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Title: PS3 iSO Loader Being Tested?
Post by: PS3Scene on January 25, 2007, 11:17:00 PM
PS3 iSO Loader Being Tested?
Posted by XanTium | 26-1-2007 1:17 EST

 
From ps3news.com:
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Today the GODS @ Paradox have released Tiger_Woods_PGA_Tour_07_USA_PS3-PARADOX which is the last remaining USA PS3 title that currently needed dumping. For those interested, the size is 6.85 GB (7,365,525,504 bytes) and the NFO File is available, and although PDX let us know they haven't had time to examine FW 1.5 yet their NFO Files states the following:

"Stop nagging about loaders - it will come if and when its ready. Now sod off and let us beta test it !"

So hopefully the BETA testing won't take long, however, there is a good chance nothing will be released publically until after the EUR PS3 release on March 23, 2007.

News-Source: ps3news.com

Title: PS3 iSO Loader Being Tested?
Post by: epsilon72 on January 26, 2007, 09:53:00 AM
...and the cat and mouse game begins....
Title: PS3 iSO Loader Being Tested?
Post by: rameysblackbelt on January 26, 2007, 10:31:00 AM
QUOTE(epsilon72 @ Jan 26 2007, 06:00 PM) *

...and the cat and mouse game begins....

YEA BILL GATE EVEN LOOKS LIKE A MOUSE  HEHEHEEHEH
Title: PS3 iSO Loader Being Tested?
Post by: Martinchris23 on January 26, 2007, 12:11:00 PM
Seeing as Sony are looking for a high attach rate to counter the losses on the PS3, this may just bury them before they even get started.

and 6.85GB? You telling me it couldn't fit on a DVD9???

Title: PS3 iSO Loader Being Tested?
Post by: ConteZero76 on January 26, 2007, 01:22:00 PM
Well, PSX and PS2 were a good revenue source for Sony, and they were full of holes like swiss cheese.
A lot of people will pick a PS3 because "you can already use pirated games", but you'll probably need a BD burner and some empty BD to actually use the hack.
So Sony is going to win if things are going that way.

And, about "size" (it's not the size, it's how you use it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ) XBox360 cannot run a game from HD-DVD, it's a design limitation, a wanted limitation, probably there's a similar approach on the PS3.
Sony focus on security in a smart way, they rely on the media...
Back when the PS2 come to light there were almost no DVD players/burners in sight, now it's almost the same about BD.
You can crack and open everything but you're bound to BD, so you cannot pirate anything without a $600 BD burner and $20-30 for each media (and the bandwidth needed to download 20+ Gb for a title in the near future)... now tell me... do you think that there will be a pirated market soon ?

Heck, BD burners and media will become cheaper with time only if they win the format war...
So in the end Sony could win the format war, you'll be enjoying a modded PS3 and Sony will be getting money for their format... or Sony could lose the format war so pirating a game would be expensive and difficoult...

This post has been edited by ConteZero76: Jan 26 2007, 09:34 PM
Title: PS3 iSO Loader Being Tested?
Post by: necrolop on January 26, 2007, 01:40:00 PM
why do you post this bullshit? When something is real, proven and released, then let us know. Did you know that I already cracked the PS3? I can even dump blurays to DVD-Rs, and I can get them to work on an Xbox 360 as well. Ill release the hacks once I work the bugs out.
Title: PS3 iSO Loader Being Tested?
Post by: ConteZero76 on January 26, 2007, 01:46:00 PM
Well, you're right but we aren't talking about a nameless crew here, we're talking about Paradox.
It's definitely not a fake.
Title: PS3 iSO Loader Being Tested?
Post by: crackhbob on January 26, 2007, 07:11:00 PM
ConteZero76.... unless I'm way off base, the idea of an iso loader would be to load the iso as an image off of the HDD. If that were the case, it completely invalidates your theory about 600$ burners and 30$ media.
Title: PS3 iSO Loader Being Tested?
Post by: infamous_Q on January 26, 2007, 07:55:00 PM
yeah that'd be the point of an iso loader...kind of like how xmbc let you run games off the harddrive, except this one probably mimics the actual blu-ray drive and tells the system the disc is actually in the drive.
Title: PS3 iSO Loader Being Tested?
Post by: purepwnage12560 on January 26, 2007, 09:18:00 PM
goodbye sony
Title: PS3 iSO Loader Being Tested?
Post by: XLNC on January 27, 2007, 04:58:00 AM
QUOTE(ConteZero76 @ Jan 26 2007, 10:29 PM) *

Heck, BD burners and media will become cheaper with time only if they win the format war...
So in the end Sony could win the format war, you'll be enjoying a modded PS3 and Sony will be getting money for their format... or Sony could lose the format war so pirating a game would be expensive and difficoult...


