Post by: Ninjaman on February 02, 2020, 10:52:00 PM
What are your thoughts?
According to the features:
* PS Jailbreak is a USB plug and play solution that installs in seconds, keeping your valid warranty seal in tact.
* Easy to use installer and GUI takes you step by step.
* Compatible with all production models FAT and SLIM. Supports all regions: USA, JAP, PAL and KOREA
* PS Jailbreak disables forced software updates and will never brick your console.
* Supports all games (it does not allow backups of bluray movies , dvd movies , or past consoles games)
* Backup games to your internal hard drive or external hard drive through USB, and boot directly off GUI. Eliminating the need for expensive blueray burners and costly blank media.
* Play backups off your hard drives 2x as fast as off the blueray drive. This eliminates lags and glitches to provide you with smoother game play.
* Open up your console to a new generation of homebrew applications. Load homebrew apps/games off any USB hard drive/flash drive.
* Fully updatable with new features/updates by connecting PS Jailbreak to any computers USB port.
Post by: Ninjaman on February 03, 2020, 12:39:00 AM
OzModChips.com tests Worlds First Ps3 Modchip (PSjailbreak)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jOEbZEkp9A
This post has been edited by Ninjaman: Yesterday, 08:39 AM
Post by: Hasney on August 19, 2010, 05:27:00 AM
ozmodchips.com are also pretty trust worthy and they're doing pre-orders for an August 27th ship date.
$170 AUD though
http://www.ozmodchip...-play-p-68.html
Post by: XOR101 on August 19, 2010, 06:37:00 AM
The ps3 has 1 core just to protect it from modchips etc. Do you see what you needed to do with the jtag 360 and still they patched it. And now some guy on youtube did it with a usb drive haha.
But we can always hope right
Post by: thesonandheir on February 03, 2020, 05:42:00 AM
It must be some sort of copy of a Sony device used when they go in for repair I think.
Wait and see.
Post by: p4r0l3 on February 03, 2020, 07:59:00 AM
The general consensus seems to be that this hack is legit. I'd agree that it must have something to do with exploiting repair functionality via usb.
Edit: Anyone know if this allows homebrew or just backed up retail games? I'm tempted to go out and snag a ps3 before they start to get patched
This post has been edited by p4r0l3: Yesterday, 04:04 PM
Post by: xboxbman on February 03, 2020, 08:13:00 AM
QUOTE(p4r0l3 @ Aug 19 2010, 10:59 AM) 
Saw this when I woke up this morning and checked slashdot.
The general consensus seems to be that this hack is legit. I'd agree that it must have something to do with exploiting repair functionality via usb.
Edit: Anyone know if this allows homebrew or just backed up retail games? I'm tempted to go out and snag a ps3 before they start to get patched
from my understanding it basically puts the ps3 into dev mode, so it will also run unsigned code.
Post by: Ranger72 on August 19, 2010, 09:58:00 AM
http://www.ozmodchip...-play-p-68.html
A little pricey but got to say this is likely the easiest console mod ever.
As soon as I get my chip I will post a little review of it. I just hope it works as advertised.
I never ordered anything before from this shop so I hope I didn't make a mistake.
Has anyone else ordered from these guys before?
Post by: DTR1 on February 03, 2020, 09:19:00 AM
Post by: Ranger72 on August 19, 2010, 10:45:00 AM
QUOTE(DTR1 @ Aug 19 2010, 12:19 PM) 
I have been patiently waiting for something to come about but I have to say that I will remain skeptical until I see it confirmed here. I am not so much looking for playing games but home brew and removing the restrictions of the media player. I had a PlayStation one with the card and spring trick way back in the day. Then it was a modded xbox with XBMP. I am pretty sure that XBMC will have no interest in making a port for the PS3 if it is truly hacked. My PS3 has never had an update since Oblivion was released in hopes that someone would figure it out.
Indeed. This seems to put the console in some type of debug mode. If it does then this should open the console up for full homebrew.
Biggest issue I can foresee would be that a PS3 update will soon kill this exploit. At this time ether there will need to be a firmware update for the PS Jailbreak or online use of the console will be ended with the PS network and go a separate rout of homebrew and backups only.
Or even better yet if this ends up allowing access to the kernel then maybe a custom firmware like the old PSP days that can get regular updates that will match the official ones.
Who knows only time will tell. But at least it is a start of something wonderful I hope.
Post by: DTR1 on August 19, 2010, 11:11:00 AM
QUOTE(Ranger72 @ Aug 19 2010, 11:45 AM)
Indeed. This seems to put the console in some type of debug mode. If it does then this should open the console up for full homebrew.
