Post by: Solosmooth on December 23, 2006, 04:28:00 PM
I need one.
Post by: Ranger72 on December 24, 2006, 07:49:00 AM
Post by: redwolf on December 24, 2006, 07:31:00 PM
www.x2vga.com
www.vdigi.com
you monitor MUST support 640x480p, 1280x720p & 1920x1080i
Post by: Solosmooth on December 25, 2006, 01:33:00 PM
Post by: supergrafx on December 28, 2006, 02:55:00 PM
QUOTE(redwolf @ Dec 24 2006, 09:38 PM) 
you can get these transcoders (component to VGA)
www.x2vga.com
www.vdigi.com
you monitor MUST support 640x480p, 1280x720p & 1920x1080i
Yeah man, those units are both the bomb and everything else I've seen or heard about got bad reviews. I bought the x2vga+ unit for my xbox and connect it to an old dell crt moniter next to my mac, and the graphics are HD quality. My unit is kind of fragile however, and if it moves around a bit, might turn off the xbox. Not to mention, when it has been jittered around, I might have to power up the xbox like 10-20 times while fiddling with the cable to get it working again in its 720p output I have it set at. But I bought it off of ebay used, not new, and the seller maybe sold me the unit since he or she was experiencing this fault in this unit. Had the original xbox just been able to have a vga extension sold as an accessory like the xbox 360's, the original xbox may have done a hell of a lot better than the ps2, since the graphics when seen in hd, make it look that much better. This was one of the main reasons I was never really impressed with the xbox 360. Basically, the original xbox had the potential of being hd compliant and the new xbox has just added more polygons to the mix. I plan to get either the vdigi vd-z3 or x2vga2 for the ps3 as I will not be suckered into these overpriced hd tvs when you can get basically the same performance from an old crt moniter you probably could get for free on craigslist. Unfortunetely, both company's are out of stock on their units, and usually do not restock for months. Looks like I'll have to use those crappy av cables until they get their units in. This time I want one new.... and am unwilling to dish out twice the cost, like close to 100 bucks for what they are going for on ebay.
Post by: The_Hushed_Casket on December 28, 2006, 11:34:00 PM
Post by: bib on December 31, 2006, 08:32:00 AM
The hdmi to dvi is digital not analog DVI
But, I also have been looking into this and have found two converters
( as soon as I get extra money I will try the FC4)
the first is about $110 shipped to your door (USA) FC3
"DVI Digital,HDMI to HD,PC,VGA,Component Video,Converter"
http://cgi.ebay.com/DVI-Digital-HDMI-to-HD...Component-Video
-Converter_W0QQitemZ320064047815QQihZ011QQcategoryZ73387QQrdZ1QQs
sPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
but you will also need a HDMI to DVI adapter or cable for this one. (has no audio)
or for about $200 shipped to your door (USA) FC4
"HDMI to VGA,PC HD Component Video Format Converter,HDTV"
http://cgi.ebay.com/HDMI-to-VGA-PC-HD-Comp...deo-Format-Conv
erter-HDTV_W0QQitemZ320063016626QQihZ011QQcategoryZ73387QQrdZ1QQs
sPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
"has audio"
I asked the seller if there was any differance between the two, if I did not need audio and he replied
"If your not interested in the audio, the fc3 will work just as well.
Thanks "
and you will need a vga to vga adapter cable (most likely M-M) for either one.
I don't think there is any delay in this box from anything I read about it, and the output is perfect (from what I have read that others have stated).
Hope this helps out.
Post by: BoNg420 on December 31, 2006, 05:16:00 PM
Post by: Foe-hammer on December 31, 2006, 06:47:00 PM
The same problem held true for the original xbox. A simple cable would not work. Only once the bios had been hacked/patched to output true RGB was it possible to use a hacked cable. And still there is problems with some games not supporting full color with the hacked vga bios.
Post by: bib on December 31, 2006, 06:55:00 PM
I have heard people rigging the component to VGA and seen a cheaper device somewhere that does this, but have not tested.
the good thing about the FC4 ($200) is if your tv does not have HDMI and only Component/vga this will convert it, and you could run a long HDMI cable to another room(HDTV set) for a HD source that is not in the other room!
Also keep in mind others like me only have 1080P thru VGA on 1year old sets, so $110-$200 shipped seems like a great deal VS. buying ANOTHER HDTV (I wish they would stop changing the standards!!)
