Post by: runwave87 on February 02, 2020, 09:25:00 PM
http://twitter.com/fail0verflow
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/12/29/hackers-...ling-unauthori/
Post by: Rustmonkey on December 30, 2010, 09:50:00 PM
Post by: gehx on January 01, 2011, 01:19:00 AM
QUOTE(Rustmonkey @ Dec 31 2010, 12:50 AM) 
It seems this could be pretty big - i.e. custom firmware which would open up a whole world of possibilities in line with the level of development on the original XBOX and beyond. Looking forward to where the homebrew scene goes with this!
yep! +1
Post by: somenutter on January 02, 2011, 08:00:00 PM
Post by: craxor5354 on January 03, 2011, 03:52:00 PM
Post by: hamwbone on January 03, 2011, 10:49:00 PM
If it is OK then the original posts will be displayed. Untill then, yes, we know Geohot leaked the key and a quick web seach will find what you need.
-Hamwbone
http://forums.xbox-s...owtopic=726511
Post by: chewdiggy on January 05, 2011, 03:42:00 PM
Post by: STICKY_BUD on January 07, 2011, 06:27:00 PM
anyway, it seems that geohot and fail0verflow team have completed their goals of hacking the console for linux so they may simply choose to clean up the code they have created so far and let others take over...
which makes me wonder if some new dongle will show up or some other kind of device that hackers are designing in the background. if there is money to be made, i fully expect some very well known xbox modchip device manufacturers to get involved too.
Post by: Rustmonkey on January 07, 2011, 09:59:00 PM
Post by: thewhipedone on January 08, 2011, 08:09:00 AM
Post by: Unimatrix47 on January 08, 2011, 10:44:00 PM
Post by: Ultra_Extreme on January 09, 2011, 05:36:00 AM
The key is what is used to make software read as legitimate, this has NEVER BEEN DONE! Basically means you could sign a hacked game rip and put it in a retail PS3 and play it with NO MODDING AT ALL
Post by: Chancer on January 09, 2011, 05:40:00 AM
QUOTE(Unimatrix47 @ Jan 9 2011, 05:44 AM)
I wouldnt doubt if the lack of talk about this is because the hackers are in talks with mod chip makers so they can cash in. Cant blame them..
Knowing the key would mean there is no need for a modification (Chip) for the console itself as once the software is signed it will run as the console would not know it from retail software. Depends how this progresses and is implemented.
It is big news and I am trying to get PS3 Scene on here updated. I have a few of the Mods willing to run this section and update with news so hopefully this can be sorted as a good source.
Post by: Rustmonkey on January 09, 2011, 10:45:00 AM
QUOTE(Chancer @ Jan 9 2011, 05:40 AM)
Knowing the key would mean there is no need for a modification (Chip) for the console itself as once the software is signed it will run as the console would not know it from retail software. Depends how this progresses and is implemented.
It is big news and I am trying to get PS3 Scene on here updated. I have a few of the Mods willing to run this section and update with news so hopefully this can be sorted as a good source.
Awesome! Thanks for the update Chancer!
Post by: Ultra_Extreme on January 09, 2011, 07:31:00 PM
QUOTE(Unimatrix47 @ Jan 9 2011, 07:23 PM)
Im happy to read that I was wrong. Too bad we dont get more discussion on how we can implement the key ourselves. For most of us used to modding the xbox360 and regular xbox the PS3 seems very foreign and different. If its really true that we wont need a mod-chip or ANY-thing to run hacked code or modded code then we need to figure out how to implement the key...
Sadly i think this is where the profiteers will come, any program used to sign ISO's or similar with one click would be absoloute GOLD. Think about it, you get the program start signing ISO's and selling them on. Consumers do not have the smarts to understand the difference between running a copy and a legit game, at least by and large, so the potential for profit selling to the general population is HUGE, for this reason i expect early software for signing iso's and such will be sold at a premium.
Sad really because whilst i dont condone piracy, i condone piracy for profit far less!