Biggest issue I can foresee would be that a PS3 update will soon kill this exploit. At this time ether there will need to be a firmware update for the PS Jailbreak or online use of the console will be ended with the PS network and go a separate rout of homebrew and backups only.
Or even better yet if this ends up allowing access to the kernel then maybe a custom firmware like the old PSP days that can get regular updates that will match the official ones.
Who knows only time will tell. But at least it is a start of something wonderful I hope.
I hope this is the beginning as well. This scene has been quite for a long time it will be good to see come commotion.
Post by: Valva on February 03, 2020, 10:27:00 AM
Post by: tonybologna on August 19, 2010, 12:15:00 PM
There's one thing that I still haven't seen fully answered yet unless I just miseed it. I have watched a few videos of the actual testing and proof. I think one video had an actual game in the PS3 drive and I think the other one didn't. Does there have to be a retail game disc in the PS3 drive itself in order to load a game from the HDD? Thanks guys!
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Post by: gdestiny on August 19, 2010, 05:06:00 PM
Post by: postal worker on August 19, 2010, 05:42:00 PM
not sure if i could link to other forums...so if not please deleted.
youtube video of ps3 backing up game
Post by: syntaxerror329 on August 19, 2010, 05:58:00 PM
QUOTE(tonybologna @ Aug 19 2010, 02:15 PM)
This is some good news on the PS3 hacking front. However, paying $170.00(US) for what's a USB mod that we don't know fully about yet is premature in my opinion. I'm sure there will be alternatives from the scene in the near future.
There's one thing that I still haven't seen fully answered yet unless I just miseed it. I have watched a few videos of the actual testing and proof. I think one video had an actual game in the PS3 drive and I think the other one didn't. Does there have to be a retail game disc in the PS3 drive itself in order to load a game from the HDD? Thanks guys!
I have a very strong feeling that this product can and will be cloned. I could see it being worth less then $50 in just a few weeks.
You do need to always have a actual ps3 game in the drive for this hack to work.
A friend of mine got a sample of it today. Here is a picture of the letter he got and of the dongle
Post by: sazer on August 19, 2010, 07:03:00 PM
If you order from OZModchips, use discount code gbatWC for a discount on shipping. I was able to get the FedEx 1-3 day shipping for half. I think with the code standard shipping would have been free but for just over $8, why not expedite?
I'll report back once I get mine, too.
Post by: Ranger72 on August 19, 2010, 07:27:00 PM
QUOTE(sazer @ Aug 19 2010, 09:03 PM)
Ordered mine today as well - just throwing this out there:
If you order from OZModchips, use discount code gbatWC for a discount on shipping. I was able to get the FedEx 1-3 day shipping for half. I think with the code standard shipping would have been free but for just over $8, why not expedite?
I'll report back once I get mine, too.
Wow that would have been nice to know a few hours ago.
Post by: garyopa on August 19, 2010, 07:49:00 PM
QUOTE(thesonandheir @ Aug 19 2010, 08:42 AM)
I know it sounds like a laugh compared to the JTAG hack but some other people have said its legit. Remember garyopa?
Oh'yeah, that would be ME -- Hehe, that's were I been hanging my hat over at http://psx-scene.com for a while. -- My OPA company is the hosting provider and just spent a sleepless night in the server room, throwing in more ram, 12-core cpu's and more network pipes, to handle the now sudden 30,000+ people online at once.
That's what happens when a legit mod finally appears for the PS3.
Basically yes, it is simple clone of the usb-jig used by Sony factorys to turn retail machines into debug units, with an encrypted key, much like a super-complex version of the Pandora PSP battery, but instead of simple Pandora having all >FF's in it's eeprom inside the battery, the usb-dongle has the right info and keys, to be able to install "packages" that do amazing things on your retail PS3!
For more info, just type PS3 or "jailbreak" in Google, there is thousands of sites now covering it.
But remember, "psx-scene" broke the news first, even tho we had a few server overloads, we stay ontop of it, and online, while the world was sleeping.
Stay tuned for official list of local resellers with stock that is now being shipped out!
Post by: thesonandheir on August 19, 2010, 08:16:00 PM
QUOTE(garyopa @ Aug 20 2010, 02:49 AM)
Oh'yeah, that would be ME -- Hehe, that's were I been hanging my hat over at http://psx-scene.com for a while. -- My OPA company is the hosting provider and just spent a sleepless night in the server room, throwing in more ram, 12-core cpu's and more network pipes, to handle the now sudden 30,000+ people online at once.
That's what happens when a legit mod finally appears for the PS3.
Basically yes, it is simple clone of the usb-jig used by Sony factorys to turn retail machines into debug units, with an encrypted key, much like a super-complex version of the Pandora PSP battery, but instead of simple Pandora having all >FF's in it's eeprom inside the battery, the usb-dongle has the right info and keys, to be able to install "packages" that do amazing things on your retail PS3!
