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Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: sheepie on December 19, 2007, 06:51:00 AM
i tried to get my wii modded by the guy i sent it to said he could not open it and it might be sealed.

anyone know what he might mean by this?
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: crackfeen on December 19, 2007, 08:11:00 AM
if you're not worried about the warranty, why don't you try to open it yourself?
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: sheepie on December 19, 2007, 10:05:00 AM
i am going try this tonite, worried that theres somany bits to the wii i might lose some thing
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: Tortuga2112 on December 19, 2007, 10:36:00 PM
QUOTE(sheepie @ Dec 19 2007, 02:51 PM) View Post

i tried to get my wii modded by the guy i sent it to said he could not open it and it might be sealed.

anyone know what he might mean by this?


sealed?? never heard of that before, maybe HE just didn't know how to open it.

you'll need a try-wing screwdriver.
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: sheepie on December 23, 2007, 07:55:00 AM
QUOTE(Tortuga2112 @ Dec 20 2007, 08:12 AM) View Post

sealed?? never heard of that before, maybe HE just didn't know how to open it.

you'll need a try-wing screwdriver.



well the guy is an experianced modder on these forums i have friends who had thiers modded by him as well.

tried opening it up screws out etc the damed case is stuck together im scared if i try winching it open i may crack the mobo inside
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: Perplexer on December 23, 2007, 08:52:00 PM
QUOTE(sheepie @ Dec 23 2007, 10:31 AM) View Post

experianced modder on these forums

Doesn't mean a whole lot.  Your experienced modder probably can't handle a D2C install, hence the Wii is "unmoddable."

There are some screws hidden under rubber foot pads and also under rectangular white stickers.  These will need to be removed, then the case should open up easily.
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: throwingks on December 23, 2007, 09:01:00 PM
http://wiki-scene.com/Wii_disassembly

If Nintendo can seal it, you can open it. All Wiis are moddable.
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: sheepie on December 29, 2007, 08:06:00 AM
seems i made a mistake i got a wiikey but having checked wii tracker it says

QUOTE
Your Drive Chip is most likely GC2-D2B.

Your Drive Pins are most likely cut.

To help the WiiTracker become even more accurate please consider adding your actual console data to the WiiTracker database if and when you decide to open it up.


not sure how accurate the tracker is but its looking like i purchased the wrong chip   (IMG:style_emoticons/default/uhh.gif)

still gona open my wii tonite and have a look.

Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: sheepie on December 29, 2007, 05:39:00 PM
QUOTE(sheepie @ Dec 29 2007, 05:06 PM) View Post

seems i made a mistake i got a wiikey but having checked wii tracker it says
not sure how accurate the tracker is but its looking like i purchased the wrong chip   uhh.gif

still gona open my wii tonite and have a look.


i was doubting the guy who i sent it to, i followed the opening tut on http://wiki-scene.com/Wii_disassembly

i ran into a problem with the game cube ports, the thing was glued on impossible to remove, the screws holding it would only turn once then not budge, i ended up using pliers to remove them, then came the thin black sheet that according to the guinde just needs weding off, mine was glued i ended up taking it apart bit by with with acombo of a exacto knife and pliers.


http://wiki-scene.co...d/de/Wiir2s.jpg

the screws in the above pic were some way in the case covered in rubber/glue and impossible to remomve with tri screwdrivers. i spent 3 hours trying. it also jhas another 2 screwes near the top they to are impossible to remove.

all the other screws come out fine apart from them.  i took pics shall post em tommorow, looks preety much like im gonna order a replacement case and dremel thru this one

Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: ausmods on December 29, 2007, 10:00:00 PM
Hmm im going to wait for pictures before I beleive this one, but maybe we have a new type of wii on our hands?

This post has been edited by ausmods: Dec 30 2007, 06:02 AM
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: sheepie on December 30, 2007, 09:49:00 AM
this what happened when i tryied rmoving it
(IMG:http://homepage.ntlworld.com/y.a.k.a/wii%20shit/gc%20plate1.jpg)

(IMG:http://homepage.ntlworld.com/y.a.k.a/wii%20shit/gc%20plate%202.jpg)

(IMG:http://homepage.ntlworld.com/y.a.k.a/wii%20shit/gc%20plate%20removed.jpg)


these are the screws all of em have some kinda compond on making them impossible to remove
(IMG:http://homepage.ntlworld.com/y.a.k.a/wii%20shit/wii%20glued%20screws.jpg)

(IMG:http://homepage.ntlworld.com/y.a.k.a/wii%20shit/gc%20screw3.jpg)


alos been told the wii key is a clone and not a orignal, whats the best way of checking?
(IMG:http://homepage.ntlworld.com/y.a.k.a/wii%20shit/wiikey.jpg)
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: throwingks on December 30, 2007, 09:30:00 AM
That looks malicious. A D2B with cut pins is an older version. More would have popped up by now. I am not accusing you of anything, but is the only possibility, Nintendo did it?

