Post by: XanTium on November 05, 2009, 07:25:00 PM
(note ... option7 (don't know, stayed off LIVE) was added later on request, ~380 votes were in already)
Post by: iateshaggy on November 05, 2009, 07:52:00 PM
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Post by: Ericn84 on November 05, 2009, 08:37:00 PM
Post by: Puffer on November 05, 2009, 08:55:00 PM
Post by: MrBlonde on November 05, 2009, 09:52:00 PM
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Post by: sephiroth99 on November 05, 2009, 09:57:00 PM
QUOTE(Ericn84 @ Nov 6 2009, 04:37 AM) 
Only me and one other person dont have modified firmware?
now we are 3!
Post by: Bearhug on November 05, 2009, 10:19:00 PM
Ok here is the thing, there are very few differences between the people getting banned and not (I know as I've done the modding and supplied the backup equipment to a handful of people and have checked in with them on the status). In seems less people have been banned so far than have (it would be about 40% banned 60% not (This is only taking into account about 20 people that I personally know the setups etc of)).
No one that has never used a non-self created backup has yet been banned (So there is something in that for everyone whinging). Everyone that played pirated games before release were lucky enough to get banned.
I unfortunately chose to preview a game shortly before my retail copy arrived in the post and am thinking thats the culprit as it's the only difference between myself (who now has a nice polite xbox telling we I'm naughty when I attempt to sign into live) and several mates who have all other factors the same and are currently playing on live and having fun.
At least it came at a good time as there are some great console offers around at the moment.
It will be interesting to see if additonal bans are handed out over the coming weeks, so at this stage it still seems a little to early to speculate how the bans are being applied. (But it's really not a good idea to arr arr my maties if you want to continue using live, so support the delevopers that make the games you love and buy the original).
Post by: walterg74 on November 06, 2009, 06:58:00 AM
QUOTE(Ericn84 @ Nov 6 2009, 01:37 AM)
Only me and one other person dont have modified firmware?
So... what are you doing hanging out at xbox "scene" forums with unmodified firmware...?
Post by: Paitor on November 06, 2009, 07:24:00 AM
QUOTE(Puffer @ Nov 6 2009, 05:55 AM)
Needs a slot for "Refuse to log in to get banned". I have a Lite-On and I doubt I have been banned, but it is not worth losing my HDD to log in to see.
Yep, I havn't eaven dared to start my xbox
Post by: tripaschief on November 06, 2009, 07:25:00 AM
Danm it !!! Its plany valid True... you dont have to worry if you have modified firmware but play games on live with auto fix 3 abgx360gui, its PROVED !!! MODIFIED GAMES BAN FROM THE LIVE not the firmware hack... 'im safe for now only Auto fixed 3 games and some originals... and no unreleased games in my 1.51 Lite-on drive...
Post by: B-BALL on November 06, 2009, 01:11:00 PM
Post by: nastyn8 on November 06, 2009, 01:31:00 PM
QUOTE(B-BALL @ Nov 6 2009, 02:11 PM)
I have a mate that was banned from Xbox Live and people who saying you HDD is messed up after isnt true his is still working fine on other consoles just not the one that is banned i hope this helps some people out.
To clear up the HDD questions.....you will most likely lose all your games saves. You have to reformat on a nonbanned console and never use it on a banned console ever again. Once you make a game save on a banned console It will corrupt your profile and you will have to reformat again. Some have said as long as they didn't save anything after the ban they could transfer their game saves back after they reformatted.
Ex. Put all your important game saves on your comp. or a mem card and reformat your HDD on a non banned console, recover your gamertag, then transfer your saves back on the non banned console. It has been this way every time the ban hammer has hit.
Post by: gsharpshooter on November 06, 2009, 01:35:00 PM
Post by: DivinedSin on November 06, 2009, 03:25:00 PM
QUOTE(gsharpshooter @ Nov 6 2009, 12:35 PM) 
I don't have a modified firmware (wish I did though) but this is just so stupid MS banning consoles now makes the console paper weight. There are so many people on ebay probably getting ripped off getting banned consoles saying "this console is banned from xbox live". Why not just ban that one user with his gamertag from that one console rendering his gamertag useless only on that console but let everyone who isn't pirating use that console instead of making the entire console useless to everyone its such a waste of good technology....
There are several "kinds" of Xbox users, and they all have different kinds of gaming habits/preferences. For example, I care about my gamertag and my gamerscore, and getting my system swapped out isn't a problem for me; I have the resources to change out my console as many times as necessary. Thus, if they banned my gamertag, it would truly be a proper punishment for me. However, there are others where their gamertag is basically meaningless. I know people that use an exploit to get free Xbox Live by starting a new gamertag every month. So to them, gamertag banning would be meaningless and Microsoft would accomplish nothing by doing that to that person.
You do make a good point though, one that I have been contemplating since these bans have started up again. I communicate with a lot of people from the "scene" in my community and all of them are finding ways to get their consoles replaced. Wal-Marts, Best Buys, GameStops, Targets, etc. are all unknowingly taking back banned consoles. In the short term, this is awesome, we all get to keep playing our games, but these systems all eventually get back to Microsoft and, again, it's a two-pronged reaction:
One, Microsoft will get this influx of useless systems that they will either have to unban and redistribute, or if they keep to their word and never unban, rescrap the parts and do whatever they do to make that cost effective. My first impression of this was that Microsoft shot themselves in the foot by banning consoles because, as everyone knows, this community is incredibly resourceful, and now, as thanks for banning our systems, we send them back to you courtesy of Wally and Geoffrey Giraffe, and keep doing what you banned us for intially. Basically, you burdened us with inconvenience while we burdened you with incommensurate man-hours to ban us in the first place, to the retailers that unknowingly took our defunct systems, and to your already-busy-with-rroDs repair department for them to find out the only thing wrong with the system is that its banned.
This brings me to part two of that reaction, and that is how Microsoft will respond to this cost that they will be bearing, and the steps they will take to try and ensure it doesn't happen again. I say try because, to reiterate, the pirating community is resilient, and will always find a way, but I certainly don't want to see more robust and thorough warranty checks and new equipment to verify bans, etc. One reason I don't want to see it is because I used to work for a GameStop and trading in systems is not a well-oiled machine. There aren't any real rules or regulations to checking them and any extra steps make the whole process longer and more arduous for the employee and the customer. That's just one example but my main point is that this action/reaction inertia sways back and forth and one could make the argument that pirates pushed first, Microsoft banned, pirates push back, and so on and so forth. I'm sure someone will also say Microsoft pushed first for charging $60 a game and cite the RRoD fiasco and blah blah but if you focus on that part you're missing the point: Piracy is a cat & mouse game, but this whole console banning and the subsequent reactions to it add a new element, and that is that Microsoft may actually incur further costs by banning consoles that play pirated games, while piracy itself loses a lot of money originally.
It's obviously my opinion, but I'm a bit concerned about how Microsoft will respond to how ineffective their solutions to combat piracy really are, especially when they begin getting a rush of consoles and have to now spend money on that. Say what you want about Microsoft, but they are a sleeping giant. Then again, pirates aren't no pushovers, either.
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Post by: B-BALL on November 06, 2009, 04:03:00 PM
Post by: dcjoedog on November 06, 2009, 08:14:00 PM
Post by: gephorce on November 06, 2009, 11:20:00 PM
BenQ ix 1.61 (not spoofed)
played borderlands, tekken 6, Dragon Age, GTA4: episodes from liberty city -these games in order, last game i played was when i was notified of ban. I didn't play them early either.
Post by: Anarchy99 on November 07, 2009, 12:24:00 AM
one got banned 2 days ago
liteon 1.6 firmware
played leaked odst(he wasnt sure which group leaked it ),dragon age, cod mw 2, gta4ELC all pirated from various groups p2p, marvel, retail, origins, retail, spare
except for odst apparently all patched and/or scanned fine in abgx
another friend got banned today
liteon 1.6 firmware
he played all his own rips the most recent being cod5 and wolfenstien
apparently all patched and/or scanned fine in abgx
im not worried my hitachi with 1.51 still going strong
Post by: Spike64bit on November 07, 2009, 01:29:00 AM
QUOTE(olas @ Nov 7 2009, 02:10 AM)
just to let everyone know, that if your going to hack your xbox you should start from scratch and read all the information about everything that needs to be done in order to get a perfect system hack and play un-noticed on live. in order to do that you have to flash the system exactly how it says in Legit Tutorials. Next you need to buy HIGH QUALITY VERBATIM DL Discs FROM SINGAPORE ONLY!! i must stress on that point and i tell everyone i know with a hacked 360 that they must burn games onto VERBATIM DL FROM SINGAPORE. you can check for yourself on cdfreaks and see they have the lowest errors and they read the best and burn the best etc... cehck it out.
to end this reply i will say that i personally know 3 ppl whos consoles have just been banned today (Nov 6) and they all were using games burn with bad discs. they wernt verbatims and everyone else i know who plays with hacked systems uses verbatims and are all fine... so far. but as far as i can tell, its the discs causing the problems and microsoft can detect that there are errors when reading the disc and loading the disc when playing. not big enough errors to stop it from working but big enough for them to notice if watching your console. i was just in a party playing with 2 other hacked systrem and 1 got banned and he was useing bad discs. also known as a bad burn. sojust watch it and always use abgx. dont play wave 4 games yet its way to risky. but that is my opinion. so do what you want but my suggestion is buy good discs.
I have modded two of my friends boxes the last month, and mine has been modded for a year now, and we all burn our games on 2.4x burn speed with Verbatim DL dvds + abgx. None of us has been banned so far. Even played Forza 3 early. So bad disks may be the reason MS can detect modded boxes.
Post by: tarektaha on November 07, 2009, 04:31:00 AM
QUOTE(B-BALL @ Nov 6 2009, 10:11 PM)
I have a mate that was banned from Xbox Live and people who saying you HDD is messed up after isnt true his is still working fine on other consoles just not the one that is banned i hope this helps some people out.
