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Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: cr0 on May 30, 2007, 07:37:00 PM
Hi all, I'm investigating water cooling for my PS3.

I've looked through BigJimmy's tutorial and haven't noticed any major issues with tube routing. However, I'm concerned about the size of the CPU and GPU chips. I'd rather not have custom water blocks made, so I'm hoping I'll be able to use normal CPU blocks. (i.e. blocks from swiftech, danger den, etc.)

My questions are:
  1. What are the dimensions for each chip?
  2. What are the diagonal distances between the mounting holes for each chip?
  3. With the heatsink/fan block removed, will the PS3 still function? i.e. is there an RPM monitor that will shut down the PS3 if no activity is detected?
  4. With the heatsink/fan block removed are there supports to keep the rest of the innards elevated to the same height?
I just got my PS3 less than 2 days ago, so I'm little wary of taking it apart just yet in case it decides to die in the first week or so.

Any help would be appreciated. I'm especially curious to hear if anyone else has investigated this previously.

Thanks!

- cr0

This post has been edited by cr0: May 31 2007, 02:38 AM
Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: pablot on June 04, 2007, 11:54:00 PM
is there any special reason for you to water cool it? Or is it just to be the first?  smile.gif

last I checked the PS3 is very quiet and does not overheat.

Would be a fun project though!
Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: wh00pass on June 05, 2007, 01:11:00 AM
haha, wow, i hate the idea of having water flow threw my ps3, jeeze,what if the tube melted on something or sprange a leek, their goes $600 and probley ur house burning down to smile.gif
it would be fun and a way to impress ur friends, hope this works for you man
Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: nimicitor on June 05, 2007, 08:36:00 AM
QUOTE(wh00pass @ Jun 5 2007, 08:47 AM) *
what if the tube melted


if the tube melted then the water wouldn't be doing its job.
you would probably see any water related problems before they did any damage.

(im not an expert)
Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: grim_d on June 05, 2007, 08:19:00 AM
QUOTE(wh00pass @ Jun 5 2007, 08:47 AM) View Post

haha, wow, i hate the idea of having water flow threw my ps3, jeeze,what if the tube melted on something or sprange a leek, their goes $600 and probley ur house burning down to smile.gif
it would be fun and a way to impress ur friends, hope this works for you man


it's not water cooling anymore, it's liquid cooling.

using water is stupid for that very reason (leaks) so any sensible luqid cooling setup would be using non-conductive liquid specially designed not to damage electrical components if the worst were to happen and a leak were to occur.
Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: BIMPtacular on June 05, 2007, 07:53:00 PM
if/when you brick your ps3 ill buy the stock case from you for $50

BIMP
Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: lapoune on July 01, 2007, 01:57:00 PM
QUOTE(grim_d @ Jun 5 2007, 03:55 PM) *

it's not water cooling anymore, it's liquid cooling.

using water is stupid for that very reason (leaks) so any sensible luqid cooling setup would be using non-conductive liquid specially designed not to damage electrical components if the worst were to happen and a leak were to occur.


Every liquid with a reasonable price conducts electricity (if not at first, after a short period of time). For liquid cooling water is still the best option. It has the best heat transfer properties too...
Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: EnVious on July 02, 2007, 06:22:00 PM
If I had a PS3 I'd watercool it.

This post has been edited by EnVious: Jul 3 2007, 01:23 AM
Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: Sweeet on July 06, 2007, 12:09:00 PM
When I put my hand over the fan at the back of my PS3, it's actually fairly hot.

Maybe not such a crazy idea but I think the PS3 is built to withstand the heat, unlike another console I know.

This post has been edited by Sweeet: Jul 6 2007, 07:10 PM
Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: the_massakre on July 07, 2007, 09:21:00 PM
QUOTE(Sweeet @ Jul 6 2007, 07:45 PM) View Post

When I put my hand over the fan at the back of my PS3, it's actually fairly hot.

Maybe not such a crazy idea but I think the PS3 is built to withstand the heat, unlike another console I know.

i havent had any problems with my wii,j/k, watercooling it'd be awesome,but i am no help past encouragement,good luck
Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: elcazador on July 21, 2007, 09:59:00 PM
QUOTE(cr0 @ May 30 2007, 10:13 PM) *

Hi all, I'm investigating water cooling for my PS3.

I've looked through BigJimmy's tutorial and haven't noticed any major issues with tube routing. However, I'm concerned about the size of the CPU and GPU chips. I'd rather not have custom water blocks made, so I'm hoping I'll be able to use normal CPU blocks. (i.e. blocks from swiftech, danger den, etc.)