Here is how to check out for clones:
http://wiki.nintendo...m/Wiikey#Clones
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: sheepie on December 30, 2007, 11:32:00 AM
QUOTE(throwingks @ Dec 30 2007, 07:06 PM) *

That looks malicious. A D2B with cut pins is an older version. More would have popped up by now. I am not accusing you of anything, but is the only possibility, Nintendo did it?

Here is how to check out for clones:
http://wiki.nintendo-scene.com/Wiikey#Clones



thats wot got me as none have been reported, and i dont think the guy i sent it to for modding did it, he did send it back to me within a couple of days saying its sealed. managed to ger a drill bit to remove unremovable screws, so i just need 4 right sized screws.

the console it self was purchased from shopto.net on 24/7/2007


as for the wiikey mine looks to be fake as pcb is greenish color and not blu, some luck i am having with the wii:/

This post has been edited by sheepie: Dec 30 2007, 07:35 PM
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: sheepie on January 05, 2008, 07:17:00 PM
well the small grabit removal bit were delivered on friday, had a try and managed to remove the screws.

now seems first time round when i said i removed the other screws fine, seems i missed 2 below the rubber feet. these were filled withglue or some componed as well.

preety much means no way for me to take my wii apart and in is present form i can ebay it.  now im left with a very horrible looking wii, unless anyone know of a way to break it opened so i can use the replacment xcm case i got.


and with there being no wiis reported like this, and a friend suggesting the modder i sent it to "may" have botched the install  and did this to my wii to cover his tracks. but as it is still working and running games fine this to be a bit hard to belive
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: throwingks on January 05, 2008, 07:25:00 PM
That is what it sounds like to me. Even if he botched it, it is still probably moddable. Look for lifted pads and traces. If that is all it is, then just solder directly to the corresponding leg. If the legs are cut, you may have to shave the chip a little to expose the legs. All a little more difficult, but doable.
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: sheepie on January 07, 2008, 01:11:00 PM
any ways here some pics for anyone intrested,

the tools i used for the screws

IPB Image

they helped remove the stuck screws at the GC ports

IPB Image

the screws removed on with the case tab broken

IPB Image

the blocked holes below the feet

IPB Image

this one was half filled

IPB Image

the holes after drilling, the tri holes are still filled with the compound this is making the scre impossible to remove as the grabit bits dont reach that far

IPB Image

need advice on how to remove these 2 screws,   sad.gif



Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: LEECH666 on January 08, 2008, 07:12:00 AM
Here is a very detailed disassembly guide.

http://www.xbox-modc...embly-guide.htm




If you look at this picture specifically you should notice that the holes/poles that are filled with glue on your Wii aren't too close to the motherboard. I mean the poles in each of the corners.

IPB Image


Just use a drill that doesn't exceed the diameter of the (glued) holes and drill through them.

You should be fine.

I hope that helps somehow.

Sorry for my bad english, im from Germany an i'm not too good at describing things.
But you should get the point.

LEECH666





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Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: kirky1991 on January 08, 2008, 09:32:00 AM
Thats a good idea i think, just drill the top of the screw heads of!, then be careful as they/he might have glued the side of the case together!

Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: LEECH666 on January 08, 2008, 12:44:00 PM
QUOTE(sheepie @ Jan 8 2008, 07:50 PM) View Post

thanks for the info and the pic, i shouldhave thought about this my self before. i shall try and drill thru the heads tonite
and leech666 your english is better than mine


Well, good luck to you! I hope the inside isn't as f*cked up as the outside.

 wink.gif
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: whiteblazer01 on January 09, 2008, 07:49:00 AM
That is some crazy stuff!  In anycase, I guess the insides seem okay.  I would get a different case though (so your Wii can look nice).
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: sheepie on January 12, 2008, 03:38:00 PM
opened it i drilled it at the lowest speed slowy pressing and de pressing the drill

and the guy i sent messed it up big time, the chip with the missing feet looks like it was cut way too deep

the guy i sent it to. just hop no body makes the same mistake i made and send thier wiis to be chipped.
only good thig is he refunded me the money i sent.  i dont think i can mod this, not sure i can sell it on either now. will post pics after match of the day tonite
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: sheepie on January 12, 2008, 05:09:00 PM
IPB Image

anyone know where to get the replacement drive from?
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: throwingks on January 12, 2008, 09:37:00 PM
From what I can see of the drive, you do not need a replacement. Your modder did not cut those legs. They came like that. It looks like he attempted to shave the chip to expose the legs a little bit, and just gave up.

