Post by: PS3Scene on December 13, 2007, 11:24:00 PM
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Post by: RBJTech on December 14, 2007, 03:59:00 AM
- so they promote Blu-Ray with it's huge storage of uncompressed video / sound on one hand, then try and outdo MS on the other saying they can use DivX to compress cut scene movies ... which is it ... ?Anyway - everyone knows that both the HD-WMV and H.264 are superior to DivX for HD content - so again, why would developers want to use an old DivX codec ... ?
Post by: fiya on December 14, 2007, 04:44:00 AM
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Post by: bucko on December 14, 2007, 07:26:00 AM
Post by: anonim1979 on December 14, 2007, 08:48:00 AM
The ones based on hacked MPEG4-2 asf libraries?
Post by: the_nerdy on December 14, 2007, 08:15:00 AM
The only thing I don't understand is, the PS3 is supposed to be a powerhouse. So, why does this matter to save on resources?
But, as long as no quality is lost, imagine all the extra space on the discs our games can have
.See, the X360 is doing fine now, but the ps3 is designed to be in the next gen console list still. So when the X360 falls behind, games will be developed for the PS3, of course, Microsoft by then will release another console I'm sure.
Post by: toytown on December 14, 2007, 10:11:00 AM
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Just so you all know, you dont understand divix, their is a new H format of it or whatever which provides Divx to be coded in HD with lossless quality.
The new DIVX format is just using H264/AVC, they purchased mainconcept for it, rather than try to develop there own codec. Its nothing new at all, NeroRecod/x264/Mainconcept/Ateme etc etc etc have all been able to code in this format for sometime (i.e. years)
Lossless quality is available via H264/AVC and has been for some time, the problem is that its only usefull if your starting with an uncompressed source. If you took a DVD rip of 4GB and encoded it using lossless compression then the final file would end up over 20GB and sometimes a lot lot more. Like i said its only usefull if you have the source material and your trying to keep it lossless.......for consumers its practically useless as almost every video you get on your computer will be lossy to begin with, the only exception i can think of right now is when taking video from a game in lossless format.
Post by: spinr34 on December 14, 2007, 11:39:00 AM
Post by: bucko on December 14, 2007, 11:47:00 AM
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See, the X360 is doing fine now, but the ps3 is designed to be in the next gen console list still. So when the X360 falls behind, games will be developed for the PS3, of course, Microsoft by then will release another console I'm sure.
Then the PS3 will become last gen
gotta love the noobs..
Post by: Apidya on December 14, 2007, 03:25:00 PM
It's suppose to be a cuttin edge console & yet all they can do is add an out of date 8 year old divx codec. Rubbish... wake me up when I can stream MKV
Post by: lmaolmao on December 14, 2007, 03:55:00 PM
QUOTE(RBJTech @ Dec 14 2007, 07:24 AM) 
Anyway - everyone knows that both the HD-WMV and H.264 are superior to DivX for HD content - so again, why would developers want to use an old DivX codec ... ?
yea, me and my nan we're arguing over what the optimal value for maximum consecutive b frames was just this afternoon!
its not a dig at you, your comment tickled me.
Post by: the_nerdy on December 14, 2007, 05:35:00 PM
QUOTE(bucko @ Dec 14 2007, 01:23 PM)
Then the PS3 will become last gen
gotta love the noobs..Dude, you got to remmeber, The ps3 ahs a blueray drive built in, cell processing, It was way way more powerfull then the Xbox360. The only problem is, it is not cost effiecent at all. Most of the games for the PS3 are on the X360. So why not just get the X360 for now? The PS3 is basicly designed for the next generation of consoles. And Sony thought by doing this (and the price) would couse developers to develope for the PS3 since it has all this extra power with basicly no limitations, The only problem is, no none wanted to develope for it since many PS3's were not out on the market. And everyone had a X360 allready and people know that when the X360 was in millions of homes by then, it made more since....
Hope you can finally understand, noob.
Post by: Thraxen on December 14, 2007, 06:38:00 PM
QUOTE(spinr34 @ Dec 14 2007, 12:39 PM)
LOL, this makes me laugh. i forgot that most ps3 games have lame fmv for 90% of the game.
Say what? That's not even remotely true.
Anyway, WTF guys? This article is just saying that the PS3's implementation gives devs more options. It's not saying that it's replacing everything else.
Post by: kidkinetix on December 15, 2007, 12:54:00 AM
QUOTE(Thraxen @ Dec 15 2007, 03:14 AM)
Say what? That's not even remotely true.
Anyway, WTF guys? This article is just saying that the PS3's implementation gives devs more options. It's not saying that it's replacing everything else.
I agree, this is positive news, no need to take cheap shots at the PS3 or the Blu-Ray drive. To me the Blu-Ray for games argument was desperate at the best of times, but i don't think this announcement is enough fuel to re-kindle that already monstrously debated fire.
Post by: FCTE on December 15, 2007, 07:06:00 AM
Post by: sabbath_dude on December 15, 2007, 07:32:00 AM
QUOTE(the_nerdy @ Dec 15 2007, 01:11 AM)
Hope you can finally understand, noob.
I think you might have totally missed why bucko found your post funny. I don't see why the PS3 with all its power, Blu-ray and built in hard drive would need to bother about using a compressed video format like DivX for in game cut scenes. I'm also not seeing why this is a "one up" on the Xbox 360?. I don't think it'll really make much difference with regard to "better load times, less power consumption, and less heat output". Who is Danny Mendez anyway and why do we care what he thinks?.
