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Title: Have The Over Priced Xbox 360 Bundles ...
Post by: XanTium on September 22, 2005, 10:11:00 PM
feel free to vote/discuss!
Title: Have The Over Priced Xbox 360 Bundles ...
Post by: jherre6 on September 22, 2005, 10:31:00 PM
QUOTE(XanTium @ Sep 23 2005, 06:22 AM)
feel free to vote/discuss!
Title: Have The Over Priced Xbox 360 Bundles ...
Post by: xboxSlayer on September 22, 2005, 11:52:00 PM
I've been in the game a long time, $500 is still a lot, same as when a few others came out. I still got them because I'm a cronic, I have to have my games.
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Post by: DivyX on September 23, 2005, 01:22:00 AM
Little over 400 eur isn't bad at all imo. I think it's basicly very cheap, and money doesn't grow on trees in my garden since i'm unemployed. I was thinking about getting new computer or xbox360. I choose xbox360 because i have to face the fact that the thing i'm really paying in new computer is the fact that i can and want to be able play latest and upcoming games. Given x360's hardware i'm very pleased for the price tag it has.
I checked one Finnish gaming site that listed some games to cost 69,- Eur and couple was also 79,- eur. I'd say that is VERY expensive. Games should be much cheaper and I trust that the prices i saw ain't gonna be final. Only morrowind is worth 69,- if it has well over 100 gaming houers.
Title: Have The Over Priced Xbox 360 Bundles ...
Post by: wadata04 on September 23, 2005, 02:22:00 AM
I think that the prices are over-priced and I will be waiting longer for the price to come down.
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Post by: eDeus on September 23, 2005, 03:24:00 AM
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Post by: JUANVAN on September 23, 2005, 06:41:00 AM
I would have to agree - that by making the prem. package the Only one in Japan and Cheaper is B.S. - But they know we are going to be getting them like crazy till the xmass season, and we are more then willing to pay the price, while in J.P. they are trying to win the market still and get more in the houses.

Also Just offering the one with the HD would have been Great..
350 for the Core system + a HD
400 Prem..
Or just get rid of the Core all together, would have made the game developers much happier too...
But I am sure there will be some games that have something on the back that they require the HD...

that’s my .02c

btw M$ Is only doing all this b/c the Evil Empire CAN!!
Title: Have The Over Priced Xbox 360 Bundles ...
Post by: rainfever on September 23, 2005, 08:30:00 AM
I voted No, simply because i do not plan to pre-order, and i just want to walk into wal-mart or where ever and pick up my single xbox 360 Platinum...all on its lonesome
Title: Have The Over Priced Xbox 360 Bundles ...
Post by: lordvader129 on September 23, 2005, 09:29:00 AM
i think all those huge super bundles gamestop is selling is really funny, its not even any kind of bundled value, the price of th ebundle is just retail for each peice added up, you cna buy it all over the course of 3 months and pay the same, probably less as sure some of those games will flop and the price will drop quickly

...although i still find myself eyeballing the 700 dollar pack just becuase its what i would probably buy within the first few weeks anyway
Title: Have The Over Priced Xbox 360 Bundles ...
Post by: C o s m o on September 23, 2005, 10:48:00 AM
The $400 tag is fine.  The bundles are a joke.
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Post by: Rubix42 on September 23, 2005, 10:55:00 AM
I'm having a real hard time buying into the hype on this next-gen release.  Granted the graphics are going to be much better, but the price of games going up, and paying $100 for a 40gb HD is just silly.  The system is priced well, but the accessories are way too much.

Especially the $100 for the wireless adapter!  My PSP has wireless and the entirew system was only $250
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Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on September 23, 2005, 11:24:00 AM
only condition ill get xbox 360 is if i get 200 bucks for my extra softmodded xbox... then its justified... but in all honesty... i dont think its going to be that great... i mean... there are only half a dozen or so good games for xbox 1, single player that is... and another half dozen good live games... which is fine for $150 system... but xbox 360 has yet to super impress me, at least enough to warrant a 400 dollar purchase... with tax and a game... $500... lot of cash.
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Post by: Owtlaw333 on September 23, 2005, 11:27:00 AM
I think I'll just go to Costco and get whatever bundle THEY end up with... they usually charge like 75 bucks more and throw in an extra game and controller.  I'd be content with that.
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Post by: Brouhaha on September 23, 2005, 12:47:00 PM
That horsepower BS has really started to annoy me.  Basically, we can chose from many overpriced bundles, all which offer nothing more than better graphics over current gen.