My HDD was on 2 Consoles that got banned while my HD and GT was attached, i removed the HD immediately in both cases "Not Playing anymore on the banned" I move my HDD to a new console all my data are safe "save Files" all Profiles nothing is corrupted. The moment you start saving on the banned console this is where your data will be corrupted. Mainly Save files
Post by: knightsgamingrepair on November 07, 2009, 08:04:00 AM
Post by: dbdsneaky on November 07, 2009, 09:17:00 AM
QUOTE(olas @ Nov 7 2009, 03:10 AM)
you need to buy HIGH QUALITY VERBATIM DL Discs FROM SINGAPORE ONLY!! i must stress on that point and i tell everyone i know with a hacked 360 that they must burn games onto VERBATIM DL FROM SINGAPORE
In the politest way BULL **** m8
proven that they are good because they are expensive !! i think not 4x disks and x4 bad burns
i use Arita RITEK disks - 100% valid without errors and ive been using em for 2 . 5 years yet to bad !!
i use 1.6 Liteon and BenQ 1.61 = no ban
m8 = liteon 1.6 BANNED mid conversation about being banned go figure !!
a pattern emerging also is that all the older flashed consoles seem to be faring better hence less hitachi and sammy drives more liteon and benq that have been done in last few weeks
could be the updates we recieved that said we didnt have anything new "skyplayer" setups
QUOTE(tarektaha @ Nov 7 2009, 01:31 PM)
My HDD was on 2 Consoles that got banned while my HD and GT was attached, i removed the HD immediately in both cases "Not Playing anymore on the banned" I move my HDD to a new console all my data are safe "save Files" all Profiles nothing is corrupted. The moment you start saving on the banned console this is where your data will be corrupted. Mainly Save files
also heard of this your hdd id is also tagged along with your gamertag to aid in identifying new console with same gamertag / hdd combination.
quite an old post about changing the ket on hdd when changing out the chip that holds the info they used to ban your console their end. cant remember exact but was summat like the bios style chipset on the board and drive
Post by: ThePoo on November 07, 2009, 01:08:00 PM
I'm just kind of curious to find out if I have been banned or not. Always verified twice, thrice, quad times through abgx, and used verbatim discs at 2.4x; never played early, no hdd mods.
The only reason is that for 59.99$ a year for XBL, and the main reason for using XBL is to download game updates and a few XBLA games + GH/RB downloads, just seems pointless. Rarely do I play online, and if I do there is always XLink Kai, XBConnect, or my ps3.
In reality, M$ banning consoles won't stop people from pirating their software. Everybody will keep downloading them and burning them regardless. But I'm sure they will stand to make a fuck-lot of more cash because of a system ban and people going out to buy a system for X amount of money plus another live account for X amount of money.
Just my take, I don't play a lot, if any games multiplayer. None of my friends locally have a 360
Post by: DarkBlades on November 07, 2009, 03:19:00 PM
QUOTE(ThePoo @ Nov 7 2009, 12:08 PM)
I've got a Halo3 edition with a BenQ + 1.6 fw. Havent turned it on for about 3-4 days now because of the scare.
I got the first Elite Edition, Not sure what kind of drive. Im sure im running on 1.6 fw. I havent went online in awhile, I think about a week.
I recently played
MW2 (Not Online Yet)
Halo ODST(Checked, Varified, and Passed) Not Online Yet
Both Played with HDD, I played with my main account offline with ODST, and made 1 offline dummy account for MW2.
1.)Im also skeptical, and ify about going online, I dont wanna be banned. So im just gonna just wait and see what happens, im sure things will be alot clearer on Nov 10.
2.)
a.)One thing im afraid of, is turning on my 360 and just like that im banned. So before I go online, I will remove all information from my HDD that has to do with MW2, accounts, save data, and etc...
b.) Another thing im gonna do is what another reccomended me to do. Which is play a bunch of varified safe games in order to clear MW2 from the NANDchip.
Thats really all I can do..
Post by: ThePoo on November 07, 2009, 03:43:00 PM
QUOTE(ThePoo @ Nov 7 2009, 03:08 PM)
I've got a Halo3 edition with a BenQ + 1.6 fw. Havent turned it on for about 3-4 days now because of the scare.
As of 5:30pm I have not been banned after putting my console online and downloading a few videos from the video ... tube... thing... whatever..
Played a bit of Zombie Apocalypse demo and idled for a while without and dvd in the drive, and I was still online when I disconnected.
So.. I don't know. It may be a matter of time for me
Post by: olas on November 07, 2009, 03:57:00 PM
QUOTE
In the politest way BULL **** m8
proven that they are good because they are expensive !! i think not 4x disks and x4 bad burns
proven that they are good because they are expensive !! i think not 4x disks and x4 bad burns
ok well you are very lucky for having such good burns with ritek as they are junk and very cheap discs. maybe they have made them better now but i know that 2 years ago when i first flashed my xbox i did alot of research and verbatims arnt just called the best because of price lol. look it up for yourself. also if your getting games for free, why cheap out even more and get bad discs. pay the price of 1 game and get 20 discs. its worth it isnt it? if your console wasnt hacked. you would have bought that game that your about to burn, correct? its all in your own opinion and mine is that i swear by verbs. i swear by my pioneer DL burner. i use abgx and i burn slow and verify my burn afterwards. not all ppl take the time to do that. im not risking it because i play online everyday.
also just to add that the discs dont seem to be the problem for getting banned. im just saying that i prefer verbs.
today i found out that 2 more ppl i know have been banned. they were useing verbatim discs. so that rules that out. they both had hitachi drives but i am also on a hitachi drive and did not get banned yet. they have all played different games and the only game we have all played is borderlands. there are only 6 more ppl i know with hacked consoles and we have not been banned yet.
all have hitachi except 2 they have benq so we will see lol. i servived the last few ban waves but this time it seems like they have more then 1 hammer swinging
Post by: DarkBlades on November 07, 2009, 04:14:00 PM
QUOTE(ThePoo @ Nov 7 2009, 02:43 PM)
As of 5:30pm I have not been banned after putting my console online and downloading a few videos from the video ... tube... thing... whatever..
Played a bit of Zombie Apocalypse demo and idled for a while without and dvd in the drive, and I was still online when I disconnected.
So.. I don't know. It may be a matter of time for me
Like Stewie once said "Your my eyes Goose"
Have you played the MW2 offline w/ hard drive? (ON A DUMMY ACCOUNT)
Post by: ThePoo on November 07, 2009, 04:34:00 PM
QUOTE(DarkBlades @ Nov 7 2009, 06:14 PM)
Like Stewie once said "Your my eyes Goose"
Have you played the MW2 offline w/ hard drive? (ON A DUMMY ACCOUNT)
I haven't touched anything that has been 4th wave, like COD:MW2, Cars, Tekken 6, etc. I contemplated downloading activate.iso but thought it's just as easy to wait. I had also contemplated upgrading to 1.61 but after reading all of this, I have again decided to wait.
The last game that was in my drive has been Brutal Legend, and I have been playing that constantly for a week prior to all of this happening.
I downloaded Borderlands, but held off burning it because of people saying there were potential bands related to playing a bad rip despite abgx saying it was good.
I'm going to attempt to put in Fallout 3 later tonight and see what happens.
Post by: DarkBlades on November 07, 2009, 04:56:00 PM
QUOTE(ThePoo @ Nov 7 2009, 03:34 PM)
I haven't touched anything that has been 4th wave, like COD:MW2, Cars, Tekken 6, etc. I contemplated downloading activate.iso but thought it's just as easy to wait. I had also contemplated upgrading to 1.61 but after reading all of this, I have again decided to wait.
The last game that was in my drive has been Brutal Legend, and I have been playing that constantly for a week prior to all of this happening.
I downloaded Borderlands, but held off burning it because of people saying there were potential bands related to playing a bad rip despite abgx saying it was good.
I'm going to attempt to put in Fallout 3 later tonight and see what happens.
Do you think its safe to play Forza Motorsport 3? Its Wave 3 and safe according to ABGX.... I dont know though, because that would mean wiping MW2 off my 360, and who knows if its completely off the NAND.
How many Legit Xbox Games does it take to overwrite/clear the flash memory of mw2 data?
Post by: KobeLebron on November 07, 2009, 06:33:00 PM
QUOTE(MrBlonde @ Nov 5 2009, 11:52 PM)
Rockin a LiteOn modded with 1.6. Played a few games in the last few days with no problem. Even on live. ODST and GTA. No problems. Even beat MW2 campaign offline, no network no HDD attached about 3 times now. No problem connecting after each. Now I do let the internal clock reset to 2005/11/22 (or whatever) before I play MW2. Dont know if that does anything, but all seems well so far.
I did same thing. Thurs. night played MW2 w/ no HDD and no ethernet connection. Saturday afternoon fired up Live and got banned. Was playing Forza 3, Borderlands, Halo Wars in the weeks before though. Also, used boot disk to play MW2. Maybe that was detected? A change in the firmware by boot disk?
Post by: dash006 on November 07, 2009, 10:48:00 PM
Borderlands, GTA addon , MW2 offline with no HD, and no profile, so no achievements.)
This post has been edited by dash006: Nov 8 2009, 06:52 AM
Post by: DarkBlades on November 07, 2009, 11:24:00 PM
QUOTE(dash006 @ Nov 7 2009, 09:48 PM)
i was banned nov 6, hitachi 1.6, played mw2 offline with no HD ...within a few hours, new LiteOn 1.6and $109 less in my wallet i had a new console flashed and back on live... not playing any wave 4 games, as they are my biggest suspect for being banned.
Borderlands, GTA addon , MW2 offline with no HD, and no profile, so no achievements.)
If thats the case, whats the chances of me being banned when I log on. o_O I have played MW2, offline w/ HDD on a dummy account, but before I go online. Ill delete any trace of MW2.
Post by: interman on November 08, 2009, 05:28:00 AM
Post by: x!li0n on November 08, 2009, 07:50:00 AM
I had a LiteOn DVD-Drive with iXtreme 1.6.
NEVER player any Wave 4 games.
Post by: afhaaljap on November 08, 2009, 07:53:00 AM
1 benq spoofed as liteon ix1.6
1 samsung m28 spoofed as m25 ix1.6
maybe the spoofing has caused the bans?
anyone please comment
Post by: xflbret on November 08, 2009, 08:21:00 AM
-BenQ
-iXtreme 1.6
-Always twice-scrubbed with level 3 fix with abgx360 before I burned any game, with one exception...
