Post by: luke12 on January 03, 2013, 08:20:00 PM
Post by: RDC on January 03, 2013, 09:38:00 PM
Post by: FixItOrModIt on February 04, 2010, 07:06:00 PM
I have it wired to a 12v source right now and it is insanely loud
and would there be a way to make it so you can turn it down low or all the way up but not off?
Also, why is it pretty much impossible to find any info on fan mods for the fan that is already in the ps3?
Thanks
Post by: FixItOrModIt on February 04, 2010, 09:01:00 PM
using an ohms law calculator
12v
2.2a
=
i need a rheostat that can handle at least 5.45455 ohms and 26.4 watts
any input would be appreciated
Post by: niai on February 04, 2010, 09:51:00 PM
Post by: RDC on February 05, 2010, 12:22:00 AM
QUOTE(niai @ Feb 4 2010, 11:51 PM) 
why would you want to do this?
QUOTE(FixItOrModIt @ Feb 4 2010, 09:06 PM)
I have it wired to a 12v source right now and it is insanely loud
That Rheostat would cost around $30~$40 or so and be huge. You can find them at Mouser, DigiKey and the like though, if you want to put a 25W heater in your PS3.
You could go with a 9v Regulator and a SPDT switch to go back and forth between 12v and 9v for the fan, or just pull the alternate voltage from somewhere else on the motherboard, make sure it can source that 2.5A first.
EXAMPLE:
The advantage to using a switch is you know the fan will pretty much always be running at one voltage or the other, unless it dies or the wiring is bad. Something that has a knob on it that can be turned all the way down has a tendency to do so, even if you're not the one that does it someone sooner or later will, and that would turn the fan off unless you put a stop on it so it only turned so far.
Is there something wrong with the automatic fan control on your PS3? And I'd guess the reason there aren't a lot of PS3 fan mods are that's not really your typical fan, so replacing it with something that's easily available isn't really an option, though there are a couple of replacements out for it now.
Post by: FixItOrModIt on February 05, 2010, 09:41:00 PM
It seems that the fan never pushes enough air, so im guessing it probably does have a problem with the temperature sensor or something.
I reflowed this one for a 3rd time and let it run for over 5 hours with no problem with the fan at full speed but its just way too loud
im going to try the spdt switch and 9v regulator
these should work right?
http://cgi.ebay.com/2pcs-Toggle-Switch-min...=item4a9e5cbe34
http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch...p;x=21&y=20
Post by: RDC on February 06, 2010, 12:36:00 AM
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Post by: illeperuma on February 09, 2010, 09:36:00 AM
why dont you install a fanmate (http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=652635). I'm using it in my xbox for last 1.5 years no problem at all. Hoping to get a ps3 next week will sure do a similar mod using fanmate.
Only problem i have is that still can't find proper power layout diagram where to get 12V in the ps3. I know its not recommended getting power from the rom. after all this a blueray which consume more power. you have done the mod on the new 120GB version or the old fat version?
If possible pls explain how you are getting the 12V.
Post by: RDC on February 09, 2010, 10:21:00 AM
PC case fans and the like in the 360 draw far, far less current, under 500mA (0.5A), which is the max rating for the FM2, so it works fine for PC/360 fans, but stick it in your PS3 and it'll toast it.
Post by: illeperuma on February 09, 2010, 09:21:00 PM
QUOTE(RDC @ Feb 9 2010, 11:21 PM) 
The Fan Mate 2 isn't able to handle the 2.5A or so of current the PS3 fan needs, that thing is only rated to work at 6W or lower, while the PS3 fan is closer to 30W.
PC case fans and the like in the 360 draw far, far less current, under 500mA (0.5A), which is the max rating for the FM2, so it works fine for PC/360 fans, but stick it in your PS3 and it'll toast it.
yes i checked the specs of the ps3 fan ur correct... Fanmate wont work. But im sure can get a matching fan controller for the job over the ebay. Sorry guys. thanx RDC for correcting me.
Post by: RDC on February 09, 2010, 09:37:00 PM
Post by: GeToChKn on May 11, 2010, 07:10:00 AM
The PS3 fans run on a PWM system. They run at 12V all the time, but the 3rd fan wire sends a small voltage to the fan that actually controls the speed. You want to cut the 3rd wire from the fan (gray one) and wire it to a power source. If you send it 3.3V, it will run at full speed ahead captain. You can find 3.3V coming off the PS3 power supply. I usually run some resistors inline with it to slow it down some. This is a very low voltage, so 1/4 watt resistors are fine as we're not messing with the 2.5A 12V, only the small voltage that controls the speed. Now for some reason, different PS3's and different fans react differently to different voltages and resistors. I do this fan mod on each PS3 that I fix from the YLOD, but each resistor amount is different for each PS3. I've had to go anywhere from about 30k to 350k to achieve the same result on different PS3's. It works great though and most of the systems that I've done this on, don't come back after a YLOD fix as opposed to the ones that I didn't do the fix on.
Post by: desicrator on May 20, 2010, 01:23:00 PM
from the PSU UNIT ITSELF
i think the right hand one is the 12v, can anyone elaborate as to which may be 3.3v if you have a multimeter handy.
PINS
1...2...3...4...5
?v ?v ?v ?v 12v
This post has been edited by desicrator: May 20 2010, 08:28 PM
Post by: sjalsip on July 23, 2010, 09:21:00 PM
Post by: sudburymods on September 06, 2010, 09:15:00 AM
Having a multimeter makes finding stuff like this lots easier and faster. A multimeter is like $15.
