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Title: Zeroize Hdd Key With Configmagic For Easy Swapping Of Hdd Or Hdd Upgra
Post by: shambles1980 on September 05, 2013, 04:09:00 PM
as stated in this thread you dont need to 0 your drive. just unlockit and then re lock it with the new xbox's eeprom.

and please make a new thread.
Title: Zeroize Hdd Key With Configmagic For Easy Swapping Of Hdd Or Hdd Upgra
Post by: RepCom1138 on September 30, 2013, 02:53:00 PM
I have an older 350 GB HDD from a previously purchased modded xbox.  This xbox died several years ago, but I pulled out the HDD.  Will I be able to zeroize this HDD and put it into a freshly modded xbox that I just recieved a few days ago?  I will be installing SID 5.1 on the new box first.  After that, I'm a little confused on what to do next?
Title: Zeroize Hdd Key With Configmagic For Easy Swapping Of Hdd Or Hdd Upgra
Post by: ldotsfan on April 29, 2009, 07:58:00 AM
One of xman954's posts gave me the idea. I have 2 xbox ver 1.1 softmodded with Kingroach Ndure and one chipped xbox 1.6. I want to be able to do hdd upgrades or swap hdd between the 3 xbox without messing with the eeproms. So I simply decided to zeroize the hdd key in the eeprom to 32 zeros on all 3 xbox. Here's the steps:

1. For softmods, disable virtual eeprom.
2. In ConfigMagic, press Start button and select unlock hdd.
3. Edit on the fly eeprom in ConfigMagic.
4. Zeroize hdd key to 32 zeros. 00000000000000000000000000000000
5. Select Update xbox eeprom option.
6. Load eeprom option in ConfigMagic.
7. Lock hdd option in ConfigMagic
Title: Zeroize Hdd Key With Configmagic For Easy Swapping Of Hdd Or Hdd Upgra
Post by: Bomb Bloke on April 29, 2009, 07:20:00 PM
Hmm. That's pretty clever... Would make life a heck of a lot easier for softmodders, come to think of it.  smile.gif
Title: Zeroize Hdd Key With Configmagic For Easy Swapping Of Hdd Or Hdd Upgra
Post by: Alex548 on April 29, 2009, 09:26:00 PM
I did similar back in the day with same version consoles in order to swap the hdd back & forth without hassles. That option wasn't available for people who used XBL on their xbox 1 though. It's a perfectly good option nowadays though since not many people are using their old console for XBL anymore.

Same with shadow partitions... a major part of it's use was to be able to use XBL on a softmod without being banned. Now it's nearly pointless to have a shadow partition so krayzie's UXE would be the way to go. . . unless you're the type of person who "accidentally" deletes their dashboard files.  tongue.gif
Title: Zeroize Hdd Key With Configmagic For Easy Swapping Of Hdd Or Hdd Upgra
Post by: ldotsfan on May 01, 2009, 09:16:00 PM
QUOTE(Bomb Bloke @ Apr 30 2009, 08:12 AM) View Post

Hmm. That's pretty clever... Would make life a heck of a lot easier for softmodders, come to think of it.  smile.gif

Eliminates the need to do an eeprom backup to the PC and has the added side benefit of locking the hdd to a known master password - TEAMASSEMBLY.
Title: Zeroize Hdd Key With Configmagic For Easy Swapping Of Hdd Or Hdd Upgra
Post by: xman954 on May 03, 2009, 08:40:00 PM
Nice, i often wondered if MS had any checksum on the HDD key and if you changed it to a non MS key it would give you a eeprom error (now we know)

also if you don't like all zero's use all "1-9" or "A-F" as long as you remember it

liveinfo can create a eeprom.bin for use with xboxHDM to enable locking and unlocking with just the "unique HDD Key" all other fields zero

Title: Zeroize Hdd Key With Configmagic For Easy Swapping Of Hdd Or Hdd Upgra
Post by: ldotsfan on May 04, 2009, 08:43:00 AM
QUOTE(xman954 @ May 4 2009, 09:32 AM) View Post

Nice, i often wondered if MS had any checksum on the HDD key and if you changed it to a non MS key it would give you a eeprom error (now we know)