My current Xbox will remain in the living room for a few more years (thanks to XBMC, not gaming), with a revolution at it's side in due time...
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Post by: pookiepoo on September 23, 2005, 01:07:00 PM
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wait a little bit and it drops down in price...

wait a little bit longer it drops down in price dramatically, some one has found a way to mod it so it can be used to its full potential.

even if it cant be modded all the console vetrans should know it always drops down in price rotfl.gif

there should be a standard package which is at a reasonable price not a price your gonna feel pissed about payin a couple of months down the line.

ive been around consoles my whole life first one nes and im 19 so i am a fully pledged player but i dont believe that i should be conned out of money to do something i enjoy. and ms is a blatent con.

but they do make a wicked console though cool.gif  beerchug.gif

great graphics, excellent online gaming and they are very inventive (soundtracks)



Title: Have The Over Priced Xbox 360 Bundles ...
Post by: halofreak007 on September 23, 2005, 01:34:00 PM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Sep 23 2005, 11:40 AM)
i think all those huge super bundles gamestop is selling is really funny, its not even any kind of bundled value, the price of th ebundle is just retail for each peice added up, you cna buy it all over the course of 3 months and pay the same, probably less as sure some of those games will flop and the price will drop quickly
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Post by: simbot82 on September 23, 2005, 06:34:00 PM
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Post by: xboxmodder4life on September 23, 2005, 06:41:00 PM
QUOTE(pookiepoo @ Sep 23 2005, 03:18 PM)
y buy a 360 for £300 dat ude havta buy a bleedin remote to watch dvds f*@k Dat
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Post by: Reaper527 on September 23, 2005, 07:12:00 PM
the bundles didn't "spoil" my enthusiasm, however i'm just planning on getting the premium pack and making my own bundle so to speak. i preordered perfect dark zero, madden 06, and doa4 back in the end of may at my local gamestop. i personally think 400 might seem a bit steep, but if you look at it, its a pretty good deal
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Post by: mckenn88 on September 23, 2005, 08:16:00 PM
i saw somewhere where it showed all of the opening prices of all of the video game consoles ever made and relatively the xbox360 has been one of the cheapest, but i still think it should be lower
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Post by: Owtlaw333 on September 24, 2005, 12:12:00 AM
It's called inflation.... shit happens, lol.  400 REALLY isn't that bad.  PS2 and xbox were what, 300? when they first came out.... and so was PS1 wasn't it?  So by todays standards, 400 seems right to me.  You definately get a shit load more than what you did with that PS1 too (a controller and a console..... oh wait, sounds like the core pack, haha)
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Post by: Owtlaw333 on September 24, 2005, 01:32:00 AM
QUOTE(will1384 @ Sep 23 2005, 11:04 PM)
for that price it should give me som "love me long time" wub.gif
Title: Have The Over Priced Xbox 360 Bundles ...
Post by: tharien on September 24, 2005, 09:19:00 AM
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I have been saving some cash from the Xboxes I've been modding, but thats going toward a beefier PC. Its a pretty much guarantee that ill be playing most of the games slated for the 360 on my PC anyhow, aside from a very select few such as Halo3. I'll wait a year for the bundle to come down in price, and they have the library of games that draws my attention, ill buy in. If not, i will eventually get one, in the same way i collect all other platforms, when i can buy it in a pawn shop for $50.
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Post by: Keva on September 24, 2005, 10:26:00 AM
QUOTE(pookiepoo @ Sep 23 2005, 08:18 PM)
no way im i buyin 1 yet im in da uk shits always ova priced im waitin till it drops in price plus i like the idea of saving games 2 my hd on da 1st xbox. it  saves a lot of space i can just put my games in a cupboard and ders no way ms is gonna make this option available on da 360.