For more info, just type PS3 or "jailbreak" in Google, there is thousands of sites now covering it.
But remember, "psx-scene" broke the news first, even tho we had a few server overloads, we stay ontop of it, and online, while the world was sleeping.
Stay tuned for official list of local resellers with stock that is now being shipped out!
Post by: DTR1 on August 19, 2010, 09:58:00 PM
QUOTE(Devedander @ Aug 19 2010, 10:15 PM)
So it's a tool that verifies against an encrypted key... so all they have to do to break it is release a firmware that changes the key?
Yes but if this would allow for a hacked firmware patch to be applied it could mimic an official release and or disable updates. Similar to the 9199 firmware with the Jtag hack. Does this sound right?
Post by: DTR1 on August 19, 2010, 11:43:00 PM
Date Ordered: Friday 20 August, 2010
Detailed Invoice:
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Post by: Pulsemasta on August 20, 2010, 12:20:00 AM
Also... Sony will have a firmware update to block this for sure, so people will have to keep re-figuring this out or it will just die and you can use it, and never update your PS3
s firmware... or someone will have to make a custom firmware.
Post by: ddxcb on February 04, 2020, 01:05:00 AM
Post by: DTR1 on August 20, 2010, 07:05:00 AM
QUOTE(Pulsemasta @ Aug 20 2010, 01:20 AM)
I dont think this is really a "homebrew" breakthrough. As I can tell, it just allows you to play back ups of actual PS3 games ... for any homebrew development someone would have to figure out how to program for the PS3, so a Dev kit or something would have to leak, or someone will have to make their own dev kit (which would take forever) ..... so its cool, but it doesnt make the PS3 a open book...
Also... Sony will have a firmware update to block this for sure, so people will have to keep re-figuring this out or it will just die and you can use it, and never update your PS3
s firmware... or someone will have to make a custom firmware.
This is not the end solution but rather where it all starts. It will be a long road but you cant start down that road until you have access to run unassigned code. It is possible that somebody out there has already had a leaked DEV kit but until now has had no use for it.
Not updating wont be a problem for me. The only time I have ever updated my console is when I had to update to play Oblivion.
Post by: dennyy on August 20, 2010, 10:46:00 AM
Post by: tonybologna on August 20, 2010, 12:08:00 PM
QUOTE
Also... Sony will have a firmware update to block this for sure, so people will have to keep re-figuring this out or it will just die and you can use it, and never update your PS3
s firmware... or someone will have to make a custom firmware.
s firmware... or someone will have to make a custom firmware.
Maybe c4eva and the team are working on a custom firmware as we chat!
Post by: syntaxerror329 on August 20, 2010, 12:08:00 PM
QUOTE(dennyy @ Aug 20 2010, 12:46 PM)
idk if I should buy this now or wait till it gets leaked for free to see if it actually works. i dont even own a ps3 but if this is legit i will own one by the end of the week.
It's legit and it works. I personnaly know someone that got a free sample.
But anyone that pays $130+ for this is going to feel real scammed if the device can be reproduced for very little money.
OH yeah! I love this. On thier website top left corner it says "Beware of Imitators and Chinese Knockoffs"
In other words, we know our product will be cloned quickly and it only going to be worth 20-50 in a few months. (maybe less if we can make our own)
Post by: Ranger72 on August 20, 2010, 03:13:00 PM
QUOTE(D4Ru73K @ Aug 20 2010, 05:09 PM)
Hi guys!
I've got one question about PS3 mod. How can I say, well, I'm reading ps3news now they've already ran Uncharted 2 and everything is ok but why do they need still original copy of Uncharted 2?
It's from manual PS JailBreak:
I'm not talking about one original game inside the console, I'm talking about original game you want to play from Manager. What's point of it?
It' really mod for these who want to play back up or it's a joke for $170 to copy whole original game on hard drive and play it. I mean only one thing which Sony didn't want to give us... Everything is easy to understand for me but not this one thing in quote.
Any idea? Thx in advance
What they are saying is that for a legal backup you must own the retail version of the game you are backing up.
As for loading the backup you can have ANY retail game disk in the drive and it will load any backup game, not just the one for which the disk is based off of.
Post by: crackalac on August 20, 2010, 03:40:00 PM
QUOTE(D4Ru73K @ Aug 20 2010, 04:33 PM)
Yeah, and do you believe that hackers are so polite and nice, they have made and given to whole world only possibility to install own original games because Sony never did it? And they want $170 for it? Do you believe in it? Unfortunatelly me not so what's the point?
dude, i think you already know the answer to your question. there is no piracy discussion allowed on these boards.
