Post by: karnak on November 03, 2006, 02:32:00 PM
Have I missed something or is IGN just being fanboys????
512MB RAM FOR PS3!!!!
Post by: atomiX on November 03, 2006, 02:39:00 PM
Post by: mikedavis2838 on November 03, 2006, 02:49:00 PM
Post by: Mr Invader on November 03, 2006, 03:46:00 PM
Post by: incognegro on November 03, 2006, 03:55:00 PM
lmao
Post by: KaRiL on November 03, 2006, 07:27:00 PM
from what I understand, the PS3 has 256MB dedicated VRAM at 700MHZ and 256MB at 3.2GHZ dedicated to system
while the 360 has a unified 512MB at 700MHZ which can be divided as devs need
so...realistically does a game like GoW running at 720p need to use up more than 256MB for Video?
or do people say unified is better because they could if they wanted to?
also, when they say that GoW is the reason MS decided to go with 512MB Ram do they mean Epic convinced them to unify the ram, or that MS figured other games will run fine with 256MB shared between video and system?
I really have no clue about this stuff please enlighten me if i'm wrong.
edit: just read that the ps3 can actually use RAM dedicated to system for video its just harder to program for??
....more confused.
edit:kage edited my post as you were posting,you're right Vram 700MHZ
This post has been edited by KaRiL: Nov 4 2006, 03:38 AM
Post by: KAGE360 on November 03, 2006, 07:34:00 PM
QUOTE(KaRiL @ Nov 3 2006, 09:34 PM) 
Can someone explain this a little more clearly?
from what I understand, the PS3 has 256MB dedicated VRAM at 3.2GHZ and 256MB at 700MHZ dedicated to system
while the 360 has a unified 512MB at 700MHZ which can be divided as devs need
so...realistically does a game like GoW running at 720p need to use up more than 256MB for Video?
or do people say unified is better because they could if they wanted to?
also, when they say that GoW is the reason MS decided to go with 512MB Ram do they mean Epic convinced them to unify the ram, or that MS figured other games will run fine with 256MB shared between video and system?
I really have no clue about this stuff please enlighten me if i'm wrong.
the ps3 has 256MB of DDR3 VRAM at 700MHz (well other reports are saying 650MHz) and 256MB XDR memory running at 3.2GHz.
the 360 has a unified 512MHz of 700MHz DDR3. the developers can split the 512MB however way they choose. judging by epics comments of GoW not possible on the ps3 i would imagine that GoW uses more the 256MB for textures, but i could be wrong. any game is possible on any system if you scale it back enough. just from reading, most developers prefer unified because it offers more flexibility.
epic may have played a role in microsoft's desicion, but the entire development community knew/wanted microsoft to double up the memory in the 360. If mark reins story is true, then the pic of GoW running on only 256MB of memory may have been the final smack to the head to issue the final answer, but they werent the only factor to consider.
long story short, devs knew 256MB wouldnt be enough and thankfully microsoft listened.
Post by: silentbob343 on November 03, 2006, 07:52:00 PM
Anybody heard this or have more information on it?
Post by: Foe-hammer on November 03, 2006, 08:43:00 PM
Post by: silentbob343 on November 03, 2006, 08:57:00 PM
QUOTE(Foe-hammer @ Nov 3 2006, 11:50 PM) 
Yes. But i thought it was the other way around; the cpu could use the 256MB of the video ram, but the GPU is stuck with 256MB.
hmm...maybe it was. I can't remember much about the comment.
Post by: thax on November 03, 2006, 10:40:00 PM
Post by: karnak on November 04, 2006, 02:00:00 AM
This post has been edited by karnak: Nov 4 2006, 10:00 AM
Post by: incognegro on November 04, 2006, 04:44:00 AM
QUOTE(karnak @ Nov 4 2006, 10:07 AM)
LOL Yeah as soon as I saw that I was like NO it has 256MB GPU and 256MB CPU Yes it does total 512MB but all I saw was 512MB of RAM not TOTAL RAM. Very misleading to any potential PS3 buyers and a tad fanboyish if I must say so myself..
Its sony, man. Thats what they do
Post by: the lobo on November 24, 2006, 10:19:00 PM
256MB of XDR DRAM will move data at 12.5GB/s.
Yeah! Can you fucking believe that?
Post by: mik30 on April 09, 2007, 12:03:00 AM
QUOTE(the lobo @ Nov 25 2006, 06:26 AM)
XDR DRAM. It's a beautiful thing. Running it myself.
256MB of XDR DRAM will move data at 12.5GB/s.
Yeah! Can you fucking believe that?
Well, to have something to compare I like to add to this that
my PC (P4 3.2 GHz) moves data in my DDR2 Memory (2-2-2-5)
at a speed of 6 GB/sec.
The influence of this fast RAM compared to slower
Mem Modules in respect to Gamespeed is not very
relevant.
Having more memory (even slower) is more important
to the games I tested than having very fast but less memory.
Post by: bucko on April 09, 2007, 11:03:00 AM
Post by: epsilon72 on April 09, 2007, 11:15:00 PM
QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Nov 3 2006, 07:41 PM) 
If mark reins story is true, then the pic of GoW running on only 256MB of memory may have been the final smack to the head to issue the final answer, but they werent the only factor to consider.
Where is this pic? I'm curious to see what it looks like.
Post by: twistedsymphony on April 10, 2007, 05:07:00 AM
QUOTE(epsilon72 @ Apr 10 2007, 12:46 AM)
Where is this pic? I'm curious to see what it looks like.
I don't believe it has ever been published publicly.