my xbox can play all region dvds without the remote and shit



talk in english this isnt a text service
Title: Have The Over Priced Xbox 360 Bundles ...
Post by: Master X on September 24, 2005, 11:14:00 AM
400$ is fine for me, but the 2000$ bundles.... that is just simply retarded.
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Post by: djbullfrog on September 24, 2005, 12:26:00 PM
I'm gonna take mine from the weakest kid on the playground. So, I hope they get the million dollar bundle. I hate having to upgrade shit I took. I'm kidding, I only weigh 90 pounds (soaking wet, wearing your mother's combat boots). I'm just gonna wait it out a little. Unless my compulsive buying habits throw me in the mix at the quadrillion dollar price point.
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Post by: CattyKid on September 24, 2005, 01:31:00 PM
Nothing at all can sour my enthusiasm, in the slightest bit.
Title: Have The Over Priced Xbox 360 Bundles ...
Post by: Er0cK_11 on September 25, 2005, 11:30:00 AM
Ill prolly wait a couple months b4 buying one.
Title: Have The Over Priced Xbox 360 Bundles ...
Post by: whosyodaddy1019 on September 25, 2005, 12:21:00 PM
I think most people are having a hard time understanding this poll. Its not about the price of the xbox360, its the fact that you HAVE to by like 2 games and 2 acc with it. I was pissed when I went into EB games to verify my order this friday. I had the premium package with another wireless controller and ghost recon 3 with it and they said that I need to fork out more dough for another game and accesory. Now the bill is up to 620 bucks. When I put my 360 on reseave when they first started to do it they never once mentioned that I would have to buy a bundle to get it. Even 2 weeks ago when I put the controller and GR3 they never mentioned that to me. What I though was funny was the excuss they gave me for having to buy more. They said it was to prevent me from selling it on ebay. How the h3ll is buying more sh!t for it suppost to stop someone from selling it on ebay. It just means they sell it for more. Besides why do they care if the person sells it on ebay or not. They got there money non the less. Im not selling mine but i dont like being forced to buy more stuff then I wanted to.
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Post by: bucko on September 25, 2005, 07:11:00 PM
Ill wait till it's £99 and I have a hdtv
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Post by: 0794 on September 25, 2005, 08:26:00 PM
Yes, the bundles have been embarrassing - but expected.  It does increase the hype and gain more attention, which is necessary for MS to have a chance against Sony.

However, I don't plan on buying an Xbox 360 until it can be modified or unlocked to do more than just play next-gen games and DVD movies.  I am absolutely satisfied with my several xbox's used as home theater pcs throughout my home.  And of course, my stock xbox for Halo 2 gaming.  Now the release of Halo 3 may entice me to get a 360...
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Post by: leijae on September 26, 2005, 02:54:00 AM
dude, i'm buying like six of those bundles....
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Post by: Videogamebuyer14 on September 26, 2005, 06:07:00 AM
The core bundle is essentially a very smart move on MS's part. Anyone in the know-how has already reserved the Premium bundle. The core bundle is going to be the one for the holiday that's left for preordering at the video game stores, and the parents are going to figure the kids will bitch if they don't get it, so they dish out an extra 300 or so on extra stuff to suit the half-assed package.
Title: Have The Over Priced Xbox 360 Bundles ...
Post by: Dan Wysocki on September 26, 2005, 07:31:00 AM
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Post by: Burgleflickle on September 26, 2005, 02:54:00 PM
I realize that m$ is losing money on selling these consoles, but $400+(premium bundle w/o extra controllers) is rediculous. I'll be waiting until prices come down to at least $300, or homebrews/cracks break it. MS already runs the world with wxp/2k/whatever else--I don't need to line old Bill's pockets with extra $$. After all, he makes a killing on games, and his company was founded on stealing Steve Jobs' ideas.

Don't get me wrong, I love XB, and the theory of what xb360 will be, but spending damn near $1000(gamestop bundles) on a game system and games is stupid--after all, I have a modded xb!!! Remember the hype, and slight let down of halo 2??? We don't even know for sure whether or not the machine will be bottlenecked by not having hd-dvd.

Just my $0.02. Take it easy!
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Post by: Exobex on September 26, 2005, 03:48:00 PM
QUOTE(pookiepoo @ Sep 23 2005, 08:18 PM)
no way im i buyin 1 yet im in da uk shits always ova priced im waitin till it drops in price plus i like the idea of saving games 2 my hd on da 1st xbox. it  saves a lot of space i can just put my games in a cupboard and ders no way ms is gonna make this option available on da 360.
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Post by: edwinmcdunlap on September 26, 2005, 06:19:00 PM
I think the huge bundles are just crazy... 400 is almost too much for me, but I'm going to get it anyway.
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Post by: syntaxerror329 on September 26, 2005, 07:28:00 PM
I think $500 is a deal. Don't they lose money on every system they sell at that price and then hope to make it up in game sales?

