Post by: incognegro on November 01, 2006, 04:28:00 AM
QUOTE
SCEA Launch Titles:
Resistance: Fall of Man
NBA 07
Genji: Days of the Blade
Third-Party Publisher Titles:
Blazing Angels Squadrons of WWII / Ubisoft
Call of Duty 3 / Activision
EA Sports Fight Night Round 3 / Electronic Arts
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion / Bethesda Softworks
F.E.A.R. / Vivendi Universal Games
Full Auto 2: Battlelines / Sega
Madden NFL 07 / Electronic Arts
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance / Activision
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire / Namco Bandai Games
NBA 2K7 / 2K Sports
Need For Speed Carbon / Electronic Arts
NHL 2K7 / 2K Sports
Ridge Racer 7 / Namco Bandai Games
Sonic the Hedgehog / Sega
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07 / Electronic Arts
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas / Ubisoft
Tony Hawk's Project 8 / Activision
Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom / Sony Online Entertainment
Nintendo Launch window list:
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Nintendo
Excite Truck
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Wii Sports (bundled with the Wii console)
Activision
Call of Duty 3
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
Rapala Tournament Fishing
Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam
World Series of Poker
Atari
Dragon Ball Z Budokai: Tenkaichi 2
Atlus
Trauma Center: Second Opinion
EA
Madden NFL 07
Need for Speed: Carbon
Konami
Elebits
Midway
The Ant Bully
The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy
Happy Feet
Rampage: Total Destruction
Sega
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz
SNK
Metal Slug Anthology
Tecmo
Super Swing Golf
THQ
Avatar: The Last Airbender
Barnyard
Cars
SpongeBob SquarePants: Creature from the Krusty Krab
Ubisoft
Far Cry: Vengeance
GT Pro Series
Monster 4x4: World Circuit
Open Season
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Red Steel
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Double Agent
Vivendi Games
Ice Age 2: The Meltdown
So I was looking at these lists and although Im getting a wii over a ps3, I found it disappointing that the lineup for the ps3 looks more impressive than the wii. Am I the only one that thinks this way?
Post by: nickthegreat on November 01, 2006, 06:29:00 AM
i for one did not buy a gamecube (i will eventually for zelda (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ) so to be honest i probably won't purchase a wii unless i get fat and need a bit of exercise............. j/k
id buy one for zelda and monkey ball, but not @ 200 quid (is that the uk price?) - ill buy one for a ton tho, maybe 150. might import one..............
Post by: incognegro on November 01, 2006, 07:31:00 AM
Sure the controller thing is cool but is that all to the system? I mean is it just a gamecube with a fancy controller? Should I save that money for a ps3 one day? Or just get some of the great 360 games coming up with the money.
This post has been edited by incognegro: Nov 1 2006, 03:34 PM
Post by: dvsone on November 01, 2006, 08:32:00 AM
The Wii has more exclusive & unique titles, but a lot of them are kids games.
I not too sure about the Wii myself, need to try it out and get a feel of it. But it's definitely going to generate more hype then the PS3 this holiday season.
Post by: Pheidias on November 01, 2006, 08:40:00 AM
this wii list seems to have some more games then the ign article states..
Post by: incognegro on November 01, 2006, 09:19:00 AM
QUOTE(dvsone @ Nov 1 2006, 04:03 PM) 
Nothing excites me too much on the PS3 lineup, Lair is the main title I'm looking forward too next year. Most titles will be, or already are on the 360 (I have a few of them). Which titles would you by incognegro?
The Wii has more exclusive & unique titles, but a lot of them are kids games.
I not too sure about the Wii myself, need to try it out and get a feel of it. But it's definitely going to generate more hype then the PS3 this holiday season.
Well on the wii, I was really looking forward to mario galaxy and wario ware.....and anymore mario kart that will be available but none of that will be available in the launch window. Excite truck is not real that interesting to me, Never was a zelda fan (yes I know, blasphemous), red steel is overrated as far as im concerned. I just want real, deep, Multiplayer type games. As far as the ps3, resistance is defly my type of game but there isn't much to talk about after that. Im not interested in multiplatform games cause I probably will have the 360 version first (I review games for my local newspaper, so i get my hands on alot of free 360 games).