-I burned Tekken 6, and used the one-shot boot disc to play it...just once though. That was a couple of weeks ago. Could that have been enough?
-never played a game before the release date (not out of fear, but because the seeders were giving it out soooooooo slow that I could never finish the download before the release date)
What I don't understand is that before yesterday it was fine, then yesterday it got banned when I was playing my copy of NASCAR 09, a totally legit game, with green box, manual, the whole nine yards.
I posted elsewhere about how I really don't care and how I've grown to see XBL as something that sucks and that is misleading and pretty much a rip-off, but a bunch of welfare cheats jumped down my throat so I won't go there again with it...
hope my info helps.
Post by: afhaaljap on November 08, 2009, 08:56:00 AM
QUOTE(afhaaljap @ Nov 8 2009, 03:53 PM)
i myself have a benq ix1.61 and no ban, but 2 of my friends got banned this week:
1 benq spoofed as liteon ix1.6
1 samsung m28 spoofed as m25 ix1.6
maybe the spoofing has caused the bans?
anyone please comment
forgot to mention the guy with benq played backup forza 3 (don't know how many times) and the guy with samsung only played backup fifa 10 (BUT bought his x360 of ebay and when i flashed his to ix16 i found out that the seal was broken and that it didn't have the original drive in it (the seller "forgot" to mention that)) he got to play xbl for 1 month
This post has been edited by afhaaljap: Nov 8 2009, 04:59 PM
Post by: ajmatsick on November 08, 2009, 09:31:00 AM
- Lite-on ix1.6, not spoofed
- Falcon board, if it matters
Post by: DennisV2 on November 08, 2009, 11:05:00 AM
LiteOn 1.51, only played games I checked and NEVER before the release.
A well, at least i had an excuse to start MW2 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Post by: titansfan2104 on November 08, 2009, 11:59:00 AM
got an elite next to it with lite on 1.6 and just flashhed wed. it had no live connection or hdd but played backup of MW2 system link and then deleted the profile and all items and formatted the onboard memory. and only playing retail from now on to see if it gets smacked!! i really believe they are detecting firmware because we have around 50 of them out there and my friends sister who is an older lady got banned and she has no backups !! only played uno online!!! so i dont know!!!!!! my wife is on the way back with 3 of the wal mart $100 consoles!!
sorry bout punc. andd one big paragraph!!!
Post by: DarkBlades on November 08, 2009, 12:36:00 PM
DarkBlades going Ninja
Post by: mortuk on November 08, 2009, 01:01:00 PM
Have 1.61 with Liton Drive.
Only ever played Guitar Hero 5 online.
Played MW2 using activator Disk, Offline with no HDD.
Banned 7th Nov...
Mort..
Post by: my77stang on November 08, 2009, 06:12:00 PM
*crosses fingers*
Post by: minooch on November 08, 2009, 09:18:00 PM
Post by: rastaman108037 on November 08, 2009, 10:45:00 PM
Guess it only takes one. Oh well, microsoft will just be receiving another, different broken xbox that I only paid 40 bucks for. Their loss more than mine.
Post by: McNamee on November 08, 2009, 10:49:00 PM
Once I burnt the activate disc, i tried to play borderlands, and for some reason it said it was a dvd, I put the boot disc in, then put borderlands in and then borderlands booted no problem, then i played it all night, went to bed, next day booted up the game and it didnt need the boot disc for some odd reason, then after about an hour playing, banned.
Post by: ecowarm on November 09, 2009, 02:29:00 AM
Post by: ectraz on November 09, 2009, 03:12:00 AM
there pretty hot on it at the moment, also had another benny go which was strange because there was only ever 3backups played on it and that was over a year ago, in the past 8mnths its been on live with originals, so there DB Log must go back a while, the copies were never played online.
Post by: carlcall on November 09, 2009, 05:58:00 AM
Wanted to try the new MW2 with the activation disk on a Lite-on with FW1.6, removed the RJ45 but not the HDD. This was the first time i'd tried the activation disk so I'm putting my misfortune down to that....oh and for having a modded console!
Daren't turn on my sons console just incase. I think he may not be going online for a while now though.
Post by: Spykon on November 09, 2009, 06:33:00 AM
Busted here aswell.. 1.6 Liteon drive, played some GTA EFLC the last three days and today I connect and I got the message. Never thought this would happen, but then again, I never thought in the past I would be playing backups online for a loong time
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Post by: carlcall on November 09, 2009, 06:35:00 AM
QUOTE(carlcall @ Nov 9 2009, 01:58 PM)
Wanted to try the new MW2 with the activation disk on a Lite-on with FW1.6, removed the RJ45 but not the HDD.
(This wasn't done on my Live Account....but on a testing account)
Didn't make any difference though!
I also think I should frequently post here......Join Date July 06 and only 3 posts
Post by: psychoarse on November 09, 2009, 07:03:00 AM
I have a lite on spoofed as a benq been running on live for about a year flashed.
Over 60 backups played on it but no wave 4 or activate.iso.
I decided I didn't want to push my luck so I have disconnected from live and cancelled my gold membership and have been given a full refund from micro$haft.
I think I'm just gonna do my online gaming on my ps3 from now on.
Post by: Bearhug on November 09, 2009, 08:10:00 AM
Seems several community released "backups" are causing the issues.
If anyone with all self made backups has been banned can you please let us know? (I would appreciate you just not posting a reply to my post if you have sourced backups from anywhere but your own drive).
I know it's to early to tell for sure, but none have had any issues as yet for self-made backups. In saying that the last lot only just got banned 1 week after the first lot did.
Please keep the info coming, but please don't mislead to cover your arse, just don't post if you have been naughty.
Post by: leog333 on November 09, 2009, 08:29:00 AM
QUOTE(Bearhug @ Nov 9 2009, 04:10 PM)
Starting to look like a flagged game issue from my end. Over 20 modded xbox's only ones used for non self made backups are causing issues with bans. All used with self made backups are up and running on live.
Seems several community released "backups" are causing the issues.
If anyone with all self made backups has been banned can you please let us know? (I would appreciate you just not posting a reply to my post if you have sourced backups from anywhere but your own drive).
I know it's to early to tell for sure, but none have had any issues as yet for self-made backups. In saying that the last lot only just got banned 1 week after the first lot did.
Please keep the info coming, but please don't mislead to cover your arse, just don't post if you have been naughty.
A buddy and I have the same identical setup, from games, to drive, to fw, to disc media. We play almost the same times.
I'm banned, and to date, he isn't.
Nothing is consistent here. It's random, which is why the new Lite-on fw is taking a while to dev.
Post by: drewZen on November 09, 2009, 08:36:00 AM
benq 1.5 -> 1.51 -> 1.6
no wave 4 or activate discs
abgx verified on verbs/tdk
no games played before release date
something i want to add that I haven't heard much about. Xbox.com has a transfer license tool on their website:
http://www.xbox.com/...ion/default.htm
from here they keep track of your console id's and what licenses are downloaded to them. In my case i have over 5 consoles linked to my gamertag and my banned one is on that list of course. This might or might not be a factor.. who knows, think we have heard everything else at this point.
Post by: llex on November 09, 2009, 10:32:00 AM
- Hitachi-LG
- FW 1.51
- Never played before the release.
- recent games (last month) were BF Bad Company 2 (online), Borderlands (local).
Post by: dparks256 on November 09, 2009, 01:21:00 PM
Lite-on DG-16D2S 7485.
iXtreme 1.6
Using Verbatim DL Discs Burned at 2.4x (Unsure of country of origin)
Library of 30 games ripped by me from original game discs only.
About 8 of my rips required a level 3 fix to patch the SS.
All isos pass abgx 1.0 with all greens, were burned using XBC 2.9b306, using imgburn as burning engine, verification enabled (From the .dvd)
Booktype was NOT set, although I am almost 100% positive iXtreme takes care of that now. (My drive does not have booktype firmware available)
Played ZERO wave 4 games, also no early releases that I know of.
What PROBABLY was my mistake: I played a bittorrent release of Dirt 2 (which turned out to be effing corrupted thanks to a lazy ripper or something) and ODST in my first few days with this box without thinking. ETHERNET CABLE UNPLUGGED, but signed into my live account in offline mode. Anyone know if this allows disc checks to be cached, and then submitted later? It was a impatient mistake probably, I didn't have any games at that point and was anxious, having been without an xbox for a year or so. (Had never heard of abgx)
Banned while on live, Unreal Tournament 3 in drive. Interestingly corrupted a local profile too that was logged in a moment before, but not currently. Didn't know the banhammer did that. (was switching to guest mode for a buddy to play UT3 multiplayer.) I didn't see any UT3 save fiels when I recovered the drive, I will have to experiment as to whether these were deleted, or whether I had not progressed far enough to create them yet. Any advice as to whether any rumors I've heard about the HDD being tagged is true? I replaced the drive, but have imported my live account, and savegames. Bad idea? This would theoretically give M$ my new HWIDs, but do they use this? I wouldn't think so, since a user could "go clean", and the live account is one way M$ actually IS getting paid. (That is why I suspect that they allow you to keep your account and gamerscore. To keep you with the xbox line of consoles.)
NOT Banned:
2x Lite-on DG-16D2S 83850C @ iXtreme 1.6 (My two friends I take care of)
Played no wave4 games.
Played same games on same medium as banned box. (Burned by me) But not bittorrent isos. Have a slightly smaller selection of burned games.
I've been cracking xboxes for about two years now, and would really love some expert feedback on those questions. Thanks! PS my xbox is already replaced and singing along on a new 83850C, bite me M$. And thanks, my drive was probably getting a little worn from all those pirated games, the new one should last me a while longer.
Post by: Pureincognito on November 09, 2009, 01:21:00 PM
-Lite-on
-FW 1.6
-Never played before release.
-Recently played games: Fallout 3, Halo ODST
-No wave 4 games ever!
All of my back-ups are self made. I never once played a downloaded game. All of them were made with a BenQ flashed with 0800 FW and checked with abgx. Most games were burned to verbatim, but recently I have been using Sony DL. I do not think it is the media that caused this ban. All I do know is that I am still happily playing my xbox offline for the moment. I will be waiting to get a new one until this investigation is over.
