.6 that's been spotted was one of these early machines. Perhaps M$ drop a few into the supply chain to see if they work, before switching over to mass production?
The upshot being that mnemonico had a Focus chip 3 weeks before anyone else noticed, and had to wait two months for a BIOS.
Post by: Troed on March 23, 2004, 12:03:00 PM
| QUOTE (Exobex @ Mar 23 2004, 06:19 PM) |
| Maybe there aren't many 1.6 boards out there yet. There was one guy on these forums who had a Focus encoder (see mnemonico's post here), reported on 16th July 2003. It didn't get a mention on the Xbox-Scene news page until three weeks later (6th August). Team Xecuter didn't start playing with them until five weeks after that (12th September). The first hacked BIOS (EvoX M7) was released on 20th September. Maybe the 1.6 that's been spotted was one of these early machines. Perhaps M$ drop a few into the supply chain to see if they work, before switching over to mass production? The upshot being that mnemonico had a Focus chip 3 weeks before anyone else noticed, and had to wait two months for a BIOS. |
Exobex: Your timing is WAY off on v1.4 - there were actually machines in Brazil with the Focus chip half a year before they were spotted in Europe .. !
Team X-ecuter did no work at all on v1.4, they were totally asleep through that time. I take the credit for analyzing the difference and the need for a modbios made from the new kernel on that actually .. EvoX did the actual bios-patching work, and (sorry, forgot his name) someone in Asia worked out what differed a v1.5 from a v1.4.
Team X-ecuter had had v1.5-boards since months and had done nothing.
Post by: Tidusblitz111 on March 23, 2004, 01:04:00 PM
Post by: BillGS on March 23, 2004, 05:38:00 PM
i just had my crystal modded with evox (alladin chip) and now the clock reads 12/5/8907.... also,a lot of my old backup games wont run anymore(i get Bios:unknown info in the dashboard too)whats the deal??? which bios is right for me???
Post by: BillGS on March 23, 2004, 05:42:00 PM
focus chip on board
philips dvd (reads cheap cd-r too!!!)
seagate thin white hdd
This post has been edited by BillGS on Mar 24 2004, 02:19 AM
Post by: alsybub on March 23, 2004, 06:29:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| newbie question: i just had my crystal modded with evox (alladin chip) and now the clock reads 12/5/8907.... also,a lot of my old backup games wont run anymore(i get Bios:unknown info in the dashboard too)whats the deal??? which bios is right for me??? |
go back to the xboxdash and reset the clock its simple, this happens when the xbox is unplugged
some games rely on the clock to be set if its on 8907 it wont run, i freaked as well the 1st time it happened to me
This post has been edited by alsybub on Mar 24 2004, 02:30 AM
Post by: BillGS on March 24, 2004, 12:22:00 AM
Post by: Troed on March 24, 2004, 12:38:00 AM
| QUOTE (BillGS @ Mar 24 2004, 07:22 AM) |
| yes but i cannot go back to msdash... when i try to it just says loading and loops back to evolution-x(even if use msdash under the clock tab is set to "yes").Is there another way??? what can i do now??? |
Tell the idiot who modded your box that he shouldn't try to play with stuff he doesn't understand - and get someone who knows more to fix the configuration of your box.
EvoX also sets the time of the box if it's connected to the Internet at boot - so, hook it up.
What all this has to do with Crystal-boxes and a possible v1.6 I don't understand though ...
Post by: Prulleman on March 24, 2004, 05:25:00 AM
and the noise is just terrible!!! 
I haven't opened it yet, but is the noise coming from the 60 mm fan in the back or has this version also a fan on the GPU, I heard that there are versions with and without GPU fans....
Post by: terrorvis on March 24, 2004, 09:09:00 AM
| QUOTE (Prulleman @ Mar 24 2004, 03:25 PM) |
| I haven't opened it yet, but is the noise coming from the 60 mm fan in the back or has this version also a fan on the GPU, I heard that there are versions with and without GPU fans.... |
Only 1.0's had a gpu fan. Oh and just to be picky... its an 80mm fan in the back.