QUOTE(Pheidias @ Nov 1 2006, 04:11 PM)
I read a very insightful article about the use of the wiimote. That most of the ported (or exclusively made for) games for the wii acctually were worse to play with the wiimote then they would be with a controller. But the good games that makes use of the controller to its full extent,(red steel) will be a whole new gameplay experience. But as of now I'm more disappointed towards the very lacking virtual console turnout (Japanese people can be a little more content).
this wii list seems to have some more games then the ign article states..
Is that right? Please provide a link....im very interested!
Post by: grim_d on November 01, 2006, 10:27:00 AM
QUOTE(Pheidias @ Nov 1 2006, 03:11 PM)
I read a very insightful article about the use of the wiimote. That most of the ported (or exclusively made for) games for the wii acctually were worse to play with the wiimote then they would be with a controller. But the good games that makes use of the controller to its full extent,(red steel) will be a whole new gameplay experience. But as of now I'm more disappointed towards the very lacking virtual console turnout (Japanese people can be a little more content).
this wii list seems to have some more games then the ign article states..
Whilst i fully agree games that do not take advantage of the controller may be worse to play.
But cant you use the gamecube or the wii's classic controller for it? Either way i think most people with a wii wll have either a ps3 or a 360 also, meanng any games that don't take advantage of the remote they will just buy it for their other console.
Post by: silentbob343 on November 01, 2006, 11:24:00 AM
QUOTE(incognegro @ Nov 1 2006, 11:26 AM) 
Well on the wii, I was really looking forward to mario galaxy and wario ware.....and anymore mario kart that will be available but none of that will be available in the launch window. Excite truck is not real that interesting to me, Never was a zelda fan (yes I know, blasphemous), red steel is overrated as far as im concerned. I just want real, deep, Multiplayer type games. As far as the ps3, resistance is defly my type of game but there isn't much to talk about after that. Im not interested in multiplatform games cause I probably will have the 360 version first (I review games for my local newspaper, so i get my hands on alot of free 360 games).
Is that right? Please provide a link....im very interested!
I posted a quote on another post, but here it is again. This might be what Pheidias was refering to?
QUOTE
Conclusion
Don't get me wrong, this preview wasn't intended to slate the Wii and everything it stands for. The Wii is fun to play and has some interesting titles lined up for release. What I do want to do is provide a little realism. Too many journalists are giving out the impression that the Wii will provide an unbelievable, unique experience unlike anything you will have ever played before. That the Wii remote allows for completely dynamic gameplay that will revolutionise the gaming world. These facts are half-truths, based most probably on people spending a small amount of time with the console at a booth at one of the big conventions. When you get down to the nitty gritty of the Wii you find something a bit different from the 360 and PS3, but not drastically as you may have thought/hoped.
We will soon see whether my rather less positive preview of the Nintendo Wii is correct. The console is due for release on November 19th in the US and will land in Europe on December 8th. Currently the Wii is priced at £179.99, coming with a nunchuck, Wii Sports and the Wii remote. If, however, you're looking forward to playing some multiplayer Wii Sports then get ready to shell out around £210, as you'll need to buy an extra remote which will cost you £30.
The fact that this second remote is essential for the Wii experience raises an interesting question. Peter Moore claimed, not so many months ago, that the consumer would be able to buy the Wii and 360 for less money than a Playstation 3 spawning the name 'Wii60'. In actuality the PS3 will cost around £430 but the combination of a 360 premium and a Wii with two remotes will actually be close to the £530 mark. Remember, that's without a HD DVD drive and with only a 20GB hard drive instead of the 60 GB one found in the PS3. It leads us to one final question (and our only 'wii' gag aren't we mature?) about Nintendo's upcoming gaming console: Are Nintendo and Microsoft wiieally going to Wii all over Sony? The answer, surprisingly, is maybe not.
Don't get me wrong, this preview wasn't intended to slate the Wii and everything it stands for. The Wii is fun to play and has some interesting titles lined up for release. What I do want to do is provide a little realism. Too many journalists are giving out the impression that the Wii will provide an unbelievable, unique experience unlike anything you will have ever played before. That the Wii remote allows for completely dynamic gameplay that will revolutionise the gaming world. These facts are half-truths, based most probably on people spending a small amount of time with the console at a booth at one of the big conventions. When you get down to the nitty gritty of the Wii you find something a bit different from the 360 and PS3, but not drastically as you may have thought/hoped.