Post by: bgator357 on November 09, 2009, 02:10:00 PM
Benq recently patched from 1.6 to 1.61 (most recent patched on a seperate console)
No games played before release.
All games verified via abgx.
No wave 4 games played yet.
Post by: sroach23 on November 09, 2009, 02:20:00 PM
Post by: sroach23 on November 09, 2009, 03:15:00 PM
Post by: KilluminatiStyle on November 09, 2009, 03:30:00 PM
TS drive
1.61 Firmware
Modded for about 3 years now without issue, though I don't play on live hardly at all. I'm a PC gamer first and foremost.
No biggie for me. I still have another 360 that's never even been on live that should be o.k. for if I decide to get back on Live.
Post by: sbmd on November 09, 2009, 04:22:00 PM
Samsung spoofed as a hitachi running 1.6 iX.
Backed up games played were Wolfenstein and Borderlands.
I moved the HDD to a new console I just bought, recovered my gamertag and went on playing borderlands without an issue with my gamesave. I will have to reinstall the game to my HDD as known.
Post by: catchthabeat on November 09, 2009, 09:18:00 PM
After the latest Update Facebook etc ... When you connect to live it downloads a file But you don't see the file downloading Wired...ok so i did check the file and it has RSA on it and its a live file its 55 kb in size and its in the content partition 0000000000000000 when the download is complete the xbox will Randomize a name with 8 chars for me it was
4D51184 i tried deleting the partition but as soon as you connect to live it will download the file which i think checks you Firmware and sends it to a remote server
i hope this information helps
Please Experiment with this
btw i tried un plugging my cable while the "invisible" download is downloading
and it said Download stopped the name of the download is in uni-code
so im not sure if this has something to do with people getting banned and what not but just wanted to share this info with you guys and hope this helped.
Post by: sp71supra on November 09, 2009, 09:58:00 PM
BenQ
Ix 1.6
Played a Halo 3 ODST Allstars bittorrent release online.. against my advice.
I also put this disk in my box with no internet cable attached, played for 5 min and did not unlock any achievements. I also disconnected my hard drive and cable and played MW2 for about 5 min and did not unlock any achievements. I am now afraid to connect my xbox. Is there any way to clear that data before I connect again?
My girlfriends brothers xbox got banned last night.
BenQ
Ix 1.6
Played a Halo 3 ODST Allstars bittorrent release online.. against my advice.
I also put this disk in my box with no internet cable attached, played for 5 min and did not unlock any achievements. I also disconnected my hard drive and cable and played MW2 for about 5 min and did not unlock any achievements. I am now afraid to connect my xbox. Is there any way to clear that data before I connect again?
My girlfriends brothers xbox got banned last night.
BenQ
Ix 1.6
Played a Halo 3 ODST Allstars bittorrent release online.. against my advice.
I also put this disk in my box with no internet cable attached, played for 5 min and did not unlock any achievements. I also disconnected my hard drive and cable and played MW2 for about 5 min and did not unlock any achievements. I am now afraid to connect my xbox. Is there any way to clear that data before I connect again?
Post by: samljer on November 09, 2009, 11:34:00 PM
Banned nov 5ish
Played lots of games fine, then one night played rock band the beatles online
woke up to play again to a nice ban warning
ABGX verified everything. Didnt play early releases
MY GUESS:
The idiot that charged me $40 to flash my FW powered the liteon
with the XBOX itself... that jackass powered it on without the DVD drive...
"BTW ppl, if your banned and just cant figure out why, thats it"
"Probably why 1 guy here was banned in the middle of playing a legitamite game"
Theres a ROM chip that records activity on your xbox
and power on without a dvd drive connected is a pretty big ass red flag
you want to avoid.
cuz as soon as u connect that information is uploaded
and as thier servers sweep console ID's and reach yours and sees that, your banned.
Btw, staying offline wont help either a cousin of mine hadnt played in like 8 months
and turned on today to a ban. they record everything u did dumb
dont even play a game that fails and say "oh ill just unplug my network"
Youll get banned
Post by: afhaaljap on November 10, 2009, 05:04:00 AM
QUOTE(samljer @ Nov 10 2009, 07:34 AM)
LiteOn 1.6 no spoof.
Banned nov 5ish
Played lots of games fine, then one night played rock band the beatles online
woke up to play again to a nice ban warning
ABGX verified everything. Didnt play early releases
MY GUESS:
The idiot that charged me $40 to flash my FW powered the liteon
with the XBOX itself... that jackass powered it on without the DVD drive...
"BTW ppl, if your banned and just cant figure out why, thats it"
"Probably why 1 guy here was banned in the middle of playing a legitamite game"
Theres a ROM chip that records activity on your xbox
and power on without a dvd drive connected is a pretty big ass red flag
you want to avoid.
cuz as soon as u connect that information is uploaded
and as thier servers sweep console ID's and reach yours and sees that, your banned.
Btw, staying offline wont help either a cousin of mine hadnt played in like 8 months
and turned on today to a ban. they record everything u did dumb
dont even play a game that fails and say "oh ill just unplug my network"
Youll get banned
when i updated my benq in may to ix16 (now it's ix161) i did turn on my xbox without dvd connected, because of the half-tray open thing. didn't get banned so far, even played GTA episodes from liberty city online
Post by: mupet0000 on November 10, 2009, 09:03:00 AM
Post by: Tameanaka on November 10, 2009, 11:29:00 AM
He just flashed an elite he just bought less than a month ago, liteon to 1.6.
Only played three games, all of which are verified via abgx.
Post by: Lazarus2009 on November 10, 2009, 12:48:00 PM
Had it modded for about 6 months, only wave 4 game I played was GTA episodes.
Every single disc was verified by ABGX before and after burning.
I was using Verbatim DVD+R DL media.
Post by: DarkbyDesign18 on November 10, 2009, 01:19:00 PM
To put rest to some other stuff i have read -
1 - My console was modded from the box and *NEVER* plugged in before the mod. Updates were applied after it was modded.
2- I have only played 3 bad games online. When I say bad i mean illegitimate games that were not backed up or originals. I will not name those games but they were verified through ABGX and burnt at 2X speed on IMGburn using Verbatim D Layer. The rest of my games were originals. So in total I play 6 games online. Three original, three copied.
3 - I *NEVER* played any games pre release. Even single player so no real flags there.
4 - I *NEVER* played wave 4 games either and was banned before the new update
5 - Mod was done with connectivity kit and not from the xbox power supply.
Post by: nhoj_yelbom on November 10, 2009, 03:41:00 PM
Post by: wer1331 on November 10, 2009, 03:50:00 PM
Post by: sinyrfan78 on November 10, 2009, 04:11:00 PM
M$ lost another customer.Live and map packs were a shoe in for money and now i will give it to sony and wii and go back to PC gaming where i didnt pay to play either.
Greedy bastards...
and its not the modders that raise the prices of the games. That is such rubbish.
Post by: pseudomh83 on November 10, 2009, 04:56:00 PM
Post by: kaos_king on November 10, 2009, 04:58:00 PM
Hadn't turned my xbox on for a week or so, got the new GTA & verified in abgx, burnt with ImgBurn on verbs and turned the box on today.....banned
Hitachi 1.51. Previous games were all verified and burn using the same method
Post by: ceaserone on November 10, 2009, 05:50:00 PM
*&^*%*&$^#(* and )(*&*&** also *)(*&%.....M$
Post by: jamesnmandy on November 10, 2009, 07:33:00 PM
QUOTE(Ericn84 @ Nov 5 2009, 10:37 PM)
Only me and one other person dont have modified firmware?
i dont either, the machine was running 1.41 at one time for about a year or so, never updated past 1.41, did not use any backups for months now and about a month or so ago i actually flashed back to stock because i "got a feeling".....it was really weird, just thought one day, you know, its coming one day....and we use it for Netflix and use legit games 100% so i flashed it back
not banned either....
Post by: LS1Nova on November 10, 2009, 10:13:00 PM
QUOTE(Spike64bit @ Nov 7 2009, 12:29 AM)
I have modded two of my friends boxes the last month, and mine has been modded for a year now, and we all burn our games on 2.4x burn speed with Verbatim DL dvds + abgx. None of us has been banned so far. Even played Forza 3 early. So bad disks may be the reason MS can detect modded boxes.
Haven't read the whole thread, but just wanted to debunk this idea. I use nothing but Verbatim DL's burned at 2.4x, so it's not the discs.
Matt
Post by: ThaCrip on November 10, 2009, 11:38:00 PM
that's what i selected since i cant afford to get banned solely because they disable the copying of games to hard drive ability which would suck for me since the primary game i like on XBox360 is Forza 3 which as you all know is on 2 discs and only way to use the 2nd disc (i.e. extra content) is to have it running from Hard Drive.
p.s. for the record i got a Samsung MS28 drive and i am not banned as far as i know but i aint going to sign in to check unless they stop disabling of the copying games to hard drive stuff.
so most likely i wont be signing into XBox Live for a long time on that console, if ever again.
Post by: Bearhug on November 11, 2009, 01:14:00 AM
QUOTE
The idiot that charged me $40 to flash my FW powered the liteon
with the XBOX itself... that jackass powered it on without the DVD drive...
"BTW ppl, if your banned and just cant figure out why, thats it"
"Probably why 1 guy here was banned in the middle of playing a legitamite game"
Theres a ROM chip that records activity on your xbox
and power on without a dvd drive connected is a pretty big ass red flag
you want to avoid.
with the XBOX itself... that jackass powered it on without the DVD drive...
"BTW ppl, if your banned and just cant figure out why, thats it"
"Probably why 1 guy here was banned in the middle of playing a legitamite game"
Theres a ROM chip that records activity on your xbox
and power on without a dvd drive connected is a pretty big ass red flag
you want to avoid.
So has anyone that has done a xclamp repair without modding been banned then?
Post by: eyerule on November 11, 2009, 02:50:00 AM
I only played stealth patched games and never played games early then release date. I never used an activation disk and only played wave 3 games (before COD6). My xbox never booted without DVD-drive. Only played Fifa09, FIFA10 and Guitar Hero 4 on this console.