Actually there is a checksum on the eeprom contents, ConfigMagic/LiveInfo takes care of the re-calculations - I peeped at its source code once  tongue.gif
Title: Zeroize Hdd Key With Configmagic For Easy Swapping Of Hdd Or Hdd Upgra
Post by: fithwum on May 09, 2009, 12:37:00 PM
does this work without causing problems?
Title: Zeroize Hdd Key With Configmagic For Easy Swapping Of Hdd Or Hdd Upgra
Post by: ldotsfan on May 09, 2009, 06:27:00 PM
I have done this procedure to my two 1.1 softmodded xbox and my chipped 1.6 using ConfigMagic Final, and they are all booting normally. I've also swapped the hdd successfully from one of the 1.1 to the 1.6.

But editing eeprom contents is always risky so I took the necessary precautions. I had backups of the unmodified eeproms on my PC (and elsewhere) and my eeprom reader (which was supposed to be a writer as well) handy as a hardware means of recovery in case things went wrong. If you have a modchip with 2 banks and one bank has a bios that works around eeprom errors, that will help to reduce the risk too.

I understand there is another version of the eeprom for xbox which is not covered by my scenario - if my memory is right:
a. 1.0-1.1
b. 1.2-1.5 (Not tested)
c. 1.6
Can somebody else confirm this - the different versions of eeprom?

I also couldn't find earlier references of somebody editing the hdd key to a non-MS value like all zeroes so there is risk in becoming a guinea pig but now you have my example to work from if you are keen and know the risks of bricking your xbox.
Title: Zeroize Hdd Key With Configmagic For Easy Swapping Of Hdd Or Hdd Upgra
Post by: Bomb Bloke on May 09, 2009, 07:30:00 PM
That's the list for which TSOPs match between systems. The EEPROM list is a little different.

http://wiki-scene.co...)#Compatibility
Title: Zeroize Hdd Key With Configmagic For Easy Swapping Of Hdd Or Hdd Upgra
Post by: fithwum on May 09, 2009, 10:49:00 PM
thx for the info i might try this on the next xbox that i get
Title: Zeroize Hdd Key With Configmagic For Easy Swapping Of Hdd Or Hdd Upgra
Post by: ldotsfan on August 13, 2009, 07:21:00 AM
QUOTE(legoman16497 @ Aug 13 2009, 04:27 PM) View Post

zeroize that with the method above. for my replacement hd, do i load up my modding cd in pc, and manually lock the new, already built hd with an all 0's key as well then boot xbox?

This method is meant for swapping of hdds between different xboxs. Your situation is different and basically just with the eeprom backup (now that virtual eeprom is off) and xboxhdm, locking the replacement hdd with the correct eeprom.bin will suffice.
Title: Zeroize Hdd Key With Configmagic For Easy Swapping Of Hdd Or Hdd Upgra
Post by: ldotsfan on August 15, 2009, 04:01:00 AM
QUOTE(legoman16497 @ Aug 14 2009, 12:23 PM) View Post

My intended task may have been for a different task, but it worked!

 rolleyes.gif Glad that things worked out for you. So you used xboxhdm with ab eeprom file with a zeroized hdd key in the end?
Title: Zeroize Hdd Key With Configmagic For Easy Swapping Of Hdd Or Hdd Upgra
Post by: legoman16497 on August 15, 2009, 10:58:00 AM
after disabling shadowc and the virtual eeprom, i used the above method to modify the hd key. personally i used 12345678 repeated 4 times to make a 32 char key.  i installed the eeprom as per above. then i backed up the eeprom, and put it on a floppy. i loaded up my  mod boot disk for pc, and locked the replacement hd with the eeprom on floppy disk. installed new hd, works flawlessly. smile.gif
Title: Zeroize Hdd Key With Configmagic For Easy Swapping Of Hdd Or Hdd Upgra
Post by: blitxxx on October 05, 2009, 06:43:00 PM
Great method !!

Now I have an advanced question.

I have 0-keyed my 200 GB hard drive in my system.

Now I have a 360 GB drive I would like to upgrade to.