We will soon see whether my rather less positive preview of the Nintendo Wii is correct. The console is due for release on November 19th in the US and will land in Europe on December 8th. Currently the Wii is priced at £179.99, coming with a nunchuck, Wii Sports and the Wii remote. If, however, you're looking forward to playing some multiplayer Wii Sports then get ready to shell out around £210, as you'll need to buy an extra remote which will cost you £30.
The fact that this second remote is essential for the Wii experience raises an interesting question. Peter Moore claimed, not so many months ago, that the consumer would be able to buy the Wii and 360 for less money than a Playstation 3 spawning the name 'Wii60'. In actuality the PS3 will cost around £430 but the combination of a 360 premium and a Wii with two remotes will actually be close to the £530 mark. Remember, that's without a HD DVD drive and with only a 20GB hard drive instead of the 60 GB one found in the PS3. It leads us to one final question (and our only 'wii' gag aren't we mature?) about Nintendo's upcoming gaming console: Are Nintendo and Microsoft wiieally going to Wii all over Sony? The answer, surprisingly, is maybe not.
Post by: incognegro on November 01, 2006, 12:17:00 PM
QUOTE(silentbob343 @ Nov 1 2006, 06:55 PM)
I posted a quote on another post, but here it is again. This might be what Pheidias was refering to?
thanx but I was hoping for the whole article.
I was never impressed by the controller, its just another nintendo gimmick. Its all about the games thats why im reconsidering, the wii launch lineup is boring really. That controller is not gonna make me like a crappy game, a game like that is crap no matter how much icing you put on it.
I credit Nintendo for thinking out of the box, though.
Post by: Pheidias on November 01, 2006, 12:53:00 PM
Wiimote a hit on cod 3
http://www.computera...e.php?id=148454
I also read another about the sam fisher game that said the control was "awful", making the game very very hard.
I'll see if I can lcate it later.
Post by: silentbob343 on November 01, 2006, 03:08:00 PM
QUOTE(incognegro @ Nov 1 2006, 02:24 PM)
thanx but I was hoping for the whole article.
I was never impressed by the controller, its just another nintendo gimmick. Its all about the games thats why im reconsidering, the wii launch lineup is boring really. That controller is not gonna make me like a crappy game, a game like that is crap no matter how much icing you put on it.
I credit Nintendo for thinking out of the box, though.
I'll dig up the article
Here it is:
http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/2006/10/26/...Hands_On/3.html
Now I still don't know if it is the article that Pheidias was refering to.
This post has been edited by silentbob343: Nov 1 2006, 11:12 PM
Post by: Pheidias on November 01, 2006, 03:32:00 PM
Post by: Reaper527 on November 01, 2006, 05:02:00 PM
QUOTE(incognegro @ Nov 1 2006, 05:59 AM)
PS3 Launch Window List:
Nintendo Launch window list:
So I was looking at these lists and although Im getting a wii over a ps3, I found it disappointing that the lineup for the ps3 looks more impressive than the wii. Am I the only one that thinks this way?
well, the ps3 launch list then you pasted, every one of the 3rd party games is either already released on the 360, or will be coming to the 360 in the very near future with the exception of untold legends and gundam (which may or may not be 360 bound, i just don't know one way or the other). i mention this because since your on x-s, i assume you have some interest in the 360 as well.
their exclusive titles don't have anything that impressive either that even comes close to being as interesting as zelda or wii sports. i think the wii launch line up looks much more impressive.
Post by: dvsone on November 01, 2006, 06:07:00 PM
Post by: Mr Invader on November 01, 2006, 07:10:00 PM
http://www.joystiq.c...control-issues/
QUOTE
After spending "several hours" with Wii Sports, IGN's Nintendo editor Matt Casamassina doesn't like the game due to flawed controls with the exception of Wii Bowling which he calls "totally rocking." Regarding Tennis, he had this to say: "You don't control anything except the swing of your player's racket. The movement of these Mii-alike athletes is all done automatically by the game. You simply swing the Wii remote back and forth to make your on-screen character do the same thing."