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Post by: Master X on September 26, 2005, 08:42:00 PM
QUOTE(bucko @ Sep 25 2005, 11:22 PM)
Ill wait till it's £99 and I have a hdtv
Title: Have The Over Priced Xbox 360 Bundles ...
Post by: dalezer on September 26, 2005, 09:34:00 PM
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Title: Have The Over Priced Xbox 360 Bundles ...
Post by: Owtlaw333 on September 26, 2005, 11:39:00 PM
QUOTE(cRACKmONKEY421 @ Sep 26 2005, 09:04 PM)
It is overpriced and I am sour.  What MS does not seem to understand is that the Japanese care mostly about having the newest gadgets - not just great graphics, but great graphics with bells and whistles.  If they wanted to do well in Japan, gotta add a standard HD or blu-ray reader, gigabit lan, and 1080P.  Sony knows how to sell to their people.  MS should at least work on keeping its American crowd.  However, my American ass is put off by MS's marketing and pricing like many Americans.  I'm a big xbox fan.  PS2 specs can't compare with original xbox specs.  That's not at all the case between this next generation of consoles.  I will equally consider the PS3 and xbox 360 specs and price (and the way its going PS3 will probably win) a while after launch; eventually I will buy one.  Being an xbox fan, if the 360 were $300-350 for a premium system there is a good chance I wouldn't be able to wait out the war.  Time will tell which the best buy, and the modding capabilities will have a huge effect on my choice.  I feel more like they stripped stuff from what should be a base xbox 360 to make a "core" system rather than adding stuff to create a premium system; then they raised the price of what should be the standard 360.
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Post by: StepsAscend on September 27, 2005, 03:40:00 PM
I dont care how awesome the system is gonna be, I'm not paying 400 for it.  Screw the damn thing.  When it drops to 250 after a couple of years I'll buy it, or when Smartxx releases their chip for it.
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Post by: cRACKmONKEY421 on September 27, 2005, 08:39:00 PM
MS looses money on every console sold at launch.  From that point of view it can't be overpriced.  However, at launch we don't get to use the full potential of the machine; that is until game developers figure out how to take full advantage of it.  It seems to me that nobody wins until a while after launch.  By the time games start really taking full advantage of the console, hopefully the price will be reasonable to everyone.  That is when to buy.  Unless, of course, you can easily afford it or don't mind working hard for a console that software may or may not be able to take advantage of.  I work hard for my money, quite a bit harder than nagging my parents would be.
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Post by: cRACKmONKEY421 on September 27, 2005, 08:45:00 PM
QUOTE(Owtlaw333 @ Sep 27 2005, 07:50 AM)
It's gas that I'm pissed about, haha.  (even though the Europeans have it worse)
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Post by: xsnoopyx on September 28, 2005, 09:59:00 PM
whats the point of the core?? half of us will buy premium anyways
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Post by: Owtlaw333 on September 29, 2005, 10:00:00 AM
QUOTE(xsnoopyx @ Sep 28 2005, 08:10 PM)
whats the point of the core?? half of us will buy premium anyways
Title: Have The Over Priced Xbox 360 Bundles ...
Post by: Burgleflickle on September 29, 2005, 10:51:00 AM
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Post by: Owtlaw333 on September 29, 2005, 12:00:00 PM
QUOTE(Burgleflickle @ Sep 29 2005, 09:02 AM)
Do you guys even know specifically what the premium pack does? It seems like you're hype mongering. No one knows for sure what will be sold. Have patience, see what the gamer's market brings, and make a real decision. Guessing is just stupid at this point.
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Post by: jayda on September 29, 2005, 05:58:00 PM
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lol StepsAscend i have mates like that too hehe i may have said that to the ps2 and xbox when they were released but not for the 360. the games on release are worth actualy paying full price, But than again i got all excited and bought the ps2 the day it came out. but not the xbox ( i guess i didnt know too mutch about it )but now the 360 has got me in.
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Post by: Burgleflickle on September 29, 2005, 06:30:00 PM
QUOTE(Owtlaw333 @ Sep 29 2005, 08:11 PM)
Yes we all know what the premium pack does... there isn't anymore speculation becuase it's all out in the open.  And who's ripping on people who can't afford it?  All I'm saying is, juss cuz somone can't afford something, doesn't make it over-priced.  People need ta quit bitching about how much it costs and start bitching about more important things, like how there's two packs! lol
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Post by: Syntax010 on September 29, 2005, 10:34:00 PM
I think the $400 is rediculous. Granted, a PC won't currently really at all play commercial original X-Box games....and a emulator for PC to play 360 games is wayyyyyy off....but I mean good grief......for $400 you could buy a new PC that would have twice the hardware power that the 360 is going to ship with.

It really makes me miss the days of the old Nintendo/Sega wars when you could go out and get a full system, with TWO gamepads included, plus a bundle of 2 or 3 free games in the package.

Video game companies are really sad to me in their behavior. They know its a big market, so they are milking gamers for all they are worth. I mean really, buy the system, then buy an extra gamepad, then buy a memory card or two, then buy special wiring adapters for your home theatre, then buy the DVD remote kit, then FINALLY buy actual games......it's insane.