My questions are:
  1. What are the dimensions for each chip?
  2. What are the diagonal distances between the mounting holes for each chip?
  3. With the heatsink/fan block removed, will the PS3 still function? i.e. is there an RPM monitor that will shut down the PS3 if no activity is detected?
  4. With the heatsink/fan block removed are there supports to keep the rest of the innards elevated to the same height?
I just got my PS3 less than 2 days ago, so I'm little wary of taking it apart just yet in case it decides to die in the first week or so.

Any help would be appreciated. I'm especially curious to hear if anyone else has investigated this previously.

Thanks!

- cr0


I have decided to undertake this project. I can get every part required. I only need one additional part and that would be the brackets to fit the water cooling block on. Cooler Bracket Hardware . It might be separate for the PS3. But since you are the only one interested in this project as i am. We can decide to talk in private. PM me. I have more info than you might possibly have. I wouldnt want to discuss it here. Not if others dont have interest and simply wish to fear liquid cooling might cause potential damage.
Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: splank on August 07, 2007, 03:40:00 PM
Wow that will be really cool if you pull it off!  Defo post your progress and good luck!
Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: elcazador on August 20, 2007, 01:16:00 PM
Alright. As soon as my warranty is over I will pop open the PS3 and work on liquid cooling it. I am currently Liquid Cooling my X360. I wonder if i can put splitters and cool the PS3 with the same reservoir. I have found a good waterblock for the PS3 if anyone is interested. I am sure that waterblock will work in PS3.

Waterblock - hxxp://www.koolance.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=29_46&products_id=87 <-- Will work 100%
If anyone thinks that waterblock wont work please post. Also if someone has a custom waterblock let me know. I really love those Innovatek X360 waterblocks (really expensive though).

I am using Koolance Exos-2LX for my X360 and I plan to use splitters like i said to cool the PS3 as well.

Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: rhopper on September 04, 2007, 11:57:00 AM
i dont like koolance stuff as much as i like swiftech.... but koolance dost the job

swiftech...cpu size they have apogee regular and server (output is sideways)

http://www.performance-pcs.com/ lots of cpu and gpu blocks


the raidator is big if you want it to cool better than it already dose.. the external koolance is ok but not top of the line (probly the best external kit)

i see it costing over 300$ eigther way and you ps3 isnt going to be as moveable...not tryn to stop you just saying


heres a product i havnt yet researched
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/ind...oducts_id=22149

could be cool if its just for 1 block...although a 2x120 rad would be better and nessicary if you do 2 components

This post has been edited by rhopper: Sep 4 2007, 07:12 PM
Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: elcazador on September 10, 2007, 10:11:00 PM
I have received my Infectus PS3 modchip from Italy. I now start to open my PS3. Detailed pictures will be provided to Koolance corp and posted around the net and here as well. Once the Modchip is installed i will watercool the PS3 as it makes moving around the motherboard much easier.
I am doing a thorough analysis of the onboard fw and a lot of other work. I will keep you guys updated of progress.
Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: elcazador on September 18, 2007, 11:07:00 PM

Great news for all of you wanting to watercool the PS3! Koolance with 2-3 weeks is coming up with a custom waterblock that should be for PS3
Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: SuDDeN on October 08, 2007, 05:22:00 PM
Any more word on this yet?

 ph34r.gif
Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: ps3fw on October 09, 2007, 10:11:00 AM
Check this out
(IMG:http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa138/ejsid/WatercooledPS3/liquid-cooled-ps3.jpg)
(IMG:http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa138/ejsid/WatercooledPS3/liquid-cooled-ps3-2.jpg)
That liquid cooled PS3 is not using the Koolance PS3 kit.

Here are pic's of the PS3 liquid cooling kit.
http://www.koolance.com/shop/product_info....products_id=554
(IMG:http://www.koolance.com/shop/images/more/kit-ps3bk-sys_p1.jpg)

I am also interested in watercooling the PS3 except I want some huge waterblock. Because in xbox 360 the small koolance waterblocks don't cool down the remaining RAM components etc.

This post has been edited by ps3fw: Oct 9 2007, 05:19 PM
Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: SuDDeN on October 10, 2007, 02:14:00 AM
@ps3fw   =   Yep  saw that top box on the PS3 forums.   Nice.  -  could use a lil clean up work, but still nice none the less!  I checked out the page on the Koolance stuff and still no price - I'm sure it will be expensive.   smile.gif


l8r
Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: ps3fw on November 09, 2007, 09:48:00 PM
Confirmation of another waterblock from the popular manufacturer Innovatek. We all know the products Innovatek makes are the best quality around. I placed an order on them myself and hope to see them in 1-2 weeks.