Post by: tutu on December 15, 2007, 07:33:00 AM
QUOTE(PS3Scene @ Dec 14 2007, 06:24 AM)
PS3 one ups Xbox 360 with its DivX support
Xbox 360 one ups with DivX support now.... and not a feature that's not available yet. I'm still waiting for the "emotion engine" of the PS2...
Post by: desertboy on December 15, 2007, 07:51:00 AM
If you're not enough of a geek to run Linux you should probably stick to the 360 (Unless you want to buy a machine that still works in a year).
I wouldn't trade my PS3 for 2 360's I have to say but I'm more a PC gamer anyway and my PC kicks the ass of both the PS3 and 360 so there.
MKV is a container like AVI not a codec.
Post by: Foolscrow on December 15, 2007, 12:06:00 PM
MS announced they were adding Divx support, and released it shortly thereafter. Sony announced they were adding it, and well...nothing yet; only more promises.
It's a disturbing trend this generation. Sony trumps up the capabilities and potential, but has issues with delivering on the promises.
I'm starting to agree with a post that I've seen elsewhere on the net: Sony = Soon...Only Not Yet.
Post by: ludacrisvp on December 15, 2007, 03:06:00 PM
QUOTE(bucko @ Dec 14 2007, 08:26 AM)
Again an article that proves Blu-Ray is not needed for games....getting my PS3 at Xmas..can't believe games are going to be using Divx for cut-scenes instead of MPEG2 uncompressed....
I am going to bet that the Divx support will be used more in the downloadable content rather than on the Blu-Ray disc itself.
They could have the downloadable version of the game use less space if they have the FMV in Divx rather than MPEG2. Faster download and less hard drive space used.
I also see this being used in Home. The advertising / game trailers will be streaming Divx instead.
Post by: minooch on December 16, 2007, 09:13:00 PM
QUOTE(desertboy @ Dec 16 2007, 02:27 AM)
Actually PS3 one up's the xbox360 on media player support simply because a properly installed and configured Ubuntu (insert linux distro here) plays far more than the 360, without linux though I wouldn't have bothered buying one.
If you're not enough of a geek to run Linux you should probably stick to the 360 (Unless you want to buy a machine that still works in a year).
I wouldn't trade my PS3 for 2 360's I have to say but I'm more a PC gamer anyway and my PC kicks the ass of both the PS3 and 360 so there.
MKV is a container like AVI not a codec.
PC, Likewise. so much better than 360,Wii & PS3. & FASTER!
Post by: chameleonindabox on December 16, 2007, 10:47:00 PM
QUOTE(minooch @ Dec 17 2007, 05:49 AM)
PC, Likewise. so much better than 360,Wii & PS3. & FASTER!
Depends, PCs definitely have power but they are simply not as reliable in terms of stability. I got Orange Box for my PC and already have gone through 2 random crashes to desktop for no reason. My computer has plenty of power for it. Other than that, the game plays fine (except for some steam issues) but I'm still thinking that I should have gotten it for the 360.
Post by: toytown on December 17, 2007, 10:22:00 AM
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PCs definitely have power but they are simply not as reliable in terms of stability
Is that a joke?
Post by: Thraxen on December 17, 2007, 07:27:00 PM
Post by: minooch on December 17, 2007, 10:30:00 PM
QUOTE(chameleonindabox @ Dec 17 2007, 05:23 PM)
Depends, PCs definitely have power but they are simply not as reliable in terms of stability. I got Orange Box for my PC and already have gone through 2 random crashes to desktop for no reason. My computer has plenty of power for it. Other than that, the game plays fine (except for some steam issues) but I'm still thinking that I should have gotten it for the 360.
90% of problems on PC are caused by other shitty software installed on your computer, or Viruses, Adware & Spyware.
QUOTE(Thraxen @ Dec 18 2007, 02:03 PM)
Who the hell cares about a PC in this discussion? Most people aren't interested in putting a PC in their entertainment centers. That's why so many people are interested in having devices already in their entertainment center being able to play various types of video.
Yes most! But that doesn't make it the smarter choice. With a PC you need not worry about codecs. You also have the choice of what interface you want.
But hey itÂ’s a personal choice.
Post by: Martinchris23 on December 18, 2007, 10:44:00 AM
So the Sony hype machine is up and running yet again.
Tell me - if the above is true, why was the following listed in the recent 2.10 update:
"[Divx] Copyright-protected files or files that were encoded by using DivX 3.11 cannot be played. - Files that are 2GB or more cannot be played."
So how is that full functionality? I'm happily playing 4GB+ Divx files on my 360. According to the update, the PS3 can't do this.
1 up for Microsoft if you ask me...
Post by: HotKnife420 on January 12, 2008, 12:59:00 AM
QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Dec 18 2007, 07:20 PM)
"While the Microsoft's console can only playback some DivX files, the PS3 will get full DivX functionality"
So the Sony hype machine is up and running yet again.
Tell me - if the above is true, why was the following listed in the recent 2.10 update:
"[Divx] Copyright-protected files or files that were encoded by using DivX 3.11 cannot be played. - Files that are 2GB or more cannot be played."
So how is that full functionality? I'm happily playing 4GB+ Divx files on my 360. According to the update, the PS3 can't do this.
1 up for Microsoft if you ask me...
Not only that, I have a divx file that works fine on my 360, but won't play on my ps3 (says unsupported).