This post has been edited by terrorvis on Mar 24 2004, 05:10 PM
Post by: Exobex on March 24, 2004, 07:26:00 AM
| QUOTE (Troed @ Mar 23 2004, 07:03 PM) | ||
Exobex: Your timing is WAY off on v1.4 - there were actually machines in Brazil with the Focus chip half a year before they were spotted in Europe .. ! Team X-ecuter did no work at all on v1.4, they were totally asleep through that time. I take the credit for analyzing the difference and the need for a modbios made from the new kernel on that actually .. EvoX did the actual bios-patching work, and (sorry, forgot his name) someone in Asia worked out what differed a v1.5 from a v1.4. Team X-ecuter had had v1.5-boards since months and had done nothing. |
Ah, I didn't know about those early ones. Looks like Focus chips were gradually phased in, either that or a batch was shipped out to see if they worked properly, before switching over to Focus-equipped boxes full time.
If that's the case, hopefully itll be a while before the XLB boxes become widespread.
Credit where credit's due then, Troed. Well done.
Post by: Prulleman on March 24, 2004, 09:51:00 AM
| QUOTE (terrorvis @ Mar 24 2004, 05:09 PM) | ||
Only 1.0's had a gpu fan. Oh and just to be picky... its an 80mm fan in the back. |
Why do you have to cut the corners of a 80 mm fan when you want to install a 80 instead of the original one??
If the original one is also a 80 mm why are there tutorials "how to mod a 80 mm fan into place"
Post by: Exobex on March 24, 2004, 10:08:00 AM
| QUOTE (Prulleman @ Mar 24 2004, 04:51 PM) | ||||
Why do you have to cut the corners of a 80 mm fan when you want to install a 80 instead of the original one?? If the original one is also a 80 mm why are there tutorials "how to mod a 80 mm fan into place" |
Because it's not a standard 80mm fan.
The corner mountings of an Xbox fan are non-standard. You've got clips and things where you should have screw holes.
Post by: DaveHShapiro on March 24, 2004, 09:47:00 PM
Whenever they sell in the USA that is.
Post by: terrorvis on March 25, 2004, 12:34:00 AM
| QUOTE (DaveHShapiro @ Mar 25 2004, 05:47 AM) |
| I'm gonna buy it and put my xbox inside that case then sell my the "new" xbox with the old case.. TADA modded crystal xbox. |
Thats what i intend to do tomorrow, when the crystal is released in the UK.
Oh and thanks Exobex for backing me up! Probably going to replace it whatever the fan is. A nice blue or green lit one should look nice in the clear case.
Post by: sabresword on March 25, 2004, 12:42:00 AM
It's modded with a Aladdin advance + chip.
One interesting thing happened during modding. the original C:-drive had to be copied to the new disk for the box to work after the installation.
Anyone know why?
Post by: Troed on March 25, 2004, 05:00:00 AM
| QUOTE (sabresword @ Mar 25 2004, 07:42 AM) |
| the original C:-drive had to be copied to the new disk for the box to work after the installation. Anyone know why? |
As has been written two times in this thread already, new kernels require new dashboards.
Is reading before posting that difficult?
Post by: alsybub on March 25, 2004, 02:19:00 PM
Post by: lenballs on March 25, 2004, 11:38:00 PM
Manufacture date: 2004-01-28
Serial: 5003xxx 40505.
No dramas here, standard ground and voltage points available on LPC, although the top of the mobo had a green lacquer over most VIA points as others have noticed on their crystal boxes.
As I'm getting sick of telling my customers with Halo green boxes I may not be able to modify them because of the supposed new XLB encoder, can we have a confirmation as to the existence of the v1.6?
Bourke, stop being a typical aussie and share some more.
Post by: sabresword on March 26, 2004, 02:12:00 AM
| QUOTE (Troed @ Mar 25 2004, 01:00 PM) | ||
As has been written two times in this thread already, new kernels require new dashboards. Is reading before posting that difficult? |
Nope. And when I'm at it, nice welcome to a newbie at the forums
Post by: lookformeb on March 26, 2004, 04:17:00 AM
| QUOTE (Troed @ Mar 25 2004, 07:00 AM) | ||
As has been written two times in this thread already, new kernels require new dashboards. Is reading before posting that difficult? |
Interesting...
Last I knew, all dashboards could be used with every different kernel version...
This post has been edited by lookformeb on Mar 26 2004, 12:18 PM
Post by: terrorvis on March 26, 2004, 08:45:00 AM
Built: 31/1/2004 (i'm british thats the way it should be:-p )
Kernel 5713
Graphics Encoder: Focus
DVD: Phillips VAD6035/21
HDD: WD 8 gig (tight b*****ds)
Its a 1.4
It does have this SUNON fan too, and although I agree it's a bit louder than others, its not bad. Still going to get a blue lit one though and go at it with a hack saw!