I bought COD MWF2 and before that i was not banned. I inserted COD MWF2 into the drive (flashed with iXTREME 1.51) and immediately i got banned. When i try to sign in i got the message that my console was banned. Very strange.
Post by: Ombadu on November 11, 2009, 08:14:00 AM
Post by: 23bobbyg on November 11, 2009, 08:20:00 AM
Post by: ozman911 on November 11, 2009, 08:28:00 AM
First of all Ive been modding consoles for a long time. My console that got banned has a BenQ spoofed as a Sammy.
I stayed away from any Wave4 games and never even downloaded 1. I stealth check all my games and. I havnt even played a game online for weeks. Though my profile automatically logs in my profile and live because we use it to watch movies from the media server in our house.
With that being said here is a theory that crossed my mind. I put off even DLing MW@ until yesterday morining. I did start the download before I left for work. When I come home the kids turned on the xbox to watch a movie and bam! My console was banned.
Anyone else have a sneaking suspecion that MS is watching game downloads, recording ip addresses and waiting for that console to come online on the same ip as the pc that downloaded the game? It would explain the bans on the unmodded consoles.
Post by: pada123 on November 11, 2009, 10:04:00 AM
Post by: WinniMH on November 11, 2009, 10:09:00 AM
QUOTE(ozman911 @ Nov 11 2009, 04:28 PM)
Just waned to add my info here, hoping it will help us figure out how MS is doing this. I was banned last night and I have few theorys.
First of all Ive been modding consoles for a long time. My console that got banned has a BenQ spoofed as a Sammy.
I stayed away from any Wave4 games and never even downloaded 1. I stealth check all my games and. I havnt even played a game online for weeks. Though my profile automatically logs in my profile and live because we use it to watch movies from the media server in our house.
With that being said here is a theory that crossed my mind. I put off even DLing MW@ until yesterday morining. I did start the download before I left for work. When I come home the kids turned on the xbox to watch a movie and bam! My console was banned.
Anyone else have a sneaking suspecion that MS is watching game downloads, recording ip addresses and waiting for that console to come online on the same ip as the pc that downloaded the game? It would explain the bans on the unmodded consoles.
I don't think Microsoft is doing that. I guess they identified your modified FW or they were able to identify your modified box some time ago. This makes sense as if they would directly ban you because for example you played a corrupt copy or similliar they would show how they identified you. They way they are doing it is opening many theoratically ideas what could be the driver and makes it much more complicated for the scene to find something to block it.
greetz
Post by: Pureincognito on November 11, 2009, 10:50:00 AM
QUOTE(ozman911 @ Nov 11 2009, 09:28 AM)
Just waned to add my info here, hoping it will help us figure out how MS is doing this. I was banned last night and I have few theorys.
First of all Ive been modding consoles for a long time. My console that got banned has a BenQ spoofed as a Sammy.
I stayed away from any Wave4 games and never even downloaded 1. I stealth check all my games and. I havnt even played a game online for weeks. Though my profile automatically logs in my profile and live because we use it to watch movies from the media server in our house.
With that being said here is a theory that crossed my mind. I put off even DLing MW@ until yesterday morining. I did start the download before I left for work. When I come home the kids turned on the xbox to watch a movie and bam! My console was banned.
Anyone else have a sneaking suspecion that MS is watching game downloads, recording ip addresses and waiting for that console to come online on the same ip as the pc that downloaded the game? It would explain the bans on the unmodded consoles.
Microsoft is definately not watching downloads. I know this because I was recently banned and I have never downloaded a game, period. All of my backups have been self made from the original disks and verified with abgx. Also, if this were the case, M$ wouldn't be able to catch the people who let someone else download thier games.
QUOTE(pada123 @ Nov 11 2009, 11:04 AM)
Well I think its pretty obvious that the latest dashboard update (wave4)...detects modified fw right away when u connect to live...doesnt matter what u do.....your fw squeels on you....and then u get banned.....
Seems like this could be true, but wouldn't everyone be banned already then? Microsoft wouldn't pick and choose accounts to ban if it could catch everyone.
Post by: ozman911 on November 11, 2009, 11:41:00 AM
QUOTE(WinniMH @ Nov 11 2009, 12:09 PM)
I don't think Microsoft is doing that. I guess they identified your modified FW or they were able to identify your modified box some time ago. This makes sense as if they would directly ban you because for example you played a corrupt copy or similliar they would show how they identified you. They way they are doing it is opening many theoratically ideas what could be the driver and makes it much more complicated for the scene to find something to block it.
greetz
QUOTE(Pureincognito @ Nov 11 2009, 12:50 PM)
Microsoft is definately not watching downloads. I know this because I was recently banned and I have never downloaded a game, period. All of my backups have been self made from the original disks and verified with abgx. Also, if this were the case, M$ wouldn't be able to catch the people who let someone else download thier games.
Seems like this could be true, but wouldn't everyone be banned already then? Microsoft wouldn't pick and choose accounts to ban if it could catch everyone.
Both very good points,,,Like I said though I just wanted to add my 2 cents worth.....Now that you mention the latest dashboard update ,,,,,, Maybe that would have something to do with it,, I dont know why but it skipped my mind.
The thing that really urks me is I really didnt play online games but More so I used my console to watch movies on.
No biggie though I just moved the media server to the 50" Samsung,,, What a PIC!!
All this being said, one would think MS stands to loose a bunch of money from this. Heres what I know about my situation.
1) I pay the monthly live subscription faithfully.
2) I use the console mainly for movies and such.
3) If I have to pay $60 to try a game and decided I dont like it... Not gonna happen.
So my thinking is this... Christmas time, PS3 price drop, No subscription fee for PS3 internet (as far as I knows), PS3 plays movies, is more stable, and roughly the same price for games etc.
The ONLY reason I have not bought a PS3 and stayed with the 360 is cause I could mod it.
So if this goes away I belive I will be buying a PS3 soon and Canceling my XBOX Live membership.
I know that we need to buy the games to support the game makers and I do buy the ones I like. But looking at this from MS stand point if all of the 1,000,000 supposed banned consoles have the same line of thinking as me, thats roughly $8,000,000 lost PER month!
Givin there are more variables here that need to be factored in but at first look,,,,, I think $8,000,000 a month is a nice chunk of change to loose.
Post by: ThaSiccSense on November 11, 2009, 02:15:00 PM
Post by: meiso on November 11, 2009, 03:25:00 PM
I'm just going to use my 360 as a doorstop now. It was nice while it lasted but Microsoft won this battle. They haven't won the war though because I've pirated the shit out of most of their other stuff.
Post by: Flux84 on November 11, 2009, 03:54:00 PM
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Post by: ajennice on February 02, 2020, 10:10:00 PM
There is no system on how it's being done, not by gamertag or anything. The system,just flags you and then when they get to your name they trow the switch.
I have also know 2 people that have been banned AND not having modded consoles. Bother guys work at EB games and bring games home every night for free so they don't need mods. Both guys are bringing this up with their regional manage and their MS distributors as well as getting word out to all stores that wrongfully banned console complaints may start pouring in my the hundreds in the next few weeks.
Both of them also called 360 support and posted on the 360 forums of their case. Both got a "cut and paste" reply stating they violated the Terms of use and gave a very useless link. They're even thinking of going as far as contact the State Atorney General and trying to get a "breach of Contract" suit goingfor wrongfully banned consoles since Xbox is saying, in replies that they violated the terms (which is unproven and unsupported)
So untill someone gets a fix for this which may or may not come, stay off of live.
IF you think you're on the list or may of already got banned and do not want to connect to live, visit the xbox repair secion.. enter your info and IF you're still under warranty (time wise) and not banned it will let you create a ticket for repair. If you're ok on the 3 years BUT banned it will not let you create a service ticket.
Hope this helps a bit
Post by: Pureincognito on November 12, 2009, 01:58:00 PM
QUOTE(NooooOOOOB @ Nov 11 2009, 09:10 PM)
wonder if ms viewing this and find out than they are doing it hard enough.. bad idea to do this survey.
WHAT? You need some real help with your grammar bud. In no way, will this thread have anything to do with microsoft finding out anything. This is simply a survey for the scene to compare bans. It will not make a difference to M$ which drives or firmware they banned.
Post by: lcriscola on February 03, 2020, 06:02:00 PM
Of course I have a hacked firmware.
What do tou think has happend?
Luciano.
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Post by: uk_dan2k on November 13, 2009, 01:57:00 AM
been on for years, always had latest firmware installed, always played abgx verified games always after release date too.
lite-on drive with 1.6 been using that activate disc recently thou,
not sure if that's the thing that got me or somethin in the past.anywayz i do most my gaming offline with me and my mates and i can stream videos through 3rd party software, so screw them im keeping my £40 a year.
Post by: shadow647 on November 13, 2009, 02:21:00 AM
Post by: kidnaper on November 13, 2009, 02:31:00 AM
Post by: Cloud Xtrife on November 13, 2009, 05:18:00 AM
QUOTE(ajennice @ Nov 12 2009, 01:10 AM)
They're even thinking of going as far as contact the State Atorney General and trying to get a "breach of Contract" suit goingfor wrongfully banned consoles since Xbox is saying, in replies that they violated the terms (which is unproven and unsupported)
nice. Hope they get somewhere with that. MS definitely went too far there.
Obviously selling consoles for holidays is all they want
Post by: afhaaljap on November 13, 2009, 05:38:00 AM
Post by: FAQdaWorld on November 13, 2009, 05:40:00 AM
I've modded 6 xboxes or so now.
2 of them I know for sure are banned and both occurred within the past week. Both were lite-ons. One was banned last saturday (the 7th of nov.) and the other was banned just last nite the 12th of november. The games never had any unverified games played on them and were all burned at 2.4x on verbatim's from singapore. Something is DEFINITELY up. It's not just the games and stealth that is getting these boxes banned because I checked and RECHECKED every disc ever played on these systems and all passed with flying colors.
I haven't actually checked the other xboxes that were modded, 2 of the others were samsung ms25's and one was a benq, when I get home I'll see if they've been hit with the ban hammer. One of the others is never online at all in the first place so i'm not worried about it.
Beyond that these systems all work great and now we dont need to worry about stealthing our games on them. As far as i know they'll still work for system link and such so I still see the hackers coming out on top on this one?
