Post by: BenJeremy on July 05, 2003, 02:30:00 PM
Other features I consider important to add:
I'd like to finalize this list. Please continue making requests in the Request thread, but here, list those features you consider most important.
I'm only one person.... I hope to bring a couple more people into the effort to wrap up MXM to a 1.0 'official' release.
What happens then? My involvement will shift into low gear. Hopefully, by that time, I will have several people willing to take over and continue enhancements, but ideally, MXM will deliver all that a dashboard actually needs to do, barring a few minor things.
I have a lot of other things I'd like to get to working on.... incuding a wrap up of X-Marbles (music, sound, network play), and a decent framework for Xbox games)
DONE, or RESOLVED:
This post has been edited by BenJeremy: Oct 15 2003, 06:50 PM
Post by: uziq on July 05, 2003, 02:44:00 PM
These would be an added bonus:
This post has been edited by uziq: Jul 5 2003, 09:45 PM
Post by: jlm5151 on July 05, 2003, 02:49:00 PM
Screen Calibration
File Manager
Bios Flashing
Drive Partitioning
"Safe Mode" Operation
Post by: Dunny on July 05, 2003, 02:54:00 PM
Post by: oswald on July 05, 2003, 03:13:00 PM
*# File explorer/management
# BIOS flashing (Already planned on)
*# FTP support for leechftp, Xfer and XBE renamer
*# DVD-R entries or inserted games will be able to be installed to the HD (Game ripper - being worked on)
*# Games on the HD will have an 'uninstall' option available (preferences to disable, though).
*# Save Game Manager
*# Directly handle downloading save games from xboxsaves.com.
# Screen Calibration - Great idea IMO
*# Audio Cd Ripping
# "Safe Mode" operation
# POP3 Notification (perhaps e-mail download)
Features I consider unimportant
# FTP Client, instead of just server
# RSS Newsfeeds assignable as strings. Headlines would appear in a cycling string. (Implimented for 0.9n, still needs polish)
(^I actually really dig this one, but I think it's superflous for a dash)
# Scroll through list
# Skinnable system menus (probably will not happen)
# General Transparency level
# Random skin based on XML file (list).
# Partition formatting
# Software BIOS selection for Chameleon and X2s (but I can see why it is important)
# Limited form of web browsing
# IM client of sorts
# 3-D elements for skinners
Features I haven't seen mentioned yet
#Soundtrack selection directly from System menu when global is set
#emulator rom menu integration (what a headache when the rom directories have 4000 roms in them)
I've left out the ones that are already implemented in a WIP release.
This post has been edited by oswald: Jul 5 2003, 10:14 PM
Post by: StrongBad on July 05, 2003, 06:23:00 PM
| QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Jul 5 2003, 05:19 PM) |
| What happens then? My involvement will shift into low gear. Hopefully, by that time, I will have several people willing to take over and continue enhancements, but ideally, MXM will deliver all that a dashboard actually needs to do, barring a few minor things. |
The thought of your departure, BJ, sheds a tear to my eye. *sniff*
Another 6 months or so with you in cockpit?
Post by: BenJeremy on July 05, 2003, 06:28:00 PM
| QUOTE (StrongBad @ Jul 5 2003, 10:23 PM) | ||
The thought of your departure, BJ, sheds a tear to my eye. *sniff* Another 6 months or so with you in cockpit? |
Well, I'd be around... just hopefully not spending every waking minute on this thing
I could also spend a bit of time making skins and scripts....