Post by: flash360 on August 20, 2010, 03:44:00 PM
Just google it and take a look. There is a video of it backing up topspin 3. it would be interesting to see how long it takes with ps jailbreak compared to z-pack.
Post by: Pulsemasta on August 20, 2010, 10:33:00 PM
QUOTE(flash360 @ Aug 20 2010, 10:44 PM)
This usb thingy sounds exactly like z-pack. There was a thread on here months ago about it but it got removed after a couple of days without any explanation, I presumed it was found to be fake.
Just google it and take a look. There is a video of it backing up topspin 3. it would be interesting to see how long it takes with ps jailbreak compared to z-pack.
Yeah but "Z-Pack" was obviously fake, the genius that made the video forgot that the PS3 doesn't have a windows XP browser!!! lol
I think jailbreak is either real, or the biggest scam ever. Because if its fake, there are countless people that are paying $200 for it. Only time will tell, we will have to wait until X-S members get theirs and test it to let us know.
Post by: syntaxerror329 on August 20, 2010, 10:58:00 PM
QUOTE(Pulsemasta @ Aug 21 2010, 12:33 AM)
I think jailbreak is either real, or the biggest scam ever. Because if its fake, there are countless people that are paying $200 for it. Only time will tell, we will have to wait until X-S members get theirs and test it to let us know.
Why are people still saying things like "if it is fake"
IT IS NOT FAKE!
Several major people were all sent free samples including a good friend of mine.
Post by: DTR1 on August 20, 2010, 11:09:00 PM
QUOTE(syntaxerror329 @ Aug 20 2010, 11:58 PM)
Why are people still saying things like "if it is fake"
IT IS NOT FAKE!
Several major people were all sent free samples including a good friend of mine.
Based on what I have seen and the people it is coming from I feel quite confident this is the real deal.
Now the limitations of this hack vs say a modded xbox or jtaged xbox 360 is yet to be determined. My greatest hope is that this will lead to custom firmware and homebrew like the original xbox.
Post by: Pulsemasta on August 21, 2010, 03:33:00 AM
QUOTE(DTR1 @ Aug 21 2010, 06:09 AM)
Based on what I have seen and the people it is coming from I feel quite confident this is the real deal.
Now the limitations of this hack vs say a modded xbox or jtaged xbox 360 is yet to be determined. My greatest hope is that this will lead to custom firmware and homebrew like the original xbox.
It would be great if it was as open as the original Xbox, but I doubt it will be, just because it wont be as easy for programmers.
I don't know why Sony, or anyone else would care anyway. First of all the PS3 was unhacked for how many years and was way behind in console sales, they are just now catching up to the 360... Them being behind in console sales effected 3rd party support and confidence, 3rd party company's were afraid to commit to the PS3. And I personally think IF the PS3 was easy to hack, like the WII, it would probably have more consoles sold, and if they just figured out a way to Ban people from PSN when using a hacked console, like MS does then people would still buy the games they want to play online.
So to conclude, they should just let this one go!! lol
Post by: tonybologna on August 21, 2010, 10:00:00 AM
QUOTE
So to conclude, they should just let this one go!! lol
After all this time? I'd personally love to see homebrew and something similar to a jtagged 360 on the PS3 but that's just me!
Post by: F-Forward on August 21, 2010, 03:08:00 PM
Enjoy!
Post by: Pulsemasta on August 21, 2010, 11:35:00 PM
What say all of you?? lol
Post by: F-Forward on August 22, 2010, 08:08:00 AM
QUOTE(Pulsemasta @ Aug 22 2010, 07:35 AM)
People are saying now that the guy in the video is using a Debug PS3, which is why it can run the backups and manager...
What say all of you?? lol
Lots of other people have confirmed it to work on non dev machines.
Post by: DTR1 on August 22, 2010, 11:05:00 AM
QUOTE(F-Forward @ Aug 21 2010, 04:08 PM)
Hey guys, I have created a blog where I try to put all known information so not everyone need to speculate, read all boards and so on: http://psjailbreakinfo.blogspot.com/
Enjoy!
Thanks for the effort.
So someone is selling these for $115
It looks like the price of $164 I paid may be overpriced.
I did expect them to be reproduced by someone else for much less but not just another retailer selling from the same supplier a few days later. OZ should offer a price match otherwise I can see some flaming of their site in the future.
Post by: tonybologna on August 22, 2010, 04:32:00 PM
QUOTE
So someone is selling these for $115
The suggested retail pricing for consumers is $115 for individuals. The $88 pricing for bulk(minimum 250 units) is for distributors! Thanks!