True dat. Though we enjoyed the game at E3, it's unproven how long the fun lasts with tennis (from our limited play test). Regarding Baseball, Casamassina contends: "When you want to throw a curve ball, you don't actually motion it, as you might suspect. No, why would you want to use a gesture for a console whose primary purpose is to promote unique and innovative ways to play? To throw a curve ball, you first select it on the D-Pad and then make a standard throwing motion."
Though no one should be expecting deep gameplay from the pack-in, a flick of the wrist puts spin on a moving bowling ball but not a breaking curve? Bush league.
True dat. Though we enjoyed the game at E3, it's unproven how long the fun lasts with tennis (from our limited play test). Regarding Baseball, Casamassina contends: "When you want to throw a curve ball, you don't actually motion it, as you might suspect. No, why would you want to use a gesture for a console whose primary purpose is to promote unique and innovative ways to play? To throw a curve ball, you first select it on the D-Pad and then make a standard throwing motion."
Though no one should be expecting deep gameplay from the pack-in, a flick of the wrist puts spin on a moving bowling ball but not a breaking curve? Bush league.
I've read in EGM an article that discussed the Wii and PS3 motion on some games. Most of the games were just too simple and not innovative enough for what could have been done. Pitty really.
Post by: twistedsymphony on November 01, 2006, 08:16:00 PM
QUOTE(incognegro @ Nov 1 2006, 05:59 AM)
So I was looking at these lists and although Im getting a wii over a ps3, I found it disappointing that the lineup for the ps3 looks more impressive than the wii. Am I the only one that thinks this way?
I don't think the PS3 launch lineup is all that impressive at all.. basicaly this is what I see when I look at that list:
SCEA Launch Titles:
BLOATWARE FPS
WHO CARES
GIANT CRAB
Third-Party Publisher Titles:
Already on the 360
Already on the 360
Already on the 360
Already on the 360
Already on the 360
Prequil was on the 360 and it bombed
Already on the 360
Already on the 360
GIANT ROBOTS
Already on the 360
Already on the 360
Already on the 360
Prequil was on the 360 and it bombed
Already on the 360
Already on the 360
Already on the 360
Already on the 360
Sequel to a crappy PSP game
I don't see anything there that really piques my intrested at all or isn't availabile on one or both of the other consoles. Maybe it's just me. Resistance is probably the best exclusive launch title they have but I've never been much of an FPS fan and Sony has a track record of making FPSs that look good but play like shit.
The Wii's lineup on the other hand has these exclusive games that I'm very interested in:
Excite Truck
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Wii Sports (bundled with the Wii console)
Trauma Center: Second Opinion
Elebits
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Red Steel
call me childish but I'm simply giddy with excitment over the idea of playing Monkeyball with the Wii remote. And while Red Steel is a shooter it looks like the gamplay mechanics are similar to that of the Police 911 arcade game but with more free movment availble. Essentially it looks like a cross between a light gun rail shooter (whice I LOVE) and an FPS (which I generally don't care for unless it's REALLY REALLY REALLY fun).
Post by: incognegro on November 01, 2006, 09:50:00 PM
Excite truck sounds okay, I made quite clear about my stance on wii sports, and red steel, im not sold on yet. Not into zelda, No warioware this year
and ele-what? 
I just don't know....I was really dissappointed in my gamecube, hope it wont be the same for the wii.
Post by: silentbob343 on November 01, 2006, 10:47:00 PM
QUOTE(incognegro @ Nov 1 2006, 11:57 PM)
Rayman is not exclusive, and im definitely getting the 360 version. I guess u guys are right. The wii lineup isn't all that bad but my question is, is it worth buying this year or should I wait it out a bit?
Excite truck sounds okay, I made quite clear about my stance on wii sports, and red steel, im not sold on yet. Not into zelda, No warioware this year (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) and ele-what? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/uhh.gif)
I just don't know....I was really dissappointed in my gamecube, hope it wont be the same for the wii.
Well, if you can wait, have friend be the test subject and let him/her buy one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Post by: nickthegreat on November 02, 2006, 02:48:00 AM
QUOTE(Pheidias @ Nov 1 2006, 04:11 PM)
games for the wii acctually were worse to play with the wiimote then they would be with a controller.
this worries me about motion sensing controllers in general...... warhawk, for example, looks good, but there isn't a hope in hell of me playing it by moving the pad if i can be more accurate with the analog
twisted - agreed on monkey ball with the wii-mote! - although the above still applies.........