You just need to solder your chip right to the stubs. Each leg has a corresponding pad. Whatever pad you were supposed to solder to for your chip, just solder right to the leg stub instead. It takes a little skill and your guy should have easily been able to do it.
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: Odb718 on January 12, 2008, 10:09:00 PM
Wow, this is just the lowest of the low. Glad to see you got it open though.
Does/did it still play originals? If it did it can still be modded. Not sure if I could do it or not by looking at the pictures though. It's not like it's a d2c so I don't understand why the guy had such a hard time.
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: commandersafi on January 12, 2008, 10:12:00 PM
If you still have your wii opened....Would you mind doing a quick favor for me  blink.gif

could you get a picture of the 5 gears on the right side of the dvd drive for me....My gears fell out and i need to know the arrangement of them
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: sheepie on January 13, 2008, 04:42:00 AM
the Drive still plays orignals fine.

have looked at it up close, the three legs were cut , from what it lookes like to me i think he shaved too much off ( bear in mind this is the first time i have seen a wii nekid) i have tried taking sioome closer shots of the chip
but my old sony p150 has crap zoom and focus

best i could do to show you guys

IPB Image
IPB Image


it looks like he shaved too much off to me, totally regret not doing this me self, i have little spare time due to work atm but i blame my self for this really. at leat it plays orignals i guess
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: sheepie on January 13, 2008, 07:50:00 AM
id rather not ebay it, as in my opinion its not in fit state to sell on. i know i coould but selling things when i know they are not 100% give me sleepless nights.

ive had look on ebay and there 2 types of drives available

D2B version

or

DMS/Early version

can any drive be used or would it have to be the same version with the same chip? and do wii drives need to be firmware flashed liek 360 drives?
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: kirky1991 on January 13, 2008, 08:25:00 AM
To be honest, i think its Bull***t that someone did that... You know where he live/is he close to you ? cause i would have a word with him!

Atleast it still works!!

It looks as if he has melted the chip not shaved some of ?

Good luck !

Dan
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: kirky1991 on January 13, 2008, 01:02:00 PM
Oh!, Its roughly anh hour and 15 mins away!, I would definetly have a word! I have driven further for a Mini Moto!!

It looks like a soldering iron he has used!
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: sheliak on January 13, 2008, 06:44:00 PM
Don't blame yourself.  You paid for a service, not only was that service not rendered but they damaged your Wii, lied about it, and tried to cover their tracks.  Isn't there a forum here where you can post reviews of people you have dealt with?  Cause this guy's name needs to be out there so he can be avoided.  The guy should have just told you he couldn't mod it and sent it back.  What you have there is just malicious.
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: LEECH666 on January 13, 2008, 11:32:00 PM
QUOTE(sheepie @ Jan 13 2008, 09:55 PM) View Post

well i blame my self more, i could have left it opened and slowly done it my self over a few weeks.

and as i am preety much stuck for time tgoing to manchester is a no go. at least it still works like it is. and i have ordered a DMS version of the drive as it should work


You're waaaaaaaaaaay easier off with a DMS drive. "D2B with cut legs" is like the second hardest install as of now. But replacement-drives are expensive over here. Not sure how things are in the U.S. of A.

The casing of the chip doesn't melt. Its way to resistant to heat to be melting. However heat helps to scrape of the plastic material. It might look like it's been melted but thats aktually some flux (stuff that makes solder flow) on the chip. The guy used the flux to solder the wires to the freed traces, or in this case, he did not.

I got to go now.
Work awaits.

LEECH666
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: broady81 on January 16, 2008, 03:07:00 PM
sheepie, I really do feel sorry for you. I'm relatively new to the wii mod scene, and have just got my wii installed with a YAOSM (D2B cut leg like yours). I was seriously worried about the install but got someone else to do it because the soldering is too complex considering all I have done is "breadboard" work. I sent mine off, and it was worth it for the risk and the money it cost - It works flawlessly. I live in manchester, but only know of one installer. I doubt it was him because he doesn't grind the IC cover. Wan't me to pay him/her a visit on your behalf ?  mad.gif

EDIT: Typing error
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: sheepie on January 17, 2008, 02:49:00 PM
QUOTE(broady81 @ Jan 17 2008, 12:43 AM) View Post

sheepie, I really do feel sorry for you. I'm relatively new to the wii mod scene, and have just got my wii installed with a YAOSM (D2B cut leg like yours). I was seriously worried about the install but got someone else to do it because the soldering is too complex considering all I have done is "breadboard" work. I sent mine off, and it was worth it for the risk and the money it cost - It works flawlessly. I live in manchester, but only know of one installer. I doubt it was him because he doesn't grind the IC cover. Wan't me to pay him/her a visit on your behalf ?  mad.gif

EDIT: Typing error



thanks but no, he refunduded me everything bar postage costs, isent him the wii, it came back on the 3rd day, with a not saying its sealed with question mark. and he refunded me full cost bar postage each way which i would say is fair. i could make an issue of it but i wont end of the day wii still worked, with the DMs version of the drive on its way to me i should be able to do it my self.

at the end of the day no human is perfect we all make mistakes, his was probably not telling me he screwed up, but modding/chipping comes with that risk. atleast i can play swg while the new drive comes, my back log imported gc games can wait
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: Perplexer on January 17, 2008, 04:27:00 PM
Sheepie, you really are being too sheepish.