Post by: TCB on July 06, 2003, 01:24:00 AM
* Alpha sorting (Implimented for 0.9n)
* BIOS flashing (Already planned on)
* FTP support for leechftp, Xfer and XBE renamer
* Skin switching (Implimented for 0.9n)
* FTP Client, instead of just server
* DVD-R entries or inserted games will be able to be installed to the HD (Game ripper - being worked on)
* Partition formatting
* Save Game Manager
* File explorer/management
* Screen Calibration - Great idea IMO
* Scroll through list (from z back to a)
* Auto-add sorting (Implimented for 0.9n)
Things I don't really care about (or don't know what they mean):
* General Transparency level
* Master switch for sounds/music (Implimented for 0.9n)
* Other features I consider important to add:
* Audio Cd Ripping
* "Safe Mode" operation
* Software BIOS selection for Chameleon and X2s
* Limited form of web browsing
* POP3 Notification (perhaps e-mail download)
* IM client of sorts
* 3-D elements for skinners
But remember: even when no other version of MXM would appear, I'm still damn happy with this amazing dashboard
Post by: mrRobinson on July 06, 2003, 05:15:00 PM
(cause i err on the side of safety but i'm dyin to use those features):
* Alpha sorting (Implimented for 0.9n)
* BIOS flashing (Already planned on)
* Skin switching (Implimented for 0.9n)
* FTP Client, instead of just server
* File explorer/management
* Screen Calibration - Great idea IMO Awesome idea
* Auto-add sorting (Implimented for 0.9n)
With those things added to what you currently have I see myself running MXM for a long time to come...
Post by: west17m on July 06, 2003, 05:38:00 PM
Should be one of the more easy things to implement.
Great job so far. We all appreciate it.
Post by: slidellsimba2 on July 06, 2003, 05:40:00 PM
when this can do half of what you intend on having it do it will already be the most widely used dash
Post by: sprkthead2 on July 08, 2003, 03:42:00 PM
Post by: splict on July 08, 2003, 10:09:00 PM
Post by: koldfuzion on July 08, 2003, 10:46:00 PM
+ in-client upgrades would be nice. I would assume that would be a hosting issue though.
Post by: BenJeremy on July 09, 2003, 02:39:00 AM
| QUOTE (koldfuzion @ Jul 9 2003, 01:35 AM) |
| besides those in the works and those you intend to include + in-client upgrades would be nice. I would assume that would be a hosting issue though. |
Oh yeah.... I have been working on something for that.
Post by: BenJeremy on July 09, 2003, 02:41:00 AM
| QUOTE (splict @ Jul 9 2003, 12:58 AM) |
| I think that although MXM does a bunch of other great things, what draws a lot of people is the great skinning options. So, personally the feature I'm looking forward to the most is 3d skinning. I've already had many ideas I'd like to try out with this. |
Yes, I'm looking forward to implimenting this myself.... it's one reason I want to finalize the features... so when MXM is "Feature Complete" on the non-skinning side, I can play around with some real cool things.
I also plan on tying things in with BASIC, which should allow some interactivity.
Post by: BenJeremy on July 09, 2003, 09:06:00 AM
| QUOTE (Izrun @ Jul 9 2003, 01:02 PM) |
| So no HDTV support, or at least regular widescreen support? Ah well, maybe somone can add it after 1.0... -Izrun |
Oh.... I'll try and squeeze that in.
There are skinning enhancements I didn't mention that will make their way in before 1.0 - I just want to get the 'functional' end defined so I can work towards wrapping that up and then work on fixing and optimizing.
Post by: BenJeremy on July 09, 2003, 04:10:00 PM
| QUOTE (splict @ Jul 9 2003, 07:53 PM) | ||
Yeah it will definately be nice to get the features done and be able to move on to more flashy things - .9n sounds like its got most all of the features I've been looking forward to.  I was wondering if any of these ideas of yours (if implemented) would allow things like displaying a different number of 2d/3d elements depending on things such as the number of submenus defined in the menu cache? Is this type of dynamic skin part of your ideas or am I just wishing for the stars? -splict |
People will probably surprise me by doing this and much more.
