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Title: Swapping Softmodded Xbox Hdd With Normal Xbox, Possible?
Post by: Heimdall on December 08, 2008, 06:00:00 PM
No. Your softmod disc is locked to your motherboard.
Title: Swapping Softmodded Xbox Hdd With Normal Xbox, Possible?
Post by: Heimdall on December 08, 2008, 06:55:00 PM
What do you mean "switch to an 02"?

Anyway, if your DVD is broken just swap the DVD drives - they aren't locked to the motherboard.
Title: Swapping Softmodded Xbox Hdd With Normal Xbox, Possible?
Post by: Bomb Bloke on December 08, 2008, 10:42:00 PM
QUOTE(HyeVltg3 @ Dec 9 2008, 01:29 PM) View Post
I meant if I swapped HDD with a 02...instead of the 05 (last two digits of the model number)...the last two number specify to what version the xbox is.

No, that tells you which factory made it. The version is dependent on a few other factors. But even if the systems were the exact same version, you still couldn't just swap the HDDs - Every one is locked using a unique code. It's possible to re-lock a drive, though, but that may well be more trouble then it's worth considering you've picked up a new DVD drive.

QUOTE(HyeVltg3 @ Dec 9 2008, 01:29 PM) View Post
So my only bet is to swap DVD drives, Just found the samsung, will it suffice for the thompson I have?
Just clearing this up, the seller stated the versions do not matter all DVD drives are interchangeable.

Yes, all X-Box DVD drives are interchangeable. Just stick it in and off you go.
Title: Swapping Softmodded Xbox Hdd With Normal Xbox, Possible?
Post by: Heimdall on December 09, 2008, 05:39:00 PM
What error does the new Xbox give you?

Either way, just swap the DVD drive into your original Xbox.
Title: Swapping Softmodded Xbox Hdd With Normal Xbox, Possible?
Post by: Bomb Bloke on December 10, 2008, 01:56:00 AM
As a general rule, that would be 16. Take a look at the listing in my sig.

But a console that gives an error code is usually much easier to repair then one that won't even get that far.
Title: Swapping Softmodded Xbox Hdd With Normal Xbox, Possible?
Post by: AZImmortal on December 10, 2008, 12:57:00 PM
That's definitely an Xbox 360 error screen, which means that you're now the proud owner of a broken Xbox 360.  E79 means that there's either a problem with the hard drive or with the connection to the hard drive.  The Xbox 360 will often work once the hard drive is disconnected.
Title: Swapping Softmodded Xbox Hdd With Normal Xbox, Possible?
Post by: HyeVltg3 on December 10, 2008, 02:05:00 PM
>.< I think you're highly mistanken, the seller even posted a pic of the xbox....
http://cgi.ebay.ca/w...em=140286621340 (mod's am I allowed?)

sleep.gif.....Either I'm dealing with a very dumb seller or he has his facts wrong....he could be mistaking which xbox 1/360 gives an error, lol.

But he did confirm that the above picture looks identical to his error.
Title: Swapping Softmodded Xbox Hdd With Normal Xbox, Possible?
Post by: Bomb Bloke on December 10, 2008, 03:56:00 PM
When the console turns up, odds are it'll boot to an error 16 (assuming it gives any code at all). For that you'll need to either hotswap or build an EEPROM reader. You might as well read up on those things while you wait for it.
Title: Swapping Softmodded Xbox Hdd With Normal Xbox, Possible?
Post by: HyeVltg3 on December 10, 2008, 04:01:00 PM
Really, error 16.

alright then, guess better figure out how to build an eeprom.

Any reason why you think an error 16 will appear?
>.< hope it has nothing to do with a busted mobo, those are the hardest to find, and seems difficult to install.

EDIT:...oh dear, eeprom require's hardware....Now I seriously hope....it's the hotswap you mentioned....which is...
Title: Swapping Softmodded Xbox Hdd With Normal Xbox, Possible?
Post by: lordvader129 on December 10, 2008, 04:06:00 PM
QUOTE(HyeVltg3 @ Dec 10 2008, 08:47 AM) View Post

Either the seller does not know how to shell out a proper error report....or this is exactly what he's experienced.

"Not 100% sure i thinj its e74, has to do with hard drive"

Is the exact message he gave me when I asked what sort of error it is..... sleep.gif......I've already checked the error data base and the highest it goes is 21.... sleep.gif....
Thanks Bomb Bloke for the info but I've already checked the error codes list when the seller first mentioned that he gets an error, but thanks for trying to help.