Post by: dvsone on November 02, 2006, 06:09:00 AM
This post has been edited by dvsone: Nov 2 2006, 02:10 PM
Post by: twistedsymphony on November 02, 2006, 07:50:00 AM
QUOTE(incognegro @ Nov 1 2006, 11:57 PM)
Rayman is not exclusive, and im definitely getting the 360 version. I guess u guys are right. The wii lineup isn't all that bad but my question is, is it worth buying this year or should I wait it out a bit?
Excite truck sounds okay, I made quite clear about my stance on wii sports, and red steel, im not sold on yet. Not into zelda, No warioware this year
and ele-what? I just don't know....I was really dissappointed in my gamecube, hope it wont be the same for the wii.
ah you're right about Raymen, I didn't realize it was cross platform...
On a whole I'd say that NEITHER launch line up is that impressive. Though I do enjoy the Zelda titles and I'm anxious to try out anything that's using the Wii-Remote.
Really the most impressive games coming out this holiday are cross platform: Splinter Cell Double Agent, Call of Duty 3, Tony Hawk's Project 8, Rainbow Six: Vegas, Need for Speed Carbon, etc.
though I think in terms of exclusives the 360 has the advantage: Gears of War, Viva Pinata, Fuzion Frenzy 2, Dead or Alive Xtreme 2, Phantasy Star Universe, etc.
Post by: Pheidias on November 02, 2006, 09:23:00 AM
But I'd say the wiis exclusives are much more impressive then the x360 and ps3. X360 and ps3 is only rehashing, while Wii is creating new stuff
Post by: kidkinetix on November 02, 2006, 09:46:00 AM
The games I have to try this year (depending on reviews and impressions of course):
360
- Gears
- Rainbow Six Vegas
PS3
- RFOM
Wii
- Zelda
- Raving Rabids / Wario Ware
Games that I'll probably like...
360
- Cod 3 (might be more fun on the wii? online better on 360 though so...)
PS3
- Gengi
- Warhawk
... not launch titles.
Wii
- Super Swing Golf
- Red Steel
- Metal Slug
- elebits
Resistance FOM just isnt enough to justify the purchase of my PS3 yet... i'll more than likely wait until about this time next year. As for Wii, I'm not pre-ordering... I'll get one when I can walk into a shop and buy one. I'll have enough to play on 360 for a little while with Gears and Vegas... not to mention Roboblitz, i can't wait for that shit
Post by: twistedsymphony on November 02, 2006, 10:04:00 AM
QUOTE(Pheidias @ Nov 2 2006, 10:54 AM)
But I'd say the wiis exclusives are much more impressive then the x360 and ps3. X360 and ps3 is only rehashing, while Wii is creating new stuff
What makes you say the X360 and PS3 games are "rehashing"
Viva Pinata is a completely new franchise and genre bending, Gears of War is a completely new franchise and genre bending, Fuzion Frenzy 2 is a sequel but it will be the ONLY party game available on the 360, DOAX2 dropped the word "volleyball" from its title because it's got more then that now including jet ski racing, a full fledged virtual casino, and a slew of party style mini games, none of which are currently available on the 360. I can't comment on PSU as I'm not familiar with the game asside from the fact that it's fairly popular.
As for the PS3 both Genji and RFoM are new franchises AFAIK. Not to mention the PS2 really didn't have much in the way of FPS games that would make you consider RFoM a rehash of something (a rehash of what exactly?) I can't comment on Genji because as soon as see games about ancient China and Japan I fall asleep.
I'd have to disagree. Almost everything on the Wii is a sequel to a Gamecube or DS title.
Excite Truck - New but a generic racing game
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - Sequel
Wii Sports (bundled with the Wii console) - New but generic sports games
Trauma Center: Second Opinion - Sequel
Elebits - Sequel
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz - Sequel
Red Steel - New
The only three games that are completely new are excite truck, Wii Sports and Red Steel, the only thing that makes Wii Sports and Excite Truck interesting is their use of the Wii Remote, aside from that they'd just be generic racing and sports/party games. Red Steel is the only game in the Whole Wii line-up that looks to carve out a new franchise, a new genre and use fresh gameplay mechanics.
