Post by: throwingks on March 01, 2007, 03:32:00 PM
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The Emotion Engine-less European PlayStation 3 will offer backwards compatibility support for over 1,000 PS2 titles, according to Sony Computer Entertainment’s Phil Harrison
http://www.next-gen....c...47&Itemid=2
and
http://www.gamesindu...e.php?aid=23148
Edit: Sorry, didn't notice this thread:
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=589330
Post by: Deftech on March 02, 2007, 03:48:00 AM
Post by: bucko on March 02, 2007, 04:14:00 AM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Mar 2 2007, 10:55 AM) 
they need to worry more about actual ps3 games
yes so this is why they are pushing backwards compatibility now, for something for people to do on there PS3's.
I think M$ should employ these software devs how come Sony can emulate 1000 titles when M$ can only do like 300+. Doesn't smell right to me.
Post by: throwingks on March 02, 2007, 06:17:00 AM
Post by: Deftech on March 02, 2007, 09:07:00 AM
QUOTE(Thraxen @ Mar 2 2007, 11:29 AM)
Right... so just a few days ago before this number was known everyone was jumping on them about switching to software emulation, but now that it appears they will have better software emulation than MS people are now saying they should be worrying more about PS3 games. You aren't the first person I've seen say this exact same crap. They really can't win at this point... anything thing that happens, be it good or bad, is automatically spun to be bad to worse.
hey tough guy, quote me where I said a single thing about who emulates what..you wont because it doesnt exist.
they have NO games in the pipeline that the zombies want, not in the "near future" anyways, and they NEED them, NOW. There is no demand for the system, regardless of what those you worship spew all day.
Funny how they always say its the software that sells systems when their ps2 was underpowered by the xbox. Now they have all this power and nothing to play on it and all of a sudden its all about the power.
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They really can't win at this point... anything thing that happens, be it good or bad, is automatically spun to be bad to worse.
And whos fault is that? They deserve EVERY comment they receive, thats what happens when you shit on yourself repeatedly for almost 2 years, make fun of your competition for so called mistakes, only to end up mimicing your competition, and fumbling even more when you try to lie to consumers and cover it all up.
Sony is a pile, plain and simple
next............
Post by: throwingks on March 02, 2007, 09:53:00 AM
Could Sony turn the "Emotion Engine" into a "Hardware Scaler"?
Theory:
Sony never changed the hardware design and left in the "Emotion Engine" chip. Through software updates, everyone now uses software emulation, and the "Emotion Engine" chip is now used for "Hardware Scaling".
Neither new buyers nor early adopters could be pissed. They all have essentially, the same machine, with the same capabilities.
A huge BC library, and true hardware dedicated scaling.
/Theory
To be sure, don't update your PS3 with the update that coincides with the European launch.
Post by: dvsone on March 02, 2007, 10:43:00 AM
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we expect the list to include over 1000 PS2 titles
With all the lies that we continue to hear from sony why should we even beleive this 1000 PS2 game number?
Everything that is coming out of their PR department seems to try and reassure PS3 owners and prospective buyers that they had a successful launch, that PS3 are flying off shelves, that Blu-Ray has already won the HD format war, that 80% of PS3 owners are going to buy Blu-Ray movies, that the PS3 is a super computer and that a price cut is coming but not anytime soon because we are cost reducing so we can pass the savings to our customers after we pull functionality out and kill off our cheap SKU but it's actually the retailers fault because they don't order them but their shevles are empty so no need for a price cut till 2008.
Why would I want to buy one now? And you consider this good news, wow I'm lost for words. It sure as hell doesn't make me want to buy one.
Post by: Helliano on March 02, 2007, 12:14:00 PM
QUOTE(Thraxen @ Mar 2 2007, 08:10 PM)
I don't mean to accuse everyone of being a fanboy... it was definitely a questionable move. Though I took the stance that people should wait to the see compatibility first before claiming it was yet another Sony mistake. Even now I still want to see the list of 1000 PS2 games before declaring it a complete success. But 1000 titles IS a good start no matter how you cut it. And that's just PS2 games. It says a broad range of PS1 games are also supported... I take that to mean that even more PS1 games are compatible. I'm actually surprised Sony didn't try and pump up the number by including the PS1 games.
Sony has made a TON of mistakes. Their PR department is especially bad. But the whole hate Sony bandwagon is getting VERY old and had been getting old for quite a while now. As I stated before, 1000+ PS2 titles IS A VERY GOOD START no matter how you want to look at it. It's a POSITIVE news item. Yet what happens with the very first post? Deftech says they need to concentrate on PS3 games. W.T.F.? Are you f'ing kidding me? Somehow I doubt Sony is stopping development of Lair to put more people on software BC.
