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http://ps3.ign.com/a...7/697656p1.html
Every game will be region-free. Doesn't that encourage imports? Why would Sony go through the trouble of prosecuting Lik-Sang? That is hypocritical. It just doesn't make sense to me.
Play-Asia watch your back. Sony may use you to get their name in the news also.
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Well... not only did Sony bring a lawsuit against Lik-Sang they SHUT THEM DOWN COMPLETELY
http://www.lik-sang....s.php?artc=3901
It's undeniable now: Sony is a douchebag.
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Furthermore, Sony have failed to disclose to the London High Court that not only the world wide gaming community in more than 100 countries relied on Lik-Sang for their gaming needs, but also Sony Europe's very own top directors repeatedly got their Sony PSP hard or software imports in nicely packed Lik-Sang parcels with free Lik-Sang Mugs or Lik-Sang Badge Holders, starting just two days after Japan's official release, as early as 14th of December 2004 (more than nine months earlier than the legal action). The list of PSP related Sony Europe orders reads like the who's who of the videogames industry, and includes Ray Maguire (Managing Director, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Ltd), Alan Duncan (UK Marketing Director, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Ltd), Chris Sorrell (Creative Director, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Ltd), Rob Parkin (Development Director, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Limited), just to name a few.
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Wow, read the comments on Eurogamer. http://www.eurogamer.net/article_discussio...rticle_id=69068
Even though Sony has been screwing Europe in every way possible, the loyalty to the PS3 remained somewhat high, I guess this was the straw that broke the camels back.
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lol, some of those comments are classic
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Fuck sony. Im fed up with this shit.
shutting down lik-sang is absolutly rediculous, i wonder what the fanboys have to say about this.
im acctually angry about this. Think ill go and play soccer with my PS2.
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Dont just talk about hating them, vote with your wallets and stop supporting the evil bastards.
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QUOTE(grim_d @ Oct 24 2006, 11:40 AM)

Fuck sony. Im fed up with this shit.
shutting down lik-sang is absolutly rediculous, i wonder what the fanboys have to say about this.
im acctually angry about this. Think ill go and play soccer with my PS2.
As a sony fan, ill just say rofl lik-sang got pooned and got what they deserved for getting theirself into this lawsuit anyways.
QUOTE(Deftech @ Oct 24 2006, 11:57 AM)
Dont just talk about hating them, vote with your wallets and stop supporting the evil bastards.
Yeah please dont buy any ps3's more for the sony fans.
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This is kinda fucked up, don't know why lik-sang is shutting down though. Psp sales couldn't have been all the lived on, and I don't even see why anyone would import japanese psp anyways, according to lik-sangs homepage the psp is region free or is that only the japanese version and that is why they lived on psp sales?
But as the way the online import community is taking this I say Sony fucked up good.
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just like EA...people will hate them (Sony) but at the end will still buy their crap. So Sony WILL be in good business for looooong time.
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QUOTE(DragoNs @ Oct 24 2006, 12:29 PM)

As a sony fan, ill just say rofl lik-sang got pooned and got what they deserved for getting theirself into this lawsuit anyways.
I am not saying lik-sang didn't do anything wrong. But, how is this in any way a good business move for Sony?QUOTE
Yeah please dont buy any ps3's more for the sony fans.
Ha. If only it worked that way. No consoles being sold the less demands there are for games. You wouldn't like it very much if people stopped buying Sony products.
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QUOTE(DragoNs @ Oct 24 2006, 05:29 PM)

As a sony fan, ill just say rofl lik-sang got pooned and got what they deserved for getting theirself into this lawsuit anyways.
Yeah please dont buy any ps3's more for the sony fans.
I hope your PS3 overheats and explodes so that you cant play crash-bandicoot racing anymore.
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QUOTE(grim_d @ Oct 24 2006, 01:03 PM)

I hope your PS3 overheats and explodes so that you cant play crash-bandicoot racing anymore.