The biggest problem... The man in the shop made me walk through town with it in a playstaion bag. I was not happy!
Right now i am off to mod the bugger, question is do I homebrew or Tsop? hmm....
This post has been edited by terrorvis on Mar 26 2004, 04:52 PM
Post by: heinrich on March 26, 2004, 09:54:00 PM
| QUOTE (lookformeb @ Mar 26 2004, 07:17 AM) | ||||
Interesting... Last I knew, all dashboards could be used with every different kernel version... |
http://forums.xbox-s...opic=193461&hl=
Just one thread
Post by: Troed on March 27, 2004, 03:13:00 AM
I'd still like to see pictures of the v1.6 motherboard ...
Post by: thecheekymonkey on March 27, 2004, 03:20:00 AM
focus vodeo chip
phillips drives
seagate 10 giger hdds
winbond flashs
thats in all six,
couple of other bits that people have asked me about
the dvd rom tray is black
the joypad ports are black (inside)
the sys fan is standard black
may be useful to peeps
Post by: Zobbster on March 27, 2004, 08:57:00 AM
)I'd tried everything to get this baby to boot into evox. EVERYTHING. Could I do it? no.
The chip was installed proper like, the bios shows up, and then... it kicked into the MS dash. Even after slayers disk has done its thing.
(btw, I installed slayers on the original HD (I did make a backup before-hand) and that manages to boot in ok. I just kept asking myself what exactly was I doing wrong?)
SO: I went back and made a copy of the old HD (as has apparently been mentioned a couple of times in this thread) using: http://www.xbox-scen...dd-install2.php
Still nothing. Infact, all I got was error 13 on the new drive. :| Even after using slayer's disk again.
I told my mate his xbox would be up and running last night, and now I've (still) got a stinking headache and my l33tness is looking thinner than ever before. Still better late than never
Anyhow, cut a long story short, I used the bootable CD I'd made using the tutorial, and with a bit of fore-though on my part, had already set a fixed IP - which allowed me to ftp in via my computer and manually move the contents of the (backed up) C drive.
Ta daa.... one working modded crystal xbox. Now to upload 46 gigs worth of games.. heh...
Bastard thing
NEVER LET THE MACHINES WIN - there is always a way.
Post by: CybBlade on March 27, 2004, 05:16:00 PM
Post by: shyboy on March 28, 2004, 04:25:00 AM
A mate of mine is having the same problem. He installed the Xcuter Bios and is getting error 13. When the bios is off, it goes into MS dash.
he has a bootable slayer cd, so would really appreciate a step by step on how to get it working.
Thanks mate,
SHyBoy
Post by: Troed on March 28, 2004, 04:42:00 AM
Really.
The newest kernel does not allow old dashbards. That's it. Now let's get back to the rumours about an XLB videochip - can bourke please supply us with photos?
Post by: alsybub on March 28, 2004, 02:20:00 PM
The three i have had have the following:
Philips Drive
Focus video encoder
seagate 10gb hdds
winbond flash
Post by: grimlock on March 31, 2004, 08:01:00 AM
I'd appreciate some feedback. Thanks.
Post by: KYXX on March 31, 2004, 04:39:00 PM
Manufacturing date 2004 - 01 - 30
serial No. 3xxxxetcxxxx40505
havent opened the thing yet.
seems to be a philips drive.
anyone know what version this is? i'm a newbie to modding.
Post by: grimlock on March 31, 2004, 06:08:00 PM
Answering to myself, for anyone interested:
My xbox is v1.4 with the following:
mfg date: 31-01-2004
s/n: 2NNNNNN YWW05
HDD is the white 10 Gb Seagate
DVD is the evil Philips 6035.
As I mentioned before, BIOS is the new 5713.
KYXX: My guess is yours is a v1.4 also. However, different production lines (2 vs 3) could potentially produce major configuration variations.
I would greatly appreciate if someone provided some pointers for a recommended course of action. Should I install a mod-chip or TSOP flash (is that possible with the new BIOS?) Also, any info on the DVD drive, which is not supposed to read DVD-Rs? I checked out the appropriate forum, but -no offence it was ambiguous at best.
Thanks
Post by: alien2108 on April 01, 2004, 03:56:00 AM
. Ofcourse if you don't have new v1.6 mobo .
Post by: russader on April 01, 2004, 01:55:00 PM
Team Xecuter sent an NFO file with their last bios saying it will be the last made for the X2 chips.