I'm going to enable all I can through "MXMBASIC"
Post by: BenJeremy on July 10, 2003, 02:19:00 PM
Post by: whoknew on July 11, 2003, 12:09:00 PM
And now that I'm done with that, I put in another vote for screen calibration and the 3d elements. What i think would be interesting though is a concept I call "MXMe" (Media X Messenger
) the main feature of which is that all online MXM users at that time can talk in a chat room or you can IM other boxes... the fact that you would be able to get help live in the program you actually need help in would be invaluable... e.x. someone doesnt know how to shutdown their box in MXM, they can access the chat system and find out from someone else who is running the program at the same time. I'm not demanding MXMe, i just thought at the moment it would be an amazing thing which would even further separate it from the other dashes. Don't do it if you don't want to... don't think for a second im demanding it. That would be really rude P.s.s: It's All About Choice is the most amazing thing i have ever seen... i mean all those video screens... and not only the code of that skin is amazing, it really shows off the power of MXM, with around 20 vids playin at the same time (or is it really only a highly elaborate illusion?)
Post by: BenJeremy on July 11, 2003, 01:29:00 PM
| QUOTE (whoknew @ Jul 11 2003, 04:09 PM) |
| Ben, let me just take a second to tell you that you are an amazing developer... you actually listen to people's suggestions, make your code open-source, AND on top of that all you are always willing to help someone with xbox releated issues... You are a great asset to the scene. And now that I'm done with that, I put in another vote for screen calibration and the 3d elements. What i think would be interesting though is a concept I call "MXMe" (Media X Messenger ) the main feature of which is that all online MXM users at that time can talk in a chat room or you can IM other boxes... the fact that you would be able to get help live in the program you actually need help in would be invaluable... e.x. someone doesnt know how to shutdown their box in MXM, they can access the chat system and find out from someone else who is running the program at the same time. I'm not demanding MXMe, i just thought at the moment it would be an amazing thing which would even further separate it from the other dashes. Don't do it if you don't want to... don't think for a second im demanding it. That would be really rude |
Well, I do think an IM client of sorts would be a handy thing (IMO, not to knock Team Ava, a better idea than IRC)
| QUOTE |
P.s.s: It's All About Choice is the most amazing thing i have ever seen... i mean all those video screens... and not only the code of that skin is amazing, it really shows off the power of MXM, with around 20 vids playin at the same time (or is it really only a highly elaborate illusion?) |
Well, it's closer to an elaborate illusion - there is a single background video, which combined all the videos playing, and then, of course, the thumbnail and preview video of the currently selected game. It's not really cheating as much as it is a logical means of displaying the videos.
The bandwidth to display all those videos would be a bit much... but MXM would certainly be willing to give it a shot....
...don't know if the Xbox itself could handle that much, though.Post by: BenJeremy on July 20, 2003, 06:05:00 PM
| QUOTE (HypeTelecon @ Jul 20 2003, 09:24 PM) |
| #Disk Partitioning I would personally like to see this feature in another dash board besides Evox, and that way with it in the source code, everyone would know how it was done. Just my $0.02 I think it would be nice to be able to do a full setup using the dash board you intend on using on your xbox permanently. P.S. Yeah Yeah Yeah, I know, "How often do you repartition your xbox?" Well, probably once, unless you are devloping and it crashes. But its just the matter of the fact. |
Yeah... I have an idea how to do it, but not surprisingly, the particular IOCtl command I think I need to use is completely, utterly undocumented.
Post by: skierdb526 on July 20, 2003, 06:21:00 PM
Post by: BenJeremy on July 21, 2003, 06:02:00 AM
What info should I also display?
I was thinking about more detailed info on the BIOS and modchip, more detailed game information, settings, specific config items (Like skin settings, for example), menu stats, that sort of thing.
Give me your ideas on what info screens you think would be nice to have and how to organize them in a manner that makes sense. It's fairly easy for me to do this, particularly with the existing info available (It's an internal layout).
Thanks!
Post by: blatchy on July 23, 2003, 04:42:00 AM
I'm also making my own skin based on my fave movie of the summer (bet you can't guess what it is lol). I just need to know if it's possible to rotate the display of my game screenshot (the box within my screen where I want to display is tilted a bit). Not a constant rotation but just to tilt it to the right a bit. Would I just use an XML position and rotate command?
Thanks!