When comparing the 360 games coming out to the first wave of games it's all completely new, most of it is still fairly fresh when compared to the Xbox 1. When you compare the PS3 offerings to the PS2 Resistance stands out as something potentially fresh. As for the Wii, any Nintendo fan will tell you that they've seen most of these games on the DS and GC before, they might SEEM fresh to someone who is taking a new look at Nintendo but they're really not... It really all depends on how much they innovate with the Wii-Remote. Red Steel uses every last aspect of it and really creates it's own new genre from the gameplay alone, While games like Wii Sports, Excite Truck and Super Monkey ball will be fun and entertaining when using the Wii-remote I don't think they'll be very innovative in their use of it, from what I've seen non of them offer any sort of innovation in gameplay simply replacing analog stick control with motion control, it boosts the novelty factor but it doesn't boost the innovation of the game at all.
Of course this is my personal impression of these games, and you're entitled to your own. I'd like to know the reasoning behind your stance.
Post by: Pheidias on November 02, 2006, 11:56:00 AM
I hope you see my point I want new fresh games, games that are played in new way or plays in a way that wasn't possible before.
And to my knowledge ps2 had lots of fps, timesplitters, 007, quake, unreal etc etc(just cos they didin't have halo doesn't mean there were no fps). I've had some fun times with friends playing 4-p vs.
And just so you now every fps since the wolfenstein era has been exactly the same IMO (but we can now strafe
)Post by: incognegro on November 02, 2006, 01:46:00 PM
QUOTE(Pheidias @ Nov 2 2006, 08:03 PM)
Well the wii is the only console that wants to change the way we play. maybe the ps3 has a little bit of that too. But the x360 won't have that at all, all it has is regular old games played the way we have played games for the last 5-10 years. GoW isn't played in a new way its a 3-person shooter with a fps shooter mode, this kind of games has been around for atleast 5 years most prominently on the pc. Viva pinata is a mix between harvest moon and pokemon, just wait until you here the gotta catch em all phrases, etc etc.
I hope you see my point I want new fresh games, games that are played in new way or plays in a way that wasn't possible before.
And to my knowledge ps2 had lots of fps, timesplitters, 007, quake, unreal etc etc(just cos they didin't have halo doesn't mean there were no fps). I've had some fun times with friends playing 4-p vs.
And just so you now every fps since the wolfenstein era has been exactly the same IMO (but we can now strafe
)You know whats interesting, is that you choose to judge the 360 games based on their content saying that their not original; but if you were to judge the wii games based on their content then its a different story. Think about it, the wii lineup is essentially the DS lineup. Trauma center's been done before, warioware, smash bros. (and thats been overdone IMO), Metroid prime and brain academy etc.
you say that every FPS is the same since wolfenstien; you mean like mario kart or F-zero?
Its funny that nintendo are the original ones yet have no original franchises
Viva pinata is a is mixture of pokemon and harvest moon but think about it, how many games are a mixture of pokemon and harvest moon? two genres that nobody thought of putting together before. Everything you think is "original" has its origins in something else. Its called inspiration.
"No idea's original, there's nothing new under the sun
Its never what you do but how its done!"
Post by: Pheidias on November 02, 2006, 03:20:00 PM
And also funny of you to bring up trauma center since its one of the games that you wouldn't be able to play on any other console then the wii and DS. This is what we need new innovative games, or atleast what I want. I don't want more fps shooters, only good fps to come out since quake is f.e.a.r and that was only fun becouse of the A.I.
But all this is of course just my opinion. I've just played to much games over the years so I need something new so I can get a reboot. After that I'll probably look at shiny graphics in a new way.
"There of course is one originator
everyone else is just a copycat"
Post by: Mr Invader on November 02, 2006, 05:49:00 PM
Ridge Racer 7= 9, 9, 9, 9
Resistance: Fall of man= 9, 8, 8, 8
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire = 8, 8, 8, 8
Says alot about the PS3 killer app.