Becuase of the big deal they made about the bios being "The Last". does this mean that the X2 chips will not be compatible with the X3 bios's similar to the SmatXX chips private OS.
Basically: will we all need to upgrade our chips when the X3 comes out in order to play Halo 2 backups since it will probibly need a new bios knowing M$?
Post by: Exobex on April 02, 2004, 03:38:00 AM
| QUOTE (russader @ Apr 1 2004, 10:55 PM) |
| Team Xecuter sent an NFO file with their last bios saying it will be the last made for the X2 chips. |
They said that about 4980 as well.
Post by: A.Z.BEST on April 05, 2004, 02:08:00 AM
. I can't hear any sound when I am playing Halo with my brother . The Crystals are really loudy, so watch for them. But the joypads are... mmm... tasties .
Post by: renegade1488 on April 07, 2004, 05:07:00 AM
BTW, serial is 4073xxx 40805 and Manufacturing date is 14/2/04, and I got it from Toys R Us in Derby (in England)
Post by: Exobex on April 07, 2004, 05:44:00 AM
| QUOTE (renegade1488 @ Apr 7 2004, 11:07 AM) |
| hey guys, I just got my crystal XBOX yesterday and I saw the manufacture date and it looked fairly new, so I thought "this'd better not be a 1.6". Now I had a look at which bios I have and it seems to be the same as bourke's (K:1.00.5713.1). Now I would open her up, but I don't have the right screwdrivers yet, so I have a feeling mine might be a 1.6, but I'm not sure, as I'm a bit of a newb when it comes to this. So I'm asking you guys, is mine a 1.6, or do I have to open it up first? BTW, serial is 4073xxx 40805 and Manufacturing date is 14/2/04, and I got it from Toys R Us in Derby (in England) |
I've come across 4 Crystal Xboxes so far, but they were 40605 (a fortnight older). I don't think any 1.6s have surfaced over here yet.
This post has been edited by Exobex on Apr 12 2004, 11:49 AM
Post by: renegade1488 on April 07, 2004, 07:03:00 AM
This post has been edited by renegade1488 on Apr 7 2004, 05:27 PM
Post by: renegade1488 on April 07, 2004, 10:10:00 AM
Upon opening up my brand new box (being the first time I've ever even opened up a console) I was relieved to find a Focus chip, but I do still have the same bios as bourke it would seem
Post by: KDLondon on April 08, 2004, 06:24:00 AM
Not done this yet, and I'll advise what I have inside when I've opened it up, but there's no gotcha's I should know about now / for the future with this box and chip is there?
I'll be able to upgrade to a 160 / 200 + hard drive I presume, the old 137GB limit now not a factor?
I have a Netgear Wireless Router, I'm guessing I'll need a Wireless Ethernet Bridge to wirelessly network everything together? Actually, thats probably not for this thread...
Thanks for your help.
Post by: Exobex on April 08, 2004, 10:33:00 AM
| QUOTE (KDLondon @ Apr 8 2004, 12:24 PM) |
| I'll be able to upgrade to a 160 / 200 + hard drive I presume, the old 137GB limit now not a factor? |
You'll be fine as long as you use a BIOS that has the LBA48 patch.
Run EvoX M7 EjectFix through XBtool and you'll be fine. Alternatively you can use X2 4983.06 (for a really big F) or 4983.67 (for a big F and a big G), assuming that it's not riddled with bugs this time.
Post by: grimlock on April 09, 2004, 08:35:00 AM
As long as the network connection is concerned, you could always move the router near the xbox and wire it :). Seriously now, the Ethernet bridge is all you need, but you can also find some specifically made for the xbox, which cost around the same and are a bit nicer to look at... Some even connect in one of the controller ports instead of the RJ-45.
Let us know when you reveal the innards of your box.
Post by: photoman on April 09, 2004, 02:13:00 PM
I'm putting a Xenium in it now, will let you more details if there are any.
EDIT:**** Damn Philips won't read cd-r. thats a pisser. Oh well, gonna swap my Sammy into it I guess.
Other strange problem, I can't get my Xenium to boot into the OS. Gonna have to figure that one out. SOLVED
This post has been edited by photoman on Apr 10 2004, 02:17 AM
Post by: grimlock on April 09, 2004, 04:37:00 PM
Post by: photoman on April 09, 2004, 07:18:00 PM
MFG: 2004 - 02 - 03
SERIAL#: 3---906 40605
I can get pics tomorrow sometime if you like.