I for one, will NOT be buying a 360 or a PS3 or a Revolution, until they are out long enough to be as cheap as X-Box/PS2's are now. I realize that will be a long wait, but gamers really need to start standing up to this insanity and refusing to pay such outrageously high prices. We need to send a message to MS, Sony and Nintendo that we refuse to be abused like this. All it is, is nothing more than price gouging to take advantage of holiday sales.

Sadly, it's something that nearly every company does. What most people don't realize is a lot of these so-called BIG holiday promotions or sales, aren't really saving them anything. Most big stores will go out on their sales floor and mark everything up 25% for every 50% discount that they advertise over the holidays, or something quite similar. I do all my Christmas shopping during the first few weeks AFTER christmas. Why? Because that is when all the stores make huge markdowns to get rid of their extra inventory.

Trust me, if M$ were to suffer a huge defeat over the holidays, i.e. selling 50% or fewer 360 systems than they expect to sell, you'd see the price of the "premium" package drop to less than the current projected retail of the basic system.
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Post by: Owtlaw333 on September 29, 2005, 11:10:00 PM
QUOTE(Burgleflickle @ Sep 29 2005, 04:41 PM)
Okay, since you're the genius, tell me about everything the premium pack does. How does this compare to ps3's options? Specifically, what features does the software have???? Until it comes out, we won't know the real comparison.
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Post by: jimk72 on September 30, 2005, 04:05:00 PM
I don't understand why so many of you think this is over priced! Every game system for the past 2 gen. has launched at around 400USD Thats what I payed for my PS1 and my Xbox. If you think its not worth it wait and then buy it when it comes down. MS has pushed alot of things that we would still not have if they never got into gaming. I am not a huge fan of MS but I used to use PCs before windows and played games before game systems! The 360 offers so much power and effects that once you start seeing the games first hand on a HDef screen you will see it is a good deal! If not then wait and the price will come down!


-----I think the $400 is rediculous. Granted, a PC won't currently really at all play commercial original X-Box games....and a emulator for PC to play 360 games is wayyyyyy off....but I mean good grief......for $400 you could buy a new PC that would have twice the hardware power that the 360 is going to ship with.

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Are you even a gamer? A new video card(just the video card!) for a PC to play the newer games will run you $300-$400USD just for the card. The xbox 360 system would compare more towards an Alienware system around $2300USD. As you can see you could upgrade your PC to play the new games for $300(video card)+$120(motherboard)+$220(processor)+$500(large display monitor) $120(DTS, AC3 sound card). so that will be around $1160 just to upgrade a pc to be even close to a xbox 360.

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Post by: Owtlaw333 on October 01, 2005, 10:09:00 AM
Just as a side note, and a lil more on-topic.... juss pre-ordered the bundle that Costco is offering (although I no longer see it posted on their site).  Premium Package with an extra wireless controller, charge kit, and PGR3 for $475.  The ONLY catch is that you pay shipping... no store pick-up.  Shipping was I think around 25 bucks.  Still a deal AND I don't have ta worry about finding a store that still has consoles available.
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Post by: XBL_SUCKS on October 02, 2005, 12:34:00 PM
Yeah they have at least for me. I don't want to spend extra money for crap I don't need. Gamestop.com has a 2000 bundle thats crazy. I wouldn't buy that and rumor is that M$ has a bundle with a 20 something inch LCD TV bundle thats over 4000 US
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Post by: Owtlaw333 on October 02, 2005, 06:45:00 PM
QUOTE(XBL_SUCKS @ Oct 2 2005, 10:45 AM)
Yeah they have at least for me. I don't want to spend extra money for crap I don't need. Gamestop.com has a 2000 bundle thats crazy. I wouldn't buy that and rumor is that M$ has a bundle with a 20 something inch LCD TV bundle thats over 4000 US
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Post by: blue bandicoot on October 31, 2005, 07:11:00 PM
id do it...anything for my 360!!!
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Post by: ChInEsE ChIcKeN on November 10, 2005, 08:58:00 PM
i have ot say 400 is a litle too much but form waa i can see all teh shit it can is is sort of reasonable
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Post by: INSANE GAME on March 07, 2006, 04:49:00 PM
I think the base price for the core and the premium isn't that bad.

Considering everything that can be done with it.
 
But the bundled packages for $800.00 and up are just not for me.
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Post by: pookiepoo on October 24, 2008, 02:56:00 AM
i know this is old but I did end up getting one (premium) for £120 with four games mwoahh ha ha ha.