Post by: silentbob343 on November 02, 2006, 06:02:00 PM
QUOTE(Mr Invader @ Nov 2 2006, 08:20 PM)
Whats more interesting is that Ridge Racer 7 got better reviews than Resistance: Fall of Man and Mobile Suit Gundam didn't do much worse either!
Ridge Racer 7= 9, 9, 9, 9
Resistance: Fall of man= 9, 8, 8, 8
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire = 8, 8, 8, 8
Says alot about the PS3 killer app.
To me it says the Japanese don't care much for FPS games.
QUOTE
Resistance: Fall of Man = 9, 8, 8, 8
Standard FPS gameplay
Excellent netplay
Very high standard of next-generation
Ridge Racer 7 = 9, 9, 9, 9
Totally satisfactory
The amount of content is totally satisfying
The high quality of the graphics and sound are very pleasing
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire = 8, 8, 8, 8
Excellent models of Mobile Suits
Opinions on the game are divided because it relies heavily on accurate input
The systems are problematic
Great textures
Tons of optional and unlockable content
Overall it's satisfying even though opinions are divided on it
Miyazato (Sega) Golf Club = 7, 7, 7, 7
Good tempo
You can't accurately determine where your shot will fall
Doesn't really look next-generation
Genji: Days of the Blade = 7, 7, 7, 8
Camera sucks, but looks great
Challenging for beginners
Good amount of content
Good controls
Standard FPS gameplay
Excellent netplay
Very high standard of next-generation
Ridge Racer 7 = 9, 9, 9, 9
Totally satisfactory
The amount of content is totally satisfying
The high quality of the graphics and sound are very pleasing
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire = 8, 8, 8, 8
Excellent models of Mobile Suits
Opinions on the game are divided because it relies heavily on accurate input
The systems are problematic
Great textures
Tons of optional and unlockable content
Overall it's satisfying even though opinions are divided on it
Miyazato (Sega) Golf Club = 7, 7, 7, 7
Good tempo
You can't accurately determine where your shot will fall
Doesn't really look next-generation
Genji: Days of the Blade = 7, 7, 7, 8
Camera sucks, but looks great
Challenging for beginners
Good amount of content
Good controls
Notice the standard FPS gameplay comment. It wasn't bad, but you run around and shoot things with a gun. Nothing revolutionary or different from other FPS games which they, Japanese, don't care for. I like FPS games so running around with a gun and killing things is fun so standard FPS gameplay is fine by me. The only two FPS games to have "wowed" me with gameplay were Battlefield and FEAR. Although neitherr one did anything terribly innovative. You already had vehicle combat in Tribes and bullet time/Slo-Mo in Max Payne.
This post has been edited by silentbob343: Nov 3 2006, 02:05 AM
Post by: Mr Invader on November 02, 2006, 07:04:00 PM
QUOTE(incognegro @ Nov 2 2006, 02:53 PM)
You know whats interesting, is that you choose to judge the 360 games based on their content saying that their not original; but if you were to judge the wii games based on their content then its a different story. Think about it, the wii lineup is essentially the DS lineup. Trauma center's been done before, warioware, smash bros. (and thats been overdone IMO), Metroid prime and brain academy etc.
you say that every FPS is the same since wolfenstien; you mean like mario kart or F-zero?
Its funny that nintendo are the original ones yet have no original franchises
Viva pinata is a is mixture of pokemon and harvest moon but think about it, how many games are a mixture of pokemon and harvest moon? two genres that nobody thought of putting together before. Everything you think is "original" has its origins in something else. Its called inspiration.
"No idea's original, there's nothing new under the sun
Its never what you do but how its done!"
This is why i'm not going to buy a wii until more games that appeal to me come out. I could care less about mario, warioware, and donkey kong etc. I want original games.
Post by: Pheidias on November 02, 2006, 11:32:00 PM
Post by: incognegro on November 03, 2006, 03:23:00 AM
This post has been edited by incognegro: Nov 3 2006, 11:25 AM
Post by: silentbob343 on November 03, 2006, 05:18:00 AM
QUOTE(Pheidias @ Nov 3 2006, 02:03 AM)
Just cos a company/players has high hopes for a game to be a killer app. you'll never know. Who didn't think Perfect dark zero would be the game that every other game should be measured by. Rare really screwed us on that one eh..
That is very true