Ahhh man.... idk what i would do without crash bandicoot.... that would be a tough loss.
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I gotta agree abit with the sony statment that is out now though. Seems abit strange to go out of business cos of lawsuits if you didn't pay nor invest any money in it. And the "classical" investigatory purposes quote is
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QUOTE(DragoNs @ Oct 24 2006, 06:06 PM)

Ahhh man.... idk what i would do without crash bandicoot.... that would be a tough loss.

im glad you differ from the fanboys and can take a joke
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I dont get it , what did they do wrong in the first place? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
Im pissed off like everyone else, I got all my gp2x stuff from that place. I just dont know where to place my anger yet.
This post has been edited by incognegro: Oct 24 2006, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(Pheidias @ Oct 24 2006, 01:22 PM)

I gotta agree abit with the sony statment that is out now though. Seems abit strange to go out of business cos of lawsuits if you didn't pay nor invest any money in it. And the "classical" investigatory purposes quote is

Sony is bringing an individual lawsuit against them from each and every country in europe... considering the lawsuites are for Trademark infringment (which puts the payout into the MILLIONS) and the fact that Lik-Sang lost the first of many lawsuits which sets a presidence (meaning all of the other impending lawsuits are a sure Loss for Lik-Sang)
Lik-Sang basically can see the wave coming and while they might have made it through the first they know they wont make it through ALL of them... Rather then just hangining on they've decided to close up shop before they loose what little money they have left. With the remaining capitol they're refunding customers who have pending orders...
If they decided to just hang on for the ride Sony would get all of their money and Lik-Sang customers would be completely screwed out of the money they've sent Lik-Sang.
They're basically doing THE RIGHT THING taking the moral high road and putting their customers before themselves.
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QUOTE(incognegro @ Oct 24 2006, 02:51 PM)

I dont get it , what did they do wrong in the first place?

Im pissed off like everyone else, I got all my gp2x stuff from that place. I just dont know where to place my anger yet.
They didn't do anything wrong really...
The un official assumed Reason Sony sued them: Lik-Sang was selling Japanese PSPs to the european market, Japanese PSPs are cheaper to import then to buy locally, even if the practice is PERFECTLY LEGAL Sony didn't appreciate the fact that it undermined their inflated European pricing, or the fact that they provided not only better prices but earlier demaned making Sony look bad because a small company could deliver Sony products better and faster then Sony themselves. NO WHERE has Sony actually come out and said that this is the case, this is simply the assumed reason behind it.
The official documented reason for the lawsuit: Trademark Infringment, Sony basically claimed that since Lik-Sang was selling PSPs before the product was officially released in Europe they were infringing on Sony's PSP trademark making European consumers believe that the PSP was actually a Lik-Sang Product.
I challange you to find a single person in all of europe who actually believe the PSP is make by Lik-Sang.
The offiical reason Sony has reported to the press: Japanese spec PSPs didn't meet European safty and power certifications and they (Sony) were just looking out for the European consumers... this is an outright LIE considering that it has NOTHING to do with the lawsuits.
Also considering the fact that the PSP was actually certified in europe. the included power adapters were not only configurably for both 120V and 240V but they also carried the "CE" logo which means they're Certified for use in Europe. Most companies make one set of hardware and certify it everywhere before they sell it anywhere even if there are small tweaks between regions. Those of you who live in the US can check your Xbox, PS2 or even your PSP if you got one and I guarantee it carries the CE logo on both the unit and the power adapter.
Anyone who claims "Lik-Sang got what they deserved" has no idea what this lawsuit was really about.
Not to mention Lik-Sang was one of the largest manufacturers of Controller adapters... good luck finding adapters to use your PS2 controller on your PC or your Xbox, or your Gamecube, or any future consoles.
The last manufacturer was going out of business a couple of years ago and Lik-Sang bought them out and kept them running to keep the market alive... not that Lik-Sang is gone, so are all the adapters. They were also one of the largest manufacturers of Cable extenders and 3rd party AV cables. (They were the ones who made the Smart Joy Frag... you can kiss any hopes and dreams of a Keyboard and mouse adapter for the 360 or PS3 goodbye).
Lik-Sang was more then just a simple importer Sony just annihilated a substantial portion of the 3rd party market.
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I'm not sure about this but my understanding is that you won't be needing a adapter to hook up your mouse and keyboard to the ps3, and you really shouldn't with the x360 either what else are you gonna use the usb ports for? Lik-sang has been a zit sony MS and Nintendo has wanted to pop for ever. They all probably celebrated this with Crystal and hookers somewhere..
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The Smart Frag Joy lets you use mouse and keyboard for in-game use. Pretty much giving you a huge advantage over anyone using a controller. I think all 3 camps are glad that device is gone because it is a form of cheating. I am not so sure they are all glad Lik-Sang is gone though. Sales are sales. All 3 are in the game for $$$.
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Thanx twisted for clearing that up.
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Lik-sang has been a zit sony MS and Nintendo has wanted to pop for ever
Why would it bother MS and Nintendo? I can understand sony...
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QUOTE(Pheidias @ Oct 24 2006, 04:30 PM)