Post by: BenJeremy on July 23, 2003, 05:17:00 AM
| QUOTE (blatchy @ Jul 23 2003, 08:42 AM) |
| Personally, I think the IM function and the browser would be a great addition, seeing (the newsgroup feature is great, btw). I love the notion that MediaXMenu extends my system beyond the gaming. Also, since I run my system through a projector, calibration would be another great feature. I love it, though: all my friends are still using Evox because they don't know any better and their jaws just drop when I show them mine. I haven;'t even added preview vids or help files yet either (btw, if anyone has prepackaged help files, I'd really love some). I'm also making my own skin based on my fave movie of the summer (bet you can't guess what it is lol). I just need to know if it's possible to rotate the display of my game screenshot (the box within my screen where I want to display is tilted a bit). Not a constant rotation but just to tilt it to the right a bit. Would I just use an XML position and rotate command? Thanks! |
Heh heh.... no "rotate" yet... but I am looking at adding 3-D capability, in which case doing that would be trivial.
Post by: swampy on July 23, 2003, 06:04:00 AM
Post by: boxorox on July 23, 2003, 06:12:00 AM
| QUOTE (swampy @ Jul 23 2003, 03:04 PM) |
| How about a last used time, total launch times, total time used, and maybe even averages per month for games/apps, update and store each when launched. Would be handy for figuring out what to get rid of, and would be cool over time to look at what is played the most. |
Total time used, as in hours of game play would be kuuul. I wouldn't be able to exagerate any more.
Post by: MissSplitch on July 24, 2003, 11:10:00 PM
And just so you don't think I want to relegate MXM to a subdir and leave the rest to EvoX, I wish EvoX kept its crap in an "EvoX" subdirectory too.
-Splitch
Post by: BenJeremy on July 25, 2003, 03:18:00 AM
| QUOTE (MissSplitch @ Jul 25 2003, 03:10 AM) |
| I just got into this thing today, so I don't know if this is yet implemented, but being interested in leaving EvoX on there as a "just in case," I think it would be good if MXM took everything but itself and its main configuration file from C:MXM, ie C:MXMSkinsWhateverSkinzorzEtc, instead of the root, as being an anal-retent such as myself, I don't like C: sitting around with a million little directories in it. And just so you don't think I want to relegate MXM to a subdir and leave the rest to EvoX, I wish EvoX kept its crap in an "EvoX" subdirectory too. -Splitch |
<SkinsPath> defines the path where all of the skins directories can be found. I use:
<SkinsPath>F:\MXMSkins</SkinsPath>
I may change the location of the cache_menu.xml file. Currently, only the cache_menu.xml, mxm.xml and mxm itself needs to be in that directory.
Post by: chilin_dude on July 28, 2003, 11:28:00 AM
| QUOTE (Tover @ Jul 28 2003, 08:27 PM) |
| BJ, Thanks for the great work. I have been using it as a dash and for multigame dvd-r's and it works flawless. Had one problem with a freeze, but it resolved on the next release. One question - You had mentioned earlier about splitting the release at v1.0 to a dvd-r and dash. Is that still a plan? Or is it possible to strip some things out (network, ftp, bios flash, etc..) of the source and recompile using 5588 xdk? for a more streamlined dvd-r multigame disc. Thanks |
Yup i agree this would be great as you don't need all that stuff for dvd's... If so i'm making a skin for it
Post by: BenJeremy on July 28, 2003, 11:30:00 AM
| QUOTE (Tover @ Jul 28 2003, 03:27 PM) |
| BJ, Thanks for the great work. I have been using it as a dash and for multigame dvd-r's and it works flawless. Had one problem with a freeze, but it resolved on the next release. One question - You had mentioned earlier about splitting the release at v1.0 to a dvd-r and dash. Is that still a plan? Or is it possible to strip some things out (network, ftp, bios flash, etc..) of the source and recompile using 5588 xdk? for a more streamlined dvd-r multigame disc. Thanks |
Yes, at some point, I will be there - it is part of "the plan"
You'll will be able to use either version, but I'll pare down the "Lite" version using conditional compiles to strip out a lot of the functionality strictly for DVD-R games launching.