EDIT: http://farm3.static....pg?v=1205727168
Whaaaa....googled "xbox errors" so I could explain visually where the error code is located and..I found this...if the seller says e 74.....the picture shows e 79.....what?!?  why are these not in the Xbox Error Codes List?....further inquiry into the pic reveals that its from a 360.....did the xbox's made from Taiwan have different error relaying methods?

it could be an error 14, but the original xbox has no error 74

14 and 16 are both dashboard errors, they can be fixed by rebuilding the HD (access the HD might be tricky, but a hotswap shoudl work in either case)
Title: Swapping Softmodded Xbox Hdd With Normal Xbox, Possible?
Post by: AZImmortal on December 10, 2008, 06:33:00 PM
QUOTE(HyeVltg3 @ Dec 10 2008, 01:41 PM) View Post

>.< I think you're highly mistanken, the seller even posted a pic of the xbox....
http://cgi.ebay.ca/w...em=140286621340 (mod's am I allowed?)

sleep.gif.....Either I'm dealing with a very dumb seller or he has his facts wrong....he could be mistaking which xbox 1/360 gives an error, lol.

But he did confirm that the above picture looks identical to his error.

I thought that the flickr photo you linked to was from the seller.  If not, then I guess it's not possible to tell yet whether or not you'll be getting an Xbox or an Xbox 360. tongue.gif

As far as your hotswap questions go, you can refer to this FAQ.
Title: Swapping Softmodded Xbox Hdd With Normal Xbox, Possible?
Post by: HyeVltg3 on December 11, 2008, 08:56:00 PM
Just got confirmation that its an Error 07.
Title: Swapping Softmodded Xbox Hdd With Normal Xbox, Possible?
Post by: Bomb Bloke on December 12, 2008, 06:23:00 AM
Either the HDD's cabling is loose (unlikely, but check it first anyway), or the HDD is dead (far more likely).

If the drive is dead, and the console is completely unmodded (or was softmodded), then you will need to either build the EEPROM reader or install a modchip. You can't hotswap a dead drive, only replace it.
Title: Swapping Softmodded Xbox Hdd With Normal Xbox, Possible?
Post by: AZImmortal on December 12, 2008, 05:55:00 PM
From everything that I've read in this thread (it's becoming hard to follow), it seems that you already own a softmodded Xbox with a broken DVD drive, and you're about to buy another Xbox with an error code 07.  If all you want to do is replace your broken DVD drive, then as long as the new DVD drive works, then you can just replace your broken DVD drive with the new one.  There's no need to mess around with EEPROMs, error codes, etc, unless you're actually planning to revive the new Xbox.
Title: Swapping Softmodded Xbox Hdd With Normal Xbox, Possible?
Post by: HyeVltg3 on December 12, 2008, 06:41:00 PM
>_> ya you definitely did not follow the thread...so here's a refresher.

I have a soft-modded XB, its DVD is broken. I wanted to fix it. (skipping friend's transaction). Found an xbox on eBay that was modded but gets the error 07, so its being sold. Error 07 has to do with HDD failure. I thought I could just replace my soft-modded XB's HDD with the seller's and save money from buying a $60 DVD drive (seller's XB=$20)...but it appears that it is not possible as the HDD is "glued" to the mobo. So now I'm stuck with a New DVD drive AND! an Xbox with the 07 error. So now my question's changed to how to fix the error 07, and if its worth picking up the broken(seller's) XB or not.
Title: Swapping Softmodded Xbox Hdd With Normal Xbox, Possible?
Post by: Bomb Bloke on December 12, 2008, 07:54:00 PM
1) You don't want to "replace your soft-modded XB's HDD with the seller's". The seller's HDD is broken. There is absolutely no point in trying to replace your HDD with his.

2) HDD's a locked to motherboards, yes - But DVD drives are not. There's absolutely nothing stopping you from buying this console off eBay, taking the DVD drive out, and sticking it in your current X-Box to create a fully functional system.

In case you are not yet clear on this, a HDD is a "hard disk drive". The console uses this to store data internally (eg, your save games). Unmodded or softmodded consoles require locked drives, hardmodded consoles do not. A locked HDD will only function in the console it is locked to.

A DVD drive is used to read DVD discs. These are fully interchangeable between all original X-Box versions and are not ever locked.

The two are entirely separate devices inside the console.

3) My last few posts offered suggestions for fixing that error 07. My previous post covers ALL your options - if the drive is truly dead, then you either build the EEPROM reader or you install a modchip. I didn't re-mention the two above points re fixing your original console, as they were covered very early on in this thread.

4) Just as an extra point, if you can get both consoles running, you can connect them via a network cable and transfer all files through that. This means that one functional DVD drive would service two systems.
Title: Swapping Softmodded Xbox Hdd With Normal Xbox, Possible?
Post by: Bomb Bloke on December 12, 2008, 08:35:00 PM
So the eBay console is chipped, huh? Well done for finally mentioning that. I suppose this explains why you refuse to listen to the idea about switching the DVD drives.  tongue.gif

Anyway, in that case you can just shove any unlocked HDD in there.

It's quite easy to unlock your softmodded X-Box's hard drive if you wish. If the eBay console wasn't chipped, you'd then need to re-lock it for use with that system - hence the EEPROM reader (required to work out the passcode for the lock). But as that console IS chipped, you can just unlock the drive (ConfigMagic can do that for you) and shove it straight in. Boom, done, you then just need to remove the softmod from the drive by booting from a Slayers or Auto Installer Deluxe disc.