I'm not sure about this but my understanding is that you won't be needing a adapter to hook up your mouse and keyboard to the ps3, and you really shouldn't with the x360 either what else are you gonna use the usb ports for? Lik-sang has been a zit sony MS and Nintendo has wanted to pop for ever. They all probably celebrated this with Crystal and hookers somewhere..
The PS2 offered mouse support to but it didn't mean you could use it in any game you wanted to.
If a game is going to natively support the mouse as a controller the game needs to be specifically coded to use the mouse. Despite the fact that Sony didn't have any rules against using a mouse there were only 1 or 2 games that were actually programed to use one.
Lik-Sang made a PS2 Smart Joy FRAG for this very reason... basically it emulates a controller so you can use it with any game on the console, not just the ones were the developer decided to add support.
Even though the PS3 will allow for mouse use I highly doubt you'll see very many games actually support it.
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Incognegro lik-sang even if they did reboot, got sued (and shutdown) by MS in 2002 for selling modchips, apparently the big N also had a beef with them selling flashcarts.
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QUOTE(Pheidias @ Oct 25 2006, 06:20 AM)

Incognegro lik-sang even if they did reboot, got sued (and shutdown) by MS in 2002 for selling modchips, apparently the big N also had a beef with them selling flashcarts.
I see......still kinda sux that theyre gone though, I was planning on buy a TV out for my gp2x
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QUOTE(DragoNs @ Oct 25 2006, 01:29 AM)

As a sony fan, ill just say rofl lik-sang got pooned and got what they deserved for getting theirself into this lawsuit anyways.
I have to say, even amongst the legion of posts I see in all corners of these forums, even the ones that get swept away before you have a chance to see them, that statement is the single most uninformed, ignorant, nonsenese post I've come across in many, many months.
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QUOTE(Xombe @ Oct 26 2006, 12:58 AM)

I have to say, even amongst the legion of posts I see in all corners of these forums, even the ones that get swept away before you have a chance to see them, that statement is the single most uninformed, ignorant, nonsenese post I've come across in many, many months.
No thats what this poorly moderated ps3 board is for, tons of BS.
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QUOTE(Xombe @ Oct 25 2006, 07:58 PM)

I have to say, even amongst the legion of posts I see in all corners of these forums, even the ones that get swept away before you have a chance to see them, that statement is the single most uninformed, ignorant, nonsenese post I've come across in many, many months.
heh, i posted that as a joke to get something out of the 4 people on this board that always like to talk back to anything i post. those people unnamed who think im some crazy sony only fan, which i was rather surprized not to see them quoting me and saying things like omg xbox poons sony or some stupid remark like that, delete that post if you wish as im not gaining anything from it cause it was a stupid joke, if you read further into the thread and saw me joking around even more. Any time i would try to post something serious on these boards id get flamed or something stupid like that, so now im just joking around untill the PS3 is released and maybe these boards will get better moderation.
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eh, i posted that as a joke to get something out of the 4 people on this board that always like to talk back to anything i post. those people unnamed who think im some crazy sony only fan, which i was rather surprized not to see them quoting me and saying things like omg xbox poons sony or some stupid remark like that,
But you must surely know that those four are the best most intelligent people in the world and have been sent out by their master B.G to tell the world about the Xbox and to crap on everyone that doesn't share their opinion.
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) no its the few posts above that ruin the ps3 section just like every other thread, none of you can stay on topic or add anything worth something.......thread crap some more....it has nothing to do with the moderators its the users
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it has nothing to do with the moderators its the users
True on all accounts
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no its the few posts above that ruin the ps3 section just like every other thread, none of you can stay on topic or add anything worth something
AMEN!
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QUOTE(yourM0M @ Oct 26 2006, 02:08 PM)

