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Title: Wiinja: The First Wii Modchip!
Post by: sicknasty413 on January 26, 2007, 10:40:00 AM
Interesting.

I wouldn't mind getting my hands on one assuming it's truly legitimate (yes, I know, many claim it is..even that Administrator at that forum you linked too)

But one question, do we even know how to make backups yet? I know I don't. But apparently some people do. So, I'm assuming there's a tutorial out there somewhere..seeing as how that's basically what this modchip is for.

Anyways, Nice find!
Title: Wiinja: The First Wii Modchip!
Post by: throwingks on January 26, 2007, 10:45:00 AM
Just because it can play backups doesn't mean you can make backups. Look at the DS for example. This is great news if you can really create and play backups.
Title: Wiinja: The First Wii Modchip!
Post by: twistedsymphony on January 26, 2007, 12:49:00 PM
I'd be happy if it could at least play GC backups

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Title: Wiinja: The First Wii Modchip!
Post by: gordita37 on January 26, 2007, 01:10:00 PM
I read somewhere to dump your own games you need some special type of DVD drive for your pc then use dvdinfo similar to the 360 dumping way. Also remember reading it takes about 50 hours to dump.. so  blink.gif
Title: Wiinja: The First Wii Modchip!
Post by: leorimolo on January 26, 2007, 03:14:00 PM
Interesting, selling backups is legal here. Lets see how fast will they pop up. I don't like "backups" It can lead to bad things
Title: Wiinja: The First Wii Modchip!
Post by: atomiX on January 26, 2007, 04:18:00 PM
This was bound to happen soon enough. You know what I'm talking about if you saw the Wii security presentation a few weeks back. It is possible to create your own backups with the proper tools (don't ask me how, I've never tried yet) so like you say, it shouldn't be illegal under your DMCA.
Title: Wiinja: The First Wii Modchip!
Post by: kaidomac on January 26, 2007, 06:16:00 PM
I'm certainly interested in this.  I really like the original Xbox's ability to play backup copies and store games on the hard drive.  I recently got an Xbox 360 and a couple games, including Far Cry.  My first time playing it, the switch on the cable was set to "HD" instead of "SD" for my TV, so I tilted it forward to push the button and SCREEEECH, cut a nice ring into my brand new Far Cry game disc.  I know you can make hack the Xbox 360 to play backups, but the whole process is just too difficult and now I'm out an expensive game tongue.gif  I keep my Wii games in a nice case and I'm very careful, but at $50 a pop I'm always worried about them getting scratched.

We didn't have this problem growing up with Sega and Nintendo's cartridge system.  I wonder how many broken discs kids get today, I always manhandled my games growing up and they were never worse for the wear...
Title: Wiinja: The First Wii Modchip!
Post by: kermit007 on January 26, 2007, 08:15:00 PM
I dunno if I believe this chip this chip is real. Something just doesn't seem right about it. Usually it seems like theres more information given about these when they are the real deal and/or reputable shops carrying them. Guess we'll know for sure when we start hearing excuses come the 1st or when people start getting scammed.

If it is real though it'll be a letdown that they were just focused on facilitating the piracy side of things. Sure you can run "backups", but can't play imports. So much for homebrew too =\
Title: Wiinja: The First Wii Modchip!
Post by: gordita37 on January 26, 2007, 09:37:00 PM
QUOTE(kermit007 @ Jan 27 2007, 05:22 AM) View Post

I dunno if I believe this chip this chip is real. Something just doesn't seem right about it. Usually it seems like theres more information given about these when they are the real deal and/or reputable shops carrying them. Guess we'll know for sure when we start hearing excuses come the 1st or when people start getting scammed.

If it is real though it'll be a letdown that they were just focused on facilitating the piracy side of things. Sure you can run "backups", but can't play imports. So much for homebrew too =\

Uhmm.. Well what about the 360? We still cant play homebrew or imports that aren't region free.
Title: Wiinja: The First Wii Modchip!
Post by: SR388 on January 26, 2007, 11:51:00 PM
but we don't have to buy anything to mod the 360

this is a product for the sole use as a way to pirate


edit:
also, from the pics, it looks like it is just a single DIP with wiinja printed on the top of it, I don't really see this happening either
Title: Wiinja: The First Wii Modchip!
Post by: Exobex on January 27, 2007, 12:43:00 AM
QUOTE(SR388 @ Jan 27 2007, 06:58 AM) View Post

it looks like it is just a single DIP with wiinja printed on the top of it


So were the PlayStation and first-gen (boot-disc) PS2 mods, all based around the 4MHz PIC12C508 or PIC12C509.

Atmel are now squeezing 20MHz microcontrollers with 8K of flash memory, 512 bytes of EEPROM and 512 bytes of RAM into 8-pin DIP packages, check out the ATtiny85.

The supply and ground connections used in the picture suggest a 12C508 or 12C509 rather than an ATtiny though.
Title: Wiinja: The First Wii Modchip!
Post by: v8azlin on January 27, 2007, 03:20:00 AM
QUOTE(Exobex @ Jan 27 2007, 06:50 PM) View Post

So were the PlayStation and first-gen (boot-disc) PS2 mods, all based around the 4MHz PIC12C508 or PIC12C509.