Post by: Ranger72 on August 22, 2010, 06:47:00 PM
QUOTE(DTR1 @ Aug 22 2010, 01:05 PM)
Thanks for the effort.
So someone is selling these for $115
It looks like the price of $164 I paid may be overpriced.
I did expect them to be reproduced by someone else for much less but not just another retailer selling from the same supplier a few days later. OZ should offer a price match otherwise I can see some flaming of their site in the future.Not $115 but close HERE.
Pisses me off too because that is my usual chip supplier too. I guess I need to check around more before I jump on something like this.
O well as long as I get it in a timely manner I will be happy.
Post by: Spark on August 23, 2010, 04:50:00 AM
See above.
Rediculously overpriced for what it is at the moment though.
Post by: openxdkman on August 23, 2010, 04:56:00 AM
First, a jig stick (used like a special battery on psp, but for ps3) has been kidnapped from a sony repair lab
Second, geohot memory dump methods may have helped dump enough stuff in order to fully understand how it worked.
The result is a true complete hack (backups+homebrew under gameos)
but there is a very high chance next firmware update will kill it.
So, as always, becareful if you upgrade with next fw>3.41
I'm just a bit sad that 3D blueray support is not in 3.41 yet, that may lead to an exclusive choice in future : 3D blueray or ps3 jailbreak.
Of course cheaper clones will appear, but since it seems to be a hell of reverse engineering/data dump exploration/official sdk grabbing and usage work, etc... paying more now may not be theft but correct reward for the devs involved (I doubt we will know their true identity because Sony may react hyper violently to this major security break)
Of course, DO NOT connect to PSN after booting through ps3 jailbreak method (turn off ps3, remove dongle from usb plug and unplug power cord a few seconds for total safety before powering on the ps3 again), unless you don't care about account ban.
All I hope is that sony won't drop usb support now... (joke! or not?)
(if futur batches of slim ps3's no longer have usb port, you will understand why...)
Post by: Spark on August 23, 2010, 05:12:00 AM
This thing allows l0 kernel access so for the forseeable updates will need to be done via cfw and a 3rd party updating engine before some clever chap adds code to a cfw to basically reroute the built in update engine and use sony's own technology to just dl and install custom updates on the fly from scene servers.
I agree with you completely that it will be a bad idea to log into PSN at all with this thing connected or even after the loader has been installed since it is modifying the OS so it shouldnt be difficult to detect it. Once the loader is installed it isnt easy to remove either by all accounts, I'm not even sure if a factory reset will fix it so by using this thing you are condemning yourself to an offline system and Sony are not the type to give up on this sort of thing without a fight anyway.
Tbh, who really gives a shit about PSN anyway though? It's no live no matter how hard they try to push it and PlayStation+ is a joke. Besides which, Sony have done a great job at screwing over their user-base this year and it's about time that more enlightened of us returned the favour.
Another question is by the way, does this thing actually violate the Sony or PSN ToS? It's an external accessory and whether or not it circumvents any internal security systems should be, from the end user perspective, irrelevant.
I think it's more likely that you would just see repeated attempts to block and disable the thing than outright punishment of end users for buying it.
Post by: Ranger72 on August 23, 2010, 08:06:00 AM
Post by: Technitian3 on August 23, 2010, 10:25:00 AM
QUOTE(Ranger72 @ Aug 23 2010, 07:06 AM)
I found a USA seller of these. They are offering it for $119. Never heard of them before and have no idea how trusty they are but I do know they will likely be shut down very soon but HERE it is.
These guys are based out of Belize, not the states, but you prolly get a free "ShamWow" with every order. Buyer beware.
Post by: postal worker on August 23, 2010, 12:38:00 PM
Post by: Valva on August 23, 2010, 02:19:00 PM
Post by: vildzek on August 23, 2010, 02:48:00 PM
http://psjailbreakinfo.blogspot.com/
Post by: 1nsan3 on August 23, 2010, 03:20:00 PM
remember someone WILL most likely find a way to copy this from the usb to just any usb. so i would wait for a bit... even tho 119 is a good price.. about 3 brand new games. and no, no more online updates untill we find out more.
If legit: i bet sony is in a damn HUGE hurry to fix this one. lol
Post by: niai on August 23, 2010, 09:13:00 PM
QUOTE(dumpav @ Aug 23 2010, 06:37 PM)
anyone know if the ps3 slim can take those 1tb 2.5" portable drive from WD or Seagate?
if not, what is the biggest drive it can fit/accept? thanks!
no it cant i have one and it has no sata connection its just usb soldered on to the main board for the hdd i was considering using it in my laptop when buying but the daysition was mad for me to not use it lol
Post by: jimbo40 on August 24, 2010, 11:54:00 AM
People should read this..
