Post by: pablot on November 05, 2006, 11:24:00 PM
Wii Remote Uncovered
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Post by: throwingks on November 06, 2006, 03:50:00 AM
http://kotaku.com/ga...-ago-199243.php
Post by: bigjimmy on November 06, 2006, 12:27:00 PM
I mean, look at this pic: Wiimote Pic
thatd have like a total of 10 SMD components? And one chip to control it all. It looks even simpler than the PCB of my TV remote...
Post by: pablot on November 06, 2006, 10:32:00 PM
Its quite interesting actually, this controller/remote actually looks like a remote when looking at the pcb. The analog part of the controller will probably look more like the 360 and sixaxis controller.
But damn, a one chip solution.. hope they haven't decided to go the same way on all the parts of this console or hacking it will be extremely difficult.
/pablot
Post by: grim_d on November 06, 2006, 10:43:00 PM
QUOTE(pablot @ Nov 7 2006, 05:39 AM) 
well, that one chip thing is probably a pretty expensive special purpose asic that they had manufactured specifically for this remote. Since I can't see any other chips I'm gonna have to guess that they have integrated all the good stuff in to that single chip.
Its quite interesting actually, this controller/remote actually looks like a remote when looking at the pcb. The analog part of the controller will probably look more like the 360 and sixaxis controller.
But damn, a one chip solution.. hope they haven't decided to go the same way on all the parts of this console or hacking it will be extremely difficult.
/pablot
Wont the sensor bar do most of the work?
But perfect example of what Nintendo does best, big things in small packages.
Whos got the balls to crack open a wii?
Post by: pablot on November 07, 2006, 12:03:00 AM
QUOTE(grim_d @ Nov 7 2006, 07:50 AM)
Wont the sensor bar do most of the work?
But perfect example of what Nintendo does best, big things in small packages.
Whos got the balls to crack open a wii?
sensor bar?
and, what is that circular plastic thing for? can't see it connect to anything.. and button 1 and 2, wtf? They don't seem to have any thing they connect to on the pcb.. am I missing something?
Post by: SICKdimension on November 07, 2006, 12:13:00 AM
QUOTE(grim_d @ Nov 6 2006, 09:50 PM)
Whos got the balls to crack open a wii?
Count me in, day 1 (well.. maybe day 2).
Those 1 and 2 buttons don't look functional. It must be a prototype or something, although it seems strange they'd skip that.
Post by: bigjimmy on November 07, 2006, 12:45:00 AM
QUOTE
But damn, a one chip solution.. hope they haven't decided to go the same way on all the parts of this console or hacking it will be extremely difficult.
Well, think about the size of the wii. For it to be that small, theres going to be a lot of custom multi-purpose chips in there. And i have a feeling hacking it aint going to be easy (Well let hope im wrong)
Post by: grim_d on November 07, 2006, 03:40:00 AM
QUOTE(pablot @ Nov 7 2006, 07:10 AM)
sensor bar?
it's how the wiimote interfaces with the system, it's what senses where in the virtual space the wiimote is. It can be placed almost anywhere above or below the tv and can sit and an angle but once calibrated works a charm apparantly.
Post by: pablot on November 07, 2006, 07:00:00 AM
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Post by: throwingks on November 07, 2006, 08:50:00 AM
Translate the page into English. They are all over eBay right now.
Google translation of the page:
http://translate.goo...0/15-000000.php
Post by: pablot on November 07, 2006, 10:03:00 AM
I am now eagerly awaiting some real wii pics.
/pablot
Post by: bigjimmy on November 07, 2006, 10:35:00 PM
Good thinking throwingks, lol it didnt even cross my mind to translate the page...
Post by: pablot on November 12, 2006, 11:33:00 PM
The Nunchuk:
http://www.nintendow...chuk-undressed/
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Post by: twistedsymphony on November 13, 2006, 02:08:00 PM
QUOTE(pablot @ Nov 7 2006, 09:07 AM)
well hello mr senor bar. I had totally missed that, I thought it was all gyros and accellerometers inside the remote. very interesting.
/pablot
well it actually is all accelerometers for the motion sensing in the Wii-Remote and nunchuck attachment.
The sensor bar is for the POSITIONAL sensing... basically the Wii-remote in addition to motion sensing also can point at the screen like a light gun (Time Crisis, Area 51, Virtua Cop, etc.).
AFAIK that's the only function of the sensor bar, motion controlled is still handled entirely bu accelerometers internally.
IR sensors were used instead of traditional light gun tech because traditional light gun tech only works properly on CRT displays, but IR sensors can work on ANY display.
It's not new either, there is a light gun called the "Top Gun" that uses IR sensor bars that works with the PS2, Xbox and PCs.
If the motion control works like the other motion control systems I've used it will have 2 three-axis accelerometers. Imagine the controller is a flat piece of cardboard. one accelerometer is in the top left and the other is in the bottom right.
When both register +X it meas the controller is moving straight along the X axis, if one registers +Z and the other -Z it means that it's rotating around the X axis. They're offset in opposite corners so that it can detect rotation about any of the 3 linear axis. Not saying that's how it works but that's how other systems I've used work.
Post by: SICKdimension on November 14, 2006, 05:18:00 AM
Post by: EverestX on November 14, 2006, 12:06:00 PM
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Nov 13 2006, 03:15 PM)
The sensor bar is for the POSITIONAL sensing... basically the Wii-remote in addition to motion sensing also can point at the screen like a light gun (Time Crisis, Area 51, Virtua Cop, etc.).
You have some damn fine tastes in light gun games...
QUOTE(SICKdimension @ Nov 14 2006, 06:25 AM)
I hope the controllers work well, meaning that you can sit at an angle from the TV, be sitting down, etc. I also hope that it is extremely responsive. With this type of innovative controls, they can either have something great, or completely flop if it's not responsive or is glitchy.
I totally agree, I really hope this isn't the virtual boy all over again. Because the 360 is lack luster, and the ps3, well has yet to excite me either. Soon we shall know
Post by: twistedsymphony on November 14, 2006, 01:25:00 PM
QUOTE(EverestX @ Nov 14 2006, 02:13 PM)
You have some damn fine tastes in light gun games...
I love light gun games
but unfortunetly I haven't been able to play any since moving to a DLP based projector...That's why I'm hoping the Wii will revive the Light Gun genre... Seeing that the light gun components are built right in I'm sure it will become home to almost all light gun arcade games, and possibly get some new light gun franchises under it.
Also Red Steel
it's pretty much an FPS/Light Gun cross-genre.Post by: grim_d on November 14, 2006, 04:36:00 PM
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Nov 14 2006, 08:32 PM)
I love light gun games
Also Red Steel
it's pretty much an FPS/Light Gun cross-genre.i hear ya
if i didn't have an LCD id crack out time crisis right now.
Post by: throwingks on November 14, 2006, 04:57:00 PM
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Nov 14 2006, 03:32 PM)
I love light gun games
Me too, and after my surgery tomorrow I have a feeling I will be getting pretty good at Silent Scope left handed. Maybe I will play a little House of the Dead 2 as well. I don't think I will play HotD3 again after playing through it a couple times.