Good Luck and let me know if the component to VGA rig works??
Post by: bucko on January 02, 2007, 11:18:00 AM
This post has been edited by bucko: Jan 2 2007, 07:18 PM
Post by: supergrafx on January 07, 2007, 12:16:00 AM
Post by: RonP on March 08, 2007, 11:06:00 AM
thought I was going to have to dump my $5K projector until I picked up the VisionFC4 on ebay.
WOW what an awesome little gadget! Am now watching even blu ray movies on my projector via my PS3.
Guess it'll be good for a few more years..
Thanks
RonP
This post has been edited by RonP: Mar 8 2007, 07:06 PM
Post by: hdmivga on March 25, 2007, 01:59:00 PM
PS3 have a HDMI transmitter and HDMI output(it's a HDCP chipset that will encode and send digital encrypted audio/video signal)
Display MUST have a HDMI receiver and HDMI input (it's a HDCP chipset that will decode and output PURE analog RGB to screen matrix)
Usually the HDMI receiver is INSIDE the screen (means soldered on the display PCB).
However there is a way to add a HDMI/HDCP digital input OUTSIDE of your screen.
www.hdfury.com
This is called a HDCP stripper
That's the ONLY way to display 720p/1080p resolution out of ANY HDMI source such PS3, Blu-Ray and HD-DVD player, PC HDMI graphic card, X360 Elite, SAT and Cable HDTV setbox.
So anyone with a HDMI/HDCP source, but without a HDMI/HDCP display have 3 solutions:
- Buy a new display
- Use source with low resolution even if your display is technically able to reach much higher resolution such as 720p or 1080p
- buy a HDCP stripper such as HDfury
Hope it helps !
This post has been edited by hdmivga: Mar 25 2007, 09:01 PM
Post by: jdsp on May 11, 2007, 06:14:00 AM
QUOTE(supergrafx @ Jan 7 2007, 07:52 AM)
OK, I just got the Vision FC4 off of ebay and am very pleased with it. Although, I have to admit, I am now broke.... I went with this other than the vdigi and the neoya's due to whatever hd/audio is sent through hdmi, is what is sent through vga/component. VGA is what I needed due to using an old dell crt moniter which I previously was using for my old xbox (well, actually the xbox will still use it, when I want to play fbaxxx). I hate tvs/ they are a scam. Just movies and games for me, and hbo's the wire ofcourse. Here's the deal though on that unit. There is no upconverting, making it probably a truer hd signal for moniters. Honestly I can't tell the difference between the 720p signal from the old neoya x2vga and the fc4. But second, it supposably takes away the algorythm, which has something to do with the hdcp format, which is just copy protection. Thus, I believe the ps3 is not internally copy protected but rather is just copy protected with it's output, being hdcp, which I just got, the cp must stand for copy protected. I am an idiot.....But she didn't think so, at least at the time. Even though it is so much more than the two other chinese brands listed, the fc4 is a lot more plug and play I must say, and I like the metal enclosure rather than the plasticness of the other two brands. Expensive as a mugg though.......Oh, and p.s., make sure you set up a tv next to your vga moniter when you output the internal audio/display settings to the higher resolutions, since the ps3 often will not just register a settings change once the hdmi cable is first initialized. Carrying the tv downstairs was the biggest hassle. So it's a good product, me thinks, and i'll go post him some positive feedback now too.
I just got visionfc4 was running ps3 into 1080p lcd, so manually changed it to show 1080i on lcd works great, then connected it to VisionFC4 connected to component input 1080i projector, blank screen??
Changed back to lcd image re-appeared, changed over to XBOX 360 running component --> HDMI --> VisionFC4 --> Projector works 100%
How do you get PS3-> HDMI ->VisionFC4-> Projector to work ????
Post by: Foe-hammer on April 10, 2008, 04:48:00 PM
I've seen the ps3 vga cable sold at play-asia. I'm curious as to how it works, because the ps3 doesn't support vga in its bios. It only support vga in linux, and only at a resolution lower then 640x480. I'm wondering if the play-asia's ps3 vga cable is really just a transcoder - converts component to vga?
Post by: petercoc on November 09, 2008, 10:21:00 PM
QUOTE(Solosmooth @ Dec 24 2006, 01:04 AM)
Where can I buy a vga cable for my ps3?
I need one.
HDMI Cables can be more useful for u budy