Got this on googlybums
QUOTE
KEY WAS HERE
~geohot
props to fail0verflow for the asymmetric half
no donate link, just use this info wisely
i do not condone piracy
I made a video
it's jailbreak time
open the zip, you know how to install
3.55 only
would be pirates, don't waste your time
do not mirror file, link to geohot.com
no donations accepted right now, don't get scammed
homebrew signing source
make_self_npdrm makes valid NPDRM selfs from elfs
it does not contain any info on decrypting or removing NPDRM
NPDRM is required for interoperability of our homebrew applications
package_finalize turns your debug packages into psuedoretail packages
psuedoretail packages install on a geohot jailbroken PS3
i'm excited to see what you will create
open source SDK @ PSL1GHT
Post by: Ultra_Extreme on January 10, 2011, 01:45:00 PM
Post by: Unimatrix47 on January 11, 2011, 11:50:00 AM
Post by: steveo1978 on January 11, 2011, 05:25:00 PM
QUOTE(Ultra_Extreme @ Jan 9 2011, 09:31 PM)
Sadly i think this is where the profiteers will come, any program used to sign ISO's or similar with one click would be absoloute GOLD. Think about it, you get the program start signing ISO's and selling them on. Consumers do not have the smarts to understand the difference between running a copy and a legit game, at least by and large, so the potential for profit selling to the general population is HUGE, for this reason i expect early software for signing iso's and such will be sold at a premium.
Well there are people that will find ways to release stuff for free. There are tons of people that know how to program that will release stuff to do different things for the PS3. If some one wants to sell some kind of software or hardware that will allow homebrew on the PS3 they will have to do it quick because with in a short period of time some one else will release something for free that does the same thing. Look at the PS3Jailbreak while the people that released it were in court fighting for the right to sell it others came out with a cheaper version and also ways to use stuff you already own to jailbreak the PS3 for free.
Also people DO NOT post links to sites that host the custom firmware or keys.
@Unimatrix47: Yes they are using the keys that were released not to long ago and you will not need a usb dongle in the near future. The PS3 will look at the software that is signed with those keys as if it was released by sony so they can basically its possible to install software with no type of mod to the ps3 what so ever.
Post by: spy4561 on January 11, 2011, 05:28:00 PM
QUOTE(Pingu82 @ Jan 3 2011, 10:52 AM)
Actually the need for a custom FW will not be needed.
Hopefully this will make us able to sign our own code, just as sony does on any retail game.
If you haven`t seen fail0verflows presentation at 27C3 I would recommend it, gave me a laugh considering how the "gods" at sony r&d generates their random numbers
I saw the Fail0verFlow presentation and Sony did really Fail at the security system, but you Can Sign your own code now
Post by: relaxxx on January 11, 2011, 09:18:00 PM
Like if I order one today from China will there be a SIGNED Open Manager fully working without jailbreak before it arrives in my mail?
Post by: STICKY_BUD on January 11, 2011, 11:13:00 PM
on another note, i own a jailbreak dongle that i do not think i need anymore and that i could sell to you faster than a shop in china.
hehe
Post by: STICKY_BUD on January 12, 2011, 01:37:00 AM
QUOTE(steveo1978 @ Jan 11 2011, 11:48 PM)
Its not really a law suit its basically an order to try and stop him and some others from releasing anything else. I think Sony or MS should just give Geohot a job.
geohot posted the documents he received as pdf scans. there a couple of preliminary orders that sony submitted to the judge, but there is also a complaint filed and the document appears legitimate; even includes the dated u.s. district court stamp. several defendents are named and sony is the plaintiff.
here is what it says on the first page:
COMPLAINT FOR INJUNCTIVE RELIEF AND DAMAGES BASED ON VIOLATIONS OF DIGITAL MILLENNIUM COPYRIGHT ACT; VIOLATIONS OF THE COMPUTER FRAUD AND ABUSE ACT; CONTRIBUTORY COPYRIGHT INFRIN'GEMENT; VIOLATIONS OF THE CALIFORNIA COMPREHENSIVE COMPUTER DATA ACCESS AND FRAUD ACT; BREACH OF CONTRACT; TORTIOUS INTERFERENCE WITH CONTRACTUAL RELATIONS; COMMON LAW MISAPPROPRIATION; AND TRESPASS
Post by: Unimatrix47 on January 12, 2011, 01:59:00 AM
Post by: steveo1978 on January 12, 2011, 03:30:00 AM
Post by: Ultra_Extreme on January 12, 2011, 05:57:00 AM
The interesting part in my view is that they claim "irreversible and irrepairable damage" has been done by Hotz, means the PS3 truly is wide open now.
The only area in which they may have a case is that they hold a statement along the lines of "hey Sony, if you want your next console to be secure give me a call" [by geo hot] which could be spun as an attempt at extortion.