(IMG:http://www.webshop-innovatek.de/images/ps3matic11.jpg)
(IMG:http://www.webshop-innovatek.de/images/ps3matic21.jpg)
(IMG:http://www.webshop-innovatek.de/images/ps3matic31.jpg)
Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: Bandit5317 on April 13, 2008, 12:41:00 PM
Wow, that thing looks nice, but how pricey was it? I know the x-matic for the 360 cost an arm and a leg which is why most people went for other waterblocks.
Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: Sumanji on July 05, 2008, 12:13:00 PM
Hey guys,

I was googling for watercooled PS3 projects when I came across this thread (and this forum!). I'm currently putting together bits of kit to water cool my PS3. I'm doing this just for the fun and the challenge, and I have one of the "noisy" original consoles. My PS3 is out of warranty, so I figure what the hell biggrin.gif

I've opted to use a passive solution - Zalman Reserator 2. I've already ordered the Innovatek PS-Matic block shown above, and I will replace the 10/8 compession fitting with 8mm barbs so the Zalman tubing will fit over it. I will then use a Smart plug like this to turn both on at the same time. I'm also thinking of getting a quiet USB powered fan to move a bit of air through the rest of the system (to cool mosfets, RAM etc.).

I have everything figured out except for one problem... I can't find the Reserator 2 for sale anywhere in the UK!! Has this model been discontinued? If anyone can point me to somewhere in UK/Europe that sells it I would very much appreciate it smile.gif

Cheers,

Suman
Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: dcc0011 on September 12, 2008, 09:39:00 AM
If your fan is loud it's prob. because the bracket that holds the fan is tweaked. I would argue with you that mine wasn't before I fixed it. I ordered new/used fan from ebay and it's just like new now. fun stuff! As far as water cooling goes, more power to ya. I'm not going to because I have 2 pitbulls and a cat that likes to chew on things.

This post has been edited by dcc0011: Sep 12 2008, 04:41 PM
Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: Sumanji on September 30, 2008, 10:50:00 AM
QUOTE(dcc0011 @ Sep 12 2008, 05:15 PM) View Post

If your fan is loud it's prob. because the bracket that holds the fan is tweaked. I would argue with you that mine wasn't before I fixed it. I ordered new/used fan from ebay and it's just like new now. fun stuff! As far as water cooling goes, more power to ya. I'm not going to because I have 2 pitbulls and a cat that likes to chew on things.


How do you mean the fan bracket is tweaked?
Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: timstim on September 30, 2008, 09:13:00 PM
QUOTE(elcazador @ Sep 10 2007, 09:47 PM) View Post

I have received my Infectus PS3 modchip from Italy. I now start to open my PS3. Detailed pictures will be provided to Koolance corp and posted around the net and here as well. Once the Modchip is installed i will watercool the PS3 as it makes moving around the motherboard much easier.
I am doing a thorough analysis of the onboard fw and a lot of other work. I will keep you guys updated of progress.


i dont know what you would do with a modchip and no firmware to suport it. its worthless at this point in time

this from the infectus modchip forum: http://www.infectus....mp;topic=2062.0


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The infectus will allow you to dump and reflash your NAND (firmware chip). It will NOT allow you to play backups. IF a custom firmware comes out one day, you can use the infectus to flash it to the system. Due to Sony sueing companies that make and sell modchips for any Sony system, development of PS3 modchips is slow to nonexistant. Don't ask if/when there will be a PS3 modchip for backups. NOONE knows.
Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: GrimHrs on November 08, 2008, 12:33:00 PM
QUOTE(ps3fw @ Nov 10 2007, 12:24 AM) View Post

Confirmation of another waterblock from the popular manufacturer Innovatek. We all know the products Innovatek makes are the best quality around. I placed an order on them myself and hope to see them in 1-2 weeks.

IPB Image
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does anyone have info on the cooling block? i can't find a price or place to order anywhere..
Title: Water Cooling A Ps3
Post by: Sumanji on December 07, 2008, 08:26:00 AM
QUOTE(GrimHrs @ Nov 8 2008, 09:09 PM) View Post

does anyone have info on the cooling block? i can't find a price or place to order anywhere..


I have this block but I'm looking to sell it (gave up on my watercooling plan sad.gif)

Drop me an email if you want more pics etc.