Post by: chilin_dude on July 28, 2003, 01:13:00 PM
| QUOTE (johnzo @ Jul 28 2003, 10:10 PM) |
| What about in game reset, that would send alot of people to mxm. |
He's bettering that....A built in bios loader!
Post by: Crash N Burn on July 28, 2003, 02:36:00 PM
| QUOTE (chilin_dude @ Jul 28 2003, 02:13 PM) | ||
He's bettering that....A built in bios loader! |
WooHOO !!!!!!!!! This feature is going 2 rock . Especially us cheapmod users stuck 2 256k bios . Ohh Yeah
Post by: fezzman on August 01, 2003, 06:31:00 AM
Post by: SmoothE911 on August 03, 2003, 12:07:00 PM
Oh and BJ thanks for your support in the scene, your the best!
Post by: MasterG88 on August 12, 2003, 09:46:00 AM
Post by: Oatmeal on August 12, 2003, 11:47:00 AM
Post by: fezzman on August 15, 2003, 10:58:00 AM
Would it be possible for MXM to grab a thumbnail off of a disk (retail or backup) and display it in the preview window? This would be similiar to how it picks up the thumbs from games on the hdd.
Post by: ub312g0d on August 17, 2003, 01:50:00 PM
| QUOTE (Sirus5546 @ Aug 17 2003, 08:51 PM) |
| Maybe support for high quality video formats. Some WM8 files look choppy and low quality. |
the reason for that is the person who compressed it probably did a really bad job encoding it.(Assuming they set bandwidth way too high).
ANYWAY, the coooooolest skinnning feature I could ask for(short of 3d skinning) Would be have allow menu elements linked to a pivot point and have the ability to rotate around that point. That would open up tons of skinning abilities and would be a neccessity in 3d skinning however that may work.
And have you thought of what program you will support for the 3d when it actually comes out? I am pretty sure that pacman3d for xbox uses 3dsmax files so you could ask them how to implement that if you didnt know how.
Post by: irajames1176 on August 23, 2003, 05:02:00 AM
Post by: irajames1176 on August 23, 2003, 03:52:00 PM
Post by: .:**:. on August 24, 2003, 12:57:00 PM
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Post by: LiGhTfasT on September 01, 2003, 01:45:00 PM
Bo-Xlink just needs the skin support that mxm has and would look sweet... people could make online variations of there skins... nice green dash for offline then orange for online
Post by: SupaDawg on September 02, 2003, 10:39:00 PM
Post by: sandman2869 on September 08, 2003, 11:41:00 AM
Post by: thetruethugg on September 08, 2003, 12:04:00 PM
| QUOTE (jaysoccer7c @ Sep 1 2003, 04:04 PM) |
| BJ is that really u for ur avatar |
No, it's porn star Ron Jeremy.. <--- Not sarcasm
Post by: BenJeremy on September 09, 2003, 11:03:00 AM
| QUOTE (shinnyo @ Sep 9 2003, 12:53 PM) |
| What about a way to set the system clock manually? Right now I have to go into xboxwatch, and it's NTP-only. My internet at my house has been down since Friday so I haven't been able to get to an NTP server, and I've been wanting to play KOTOR but it keeps messing up because the time is set to the year 8029 or something. hehe. I ended up putting my old MS hard drive in and setting the time through the msdash, then putting my new hard drive in and it worked OK, but this is kind of a pain. An option in the mxm configuration menu to manually change the time would be sweet. And, on a side note, THANK YOU for coming up with the best dash ever. I'm loving this, man! |
If you have a Windows 2000 machine, you can set up Simple Internet Services on it and point your MXM's time sunchronization to it. That's what I do
Post by: BenJeremy on September 09, 2003, 01:27:00 PM
| QUOTE (sandman2869 @ Sep 9 2003, 04:36 PM) |
| Does this mean we won't be getting the ability to set the clock through MXM with this release? I was really looking forward to that feature maybe being implemented....Anyway, I know it's a lot to ask for and I sure couldn't do anything even close to what you have acclompished, many thanks for the great dashboard |
Well, that feature, manually setting the time, is waiting for the new UI.