Post by: ghaleon70 on November 13, 2009, 07:06:00 AM
QUOTE(nastyn8 @ Nov 6 2009, 09:31 PM)
To clear up the HDD questions.....you will most likely lose all your games saves. You have to reformat on a nonbanned console and never use it on a banned console ever again. Once you make a game save on a banned console It will corrupt your profile and you will have to reformat again. Some have said as long as they didn't save anything after the ban they could transfer their game saves back after they reformatted.
Ex. Put all your important game saves on your comp. or a mem card and reformat your HDD on a non banned console, recover your gamertag, then transfer your saves back on the non banned console. It has been this way every time the ban hammer has hit.
YOU DO NOT LOSE YOUR SAVES. I got banned last night, went out and bought a new xbox, plugged my old HDD into my new xbox, deleted my profile (NOT THE FILES) and recovered my gamertag. All files and MS points were still there.
Post by: FlipmodeBG on November 13, 2009, 07:49:00 AM
flashed my console at day 1, used to play games on live only for couple of months or so. since then using live mostly for game/dashboard updates.
never played wave3 game on my old firmware.
never played any non-verified or pre-release game, neither live or offline for that matter !!
Post by: Pureincognito on November 13, 2009, 09:15:00 AM
M$ previously could not detect modified firmware. As far as I know they still can't, but you have to wonder, with all the recent bans, if M$ found a way to directly detect the firmware regardless of what games/media/stelth was used.
With my new knowlege of the situation I would say if your cache is clean, meaning that you have not played any unstelthed, prereleased games, or used bad media recently, and you have not been banned yet, you can problably reflash your console to the original unhacked firmware and avoid being banneed. If you do try this make sure you play offline for a while to clean the cache if needed.
This is just an observation in no way have I tested this because my unit is already banned. Just a thought that makes sense to me.
My friend has yet to be banned so we will put this to the test and I will post our results in a few days.
Post by: amptor on November 13, 2009, 02:06:00 PM
This one that got banned was free, I paid nothing for it. It is a premium.
My other one isn't a premium but it looks like one, just put the chrome bezel on the drive and all I gotta do is grab a new hdd for it because I really don't give a f*** about the stuff I downloaded off of live on my old account, just going to scrap it. I probably have $40 worth of content on that drive and all my achievements mean absolutely nothing at all to me. One of their bug ridden games corrupted its own save file and I played that one so much that I even purchased the retail disc.
Anyhow if I want to play online they can keep live, I'll just buy a playstation 3 or even better since I already have a PC that is leaps and bounds more powerful than this old crappy hardware we are scrounging around on these forums about information on bans about... I can just play the legit games on that instead. My PC screen looks nice and I even have the PC plugged into my big screen to begin with.
Post by: schydigga on November 13, 2009, 02:38:00 PM
Post by: audiolizard on November 13, 2009, 06:37:00 PM
Post by: IAttackYou on November 13, 2009, 07:30:00 PM
QUOTE(audiolizard @ Nov 14 2009, 02:37 AM)
You all have got to go to xbox.com and look in their forums a whole bunch of non-modded xbox's got banned, and M$ is just telling basically to go and buy another one for Christmas.... How exactly do you fight a big corporate giant like that?
I have also been hearing about those too but I have a feeling that they might have bought those on ebay and maybe it was modded already. My 1.61 benq just got banned yesterday and I heard people got banned too playing legit copy of games with modded xbox. Do you guys think they can scan by any chance?
Post by: deilzfcjk on November 13, 2009, 09:37:00 PM
QUOTE(samljer @ Nov 9 2009, 10:34 PM)
LiteOn 1.6 no spoof.
Banned nov 5ish
Played lots of games fine, then one night played rock band the beatles online
woke up to play again to a nice ban warning
ABGX verified everything. Didnt play early releases
MY GUESS:
The idiot that charged me $40 to flash my FW powered the liteon
with the XBOX itself... that jackass powered it on without the DVD drive...
"BTW ppl, if your banned and just cant figure out why, thats it"
"Probably why 1 guy here was banned in the middle of playing a legitamite game"
Theres a ROM chip that records activity on your xbox
and power on without a dvd drive connected is a pretty big ass red flag
you want to avoid.
cuz as soon as u connect that information is uploaded
and as thier servers sweep console ID's and reach yours and sees that, your banned.
Btw, staying offline wont help either a cousin of mine hadnt played in like 8 months
and turned on today to a ban. they record everything u did dumb
dont even play a game that fails and say "oh ill just unplug my network"
Youll get banned
The last post from me was in response to this guy
Post by: Tricky103 on November 14, 2009, 01:51:00 AM
I only upped the firmware recently from 1.51 so I could play the new wave of games.
I did put the acive.iso disc in when it was 1.51 because I totally forgot what firmware was on it as I mod a few boxes.
They fuct me over in the last ban, banning my Elite that was under warranty, then it got rrod, (fix kits arn't working)
But hey I have had great gaming for a year for £130, and I'm still smiling.
Playin Assassin Creed now and don't have care about the release date.
Post by: Cafeine on November 14, 2009, 09:47:00 AM
Liteon, 1.6, never played non-released games, used activate.iso...
Sad day ='(
Post by: fruchte on November 14, 2009, 10:36:00 AM
The Facts:
- One Box with Samsung and FW 1.51 flashed with "iprep" not banned, online, gold and play 4waves games all the day <- was it the name of the flash tool? I can`t remember.
- 2 boxes with Hitachi 1.61 FW flashed with jungleflasher, banned, one with silver one with gold.
Should it be the flashtool that "make" the boxes banned from live?
Best regards from germany
What i have forgot to say is that we only played fifa10 from the same burned iso file. one banned the other box still live since 2 years o so
Post by: kmvguy83 on November 14, 2009, 12:26:00 PM
all games were abgx tested for ss, dmi except for gears because that's an old game i burned over 2 years ago.
Post by: GK Toronto FC on November 14, 2009, 01:13:00 PM
Post by: etnmich on November 14, 2009, 03:47:00 PM
[Edit] And I have a Benq drive with iExtreme 1.6, in case somebody is interested.
Post by: karim_ps on November 14, 2009, 04:19:00 PM
so what are you waiting for guys ,lets fuc M$ and get PS3's
Post by: jhughes2466 on November 14, 2009, 08:08:00 PM
QUOTE(Puffer @ Nov 5 2009, 09:55 PM)
Needs a slot for "Refuse to log in to get banned". I have a Lite-On and I doubt I have been banned, but it is not worth losing my HDD to log in to see.
Go to your settings and select the test connection to xbox live, that will let you know if your banned or not and it won't mess up your HDD.
If you've already been banned it will pop up and say your banned, if you haven't but your flagged on your Z: line the last 4 will be 190D. If the last 4 says that then your flagged to be banned, go ahead and start looking for a new box.
Here is the youtube video showing the xbox live test...
Post by: DodgeM4s on November 14, 2009, 08:58:00 PM
Post by: Solidsnake69 on November 15, 2009, 02:36:00 AM
Post by: mastah on November 15, 2009, 04:06:00 AM
Banned Friday the 13th at 4pm GMT.
Console has ms28 flashed with 1.61 3weeks ago.
And a hacked hd 20GB to 120GB.
played forza3, lips no 1 hits, gta4 episodes of LC, after 1.61 flash
mastah
Post by: kmvguy83 on November 15, 2009, 05:19:00 AM
i wrote 2 pages ago i was fine with 1.51 Hitachi, as of today, November 15, 2009 IM BANNED. LOL
oh well, fun while it lasted but ill still be playing offline.
it's too bad i cant install disc on HD anymore, i have to hear this jet engine roaring.. lol
does anybody know what happens to HD? does it get corrupted? i cant move it to non-banned system?
Post by: robe36 on November 15, 2009, 06:01:00 AM
Post by: kaner74 on November 15, 2009, 07:50:00 AM
QUOTE(kmvguy83 @ Nov 15 2009, 01:19 PM)
i spoke too soon, LOL
i wrote 2 pages ago i was fine with 1.51 Hitachi, as of today, November 15, 2009 IM BANNED. LOL
oh well, fun while it lasted but ill still be playing offline.
it's too bad i cant install disc on HD anymore, i have to hear this jet engine roaring.. lol
does anybody know what happens to HD? does it get corrupted? i cant move it to non-banned system?
yeah it will be corrupted everytime u put it on an unbanned console..
you can solve the problem by reading this tutorial.. hope it helps !!
http://xbox360iso.co...ad.php?t=133847
Post by: Lisa Bonami on November 15, 2009, 09:22:00 AM
QUOTE(jhughes2466 @ Nov 14 2009, 10:08 PM)
Go to your settings and select the test connection to xbox live, that will let you know if your banned or not and it won't mess up your HDD.
If you've already been banned it will pop up and say your banned, if you haven't but your flagged on your Z: line the last 4 will be 190D. If the last 4 says that then your flagged to be banned, go ahead and start looking for a new box.
Here is the youtube video showing the xbox live test...
I thought that just running this Network Test will still corrupt your HDD if your Banned or due to be banned
Is that not true?.....I'd love to know this
Post by: rafazed on November 15, 2009, 09:30:00 AM
>Benq
>iExtreme 1.4
>Never played before release
>Never played wave 4 games
After reading a lot of comments it seems that M$ found a way to detect if the firmware is the original or not. If you modified your firmware, it doesn't matter if you disconnect from live and connect in 1 month, you still will get banned. It seems that the wave will finish on 17 Nov, after that date i would like to know if someone survived.
Post by: dalilama on November 15, 2009, 10:01:00 AM
Post by: canad on November 15, 2009, 10:24:00 AM
Post by: Darkknight1201 on November 15, 2009, 11:48:00 AM
hitatchi ixtreme 1.5
never played pre launch
never played wave 4
heck i played a backup of batman arkham asylum when it first came out. I have not played a backup since. I have been playing fallout 3 for the past month but thats an original disc. batman was verified with abgx360 and i was using verbatum 2.4x. Microsoft either has a way of seeing the firmware or they nailed me for the 250gb hard drive mod. Has anyone been banned since a 250gb upgrade? I doubt that Microsoft would nail people for the hard drive since you could buy it at a flea market and not know any better. They probably found a way to see the firmware.