It's that sort of nonsense crap that gets old. Deftech has accused me of being a fanboy/zombie, yet in nearly every single news item about Sony he has to pop in and make some lame comment... even if it's just something stupid like a *sigh* or *yawn*. And I'm the fanboy? Spare me. Look where we are. I'm a long standing member of this forum... an XBox forum. Here are my systems [Link]. And I'm the fanboy? Even if Deftech isn't a fanboy (which is doubtful), at very least he seems incapable of posting without being an ass to anyone who has a viewpoint that differs from his own. God forbid anyone post something positive about the PS3.
/rant
Well, this fanboy bla bla and fanboy blabla is getting boring.
Lets look at the fact:
Xbox 360 Ownz it.
Post by: Thraxen on March 02, 2007, 12:35:00 PM
QUOTE(Helliano @ Mar 2 2007, 01:21 PM)
Well, this fanboy bla bla and fanboy blabla is getting boring.
Lets look at the fact:
Xbox 360 Ownz it.
Haha... I actually agree. My 360 gets more use, by far, than my other systems. My current usage would fall out like this: 360 > PS3 > XBox 1 > Wii.
Post by: Deftech on March 02, 2007, 01:06:00 PM
It may be time to bring back the 'ole sig banner that everyone loved
Oh and I never called you a fanboy, the term is overused. I used Zombie Thank You very much
quit harassing me, I'm sensitive
*SIGH*
Oh and as always, if you dont like what I type, use Ignore. Other Mods will surely step in to remove me if I break any of the precious rules. It wont kill ya to add me to Ignore.
Post by: Thraxen on March 02, 2007, 01:11:00 PM
Post by: Deftech on March 02, 2007, 01:21:00 PM
Like you said, what I post is all that matters. The rest is lies and deceit(sp?)
You might have registered long ago but you sure havent been around these gaming areas long. If you would have been, you'd know the type of person I am. Ive publicly stated that Ive despised Sony as a company since the early 90s. Ive also stated that I am a MS whore and have no shame in doing so.
Now wheres that bastard fetus or phedus or whatever? I miss that kid. Did he get expelled from school? No more school library to post from?
life sucks
Post by: Mr Invader on March 02, 2007, 04:49:00 PM
QUOTE(bucko @ Mar 2 2007, 05:21 AM)
yes so this is why they are pushing backwards compatibility now, for something for people to do on there PS3's.
I think M$ should employ these software devs how come Sony can emulate 1000 titles when M$ can only do like 300+. Doesn't smell right to me.
do you realize how many games there are for the PS2? There are nearly 1000 titles that have come out in America alone, and that number easily doubles when you consider how many japanese games there are that have never come out in America.
there are less than 800 xbox1 games
Post by: mlmadmax on March 03, 2007, 08:50:00 AM
I would love to have all 1000 of those games work to but i will believe that when i see it. It would be easy to exagerate who the hell hs over 1000 ps2 games to test. Also they don't mention any updates to add more games.
I could care less since i have a launch ps3 and don't play ps2 games on it (i have a ps2 with dms 4 and toxic os on it) so it dosn't really matter to me.
What does matter to me is sony saying we are superior with hardware backward compatability(that didn't work until recently) all other consoles cower before us. Oh wait nevermind that previous statement emulation is the way to go. That shit is jut ignornt.
Post by: throwingks on March 03, 2007, 09:55:00 AM
Post by: Rebel-Soul on March 03, 2007, 10:05:00 AM
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We need to list to fully evaluate how good 1000 games is, but at this point it's clearly a better start than MS. MS shouldn't get more credit just because the XBox has fewer games. The games don't emulate themselves, the people working on the BC still have to test each of the games they put on the list.
all things aside at least we know we can believe MS when they say things... now just because sony says oh we got 1000 games doesnt mean we should believe it... i mean look who its coming from Sony or their PR... neither of which have a good credible track record as of late.
and another point keep in mind the caliber of most PS2 games compared to xbox games (in terms of size graphics and difficulty to emulate)... never mind the fact its easier for sony to emulate ps2 games than it is for MS to emulate xbox games
Post by: mike96sc2 on March 09, 2007, 10:40:00 AM
QUOTE(Thraxen @ Mar 9 2007, 12:11 AM)
Dropping the ball or saying "we hit on all the titles people really seemed to want, short of us going back for NHL 2k2 we think we're going to wind up what we have and call it good"?
I know there's going to be a few titles people still want to see BC that won't come, but seriously, is it that big of a deal over a year since their launch?
If the PS3 had a decent library of games I don't think Sony fanboys would be so upset. Then if Sony hadn't been so arrogany over emulation Microsoft and Nintendo fanboys wouldn't be laughing.
The PS3 really needs BC in some form or another to at least attempt to satisfy those early adopter when they get tired of Resistance or Motorstorm. I mean is anything else out there even considered decent as far as their generation gaming offerings go?