ISO loader is pretty self explanatory, don't know where you got the idea that we need any media to play backups, all we need is a large harddrive.

If they were trying to hack the blu ray drive then I can understand where you're coming from, but the drive is only used to dump the games.
Title: PS3 iSO Loader Being Tested?
Post by: oxjeremy334 on January 27, 2007, 07:41:00 AM
I don't necessarily see the point of saying "Goodbye Sony," especially because this could actually help them at least an incremental bit on winning the Next Gen format war.  This will no doubt hurt them on profitability on the specific game console side if pirates decided to go in the PS3 direction due to the fact it is (will be) really easy to run pirated games.  Losing roughly $200 a system and not making it up on software sales...well, I think you see the point.  But if the hardware sales increase, then this will give sony addition leverage on pushing BD format onto the market through movie sales, and the royalties gained on the BD movie sales will be more profitable than the gaming sales could ever hope to be.
Title: PS3 iSO Loader Being Tested?
Post by: tscotsman on January 27, 2007, 01:26:00 PM
That would be the case if the encryption for blu ray hadnt been hacked. sure as hell we will see dumps for blu-ray films very soon
Title: PS3 iSO Loader Being Tested?
Post by: oxjeremy334 on January 27, 2007, 03:28:00 PM
Even still, think of the m(b)illions of people who don't rip off DVD's that will start buying the movies on a High Def format in the future, and how it will look better for sony if it at least floods the market with ps3's that can play the format...it is easier to push the studios to that format...
Title: PS3 iSO Loader Being Tested?
Post by: Martinchris23 on January 27, 2007, 04:01:00 PM
QUOTE

But if the hardware sales increase, then this will give sony addition leverage on pushing BD format onto the market through movie sales, and the royalties gained on the BD movie sales will be more profitable than the gaming sales could ever hope to be.


Out of interest, does anyone know how much Sony make from each BluRay movie sold?
Title: PS3 iSO Loader Being Tested?
Post by: oxjeremy334 on January 28, 2007, 02:18:00 AM
QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Jan 28 2007, 12:08 AM) View Post

Out of interest, does anyone know how much Sony make from each BluRay movie sold?

I think that depends on the deals negotiated with each studio.  But if Sony can hands down beat out the competition, then those studios that did not hop on the BD bandwagon can be in for some serious royalty payments.
Title: PS3 iSO Loader Being Tested?
Post by: heartofalion on January 28, 2007, 02:48:00 PM
would this iso loader be based in linux or the ps3 OS?
Title: PS3 iSO Loader Being Tested?
Post by: chigga102 on January 28, 2007, 03:25:00 PM
You know what would be better than an iso loader. drivers for the gpu
Title: PS3 iSO Loader Being Tested?
Post by: spoonman440 on March 15, 2007, 08:08:00 PM
So this would work like the PS2 HD loader? Or would we need to transfer the files to the PS3 through the internet or PC? Also to play online you'd prob  need the real disc. correct?
Title: PS3 iSO Loader Being Tested?
Post by: openxdkman on March 18, 2007, 03:07:00 AM
I've got a US v1.31 PS3, and I'm ready to work on GPU driver...

But I wait for the Paradox exploit description. I have the feeling one of the SPE's that hypervisor is keeping away from Linux grasp is used like vu1 is used on ps2, i.e a 'vertex shader' pre-processor feeding RSX GPU.
So it may be necessary to use the exploit to unlock the access to that last SPE (i.e the 7th, since the 8th is faulty and non officialy existing).

For those interested in NVidia RSX, try to not update your firmware until we know more about the exploit (be strong and resist the envy...)

(I remind you the potential reward : +256 Mb of VRAM!)

This post has been edited by openxdkman: Mar 18 2007, 10:22 AM
Title: PS3 iSO Loader Being Tested?
Post by: rameysblackbelt on March 19, 2007, 02:49:00 AM
QUOTE(openxdkman @ Mar 18 2007, 09:38 AM) View Post

I've got a US v1.31 PS3, and I'm ready to work on GPU driver...

But I wait for the Paradox exploit description. I have the feeling one of the SPE's that hypervisor is keeping away from Linux grasp is used like vu1 is used on ps2, i.e a 'vertex shader' pre-processor feeding RSX GPU.
So it may be necessary to use the exploit to unlock the access to that last SPE (i.e the 7th, since the 8th is faulty and non officialy existing).

For those interested in NVidia RSX, try to not update your firmware until we know more about the exploit (be strong and resist the envy...)

(I remind you the potential reward : +256 Mb of VRAM!)

well think how many dont do it so they have that sell plus walmart and all the rental stores trust me man they still will get rich ok no matter how many are hacked still have to rent them to copy right still makes them more money ok
Title: PS3 iSO Loader Being Tested?
Post by: Chancer on March 19, 2007, 07:34:00 AM
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