Post by: rafazed on November 15, 2009, 12:02:00 PM
M$ registers your serial number when you are banned, you can change it by buying a new motherboard (about $30 in ebay) going to a 3rd party technician and asking him to change your motherboard (about $10). And thats it!
Also if you don't want to get banned again you could go to a 3rd party technician and ask him to restore the firmware to the original. That would make your console only read original games.
Total you will pay like $50
Post by: mac_aaron on November 15, 2009, 02:08:00 PM
- Can I get a ban if I do not have Live account? i.e. plugging net cable in if a new game needs update prior to playing, or having it connected to the net just to play via system link (local network @ student dorm)
Post by: KanadaKid on November 15, 2009, 10:56:00 PM
Lite-On 1.6 and I was in the preview program for the dash update
Post by: kmvguy83 on November 16, 2009, 07:03:00 AM
QUOTE([email protected] @ Nov 15 2009, 02:07 PM)
Why are people still stupid enough to go on live? The firmware is DETECTABLE with the new update.
Live = Ban
Well, I'm sure some of us are like me.
I like taking risks, LOL
and i've been doing this for over 2 years, even though im caught i actually think i got my moneys worth for the time being.
gotta get another and mod it when the new solution arrives, hopefully it'll last me another 2 years or more
we need new poll, seems like alot people voted NOT BANNED got BANNED, including myself.
Post by: Splendidus on November 16, 2009, 11:21:00 AM
Xbox elite. Falcon board, Lite-On, ix 1.6
Post by: newboxflash on November 16, 2009, 01:50:00 PM
Post by: spiree on November 16, 2009, 02:42:00 PM
think ms was busy flagging al the flashed console for some time now till the had them all and then began ban waves If they were to begin bans directly the word wil spreak quick and every one would'nt connect to live and they would'nt have so much bans so i think the sollution don't go on xbox live doesn't affect any thing your console is already on the ban list I guess now busy getting xboxconnect to work
so i still can play online with my friends
Post by: ViperNeo on November 16, 2009, 03:41:00 PM
Post by: sodadsmc on November 16, 2009, 04:41:00 PM
Lite-on 1.6
Jasper Mainboard
Never turned Xbox on without DVD-ROM drive attached
No MW2
No Pre-release games
Singapore Verbatim only
All self made backup (except fallout 3 broken steel expansion)
All fixed with agbx360
Played borderlands (offline)
Signed into live with no disc in drive to play netflix got banned.
Post by: muffme on November 17, 2009, 12:53:00 AM
QUOTE(iateshaggy @ Nov 6 2009, 04:52 AM)
first up. i have a banned benny. i guess no sammys yet cuz they suck and most have died of old age. wonder why the same hasn't happened for craptachis.
i just dont get it we are aloud a back up copy of every game you buy but to play ur back up copy you need a modded xbox so why is m/s banning modded xboxs when it states in every game you buy that we can copy a game for a back up in case ur real game gets broke or sumit
Post by: Ntinsky on November 17, 2009, 03:58:00 AM
Last week i flashed my BenQ drive with ix 1.6.1
Last Friday also, after watching the end credits of Modern Warfare 2, i signed in to XBL to apply the latest update for Operation FLashpoint and................SURPRISE
I got the Terms Of Violation notice.
So what do i do?I guess i am staring at the sun thinking of my 300e i spend for that console.
I would be happy if i could recover the previous state of my console, so i can install to hard drive or use the Media Center application so i don't have to watch movies on my pc.
Anyway, i just wanted to say it to someone since there is no way back for the BAN
You people be careful.They are still banning.November is a tough month for Xbox users.
I hope they find a way soon to unban the console or at least re-enable the features that the ban disables(and i don't mean "be able to sign in XBL")
Cheers
Post by: slimdagreat on November 17, 2009, 06:51:00 AM
QUOTE(kmvguy83 @ Nov 16 2009, 09:03 AM)
Well, I'm sure some of us are like me.
I like taking risks, LOL
and i've been doing this for over 2 years, even though im caught i actually think i got my moneys worth for the time being.
gotta get another and mod it when the new solution arrives, hopefully it'll last me another 2 years or more
we need new poll, seems like alot people voted NOT BANNED got BANNED, including myself.
I agree. I got banned during the last wave as well, all you can do is wait till its over and re-up.
I was able to sell my old banned console and buy an unmodded, working console for the exact same price, mod it myself, and...........voila! I'm back on Live for another year.
But now I think this is it for me, I think I'm doing what I really wanted to do in the 1st place and go back to Sony
Post by: spiree on November 17, 2009, 08:21:00 AM
QUOTE(slimdagreat @ Nov 17 2009, 02:51 PM)
But now I think this is it for me, I think I'm doing what I really wanted to do in the 1st place and go back to Sony
I'm getting that urge 2
My dad wants my xbox think i'll get me an ps3 if i am gonna spend an other load of money i might aswel get some cool new features like blueray and streaming video from the pc without lag
Post by: Jaymoon on November 17, 2009, 01:16:00 PM
What I have for a setup now, is the banned console for playing anything for goof-off or system link purposes.
I have my modded BenQ Elite that I use for stealthed Wave3 and earlier games. I have the ethernet cable plugged in for system link, but in the Family Settings, I've block Xbox Live myself so that it won't ever connect.
Then I have my MW2 360 that will never be modified, and will only play legit games online (the rare occasions I actually do play online).
So I'm good, as long as I sign in on the unbanned Elite, play my "safe" backups with my profile on my memory card, then move it over to the unmodified console for achievement/profile updating.
I just hope in the future Microsoft doesn't attach something to your profile that looks for modified offline consoles.
Post by: cjohnson419 on November 17, 2009, 04:00:00 PM
QUOTE(pada123 @ Nov 11 2009, 12:04 PM)
Well I think its pretty obvious that the latest dashboard update (wave4)...detects modified fw right away when u connect to live...doesnt matter what u do.....your fw squeels on you....and then u get banned.....
Not true.. I have a modded box with 1.6 and never played a backup game on XBL with it. It's been on every day for a month. Not banned. And until it is it will be hard for me believe its related to FW detection.
Post by: cjohnson419 on November 17, 2009, 04:27:00 PM
QUOTE(ozman911 @ Nov 11 2009, 01:41 PM)
1) I pay the monthly live subscription faithfully.
2) I use the console mainly for movies and such.
3) If I have to pay $60 to try a game and decided I dont like it... Not gonna happen.
So my thinking is this... Christmas time, PS3 price drop, No subscription fee for PS3 internet (as far as I knows), PS3 plays movies, is more stable, and roughly the same price for games etc.
The ONLY reason I have not bought a PS3 and stayed with the 360 is cause I could mod it.
So if this goes away I belive I will be buying a PS3 soon and Canceling my XBOX Live membership.
I know that we need to buy the games to support the game makers and I do buy the ones I like. But looking at this from MS stand point if all of the 1,000,000 supposed banned consoles have the same line of thinking as me, thats roughly $8,000,000 lost PER month!
Doesnt make alot of sense if you think about it. One, if you pay $8 a month for xbl you get a MUCH better online gaming experience than the PS3 one. There IS a reason PS3 network is free (its sucks on matchmaking and chat)
Secondly...if the only reason is you stayed with 360 is bc you can mod it, then M$ is not making money on you... yes on XBL, but you mod for what reason? to save money on games? then developers lose, hence M$ loses... whats the point? PS3 and Xbox 360 are 2 different systems. One costs monthly fees, the other is harder to mod.. pick your poison.
QUOTE(meiso @ Nov 11 2009, 05:25 PM)
I got banned but I don't care. I also can't play Modern Warfare 2 because I have the 1.6 firmware and I don't want to use that god-damn activation.iso every time I play something, but I don't care about that either.
I'm just going to use my 360 as a doorstop now. It was nice while it lasted but Microsoft won this battle. They haven't won the war though because I've pirated the shit out of most of their other stuff.
I like this guy!!!
QUOTE(gr33nsauce @ Nov 11 2009, 11:47 PM)
so...I don't have a modded 360 (firmware chipset or whatever people do) I just got the Rrod on my console while I was playing Mw2 (no more warranty plus upset) anyways so I researched and did the x clamp removal so now my console gets banned for what me not plugging in the dvd drive while i let the thermal paste get hot? If so then why is Microsoft banning me because I decided to fix something that should have not been present in the first place?
if that really is the case.. then this itself answers the burning quetstion of HOW?
Post by: Kaisonic on November 17, 2009, 06:32:00 PM
A) Having your DVD drive disconnected while the 360 is on does not get you banned.
OR
The network test trick doesn't work / the flagging is not immediate.
Post by: pada123 on November 18, 2009, 05:58:00 AM
Post by: schydigga on November 18, 2009, 06:58:00 AM
Post by: BrockSamson on November 18, 2009, 09:30:00 PM
Post by: kaosstar on November 18, 2009, 10:13:00 PM
Might have to try the ol' Walmart switcharoo.
Furthermore, I really regret buying an Xbox now. My next console will be a PS4 I'm guessing.
Post by: pcton on November 19, 2009, 03:55:00 PM
What if original game disk has secure sector AND incorrect ss.bin on it.
Will ixtreme offer that incorrect ss and original fw do what it should do?
Where all banned users running original disks too?
Post by: Wobbly Plague on November 19, 2009, 05:01:00 PM
QUOTE(schydigga @ Nov 19 2009, 12:58 AM)
So it seems now that the ban is slowing down. I havent been banned yet and People who have modded after the launch of MW2 havent reported any new bans. Has anyone been banned with a console that was modified AFTER the start of the ban?
Yeah, that is what I'm interested in. Someone I know of had theirs flashed on 8th November (sunday before MW2 launch), been using activate iso everyday online and slipped through. Anyone else know of similar circumstances?
Post by: muffme on November 19, 2009, 05:06:00 PM
QUOTE(pcton @ Nov 20 2009, 12:55 AM)
I have a theory...
What if original game disk has secure sector AND incorrect ss.bin on it.
Will ixtreme offer that incorrect ss and original fw do what it should do?