Post by: Ranger72 on August 24, 2010, 12:06:00 PM
QUOTE(jimbo40 @ Aug 24 2010, 01:54 PM)
This guy is assuming most of us will want to be keeping our units on PSN for online game play and such. I do believe most of us from the start assumed this would be something like the JTAG for the 360 and at the point we chose to go the homebrew rout we would forever be breaking the consoles relation with PSN. This is no big deal since just as with the 360 and jtag we would have 2 consoles. One for PSN and one for homebrew.
As for the price I agree. Way over priced for what it is. However there are 2 things to consider when it comes down to the price.
1. At the current time what other mods are available for the ps3?
2. Ease of use. Any modchip style mod that can be done without opening the console and breaking out a soldering iron is always more expensive than those that require some soldering skills and or use of a professional modder to do the work.
In the end we all know that the moment clones become available these chips will fall in price really fast.
As for the current use for this hack I too am not too impressed with just simply loading backups. What many of us hope is that this could somehow allow kernel access to at some point allow the ability to flash a custom os like the PSP custom firmware. Who knows only time will tell what may become of this.
But in the end anyone who places an order for this unit and thinks they will still enjoy PSN has only fooled themselves.
Post by: syntaxerror329 on August 24, 2010, 01:16:00 PM
QUOTE(vildzek @ Aug 24 2010, 02:25 PM)
You buy a clone then how do you update the chip ? From China makers ?
I will wait more reviews, and time will tell.
This reminds me of the Wiikey mod chip. I knew right away the fakes would work perfect. Wiikey kept saying updates won't work and then of course they all did work. I was getting wiikey's for $2.50 each or less at one point.
Same is going to be true for this device. If hackers already figure out how to dump it in a week then they will be able to dump future versions of it too.
Post by: breathofice on August 24, 2010, 04:20:00 PM
Post by: DTR1 on August 24, 2010, 08:41:00 PM
QUOTE(Ranger72 @ Aug 24 2010, 01:06 PM)
This guy is assuming most of us will want to be keeping our units on PSN for online game play and such. I do believe most of us from the start assumed this would be something like the JTAG for the 360 and at the point we chose to go the homebrew rout we would forever be breaking the consoles relation with PSN. This is no big deal since just as with the 360 and jtag we would have 2 consoles. One for PSN and one for homebrew.
As for the price I agree. Way over priced for what it is. However there are 2 things to consider when it comes down to the price.
1. At the current time what other mods are available for the ps3?
2. Ease of use. Any modchip style mod that can be done without opening the console and breaking out a soldering iron is always more expensive than those that require some soldering skills and or use of a professional modder to do the work.
In the end we all know that the moment clones become available these chips will fall in price really fast.
As for the current use for this hack I too am not too impressed with just simply loading backups. What many of us hope is that this could somehow allow kernel access to at some point allow the ability to flash a custom os like the PSP custom firmware. Who knows only time will tell what may become of this.
But in the end anyone who places an order for this unit and thinks they will still enjoy PSN has only fooled themselves.
Totally agree. I have never been on PSN for the reason I don't want Sony screwing with my console. And also with the hope that maybe an early version firmware may be vulnerable. As far as the price goes getting something right now instead of waiting an unknown amount of time is sometimes worth the extra cost. And I don't mind giving the creator of the mod I have been waiting for a long time the profit he deserves. What I don't care for is the retailer gouging me. Which obviously they did.
Post by: F-Forward on August 25, 2010, 04:20:00 PM
Post by: Ranger72 on August 26, 2010, 09:45:00 AM
QUOTE
shortage of components has forced the delay of the product's launch. There is no longer an official date for shipping to begin but the delay is expected to be anywhere from 3 days to as long as a week. Retailers will not be receiving their shipment of PS Jailbreak dongles on Friday as scheduled. Anyone telling you otherwise is either misinformed or disingenuous.
From psx-scene
Post by: syntaxerror329 on August 26, 2010, 10:06:00 AM
QUOTE(Ranger72 @ Aug 26 2010, 11:45 AM)
And people are pissed! Glad i am waiting for a cheap clone.
Post by: Ranger72 on August 26, 2010, 10:52:00 AM
QUOTE(syntaxerror329 @ Aug 26 2010, 12:06 PM)
And people are pissed! Glad i am waiting for a cheap clone.
People have been waiting for years whats a few more days matter. lol
I have a few PS3's here so if I get one for any of those I will wait for a clone. But until then the price is not an issue for me.
Post by: DTR1 on August 26, 2010, 11:28:00 AM
QUOTE(Ranger72 @ Aug 26 2010, 11:52 AM)
People have been waiting for years whats a few more days matter. lol
I have a few PS3's here so if I get one for any of those I will wait for a clone. But until then the price is not an issue for me.