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Wiinja: The First Wii Modchip!
Post by: the lobo on January 27, 2007, 08:52:00 AM
will there ever be DVD playback?
Title: Wiinja: The First Wii Modchip!
Post by: SR388 on January 27, 2007, 11:07:00 AM
well thank you mfor my enlightenment of the subject
Title: Wiinja: The First Wii Modchip!
Post by: Methadon on January 27, 2007, 12:12:00 PM
The modchips for the 360 are for the DVD drive. They only allow backups as well. There's been a LOT more developement with software hacking lately, but soon enough someone is going to hack each of these by means of a chip.
Title: Wiinja: The First Wii Modchip!
Post by: ausmods on January 27, 2007, 03:17:00 PM
Damn that was quick....... happy.gif

Though it is a bit dissapointing if it only allows the wii to play backups. I spose its one step at a time....



Title: Wiinja: The First Wii Modchip!
Post by: v8azlin on January 28, 2007, 12:16:00 AM
QUOTE(ausmods @ Jan 28 2007, 09:24 AM) View Post

Though it is a bit dissapointing if it only allows the wii to play backups. I spose its one step at a time....

Yeah, that totally sucks.
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Title: Wiinja: The First Wii Modchip!
Post by: gordita37 on January 28, 2007, 02:55:00 AM
"suck" would mean no development going on at all.
Title: Wiinja: The First Wii Modchip!
Post by: yaazz on January 28, 2007, 08:58:00 AM
It looks like a 555 timer with a sticker on top.

I suppose it could be a PLD though, either way I sold my Wii so it isnt a huge issue tongue.gif

Title: Wiinja: The First Wii Modchip!
Post by: telo{+} on January 28, 2007, 02:48:00 PM
QUOTE
t looks like a 555 timer with a sticker on top.


Right, cause there are only two components that are made in 8 Pin DIP ? (There are millions)

It could be ANYTHING. A Micro, an opAmp, dual transistors, it could be a voltage regulator, ANYTHING. But if its real (and I hope it is) its probably a micro.

Probably a pic, probably require an internal oscillator (less its pulling from an exisiting clock on the wii), the 5 pins being hooked up and since it doesn't show any cutting of traces on the wii-pcb, I'm guessing its modifying an SPI or I2C or other bus message. Almost certainly something TTL.



Whats good is that IF it is real, then it will definitely be copied and there might be a homebrew version avail. At the very least it will be released by someone with a better explanation of what it is.

Title: Wiinja: The First Wii Modchip!
Post by: dre74 on January 30, 2007, 01:38:00 AM
http://www.wiinja.com/

TESTED MEDIAS :

TDK DVD-R --> 16x -- PERFECT
XTRA DVD-R -> 8x -- PERFECT
IMATION DVD-R --> 16x -- PERFECT
VERBATIM DVD-R --> 16x -- PERFECT
VERBATIM DVD+R --> 4x -- PERFECT (Burn it like
EMTEC DVD-R -->> 4x -- Produces DRE on WII and Gamecube Modes
PLEOMAX DVD-R --> 16x -- PERFECT

I still do not see how or with what you make backups with.

There seems to be another modchip http://www.modchipma...hip-p-1556.html

This one claims:
- Quicksolder (no wires required)
- Plays Wii Backups
- Plays GC Backups
- Play GC Homebrew
- Play GC Imports (swap needed)
- Built-in Audiofix (GC games using streaming are working flawlessly, no patch needed)
- DVD-R / DVD+R support
- Optional chip disable wire
- Stealth even when chip is enabled
- Multi-purpose LED
Title: Wiinja: The First Wii Modchip!
Post by: twistedsymphony on January 30, 2007, 07:05:00 AM
Max Console has also apparently received a beta CycloWiz chip and confirmed it's validity.

Team Wiinja is claiming it's a rip of their chip and that someone stole some of their beta chips  rolleyes.gif

let the modchip bitch-fest begin

CycloWiz looks a lot more professional, it certainly has more features and an easier install.

I'm just hoping that they're based on PIC or Atmel chips so I can snag the code and flash my own chips.  laugh.gif

I can't find the thread but there was one posted here a little while back where someone was talking about the Wii's security.

Basically it's nearly idential to the Gamecube, they changed the backdoor password from uppercase to lowercase, change the shape of the connector and the discs are signed such that running modified code is no longer possible without a more invasive hack.

These chips are probably near identical to the GC chips it's just the security differences that prevent us from running alternate regions, homebrew, or modified games.
Title: Wiinja: The First Wii Modchip!
Post by: xiaNaix on February 03, 2007, 10:10:00 PM
QUOTE(svenk91 @ Jan 26 2007, 09:38 PM) View Post

with a special lg dvd reader(only 15-20 dollars) and the tool dvd info or something used with a special program called rawdump it toke 50 hours indeed, with new version it takes 10 hours


The latest version of Rawdump does not require DVDInfo to be running in the background.  Solutions are being worked on to dump the discs faster.  wink.gif