Pretty feeble case however that should be concluded on precedent citing the iPod/iPhone jailbreak ruling. This is nothing more than smoke and mirrors and protocol. It was inevitable and changes nothing, however sadly it does signal the end of the PS3 and possibly even the playstation brand, there will be some serious meetings at sony!
Post by: relaxxx on January 12, 2011, 12:31:00 PM
Post by: flash360 on January 12, 2011, 06:22:00 PM
Some guy comes along and shows you how to reconnect your air con and your radio
And the car companny tries to sue them for doing so
That is why $ony is heading for another epic fail
Post by: Rustmonkey on January 12, 2011, 08:47:00 PM
Post by: Unimatrix47 on January 13, 2011, 12:02:00 AM
How is GEOHOT pronounced? Is it Gee-Hot? Gee-Eee-Ooo-Hote?
Post by: relaxxx on January 13, 2011, 09:04:00 AM
QUOTE(steveo1978 @ Jan 12 2011, 07:02 PM)
if they release a an update that tried to change that combination to the door (the key people have) everything that has been release for the PS3 will be useless so an update could not fix this.
Basically I mean an update would contain a new key for new releases and modified authentication for old key software. Of course they have to maintain backwards compatibility for the old key but there are lots of additional ways to authenticate media than just the signed code itself. So basically their new 'safe' would look something like 2 doors, one old door with guards behind it and a new door with a better lock installed.
Post by: JayDee on January 13, 2011, 04:52:00 PM
http://www.cs.cmu.ed.../DeCSS/Gallery/
"This is the source code for the CSS descrambling algorithm that was posted anonymously to the LiViD mailing list in October 1999. The C code was supposedly written by someone who disassembled a software DVD player to uncover the descrambling algorithm. It was this posting that led Frank Stevenson to conduct his analysis of the CSS encryption scheme. The code was subsequently included in an unsealed (whoops!) legal filing by John Hoy, president of the DVD-CCA, in the California trade secret lawsuit against Andrew McLaughlin and 92 other defendants. Guess it's not a trade secret anymore. More about that here."
Guess what?!
No one would do the same thing again right!?
File the keys open for the public that is...
With the court docs filed as of 20110111 (LINK page 247) Sony themselves put the ROOT KEY in public domain.
Post by: hamwbone on January 13, 2011, 09:25:00 PM
QUOTE(JayDee @ Jan 13 2011, 05:52 PM)
Quick hop back in time....
http://www.cs.cmu.ed.../DeCSS/Gallery/
"This is the source code for the CSS descrambling algorithm that was posted anonymously to the LiViD mailing list in October 1999. The C code was supposedly written by someone who disassembled a software DVD player to uncover the descrambling algorithm. It was this posting that led Frank Stevenson to conduct his analysis of the CSS encryption scheme. The code was subsequently included in an unsealed (whoops!) legal filing by John Hoy, president of the DVD-CCA, in the California trade secret lawsuit against Andrew McLaughlin and 92 other defendants. Guess it's not a trade secret anymore. More about that here."
Guess what?!
No one would do the same thing again right!?
File the keys open for the public that is...
With the court docs filed as of 20110111 (LINK page 247) Sony themselves put the ROOT KEY in public domain.
That's gold... haha.
Post by: ChicagoUno6900 on January 15, 2011, 09:19:00 PM
QUOTE(JayDee @ Jan 13 2011, 05:52 PM)
Quick hop back in time....
http://www.cs.cmu.ed.../DeCSS/Gallery/
"This is the source code for the CSS descrambling algorithm that was posted anonymously to the LiViD mailing list in October 1999. The C code was supposedly written by someone who disassembled a software DVD player to uncover the descrambling algorithm. It was this posting that led Frank Stevenson to conduct his analysis of the CSS encryption scheme. The code was subsequently included in an unsealed (whoops!) legal filing by John Hoy, president of the DVD-CCA, in the California trade secret lawsuit against Andrew McLaughlin and 92 other defendants. Guess it's not a trade secret anymore. More about that here."
Guess what?!
No one would do the same thing again right!?
File the keys open for the public that is...
With the court docs filed as of 20110111 (LINK page 247) Sony themselves put the ROOT KEY in public domain.
lol
Post by: VoxAngel on January 27, 2011, 04:45:00 PM