They are probably trying to save on shipping and they have probably gotten more orders than anticipated. Instead of shipping out what they have on hand they are waiting to get a larger number in and ship all at once for lower shipping cost.
I have been waiting for years as well and don't mind a few more days/weeks either.
Post by: BoNg420 on August 27, 2010, 05:19:00 AM
Post by: garyopa on August 27, 2010, 08:13:00 AM
Post by: Ranger72 on August 27, 2010, 09:11:00 AM
QUOTE(garyopa @ Aug 27 2010, 10:13 AM)
Yup I knew I should have ordered from my normal chip supplier. lol
Post by: DTR1 on August 27, 2010, 09:21:00 AM
QUOTE(garyopa @ Aug 27 2010, 09:13 AM)
On Oz's site it now says out of stock but I have yet to receive a refund.
Now here is the weird part. I received an email yesterday from modchip.ca saying I have placed an order with them? Which I did not.
EMAIL>>>>>>>>>
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I wonder if they sold my order to Modchip.ca
Post by: Ranger72 on August 27, 2010, 10:42:00 AM
Post by: syntaxerror329 on August 27, 2010, 11:03:00 AM
QUOTE(xboxbman @ Aug 27 2010, 11:26 AM)
I got one of those emails from them too, but I have not ordered the mod.
It would be really smart if oz mod chips can work together with this canadian company to get around this court order but i have not heard any official statment from oz mod chips on this. I am sure we will hear something by the end of the day.
I heard OZ has huge money tied up in this so if he doesn't do something he could be out alot of money.
Post by: p4r0l3 on August 27, 2010, 11:39:00 AM
^ Interesting info on the hack; looks like even if the PSjailbreak shipments get stopped, there may be a German replacement in the works.
Post by: syntaxerror329 on August 27, 2010, 12:40:00 PM
QUOTE(tdream @ Aug 27 2010, 02:22 PM)
Good. Germans are more efficient anyway.
I already got some insider info on clones and they are going to be here really fast and i am certain they will be selling for no more then $50. I know if i had a preorder somewhere i would be trying to get out of it.
Post by: jameswalker on August 28, 2010, 04:29:00 AM
QUOTE(BoNg420 @ Aug 27 2010, 09:19 PM)
The price is really a ripoff, for something that probably cost them less then $5 to make. I mean $50 would be a good price, but going over $100, that is just insane. I think they are what like $125-150 on sites, that's just straight outrageous.
So I suppose windows should be a few dollars then
Post by: DTR1 on August 28, 2010, 07:44:00 AM
QUOTE(BoNg420 @ Aug 27 2010, 06:19 AM)
The price is really a ripoff, for something that probably cost them less then $5 to make. I mean $50 would be a good price, but going over $100, that is just insane. I think they are what like $125-150 on sites, that's just straight outrageous.
Things are worth what people are willing to buy them for and if the price is to high then they wont be competitive and they wont sell any. Supply and demand will do it's job. The creator of this hack probably realized as soon as he starts shipping these somebody will clone it and sell it cheaper. I have said before that I am happy to let the person who created this get some material rewards for his ingenuity.
On another note the email from modchip.ca is an advertisement cleverly disguised as a receipt for sale. Smart move. I apparently ordered something from them in 2008 and am on their distribution list. I sent a ticket in to OZ telling them that I wanted a full refund if they cannot ship the item requested. But after I sent it I checked and they never charged my card anyway.
Post by: Martinchris23 on August 28, 2010, 11:04:00 AM
Post by: BenJeremy on August 28, 2010, 06:38:00 PM
QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Aug 28 2010, 12:04 PM)
Wondering if when the code is released, if a USB header could be used to emulate it....
No.
The interface between the jig and the PS3 is not the USB Protocol. It is a form of I2C Bus, a serial protocol. Most hardware, such as on your PC, MP3 player, or phone uses standard ASICs that already "talk" USB protocol.
Sony developed a custom ASIC on the PS3 so they could have a proprietary "Jig" protocol, allowing them to access low level functionality on consoles, even if a bad flash bricked them. This is detected and implemented on startup, before the USB port is "initialized" as an actual USB port.
As we currently understand it, the PSJailbreak jig is not an actual copy of the official Sony service jig, but actually exploits the low level protocol to inject code to gain full access to the system. They claim it has no actual copyrighted Sony code in it, too. It seems that the PS3 firmware already contains the code to operate as a "Dev box" and the jig injects code to activate this mode.
So, in short, there will be no "emulation" of the jig by USB Flash drives, or through PC/iPhone/Android/etc USB ports.