Will the current eeprom from my system (with the 0-keyed hard drive) still work without issues to upgrade via XBHDM ?
Title: Zeroize Hdd Key With Configmagic For Easy Swapping Of Hdd Or Hdd Upgra
Post by: Bomb Bloke on October 05, 2009, 07:19:00 PM
Yes.
Title: Zeroize Hdd Key With Configmagic For Easy Swapping Of Hdd Or Hdd Upgra
Post by: blitxxx on November 04, 2009, 12:31:00 AM
What if something (and I have no idea what ; maybe not 32 0's ?) went wrong and I ended up with an error 6 on the stock hard drive ?

I have done this probably 15+ times but this is the first time I have had an issue zeroing the drive  wacko.gif

I do have the original EEPROM backup on my PC, but not the 0 keyed one....
Title: Zeroize Hdd Key With Configmagic For Easy Swapping Of Hdd Or Hdd Upgra
Post by: Bomb Bloke on November 04, 2009, 02:27:00 AM
This is with a new console, yes? Presumably you have no other drives to use with it, and it's not hardmodded?
Title: Zeroize Hdd Key With Configmagic For Easy Swapping Of Hdd Or Hdd Upgra
Post by: blitxxx on November 04, 2009, 12:28:00 PM
This is with a new console, yes?
Yes

Presumably you have no other drives to use with it
I do but no clones of the original. I do however have the original contents of the drive and eeprom on my PC from before I ran Config Magic

and it's not hardmodded?
No. It was with SID / Unleash X / Config Magic
Title: Zeroize Hdd Key With Configmagic For Easy Swapping Of Hdd Or Hdd Upgra
Post by: blitxxx on November 04, 2009, 12:51:00 PM
I guess this would be a good time to learn how to TSOP or buy an EEPROM reader ?
Title: Zeroize Hdd Key With Configmagic For Easy Swapping Of Hdd Or Hdd Upgra
Post by: Bomb Bloke on November 04, 2009, 05:43:00 PM
You say you have other drives you can use with the system, presumably they're zero-keyed as well? That would indicate there's nothing wrong with the console's EEPROM, just with that one locked drive.

So all you've gotta do is unlock it (master passcode is "TEAMASSEMBLY"), then relock it using any other zero-keyed EEPROM. Should work fine from there.
Title: Zeroize Hdd Key With Configmagic For Easy Swapping Of Hdd Or Hdd Upgra
Post by: blitxxx on November 04, 2009, 07:40:00 PM
I do have other 0 keyed drives and have tried them but they all failed with error 6 as well on this particular xbox....

Could 31 0's instead of 32 0's cause this ?
Title: Zeroize Hdd Key With Configmagic For Easy Swapping Of Hdd Or Hdd Upgra
Post by: Bomb Bloke on November 04, 2009, 11:40:00 PM
Ah.

In that case, you're gonna have to go with either a modchip or an EEPROM reader. TSOP flashing requires an active softmod, so while it's a really handy procedure, it won't help you out here.

I'm unsure what could've caused this. Even if you mis-typed the 0's, the original drive should've been locked with the right code for that EEPROM.

Maybe you failed to "update" the EEPROM before relocking and rebooting? The drive might end up zero-ised, but the console would restart with it's original EEPROM and so refuse it.

You could verify this by putting the drive in one of your other zero-ised consoles. If they accept it, then unlock the drive and relock it using that EEPROM backup you originally made.
Title: Zeroize Hdd Key With Configmagic For Easy Swapping Of Hdd Or Hdd Upgra
Post by: blitxxx on November 05, 2009, 02:10:00 PM
Re: Maybe you failed to "update" the EEPROM before relocking and rebooting? The drive might end up zero-ised, but the console would restart with it's original EEPROM and so refuse it. You could verify this by putting the drive in one of your other zero-ised consoles. If they accept it, then unlock the drive and relock it using that EEPROM backup you originally made.

Well I did try using the drive in a zeroized console....

Think theres a chance the eeprom didnt fully update ?

Maybe I could build an XBHDM cd with the original EEPROM and try to do  a full build ?
Title: Zeroize Hdd Key With Configmagic For Easy Swapping Of Hdd Or Hdd Upgra
Post by: Bomb Bloke on November 05, 2009, 04:00:00 PM
I'm not sure what you mean by "full build". There's no point in formatting the drive or changing any of the files on it. The only problem is the lock, which entirely prevents access to the contents of the drive.