Trust me, it's for the best these features wait for a "proper" UI - it will set a new bar for all dashboards, when done.
Post by: matr1x on September 10, 2003, 01:22:00 AM
The last one is a nice to have...
Post by: shinnyo on September 16, 2003, 02:51:00 PM
Just a thought. I don't have a clue how you would implement it. hehe.
Post by: firefucker on October 11, 2003, 05:56:00 PM
I'm working on a MxM-based Installer, and what would be a very nice option for that is a simple zip decompression
Post by: V1510N on October 11, 2003, 06:54:00 PM
- Limited form of web browsing
- POP3 Notification
- IM client of sorts
- 3-D elements for skinners
- Handle game saves from xboxsaves.com
- Game save manager
- transparancy
- File explorermanager
- Game uninstall
(FireFucker that is the best avatar EVER)
Post by: geniusalz on October 11, 2003, 07:05:00 PM
Post by: DeVante on October 12, 2003, 01:50:00 AM
There seems to be a surge of requests for unrealistic features right now (i.e. online gaming support, instant messengers, web browsers, the ability to play XBOX games through your work computer).
These silly requests are taking focus off of real and logical requests like disabling the Y button and even game-save management.
This is all my opinion of course, but I think most of us "hardcore" MXMers would agree that we don't want our serious and plausible requests being overshadowed by the sheer number of other, more wacky requests.
So if you make a request for a feature, please think if it's anywhere within the scope of MXM right now before you post it.
Post by: koldfuzion on October 12, 2003, 04:10:00 AM
- Game uninstall - Simple to do with action scripting and context menus- I might make this one myself in the next couple days.
Disabling the system menu is in the latest WIP.
You could also have two menu.xmls, once for your kids one for youself. use action script to swap the two files. (you would stilll need one password protected menu in the kids version to allow you to switch back to your version)
Post by: Lonny on October 12, 2003, 04:26:00 PM
Post by: johnnobts on October 12, 2003, 06:31:00 PM
Post by: BenJeremy on October 12, 2003, 07:36:00 PM
| QUOTE (johnnobts @ Oct 12 2003, 10:31 PM) |
| uhm, can you add support for the paullb48 bios, the newest mxm, xbmc, and avalaunch don't seem to support it... at least not with my 250gb hd running the x2 4977 bios |
It's a KNOWN issue. The X2 BIOS, modified for "Big F:" with the LBA48 patch does not work.
The M7 with this patch seems to work.
MXM also works fine with a "normal" F: and a G: filling the remainder.
Technically, I think this is a bug with the patch and how it's applied.
The problem is already fixed and tested for the next release, when it comes out (hopefully by the end of the week).
Post by: Budmiester on October 13, 2003, 12:48:00 AM
- Screen Calibrate (Will this mean we wont lose the edges like everything does?)
- Arrange games and other items by the amount of times played, or even by last played
- More SITE implementation, especially LAUNCH xbe
Post by: BenJeremy on October 15, 2003, 10:40:00 AM
Post by: MrSelfDestruct on October 21, 2003, 08:40:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| Audio Cd Ripping Software BIOS selection for Chameleon and X2s Limited form of web browsing POP3 Notification (perhaps e-mail download) IM client of sorts 3-D elements for skinners |
all of those are awesome. Man.....I cant wait
Post by: BenJeremy on October 21, 2003, 03:45:00 PM
| QUOTE (LiGhTfasT @ Oct 21 2003, 07:24 PM) |
| anychance you can itegrate boxlink into the dash? just started playing motogp2 again on it and forgot how much i've been missing... i know its only a click away to launch box-link but it would be nice if mxm displayed whats being played (i could tell mxm to tell me when a game of motogp is being played etc and chat to friends on my messenger list. please |
That would be desirable.... I just haven't had the time to approach the guys on it.