On the other hand, the protocol has been completely sniffed out, and is understood. Clones are also out. The parts to make a jig would probably cost you $20~30 to throw together. It would be more bother than it's worth to try and subvert a PC USB port, even if you could.
Clones are already close to market, and will cost less than half of what the PSJailBreak is charging.
What I'd like to see is Team Xecuter create their version of the jig, with a USB passthrough that becomes active AFTER the jig "goes green", allowing users the convenience of not having to plug/unplug USB peripherals as part of the boot up procedure. Even better if the device was basically a block that plugged into aLL of the ports, and provided switched passthroughs for ALL of the ports, allowing you to keep all of your peripherals plugged in at once.
I'm holding off a bit longer for a cheaper clone before I invest in a PS3... I'd also like to find a COMPLETE SDK in the usual places (wink wink, whoever might have it) and maybe I could fire up some MXM-like backup manager action for the PS3 homebrew scene.
Post by: DTR1 on August 29, 2010, 06:44:00 PM
I guess they are going to try and hold our money until they get the legal mess cleaned up or are forced to refund us without paying the restocking fee.
28/08/2010 - Hello Everyone. On Friday the 27/08/2010 we where given some documents from the Lawyers representing Sony. The documents are Federal Court orders for a temporary injunction.
The Injunction states that from 24 hours of receiving the documents to the 31st of August OzModChips, Quantronics, Modsupplier and anyone else in Australia:
* Give up all stock in our possession, including our sample
I guess it was lucky that the device was delayed by a couple of days. While many people that have received their sample and sent it off to cloners....we sent ours to a well known homebrew developer. The developer we picked showed us various homebrew applications that he had already developed for ps3 dev units, that he wants to port over to retail units. Yes, PS3 homebrew is real and will start flowing through at a steady rate as soon as next week.
* Give up any stock we get between now and the 31st
We are not getting any between these times
* Ozmodchips also cannot:
o Import
o distribute
o Offer
o provide
o or deal with PS Jailbreak devices
These are from the Federal Court of Australia.
All 3 Australian stores we appear in court in some form on the 31st of August. On the 31st the court will decide if there will be a continuation of the "ban" or if we are allowed to sell them.
Our views are the same as Quantronics who posted this info here. This is not OzModChips Vs Sony. This is not OzModChips, Quantronics, Modsupplier Vs Sony. We would go as far as saying that is not even everyone in Australia Vs Sony. This will effect everyone that plans to buy such a device world wide. It already sets a dangerous precedent. Everyone that was using OtherOS, everyone that has had a faulty PS3 laser....and those interested in PS3 custom firmware and homebrew applications. We cannot do it alone, we need the support of everyone the homebrew community, the media, engineers that understand the inner workings and anyone else that can provide support.
Regarding orders:
If the injunction becomes permanent we will refund everyone that has ordered from us. If it doesn't then we will send all orders as originally planned. There will be no delay to the planned shipping date. We would ask everyone to wait until then. We have the money sitting in our account which will cover 100% refunds for everyone if that needs to happen. We kindly ask everyone to just hold off until the 31st, as we need all the time we can to prepare.
Thank you for your support!
-OzModChips Team
Post by: Ranger72 on August 29, 2010, 06:55:00 PM
Sony is just shitting themselves right now trying every tactic they can think of to put a stop to this. But in the end it will have done no good. The cat is out of the bag now.
Post by: DTR1 on September 03, 2010, 07:53:00 AM
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Hello,
Thanks for your email.
Considering that the injunction in Australia still stands we will refund anyone that cannot wait until the final outcome.
The process is that
1. We send your info to our accountant
2. our accountant processes the refund
3. We tell you its been refunded.
We are sending your details now. Considering the insane amount of preorders we got, and now obviously the large amount of refunds to process, the refund can take 1~3 business days.
Once refunded, we will let you know, and it will show up on your card between 1 and 5 business days, depending on your credit card. We charge cards in AUD, and refund in AUD. Depending on exchange rates you might get a couple cents more, or a couple of cents less, we have no control over that.
If you paid via bank deposit, please reply to this ticket (not another one) with your FULL bank details, account name, number (if you are in australia) and your IBAN/swift etc, if you are Overseas
You don\'t need to do anything else, the process has already started.
If you want to order from someone else, and we had to recommend someone, it would be www.modchipcentral.com
Thanks
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Post by: looop69 on September 09, 2010, 10:14:00 AM
Dear ______ ______,
We have decided to not carry the psjaibreak device.
By popular demand we have decided to carry this product:
https://www.modchip....r...704&cat=306
Post by: syntaxerror329 on September 09, 2010, 10:22:00 AM
Looks good too me.
Post by: Negrutzu on September 13, 2010, 01:05:00 PM