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Title: 300gb Seagate... Will It Work?
Post by: lordvader129 on June 13, 2008, 07:25:00 AM
QUOTE(Tiawaz @ Jun 13 2008, 03:49 AM) View Post

What are the chances that I'll be able to install the Seagate 300gb hdd now and later install a 1tb drive with what I have.

about 1:1 if you take your time and make sure you know what your doing

any recent softmod will support HDs >137gb, the only issue you might have with a 1tb drive is the SATA->IDE adaptor, but there is a thread or two about which ones work

also if you want to go to 1tb youll need xbpartitioner (and you might need it for a 300 depending on how you want it set up, all the space on F or an F and G drive)
Title: 300gb Seagate... Will It Work?
Post by: ldotsfan on June 13, 2008, 08:51:00 AM
The xbox has a fixed partition scheme: the first 8Gb is fixed: the X,Y,Z,C,E drives are system partitions and their sizes are fixed. What you can play with is F and G drives for your data. Xbpartitioner will allow you to vary the sizes of F and G and format the cluster size correctly.
Title: 300gb Seagate... Will It Work?
Post by: ldotsfan on June 21, 2008, 08:32:00 AM
QUOTE(Tiawaz @ Jun 21 2008, 11:00 PM) View Post

Will it use the max available space remaining for the F drive, like a FDISK partition utility? or will i have to do some crazy crap to adjust the size of the drive?

For maximum flexibility, don't format F with xboxhdm. Instead after your xbox hdd is already working, use xbpartitioner - which is a xbox based program to format F. You can give all available space after X,Y,Z,C,E to F that is LBA48 .06 scheme or split the available space between F and G (LBA 48 .67) or even vary the ratio between F and G.
Title: 300gb Seagate... Will It Work?
Post by: ldotsfan on June 21, 2008, 07:28:00 PM
QUOTE(Tiawaz @ Jun 22 2008, 08:08 AM) View Post

Now to issue 1...
I understand Standard Partitions and Extended partitions but have no idea what all this means. Maybe you can tell me what to do to get my F partition to read as the remaining raw storage of the drive. My screen looks like the following:
that's exactly typed up like it is on the screen... all but the rest of the 7, 8, 9 and so on down the list that are greyed out.

When I move the highlighter over either 6 or 7 the bottom (what i can see of it at least) says Free space: 0 of 300069 MB

if you could help me by telling me what to highlight, and what to do/buttons to press.. i would appreciate it alot.


Standard partitions are the C,E,X,Y,Z.

Extended partitions are the F and G.

One of the obvious buttons brings up the help screen. I can't remember, the Back button or something...
Title: 300gb Seagate... Will It Work?
Post by: Bomb Bloke on June 21, 2008, 10:41:00 PM
I found that XBPartitioner doesn't display too well if I'm set to 16:9 on the MS Dash (which kinda makes sense, given that I usually use a 4:3 TV).

Not sure how this applies to a NTSC user. I'm PAL.
Title: 300gb Seagate... Will It Work?
Post by: ldotsfan on June 22, 2008, 04:33:00 AM
QUOTE(Tiawaz @ Jun 22 2008, 02:34 PM) View Post

Now it's time to learn how dashboards work. so i can get my XBMC to start from boot. off to the unleash X forum.

Basically you need to figure out where your dash is booting from. Use the file manager in unleashX to try the various obvious folders in E:\ and try launching the default.xbe. If your dash relaunches, then that's your dash folder.

Ftp a copy of XBMC to E:\apps\XBMC and try out the default.xbe inside with the file manager. After verifying it works, you just need to move the files to the dash folder to replace the default.xbe. If you want to be extra safe, make sure you can boot from a boot disc before dash replacement. You already have eeprom backup since you did a hdd upgrade so that's your insurance policy if anything drastic goes wrong.
Title: 300gb Seagate... Will It Work?
Post by: run088 on June 22, 2008, 05:44:00 AM
From what you were saying about the xbe problems I will tell you what I do and it never fails me.A long time ago when I first started modding I ran into this same problem. I noticed some bios on default mode come with evoxdash.xbe as what it looks for and on others it looks for default.xbe
How I fix this so I dont even have to check to see which one it is
copy the xbe file somewhere else then rename the copied file then transfer the copied file back having two xbes in the folder one named default.xbe the other evoxdash.xbe this way which ever way the bios are set for you are cool.
Another thing to watch for while coping apps is dont try to copy an app while your using it sometimes this screws it up like if your dash is on c dont be booted from c when your coping on c boot off the dash to an app on e,f, or g then you can delete whats there on c or whatever and install the new files in.
Title: 300gb Seagate... Will It Work?
Post by: ldotsfan on June 22, 2008, 06:20:00 AM
QUOTE(Tiawaz @ Jun 22 2008, 07:52 PM) View Post

I'm going to rename it evoxdash.old and rename the XBMC one evoxdash and move it from the XBMC folder to the root. and hopefully all goes well. If not i still have my IDE cables hooked up to my PC, i guess i'll just unlock it wipe it and restore it to my PRE-HDD Upgrade state and we can go from there.

XBMC may be too big to relocate to C:\ so you'll need the shortcut XBE from the XBMC download (think in the tools folder or something). The shortcut xbe will become evoxdash.xbe and point to E:\apps\XBMC for example. XBMC default installation requires all the supporting files in the XBMC folder to work, not just the default.xbe alone.


Title: 300gb Seagate... Will It Work?
Post by: Bomb Bloke on June 22, 2008, 06:59:00 AM
It'll fit on C (I have it in there with about 100mb+ worth of skins as well as the MS Dash), but you might run into problems with the UserData folder (which can grow quite large as XBMC permanently caches thumbnails and stuff in there).

It certainly WON'T work if you just move the XBE file. See all those other folders in your XBMC install? Yeah, those are there for a reason.
Title: 300gb Seagate... Will It Work?
Post by: Bomb Bloke on June 22, 2008, 07:57:00 AM
Er, you want more input? What on, exactly? How to fix this? You made a backup, you have FTP access... What more is there to say?  blink.gif

As I mentioned in my very last post, if you copy the rest of XBMC to C it'll boot up just fine.

Or you can read this for more info regarding the shortcut files Ldotsfan mentioned.
Title: 300gb Seagate... Will It Work?
Post by: Tiawaz on June 22, 2008, 10:30:00 AM
the shortcut method worked beautifully. Thanks again!!

now off to the painting forums to get some ideas as to how i'm going to paint and mod this bad boy!
Title: 300gb Seagate... Will It Work?
Post by: run088 on June 22, 2008, 01:08:00 PM
I cant see the userdata file growing that big there has been alot of work on the library of xbmc and the builds of the last month or so are able to keep the userdata file at a fairly small size I know this because my library grows and so does the left over room on c.I have a library that has over 700 movie titles 30 tv shows as well as one xbox has 349 games and 24 emulators and we have not got into my music which is not that big and my pictures which is of decent size. On the xbox that I have all the games on I just checked it has 292mb free and it has everything I listed. The build I have is 6-16