You will need to cut the grey wire (leave some extra at the plug if you ever need to resolder this wire together) and the end that goes to the fan will connect to your Pot.
Post by: RoboChicken on September 09, 2010, 01:10:00 PM
QUOTE(GeToChKn @ May 11 2010, 06:10 AM)
Not sure if you're still interested, but here it goes.
The PS3 fans run on a PWM system. They run at 12V all the time, but the 3rd fan wire sends a small voltage to the fan that actually controls the speed. You want to cut the 3rd wire from the fan (gray one) and wire it to a power source. If you send it 3.3V, it will run at full speed ahead captain. You can find 3.3V coming off the PS3 power supply. I usually run some resistors inline with it to slow it down some. This is a very low voltage, so 1/4 watt resistors are fine as we're not messing with the 2.5A 12V, only the small voltage that controls the speed. Now for some reason, different PS3's and different fans react differently to different voltages and resistors. I do this fan mod on each PS3 that I fix from the YLOD, but each resistor amount is different for each PS3. I've had to go anywhere from about 30k to 350k to achieve the same result on different PS3's. It works great though and most of the systems that I've done this on, don't come back after a YLOD fix as opposed to the ones that I didn't do the fix on.
Thanks for the advice GeToChKn. Here's my attempt with 130K of resistance:
Still loud as hell. If I increase to 140K it's a dramatic drop in airflow, almost too low so for this PS3 I think I'm going to stick with a base of 130K and keep going up 1.5K until it's acceptable (if the customer comes back sick of of the noise)
Post by: sudburymods on September 09, 2010, 01:16:00 PM
I have complete control over the fan, follow the directions I gave above and use a 200k pot and you can control the speed to what you like. I gave you the answer please use it.
Post by: RoboChicken on September 09, 2010, 01:27:00 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/35465962@N07/4974269799/
Still working on it and adding different resistances for easy checking.
I wish team Xecuter would make a PS3 fan mod kit for us with a pot or maybe a slider to select different resistances. I have one wire from gray wire and one wire from 3.3v pin on mobo meeting at the top of my PS3 on the inside. Before I close the lid, I use my tester for the best resistance values, then solder on what worked best.
If we had an Xecuter solution, I would totally buy. Tons.
QUOTE(sudburymods @ Sep 9 2010, 12:16 PM)
Ok look at my video here,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLhcAqiflEw
I have complete control over the fan, follow the directions I gave above and use a 200k pot and you can control the speed to what you like. I gave you the answer please use it.
OK so grey wire to what part of the pot? There's 3 places to solder on a POT. Am I soldering anything else to the other two points on the pot?
Thanks!
Post by: Dark Mod on September 09, 2010, 09:50:00 PM
Post by: sudburymods on September 10, 2010, 06:49:00 AM
This post has been edited by RDC: Sep 10 2010, 06:45 PM
Post by: KillerBug666 on September 13, 2010, 07:15:00 AM
http://forums.afterdawn.com/t.cfm/f-153/new_fan_fix-865649/
Post by: gAm3 Fr3aQu3 on December 06, 2010, 01:15:00 AM
Here's my set-up with a 100k pot installed in the front of my PS3 for easy access and control.
(IMG:http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2978/16291910100119913773663.jpg)
Post by: Jedah_001 on January 27, 2011, 01:14:00 PM
What ive done? I wired the third grey wire to that 3.3V source mentioned above.
It works but its waaay too loud.
The question is what type of resistor i should place between
3.3V> *Resistor* <Grey Wire
so i can lower the rotation?
How much "K"? How much "A"?
I've asked TV repairman and he said "You should be careful choosing the right one because inappropriate resistor can warm up very fast and eventualy blows up
Post by: relaxxx on January 27, 2011, 01:54:00 PM
You're running the fan at 100%. If you want to run the fan at 50% I have a simple schematic here:
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=727112
If you want more adjustment than that or add a POT then it gets more complicated and sketchy.
Post by: Jedah_001 on January 27, 2011, 02:56:00 PM
Well GeToChKn says he managed to fix the problem using a simple resistor..I dont see where's the problem....I just need the spec
Ah well thanks anyway maybe I'll bother one of the local servicers so can make that mod
Post by: pdcam on July 29, 2011, 03:11:00 AM
Thermistor , As it gets hot it's resistance goes down.
Adjusting the POT under normal conditions for suitable noise level .
As the system gets hotter under game play the FAN will self adjust due to the thermistor .
It goes faster the hotter the system gets. and the system cools .
It actually balances its self very well.( not changing speed all the time)
Wiring
Cut GREY wire from FAN to Control plug .connected FAN side to a 47K NTC Thermistor (extended the wires and cover joints with shrink wrap or other methods) .other wire of Thermistor connected to 1 leg of a 10K potentiometer(POT). center leg of POT connected to the 3.3v wire from PSU (Splice)
Physical
unscrew the FAN , you can now see the heat producing chips / heat sinks.
I was able to Push the Thermistor wires through the FAN heat sink housing to the area where the fan connects
(shortest route) and left the thermistor flush with the base near the chips , so that if won't foul the fan and close enough to the heat source.
Hot glue gun to Mount the POT at the side of the PSU .
Drilled a 8mm hole in the side to allow access to the POT screw for future adjustment.