Where all banned users running original disks too?
well i know a few peeps that were banned when they where playing the new mw2 back ups
plus i know a few who where banned playing rainbow six vagas 2 original disks but i never got banned that way i just turned on my xbox then i got banned no game in or anything the last game i played be4 that was mw2 original disk hope this helps m8 will ask all the guys i know thats banned and will report back
Post by: Wobbly Plague on November 19, 2009, 07:59:00 PM
QUOTE(muffme @ Nov 20 2009, 11:06 AM)
well i know a few peeps that were banned when they where playing the new mw2 back ups
plus i know a few who where banned playing rainbow six vagas 2 original disks but i never got banned that way i just turned on my xbox then i got banned no game in or anything the last game i played be4 that was mw2 original disk hope this helps m8 will ask all the guys i know thats banned and will report back
That's because we can be pretty sure they are detecting firmware not bad rips. when did they have theirs flashed? After ban wave started?
Like I said I know of 1 guy who isn't banned... yet. He has had his flashed for two weeks on sunday, anyone else know of anyone with a recently (last two weeks) flashed console? Are they banned?
Post by: muffme on November 19, 2009, 08:10:00 PM
QUOTE(Wobbly Plague @ Nov 20 2009, 04:59 AM)
That's because we can be pretty sure they are detecting firmware not bad rips. when did they have theirs flashed? After ban wave started?
Like I said I know of 1 guy who isn't banned... yet. He has had his flashed for two weeks on sunday, anyone else know of anyone with a recently (last two weeks) flashed console? Are they banned?
all of us had our boxs flashed b4 mw2 came out as far as i know will ask an report back any info to you l8r
Post by: BrockSamson on November 20, 2009, 10:04:00 AM
Post by: JesseWHHS on November 21, 2009, 01:45:00 PM
I've been running the 1.51 flash on my samsung drive. When flashed it was not using the xbox power supply.
The only games that I played that were burnt were all fairly old. No wave 4. The newest game was COD: WAW.
Hope my info will help find the reason for the bans!
edit: I was lazy and had a local guy flash my xbox. He pulled the drive and used the connectivity kit. Then he put it all back in, fired it up, but FORGOT to hookup the DVD power cable...... Maybe this is the culprit? If so do you think I'm entitles to a refund? lmao
Post by: sexybeast099 on November 21, 2009, 08:06:00 PM
QUOTE(tripaschief @ Nov 6 2009, 10:25 AM)
Danm it !!! Its plany valid True... you dont have to worry if you have modified firmware but play games on live with auto fix 3 abgx360gui, its PROVED !!! MODIFIED GAMES BAN FROM THE LIVE not the firmware hack... 'im safe for now only Auto fixed 3 games and some originals... and no unreleased games in my 1.51 Lite-on drive...QUOTE(JesseWHHS @ Nov 6 2009, 10:25 AM)
So I turn my xbox on today, first time in about a week. I get the horrible prompt telling me that I violated their terms of service and my console is now banned.
I've been running the 1.51 flash on my samsung drive. When flashed it was not using the xbox power supply.
The only games that I played that were burnt were all fairly old. No wave 4. The newest game was COD: WAW.
Hope my info will help find the reason for the bans!
edit: I was lazy and had a local guy flash my xbox. He pulled the drive and used the connectivity kit. Then he put it all back in, fired it up, but FORGOT to hookup the DVD power cable...... Maybe this is the culprit? If so do you think I'm entitles to a refund? lmao
My Hitachi was banned and I'm running iXtreme 1.51 (the highest available for hitachi to my knowledge) with autofix level 3 on all the games I have and no games before they hit the stores. I was being extremely paranoid about not getting banned and when I was, I went into shock. Then I realized all of the down-sides to getting banned and wondered how Xbox Live was allowed to take away basic functionality of my hardware like that!
Now I'm done with live since my month-long subscription ran out and I don't have any plan to renew since I can't be on it anyway! It's still a great gaming utility, although greatly retarded now.
I'll be constantly scanning for ways to unban my 360 and if any legit research comes to fruition, I'll take back the functionality I paid for.
side note: none of my games were beyond wave 3, I quadruple-checked and it was just after playing a newly burned version of WET after autofix3-ing it that I got banned. I thought it was because of that but I guess I was mistaken...
Post by: audiolizard on November 22, 2009, 08:45:00 AM
Post by: en3myx0fxg0d on November 22, 2009, 09:17:00 AM
Post by: SiXeM on November 22, 2009, 03:31:00 PM
YetDrive :MS28
FW :Xtreme 4.2 (Older fw)
i don`t play games online , but do watch movies using zune
But My 360 never goes online unless i want to , i have manually configured my network
to always give my 360 a I.P number but left my dns to 0.0.0.0 unless i change this in my 360 only then it goes online ,
last played games
MW2
Assassins Creed 2
both played before launch date
Post by: jmc15john on November 23, 2009, 06:13:00 AM
Post by: JBmtk on November 23, 2009, 09:34:00 PM
QUOTE(gr33nsauce @ Nov 11 2009, 11:47 PM)
so...I don't have a modded 360 (firmware chipset or whatever people do) I just got the Rrod on my console while I was playing Mw2 (no more warranty plus upset) anyways so I researched and did the x clamp removal so now my console gets banned for what me not plugging in the dvd drive while i let the thermal paste get hot? If so then why is Microsoft banning me because I decided to fix something that should have not been present in the first place?
This is good information....
Post by: Eamon on November 25, 2009, 04:28:00 AM
c4eva practically admitted that MS has found a way to detect his ixtreme firmware. That's why he is making ixtreme Lite Touch and focusing on making it identical to original fw instead of security.
A nice feature about LT, is that it will run anything regardless of wave so no need to worry about reflashing every couple of months (probably). But the downside is that you will have to MAKE SURE your backups are verified and secure to play on XBL. I think splitvid is now required on every backup now.
Originally the past banwaves were due to bad burns or bad rips but this time, the firmware can now be detected.
Post by: gsharpshooter on November 25, 2009, 11:08:00 PM
ps @ jBmtk, ur sig had me on the floor lmfao srry just had 2 pt that out!
Post by: cjohnson419 on November 28, 2009, 01:22:00 AM
QUOTE(Eamon @ Nov 25 2009, 06:28 AM)
LOL, people are still speculating that bans are due to bad burns?
c4eva practically admitted that MS has found a way to detect his ixtreme firmware. That's why he is making ixtreme Lite Touch and focusing on making it identical to original fw instead of security.
A nice feature about LT, is that it will run anything regardless of wave so no need to worry about reflashing every couple of months (probably). But the downside is that you will have to MAKE SURE your backups are verified and secure to play on XBL. I think splitvid is now required on every backup now.
Originally the past banwaves were due to bad burns or bad rips but this time, the firmware can now be detected.
the firmware can be detected eh? NOPE...I dont think so. I have a box with 1.6 firmware that has been online on Xbox live EVERY DAY for the last month. It only had a burned game played once for 5 minutes to test the mod. And that was OFFLINE. It is not banned and therefore the firmware mod is NOT detectable.
My guess is that the newer games have something in the code that is not copyable and when you put the backup in the console it flags it, leading to a ban. Maybe a date code?
Post by: dokworm on November 28, 2009, 05:07:00 AM
QUOTE(cjohnson419 @ Nov 28 2009, 09:22 AM)
the firmware can be detected eh? NOPE...I dont think so. I have a box with 1.6 firmware that has been online on Xbox live EVERY DAY for the last month. It only had a burned game played once for 5 minutes to test the mod. And that was OFFLINE. It is not banned and therefore the firmware mod is NOT detectable.
My guess is that the newer games have something in the code that is not copyable and when you put the backup in the console it flags it, leading to a ban. Maybe a date code?
My Jasper got banned, I modded it and never had a backup in it. I did this to test if it could be detected, it lasted a week before being banned. I didn't use the 360 to power it when flashing the drive either. Lite-on drive.
If something is *not* banned, it proves nothing, it appears MS doesn't ban every console it can, but if one *is* banned then it shows what they are banning for. In this case, it isn't for playing backups, it isn't for powering up without the drive, it isn't for modding the fans, it isn't for playing bad rips. Somehow they detected the firmware even though *only* originals were ever in it. I have set up another 360 and modded it and have not put *any* discs in it at all, it so far has not been banned, but wether that is because they can't detect it or just haven't banned it, no-one can say at this stage.
QUOTE(PureNasty @ Nov 28 2009, 04:39 AM)
I just spoofed my samsung as BenQ and I might risk going online. Chance is I'll most likely get banned, but somewhere I read there was a fix to this. I don't know if this was a mith or not...hopefully not.
wish me luck!
No, if you are banned there is no way to unban the console, the best you can do is uncripple you HDD to allow games to be installed to it again.
Post by: moorebounce on November 29, 2009, 07:30:00 PM
Post by: daywalker1971 on December 01, 2009, 07:01:00 PM
Post by: pulsarnx on December 05, 2009, 08:22:00 PM
-xbox 360 elite from 2008ish.
-modded ix1.61 on benq va6038 drive
-never played a game on live
-only used live for rockband DLC and dashboard updates and only did DLC fro mthe marketplace and not "in-game", I also booted rockband 2 for a game update to use my ion rocker drums.
-I leave my ethernet disconnected when not getting DLC
-modded xbox with dvd drive disconnected from sata port on xbox motherboard, but used xbox power supply to power the xbox-to power the dvd drive
Xbox died RROD August 22, 2009, applied for 3 year warranty fix, recieved shipping label. Was working out of town and forgot to send it in.
October 15th-ish 2009 I baked the console and got it working again, this lasted 3 days. In this time I used live to do a rockband 2 game update. Only played offline, with ethernet unpluged. That was all. RROD shortly after, no indication of violation of terms of use.
November 20ish, 2009 Called in to get a new shipping label (old one expires after 30 days) and they informed me that my console was flagged as "tampered". They sent a request to the repair center for the reason, and I still havn't recieved a response. They said I may have to send pictures of the console to them before they will issue a new shipping label.
Can MS tell a moded console, If a game has never been played on live, just booted to recieve the game updates and dlc? I would guess so. Although MS told me my console is marked tampered not banned.
Ideas ?
Post by: Kaisonic on December 05, 2009, 11:58:00 PM