(IMG:
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Very true users like you and the several thousand others some who just made an account to flame and post negative threads over and over "take a look at your post history....". anyone who likes or wants to talk good about the console they love on board they think its for sees pages of crap. this board is infested, there are a couple users brave enough. You are right it is off topic but it needed to be typed.
Why can't you you just let the people who like it talk about it......if you don't like it, then whats the problem ? Enjoy whatever you like easy right ?. I like this board I love my xbox, and I like the info regarding it. Theres no reason why this board can't be like that.
I mean for godsake, do you know how much great stuff news wise has come out? You all ignore go for crap that turns around on you anyway.
take for example....
PSM3 takes ownership of its PS3
See PSM3's PS3 in action! Movies here!
but na who would want to see that we get to look at people posting about disc size and sony killing kittens.
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QUOTE(Heretic-666 @ Oct 26 2006, 04:49 PM)

I mean for godsake, do you know how much great stuff news wise has come out? You all ignore go for crap that turns around on you anyway.
take for example....
PSM3 takes ownership of its PS3See PSM3's PS3 in action! Movies here!but na who would want to see that we get to look at people posting about disc size and sony killing kittens.
What is the great news? A mag got a PS3 already? What's the big deal? They didn't disclose anything not already said on these forums. Besides you could have brought that info in sooner if they did and put it in its own proper thread. Instead, you chose to crap a thread about the contradictory measure of offering region free gaming then legally pursuing a company, and affectively shutting them down, that helps you promote that.
P.S. As far as I know, Sony never voluntarily killed a kitten. 
Edit: I have never seen as full a video of the OS before as in video 3.
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QUOTE(throwingks @ Oct 26 2006, 07:10 PM)

What is the great news? A mag got a PS3 already? What's the big deal? They didn't disclose anything not already said on these forums. Besides you could have brought that info in sooner if they did and put it in its own proper thread. Instead, you chose to crap a thread about the contradictory measure of offering region free gaming then legally pursuing a company, and affectively shutting them down, that helps you promote that.
P.S. As far as I know, Sony never voluntarily killed a kitten. (IMG:
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Edit: I have never seen as full a video of the OS before as in video 3.
He does make a valid point about the response form this section of Xbox-scene.
As far as the story I made a post about the first link and there were new tidbits disclosed about the system contained in the article. I also remember people jumping in and posting negative comments about how PSP loads time were too long and that comparison was not a good thing. Even though the reviewers intended that to be a positive point. In general it was a positive article, but people here only seem to want to focus on overheating units at trade shows and the like. Oh wait...my bad, the first link finally loaded up and it is the mag receiving their offcial PS3. I thought it was the article when a Sony rep brought a system by for them to play with. Yes, I guess nothing new was written in that piece.
That is typically how forums work though, all forums not just videogame forums. People often come on to forums to voice complaints and issues very few post are; "Everything is great and wonderful I just signed up to let everyone here know that".
The kitten comment was hyperbole and from the way some of you speak about Sony and how "evil" they are. In effect their feeling towards the company have biased their feelings towards the system.
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It's very hard to not to be critical of a product when the company is constantly lying about it and setting high expectations and constantly letting you down. Sony is the reason why there is so much hate on this forum. And the recent delays in production and campaign on banning system imports has really pissed off some people. You don't see many people dissin the Wii ... Why? ... Because everything or almost everything promised will be delivered. Just because fanboys put up with sony's sh#t doesn't mean I have to. I will buy a PS3 if sony can sell me on the product. But they have a long way to go before the system & company earns my respect again. For now, f#ck $ony.
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QUOTE(DragoNs @ Oct 26 2006, 05:59 AM)

heh, i posted that as a joke to get something out of the 4 people on this board that always like to talk back to anything i post. those people unnamed who think im some crazy sony only fan, which i was rather surprized not to see them quoting me and saying things like omg xbox poons sony or some stupid remark like that, delete that post if you wish as im not gaining anything from it cause it was a stupid joke, if you read further into the thread and saw me joking around even more. Any time i would try to post something serious on these boards id get flamed or something stupid like that, so now im just joking around untill the PS3 is released and maybe these boards will get better moderation.
so you had nothing useful to add and in fact you 'apparently' didn't even mean it - you were just trying to bait people and compound the issues this section of the board already suffers from.
otherwise known as being a troll.............
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QUOTE(dvsone @ Oct 27 2006, 06:08 AM)