Backup your original system's EEPROM first in case you ever need to re-install the HDD in it.












Or are you just assuming that modded = chipped? If the console was softmodded, then it's as good as unmodded now... In which case the original posts I made still stand: EEPROM reader or install a modchip.
Title: Swapping Softmodded Xbox Hdd With Normal Xbox, Possible?
Post by: HyeVltg3 on December 14, 2008, 08:02:00 PM
(Weird can't edit)

Ok. so All I would need to do is use this "ConfigMagic" and....pop in the HDD...do I need to hook the HDD to my PC?..or...what? lol

First,just to clear something up, I did not choose to reject the idea of switching drives. I HAVE already bought a Samsung Drive...so switching would've been pointless..if you had read my earlier posts that notion would've been avoided.

Second, I choose to go with the "have two working xboxs" idea, was planning to give the chipped one to my friend(a does-have-xbox-friend, not friend-who-sold-his-xbox,lol).

Title: Swapping Softmodded Xbox Hdd With Normal Xbox, Possible?
Post by: Bomb Bloke on December 15, 2008, 02:14:00 AM
I apologise, the gist I got was that the broken console had the Samsung attached to it.

You will not need to put the HDD in your PC, ConfigMagic can unlock it while it's hooked up to your original console. Remember to back up that EEPROM first! ConfigMagic can also help with that (if you use it's backup function it'll extract it to the root of your E partition, from which you should then FTP it across to your PC).

Once the lock is removed, shove it in the chipped box and boot off one of the aforementioned discs. You'll probably have best results with Auto Installer Deluxe, as it starts up to UnleashX (which has a built in file manager so you can easily remove your softmod from the drive).

If you're not sure how to do that, just wipe the C partition and once that's done use the disc's other menu options to install a new dashboard.

Edit:

Wait wait wait, I'm getting confused again. If you want two working systems then you need two hard drives. Taking your HDD out of your softmodded box will cause problems. The chipped box will accept ANY unlocked +8gb HDD (an AID disc can be used to set the things up from scratch), while replacing the HDD of your softmodded system is a less simplistic task.

If you wish to install a new and larger drive in your own console, do that before installing the original drive in the chipped system.

What you've revealed of your serial shows you have either a 1.0 or a 1.1 system, both of which have a 1mb flashable TSOP. You might find things a bit easier if you flash that - I like the X2 5035 BIOS myself. Once this is done the system will act pretty much the same as a modchipped box (though "disabling" the mod for eg X-Box Live is a little more complex).
Title: Swapping Softmodded Xbox Hdd With Normal Xbox, Possible?
Post by: HyeVltg3 on December 15, 2008, 04:43:00 PM
QUOTE
Dear hyevltg3,

it stopped working with the hard drive he[seller's friend] had in it, it was 120 gig hard drive, he took it out and put in a 4gig hd then gave it to me[seller]. I[seller] was going to fix it but I just don't have the time. Thats all i know im not sure if it was a chip or software. because the 4gig HDD is not formatted to use with the xbox it doesnt work. maybe if u switch HDs it will work?



>.< .....now I've solved fixing MY box....but for this one...I'm thinking that if it is not chipped, I'm going to post a video on youtube where you'll see me smashing an Xbox to pieces!

So to avoid that...are all modchips solder in the same locations? where should I look when open this box up?
Title: Swapping Softmodded Xbox Hdd With Normal Xbox, Possible?
Post by: Bomb Bloke on December 15, 2008, 05:50:00 PM
It's also possible the box is TSOP flashed, which as mentioned is much the same as chipped (only you won't see a chip inside).

So the easiest way to tell if the box is flashed OR chipped is to boot it up and compare the flubber sequence to your softmodded box (what you see before the error screen will come up).

If the animations are exactly the same, then the box would've been softmodded.
Title: Swapping Softmodded Xbox Hdd With Normal Xbox, Possible?
Post by: Heimdall on December 16, 2008, 03:06:00 AM
QUOTE
so it works for my situation

Impossible to answer definitively until you've got the Xbox and know what your situation is - it sounds as though your seller is a little confused!!!!

If the new Xbox is chipped or flashed and the DVD drive works then you'd be better off burning a copy of Slayers or AID onto DVD-R, putting the new drive in the Xbox, and cold booting with Slayers / AID and following the instructions to prepare a new hard drive.

If it's been softmodded then you'll need to build an eeprom reader....

To fix your original Xbox just swap the new DVD drive into your old Xbox.
Title: Swapping Softmodded Xbox Hdd With Normal Xbox, Possible?
Post by: HyeVltg3 on December 16, 2008, 04:47:00 PM
Going to leave the thread untouched till Thursaday/Friday when I go to pick it up. Because right now all I/you can do is supply assumptions.
So leaving this as-is till I get the xbox in my hands.