I put the Philip0s into my old Xbox and it reads DVD-r media just fine.
This post has been edited by photoman on Apr 10 2004, 06:27 PM
Post by: aTraXioN2 on April 11, 2004, 12:39:00 AM
Bought: Holland
Mine manf. date is: 2004-02-04
I have a philips drive too and mine's read al cd'rs
I don't what is in it all because I didnt yet open it.
Does someone knows what is al inside my xbox, because I am still waiting for my chip don't want it open it and w8 untill my chip.
Post by: photoman on April 11, 2004, 06:11:00 AM
| QUOTE (aTraXioN2 @ Apr 11 2004, 07:39 AM) |
| Well Photoman i have a crystal xbox Bought: Holland Mine manf. date is: 2004-02-04 I have a philips drive too and mine's read al cd'rs I don't what is in it all because I didnt yet open it. Does someone knows what is al inside my xbox, because I am still waiting for my chip don't want it open it and w8 untill my chip. |
It is probably a 1.4 like all the rest have been. Glad to hear your Phillips reads cd-rs. I was reading a Pinned topic yesterday where people have had mixed results with the new Phillips. Some read cd-r some don't some won't read dvd-r while others will. and some other won't read anything but official discs.
If you are going to chip it, you may as well open it now, so that you can become familiar with the insides.
Post by: grimlock on April 11, 2004, 07:16:00 AM
If you decide to open it, pls provide some info on HDD and fan. Since mine has a 10 Gb Seagate and a Sunon fan and Photoman's has an 8Gb WD and a Nidec, I'm kinda curious what yours has. (I remind you that mine is a 30/01/2004 box).
Actually, you can probably id the fan from the outside.
Post by: crazymaniac on April 11, 2004, 07:33:00 AM
MFG date: 5/2/2004. Bought in Holland yesterday.
Post by: photoman on April 11, 2004, 09:50:00 AM
IF I had realized they were that much quieter I would have bought a replacement long ago.
Post by: Exobex on April 12, 2004, 04:54:00 AM
| QUOTE (grimlock @ Apr 9 2004, 02:35 PM) |
| KDLondon, the week your box was manufactured seems a bit risky, since Exobex said he's seen some 1.6 from then. I am really beginning to think however, that 1.6s are extremely rare and almost all Crystals are 1.4s with Focus. |
I've just edited my earlier post for clarity.
I'd come across four CRYSTAL Xboxes, not four 1.6's!
Thankfully I haven't come across any of the 1.6 boards yet. II say thankfully, because I've been doing these machines pretty much on autopilot, and keep forgetting to check what encoder they have!
Post by: photoman on April 12, 2004, 07:46:00 PM
Goofy a$$ quirk. Anyways take this as you will. Maybe I got hurried and did something wrong, I don't know. I have modded a few Xboxes before, so... crazy. All I can say.
Post by: mac4drew on April 12, 2004, 10:37:00 PM
| QUOTE (bourke @ Mar 3 2004, 12:22 PM) |
| I have just opened my spanking new green Crystal Limited Edition Xbox to discover neither a Connexant nor a Focus video chip :-( Instead I am faced with an 'XLB' logo that has me in tears... How long do you think it will be before the Evolution-X crew release the 'M8' bios? |
OK I have a question about exactly which XBox you have because what you have said names two separate XBoxes... there is the
European Limited Crystal Edition which is clear white and the
XBox special Halo edition which is clear green.
I think everyone on this thread believes you are talking about the European Limited Crystal Edition when you are actually talking about the Halo Special edition
I just purchased the special Halo edition for my second XBox (the green one), so I'm wondering exactly which one you have, and if anyone has any reports on version numbers for the Halo edition.