Reputable modders would never pull a stunt like this.

This guy LIED TO YOU, and tried to COVER HIS TRACKS since he left the Wii in a state POORER THAN WHEN IT WAS RECEIVED.

He damaged your case and may have negated the possibility of getting your Wii chipped properly.

The correct thing to do in this case is to have him refund YOUR FULL SHIPPING COSTS, and also provide a replacement Wii case (original or aftermarket) since he damaged your original.

I would LOVE to know who this modder is, and I am sure many others here would, as well.  I strongly suggest that if your modder is reading this, he makes things right.

Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: sheepie on January 21, 2008, 01:11:00 PM
Perplexer, dont if i would be breaking any rules as such in naming him,

anyways the new drive got delivered today, but i seem to have problem, the screws i drill thru ive no idea what size they were? as i ned em. i did say i had an xcm case handy well i said XCM but i meant talismoon katana case, they dont come with replacement screws it seems:/
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: Xombe on January 22, 2008, 10:13:00 PM
Precious few staff here would look down upon a crook (fraudlent service, lies, cover-up = crook) being outed, provided one wasn't making a crusade of it (spamming the Wii forum with new threads to complain, stinking up the BST with similar, etc).

Given the hand he dealt you and the way you've handled it, you don't have to worry much about dropping a name in this particular thread.

I hope your mod works out. smile.gif
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: sheepie on January 23, 2008, 07:04:00 PM
well i did today, but word of advice dont try and mod some thing while baby sitting, it will drive you close to insanity

altho the ebay guy said it was early version of the drive it had point 3 missing ( like this pic http://www.wiikeygui...Diagram-D2B.jpg )mangaed to wing with a bit thich tip, tapped it onto the leg couple of times and its conecceted well. installed everything in new case the talismoon guide that comes with the case is nice and simple to follow. the dvd drive i didnt scew down as i didnt have the right sized screws as some of the kids ran off with the match box they were in, winged that as well with some duct tape for the time being.


i poped in the wiikey 1.2fw disc and it showed and error disc not reconised but it showed up as a GC disc in menu, same with 1.3 disc. but 1.9g disc worked (showed the bum pic) but after a bit it says press a or another button at which point i can use the a button on my wii mote for some daft reason. its playing wii originals and pakl gc games fine tho
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: sheepie on January 24, 2008, 05:54:00 PM
done and working seemed the reset button was jamming, ive fixed it and its working now
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: LEECH666 on January 28, 2008, 05:54:00 AM
Advice: Solder your connections instead of taping them.
Taped connections are bound to break.

It just needs a little heat and the tape comes off.

This post has been edited by LEECH666: Jan 28 2008, 01:59 PM
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: sheepie on January 28, 2008, 06:07:00 PM
i only used leccy tape to cover the solder points just in case. and cover/stick the wiikey in place

only other times i used tape was for the outer shell as i hvae no screws ( remeber i had to drill them)

the connections them shelves are soldered, unless you mistook me when i wrote  to connect the wire to the 5th leg i gently did a tap with soldering iron a couple of times, thanks for your advice on the DMs drive tho works like a charm now biggrin.gif
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: LEECH666 on January 30, 2008, 01:43:00 AM
QUOTE(sheepie @ Jan 29 2008, 02:43 AM) View Post

i only used leccy tape to cover the solder points just in case. and cover/stick the wiikey in place

only other times i used tape was for the outer shell as i hvae no screws ( remeber i had to drill them)

the connections them shelves are soldered, unless you mistook me when i wrote  to connect the wire to the 5th leg i gently did a tap with soldering iron a couple of times, thanks for your advice on the DMs drive tho works like a charm now biggrin.gif


Oh well, looks like I got the wrong Idea.
Taping down soldered wires is indeed a good way to keep the wires from breaking loose.

So I guess all is well. I'm glad you made it.
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: InterestedHacker on February 06, 2008, 09:02:00 AM
If you are struggling to get the screws out, and you have a replacement case, just hack your way through the plastic around the screw points (carefully).  It should't be impossible.  Once you have hacked the case away you can remove the screws pretty easily using mole grips to grip and rotate them carefully.
Title: Un Moddable Wii?
Post by: sheepie on February 09, 2008, 08:05:00 AM
i had to drill thru them has the screws were covered with compond of some sortand it could not be avoided