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Title: How Ripping Streaming Media Straight To Wmv
Post by: LiGhTfasT on July 02, 2003, 09:16:00 AM
sorry if you already know this but after seeing a few guide which seems very long winded for something one program can do and everyone trying to find the latest preview clips.. which they can get themselves in a few minutes

its called sdp, http://sdp.ppona.com/
download it here
http://sdp.ppona.com/zips/SDP2_0_0.zip

all u do is download sdp, find the asx file you want to save to your comp as a wmv
open sdp
click the open button, paste the asx files address
click no to saving the files location
click go, choose the wmv filename and type(wmv) and your done smile.gif

check out xbox.com for some streaming movies wink.gif
Title: How Ripping Streaming Media Straight To Wmv
Post by: KAC on July 02, 2003, 10:13:00 AM
Awesome!  I didn't know this existed.  Thanks for the tip.   beerchug.gif
Title: How Ripping Streaming Media Straight To Wmv
Post by: Cofi on July 02, 2003, 10:16:00 AM
Wow thanks. I was using Stream Down, but that was shareware. This one is free!!!
This method is a lot better than recording whats happening on the screen, this is without qualityloss. I hope xbox.com's vids are in WMV8 as well biggrin.gif
Title: How Ripping Streaming Media Straight To Wmv
Post by: simbot82 on July 02, 2003, 06:13:00 PM
NIce work, cheers for the info, i've been trying to work out how to get at that streaming video.
Title: How Ripping Streaming Media Straight To Wmv
Post by: V1510N on July 04, 2003, 12:17:00 AM
im having problems getting SDP to get the streaming videos from xbox.com. ur talking about the streaming videos found here right? http://www.xbox.com/xboxtv/default.htm
i right click and nowhere does it say save target or copy shortcut. how do i use these videos to work with SDP?
Title: How Ripping Streaming Media Straight To Wmv
Post by: Cofi on July 04, 2003, 12:56:00 AM
A little help...

Browse the game you want in the left menu... click on it once... wait...
click on 'Launch windoze media player'. A frame to the left opens.
Hurry and click on connecting and choose save to favorites...
click on stop. and close the wmp-frame...
now open your favorites in IE and rightclick on the link (usually contain the gamename and a xblogo). Choose properties and copy the url.
Paste it in SDP and download the asx-file..
Then follow the other guide...

If there's anything you don't understand of this, ask and I can explain better...
Title: How Ripping Streaming Media Straight To Wmv
Post by: V1510N on July 04, 2003, 01:39:00 AM
it only connects for about a half a sec. i dont have enouph time to click it.
Title: How Ripping Streaming Media Straight To Wmv
Post by: V1510N on July 04, 2003, 01:42:00 AM
and it has the busy cursor and nothing happens, ur talking about clicking the connecting on windoze media player at the bottom right, right?
Title: How Ripping Streaming Media Straight To Wmv
Post by: Cofi on July 04, 2003, 02:21:00 AM
Yeah, you can click on a little arrow there to bring up a menu. There's where you click on save to favorites...

Well I don't know what OS and version of WMP you have, but on my PC it opens a frame to the left. Just over the play/stop buttons are is the connecting.. with the arrow slightly above...

If it starts playing, try to stop it and then try to save it to favorites...
Title: How Ripping Streaming Media Straight To Wmv
Post by: LiGhTfasT on July 04, 2003, 03:14:00 AM
to get the filenames of the asx from xbox.com just start playing the video you want in the above link

right click the video when its playing in explorer and press properties... a box should pop up info about the stream, you want the location... should look like this http://www.xbox.com/media/games/tonyhawk3/...wk3-0001-hi.asx

now just use sdp, some of the new content i encoded with wmv9 not sure if these will need re-encoding for use with mxm
Title: How Ripping Streaming Media Straight To Wmv
Post by: DVantrease on July 06, 2003, 08:17:00 PM
I have grabbed a handful of videos, not sure if they are WMV8 or WMV9. First, how can I check? And second, if they are WMV9, is there a way to convert them to WMV8? Or is WMV9 support planned for a future MXM version?

I did a test disc with about 5 videos grabbed from xbox.com . They played fine, but when I was scrolling down the menu and the videos were changing titles, it locked up. I suspect maybe because they aren't WMV8 format, but that's just a guess.

This post has been edited by DVantrease: Jul 7 2003, 03:23 AM
Title: How Ripping Streaming Media Straight To Wmv
Post by: BenJeremy on July 06, 2003, 08:13:00 PM
QUOTE (DVantrease @ Jul 7 2003, 12:10 AM)
I have grabbed a handful of videos, not sure if they are WMV8 or WMV9. First, how can I check? And second, if they are WMV9, is there a way to convert them to WMV8? Or is WMV9 support planned for a future MXM version?

WMV9 probably won't happen... as it is, WMV "8" support was phased out of later XDKs, so the libs being used are no longer provided in newer XDKs.