Post by: Prulleman on April 13, 2004, 10:22:00 AM
and about readign CD-r with the new philips drive..... the first thing i tried was a audio CD-r to check if it would read it, but i heard that data cd's are very different. Anyway I'll see it soon, got my chip now so I'll let you all know when i got my box up and running again
Post by: ryb2001 on April 13, 2004, 01:19:00 PM
Sunon Fan
Seagate Drive 10.2gbs
Philips DVD
Post by: kakarot on April 13, 2004, 01:29:00 PM
so i tried a few different audio cdr manufacturers,
out of the 11 a tried only three worked so was no good to me and returned the crystal xbox and got a standard black of ma brother with samsung drive,
jus thought i let u know that the phillips drive aint as good as ppl are saying
Post by: renegade1488 on April 13, 2004, 01:07:00 PM
)Focus chip
The fan that isn't a SUNON (forgot the name
)Post by: Exobex on April 15, 2004, 09:38:00 AM
| QUOTE (kakarot @ Apr 13 2004, 07:29 PM) |
| i got a crystal xbox about 3 week ago didnt chek the manufacturer details i wanted a samsung drive but it did not hav, this was phillips, so i tried a few different audio cdr manufacturers, out of the 11 a tried only three worked so was no good to me and returned the crystal xbox and got a standard black of ma brother with samsung drive, jus thought i let u know that the phillips drive aint as good as ppl are saying |
Who's been saying that the Philips drive is good? It's shite, only not as shite as the Thomson TGM600.
You could've just swapped drives with your brother, and kept the crystal box.
Post by: triggernum5 on April 15, 2004, 03:52:00 PM
The older one never read a disk other than an original DVD
Post by: Prulleman on April 15, 2004, 11:39:00 PM
Post by: KDLondon on April 16, 2004, 08:26:00 AM
I've got a SUNON fan, a Philips drive and a Western Digital hard drive. Not sure how large.
So I guess I'm 1.4'd up...
Post by: Exobex on April 16, 2004, 08:38:00 AM
| QUOTE (KDLondon @ Apr 16 2004, 02:26 PM) |
| OK finally got round to opening it up - I've been away! I've got a SUNON fan, a Philips drive and a Western Digital hard drive. Not sure how large. So I guess I'm 1.4'd up... |
Western Digital 8GB.
Post by: ReZidue on June 28, 2004, 04:38:00 AM
Serial/Date
2004-02-15
300xxxx 40805
BIOS
K 1.00.5713.01
D 1.00.5659.03
Philips DVD VAD6035/21 - built Jan 04, must be the latest dvd drive, no?
Reads = all TDK CD-Rs I have (7 diff types), Emtek
did not read = Verbatim, Kodak, Datastream, Imation and a few el cheapo clear ones.
pretty good, the dvd drive read 90% of my audio cd collection, bar some randoms :rolleyes:
WD Protege 8GB WD80EB-28CGH2 - built 22 jan 04, slightly slower then the samsungs?
Focus Video chipset or whatever
NOISY ASS SUNON fan. christ its loud :o
from the info, plus its got a heatsink and a double lined power connector plug thing, I believe its either a v1.4 or 1.5, but i dont have/could work a multimedia to save me own life.
im guessing i have same as everyone so far 1.4
cheers
Mike
Post by: intekcomp on June 28, 2004, 08:38:00 AM
Has there been any sightings of the alleged 1.6 Euro Crystal in australia, i want to buy one because of the 1.4 but if it has a 1.6 in it then i'm not gonna bother.
This post has been edited by intekcomp on Jun 28 2004, 03:41 PM
Post by: iNfErNaL666 on June 28, 2004, 07:46:00 AM
Post by: spacefrog on June 28, 2004, 10:51:00 AM
I went out on the weekend and picked up 6 xboxes that were 1.4/1.5. 2 halo's and 4 crystals.
Post by: ReZidue on June 28, 2004, 09:30:00 PM
if you happen to be in perth, megamart have all 1.4's on sale for $270 but u gotta be quick
Post by: intekcomp on June 28, 2004, 09:24:00 PM
Post by: intekcomp on June 30, 2004, 11:34:00 PM
Post by: xb-mutant on July 03, 2004, 08:49:00 PM
Post by: xb-mutant on July 07, 2004, 06:04:00 AM
and im sure he wasn't talking heresey from a forum, we'll see em' soon unfortunatley. but look on the bright side. by the time there out there we should have the full story Theres no reason for a hoax its just dumb. even m$ has nothing to gain but less sales maybe. *ahahem game cube anyone? LMAO
If there was no such thing as a 1.6 i wont be complaining anyway!
we will see how big of a "grinch" gates can be, cheap a$$ bubble gum adheasive! damn gpu fan!, ultra budget sunnon fan! temperamental Phillips drive! lets hope i don't strike out when i open my crystal box. I allready put lotsa werk in shutting up my 1.0 and its still a little noisy (if u ask me)
Are thermal take fans normally noisy? maybe i should try it ouside the box...
anyhow not to get off topic....
Thankya again