It's very hard to not to be critical of a product when the company is constantly lying about it and setting high expectations and constantly letting you down. Sony is the reason why there is so much hate on this forum. And the recent delays in production and campaign on banning system imports has really pissed off some people. You don't see many people dissin the Wii ... Why? ... Because everything or almost everything promised will be delivered. Just because fanboys put up with sony's sh#t doesn't mean I have to. I will buy a PS3 if sony can sell me on the product. But they have a long way to go before the system & company earns my respect again. For now, f#ck $ony.
If you got caught up in the hype and let down, blame the guy in the mirror. You think Sony was happy about the delay and lack of supply this season? Hell no, that's less product to sell, I'm sure they are more pissed than you are about it. You are correct you don't have to put up with Sony's shit, but you also don't have to come in here and start shit and pile wood on the fire.
As far as nobody dissing the Wii, from HardOCP:
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Don't get me wrong, this preview wasn't intended to slate the Wii and everything it stands for. The Wii is fun to play and has some interesting titles lined up for release. What I do want to do is provide a little realism. Too many journalists are giving out the impression that the Wii will provide an unbelievable, unique experience unlike anything you will have ever played before. That the Wii remote allows for completely dynamic gameplay that will revolutionise the gaming world. These facts are half-truths, based most probably on people spending a small amount of time with the console at a booth at one of the big conventions. When you get down to the nitty gritty of the Wii you find something a bit different from the 360 and PS3, but not drastically as you may have thought/hoped.
We will soon see whether my rather less positive preview of the Nintendo Wii is correct. The console is due for release on November 19th in the US and will land in Europe on December 8th. Currently the Wii is priced at £179.99, coming with a nunchuck, Wii Sports and the Wii remote. If, however, you're looking forward to playing some multiplayer Wii Sports then get ready to shell out around £210, as you'll need to buy an extra remote which will cost you £30.
The fact that this second remote is essential for the Wii experience raises an interesting question. Peter Moore claimed, not so many months ago, that the consumer would be able to buy the Wii and 360 for less money than a Playstation 3 spawning the name 'Wii60'. In actuality the PS3 will cost around £430 but the combination of a 360 premium and a Wii with two remotes will actually be close to the £530 mark. Remember, that's without a HD DVD drive and with only a 20GB hard drive instead of the 60 GB one found in the PS3. It leads us to one final question (and our only 'wii' gag aren't we mature?) about Nintendo's upcoming gaming console: Are Nintendo and Microsoft wiieally going to Wii all over Sony? The answer, surprisingly, is maybe not.
I didn't post it earlier on X-S because I could care less about posting negative shit about a console on an internet forum.
This post has been edited by silentbob343: Oct 27 2006, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE(silentbob343 @ Oct 27 2006, 01:12 AM)

I also remember people jumping in and posting negative comments about how PSP loads time were too long and that comparison was not a good thing. Even though the reviewers intended that to be a positive point
Give me a break! I said that shit, and I've never seen such whining in my life! The point I was trying to make is that if you wanna instill confidence in how fast the ps3 loads then dont compare it to the PSP load times!!!!!!
I own a PSP and I always find it funny whenever I let ppl play the system and the person innocently asks if the game froze!...lol... It never fails, happens everytime when ppl play it the first time.
How can I be positive about the load times if he is comparing it to the psp? Seriously!
The thing about that article that really bothered me though is their credibility, if thats the comparison their gonna make then why use a system notorious for bad load times ( and just happen to be another sony product)? There has got to be some sort of ulterior motive.
Its not a matter of being negative, in life you have to question these things. Especially when its so blatant.
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QUOTE(incognegro @ Oct 27 2006, 08:37 AM)