You could try an app like AVICodec or G-Spot (See DVDRHELP.COM) to identify the codecs being used.
Title: How Ripping Streaming Media Straight To Wmv
Post by: Cofi on July 06, 2003, 11:45:00 PM
I use Windows Media Encoder, it's like an GUI for the dos-tools that you can find on some ftps. Pretty easy to set up framerate, bitrate, size and create profiles so you just have to choose the profile MXM 512 kbps... Piece of cake
Title: How Ripping Streaming Media Straight To Wmv
Post by: DVantrease on July 07, 2003, 10:09:00 AM
OK I got Windows Media 8 Encoder, and I need help on the parameters. How to I make the video size, say, 260x194? Doing this, plus removing the audio, should shrink the filesize alot. Cofi, where can I find the MXM 512 profile you mentioned?
Title: How Ripping Streaming Media Straight To Wmv
Post by: BenJeremy on July 07, 2003, 10:15:00 AM
QUOTE (DVantrease @ Jul 7 2003, 02:02 PM)
OK I got Windows Media 8 Encoder, and I need help on the parameters. How to I make the video size, say, 260x194? Doing this, plus removing the audio, should shrink the filesize alot. Cofi, where can I find the MXM 512 profile you mentioned?

Actually, if you go 260, just go to 256 instead.... it's far more efficient in video memory usage for MXM (that extra 4 rows DOUBLES the amount of RAM used in video memory)
Title: How Ripping Streaming Media Straight To Wmv
Post by: Cofi on July 07, 2003, 10:22:00 AM
QUOTE (DVantrease @ Jul 7 2003, 08:02 PM)
OK I got Windows Media 8 Encoder, and I need help on the parameters. How to I make the video size, say, 260x194? Doing this, plus removing the audio, should shrink the filesize alot. Cofi, where can I find the MXM 512 profile you mentioned?

Well I created that profile myself. Just setted fps and resolution to 320*240 and bitrate to 512 kbps. And then chose WMV8 as video-codec. and WMA9 as audio-codec.

Are you sure that you have the graphical user interface?
Title: How Ripping Streaming Media Straight To Wmv
Post by: DVantrease on July 07, 2003, 08:07:00 PM
BenJeremy, what would you say is the 'optimum' video resolution to re-encode at, or does it vary from skin to skin? I only mentioned 260x194 because awhile back when I was playing with MenuX, that was a suggested resolution for PNG files (in my .nfo docs), and it seemed to look good. Is there a suggested kbps?

Regarding audio, I saw in another thread that you don't recommend having NO audio. I was torn between including the audio, or just playing music. I saw several demo videos on ftp's that had no sound, so maybe it's actually a 'silent' audio track? If so, I'll need to learn how to do that.
Title: How Ripping Streaming Media Straight To Wmv
Post by: BenJeremy on July 07, 2003, 08:14:00 PM
QUOTE (DVantrease @ Jul 8 2003, 12:07 AM)
BenJeremy, what would you say is the 'optimum' video resolution to re-encode at, or does it vary from skin to skin? I only mentioned 260x194 because awhile back when I was playing with MenuX, that was a suggested resolution for PNG files (in my .nfo docs), and it seemed to look good.

Regarding audio, I saw in another thread that you don't recommend having NO audio. I was torn between including the audio, or just playing music. I saw several demo videos on ftp's that had no sound, so maybe it's actually a 'silent' audio track? If so, I'll need to learn how to do that.

Here's the deal... if you look at new M$ demo discs, they encode video and images at 1024x512... always in multiples of 256, since this seems to be special to the GPU and video memory organization ("Swizzled Graphics").

When I allocate a texture to display a 260x194 image, it ACTUALLY allocates a 512x256 chunk of memory. Reducing it by 4 lines changes that to 256x256, obviously, half as much video memory.

This is the ideal way of doing things because it increases available video memory, which is roughly managed by the system (and results in stuttering when it's overwhelmed).

As for audio, the next version will rectify this... I figured out how to fix it in the video player management code. In the 0.9n release, audio is not required.
Title: How Ripping Streaming Media Straight To Wmv
Post by: RadiatedAnt on July 08, 2003, 04:50:00 PM
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Title: How Ripping Streaming Media Straight To Wmv
Post by: RadiatedAnt on July 10, 2003, 09:15:00 AM
Thats a nice little tool also but then theres variety Im testing asfrecorder, Hinet recorder, and make asx to see wich one will give me the best quality
Title: How Ripping Streaming Media Straight To Wmv
Post by: SniperKilla on July 11, 2003, 03:16:00 PM
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Title: How Ripping Streaming Media Straight To Wmv
Post by: chilin_dude on July 12, 2003, 01:19:00 PM
laugh.gif Instead of doing that favourite stuff just right click in the video window and select properties then copy the link!  biggrin.gif
Title: How Ripping Streaming Media Straight To Wmv
Post by: Dalma on July 22, 2003, 01:38:00 PM
QUOTE (Cofi @ Jul 7 2003, 07:38 AM)
I use Windows Media Encoder, it's like an GUI for the dos-tools that you can find on some ftps. Pretty easy to set up framerate, bitrate, size and create profiles so you just have to choose the profile MXM 512 kbps... Piece of cake

Hey Cofi, can you help me out.

I am trying to encode the trailers from xbox.com to wm8 but somehow these gui programs don't work. I tried several of them already.

Title: How Ripping Streaming Media Straight To Wmv
Post by: mark_in_2k on August 27, 2003, 05:23:00 AM
Cofi, is there any way, using Windows Media Encoder, to remove the audio? Can't seem to select or create a profile that will allow you to do this.

Cheers
Title: How Ripping Streaming Media Straight To Wmv
Post by: myffonline on December 21, 2003, 03:05:00 PM
After I'm finished getting a wmv9 video with SDP I use a program called Stoik Video Converter to first re-encode the wmv9 to just normal avi, then I use Windows Media Encoder to convert from this avi to wmv8. There may be an easier way, but this way is fairly simple and works for me.

Stoik Video Converter