Give me a break! I said that shit, and I've never seen such whining in my life! The point I was trying to make is that if you wanna instill confidence in how fast the ps3 loads then dont compare it to the PSP load times!!!!!!
I own a PSP and I always find it funny whenever I let ppl play the system and the person innocently asks if the game froze!...lol... It never fails, happens everytime when ppl play it the first time.
How can I be positive about the load times if he is comparing it to the psp? Seriously!
The thing about that article that really bothered me though is their credibility, if thats the comparison their gonna make then why use a system notorious for bad load times ( and just happen to be another sony product)? There has got to be some sort of ulterior motive.
Its not a matter of being negative, in life you have to question these things. Especially when its so blatant.
Whining, yes, that's what you MS fans come here to do. I learn from the best. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Uncle Ken promised me this and that, but he didn't deliver....(IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
For the record it was not whining, but rather illustrating a point that another member brought up.
I'm all for questioning things, but when they say loads times are quick with i.e. "think PSP". I'll assume that the load times are quick until I see another review otherwise. I see what they were trying to say in that statement. There have been some other snippets about good load times besides the PSM article as well.
I've never had the "is thing frozen experience" nor has my brother, perhaps it comes down to the games we play, admittly I have only played a handful full of PSP titles.
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if they said, load times are quick compared to the ps2. I would believe them, if the said ANY other system other than the PSP I would believe them. You obviously havent used the PSP much if you dont think the load times are long. From what I heard it has something to do with sony capping the processor speed, but thats a whole other story for another day, another forum.
My question to you though is that, with all this being said, do you not think that was a valid point and deserved to be part of that thread? Do you think that I shouldn't have brought it up , cause "it's negative"?
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QUOTE(silentbob343 @ Oct 27 2006, 01:20 PM)

If you got caught up in the hype and let down, blame the guy in the mirror. You think Sony was happy about the delay and lack of supply this season? Hell no, that's less product to sell, I'm sure they are more pissed than you are about it. You are correct you don't have to put up with Sony's shit, but you also don't have to come in here and start shit and pile wood on the fire.
As far as nobody dissing the Wii, from HardOCP:
I didn't post it earlier on X-S because I could care less about posting negative shit about a console on an internet forum.
I know people with pre-orders in my region, so I share their frustration. There was a good month of pre-orders, and I wonder why Sony left it so long to tell the public about the delay. I could suggest they import one, region free gaming, right? Hah! Go Sony!
Sorry if I flamed anyone. I come here to get the facts, and began ranting when critisim of the forum began to appear in this thread. The main point of my post was: It's hard not to be critical of a product when the company does not deliver on expectation and promise. I believe when and if Sony turn this around you will see a more positive forum.
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In all honesty I consider the PSP load times to be horrendous. I've never actually played a game on the PSP because every time I to to try one of the kiosks I get bored waiting for the game demo to load and walk off.
After reading this topic I decided to time the loading time at a PSP kiosk at Bestbuy... A demo for Some Twisted Metal game took 2 minutes and 34 seconds to load. Maybe I'm living in a bizarre world but to me that seems excessive, especially on a portable where you should be able to pick up and play 5-10minutes here and there. who knows maybe it was broken... maybe not. but 2:34 seems like an eternity to wait for something to load.
Personally I hate any kind of loading time, but it is a necessary evil unless you're playing from a cartridge.
I should hope that the PS3 has far and wide shorter loading times then the PSP.
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QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Oct 27 2006, 01:34 PM)

In all honesty I consider the PSP load times to be horrendous. I've never actually played a game on the PSP because every time I to to try one of the kiosks I get bored waiting for the game demo to load and walk off.
After reading this topic I decided to time the loading time at a PSP kiosk at Bestbuy... A demo for Some Twisted Metal game took 2 minutes and 34 seconds to load. Maybe I'm living in a bizarre world but to me that seems excessive, especially on a portable where you should be able to pick up and play 5-10minutes here and there. who knows maybe it was broken... maybe not. but 2:34 seems like an eternity to wait for something to load.
Personally I hate any kind of loading time, but it is a necessary evil unless you're playing from a cartridge.
I should hope that the PS3 has far and wide shorter loading times then the PSP.
I'll have my brother bring over twisted metal tonight and I'll time it as well. 2:34 is crazy, why the reviewers chose that as positive comparison I don't know. Maybe they had a particular title in mind or were refering to the boot-up. I'm not worried about the loads times as I've read from other sources they are quite reasonable.