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Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: esc1 on January 17, 2005, 08:38:00 PM
Period.

Who's with me?   tongue.gif
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: ZeroTheHero on January 17, 2005, 08:42:00 PM
Who calls it a sport?
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: esc1 on January 20, 2005, 04:21:00 PM
Well its on ESPN 24/7 and a lot of people playing it thinks it is.  Other channels think its a sport too.
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: PantherHockey03 on January 20, 2005, 03:34:00 PM
I have to disagree.  I play nl hold em all the time.  Mabe 2-3 times a week with my friends.  

Poker requires skill.  No luck is involved.  You have to be able to read your opponent(s).  I completely disagree with you.  I say it is just as much of a sport as football is to most people.   Try telling Doyle Brunson poker is not a sport.  He's made a living off it.  I take it you either just got a very, very bad beat or you just cant play.
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: thomes08 on January 21, 2005, 10:44:00 AM
poker is a game not a sport.  People make livings off a lot of different things and they're not sports.  Many things require great skill and they're not a sport.  I play texas hold em probably once a week, not that much but i've done it long enough to know that there is luck involed.

simple example:  you have a pair of 10's.... you can't read whether that person has a pair of 9's or a pair of jacks.  in cases like that there is a lot of luck, you can't deny it just because it's something you really like and actually do have skill in.

thomes08
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: PantherHockey03 on January 21, 2005, 06:03:00 PM
Well any pocket pair b4 the flop, chances are unless you are a professional at reading people, you wont know.  But after the flop, just watch the player.  You get good reads. (just like you read a play in football)
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: ThaCrip on February 21, 2005, 10:54:00 AM
QUOTE(esc1 @ Jan 17 2005, 10:44 PM)
Period.

Who's with me?   :P
*



i tottally agree ... people misuse the word "sport" alot nowadays to me REAL SPORTS are all the major sports like... NFL - NBA - NHL - MLB - SOCCER - GOLF (im sure theres a few i left out but these are pretty much it)... basically anything where theres alot of actuall body movement... i think u get my point.

This post has been edited by ThaCrip: Feb 21 2005, 06:58 PM
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: celinedrules on February 21, 2005, 11:17:00 AM
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poker is a game not a sport
That doesn't make any sense. Football is a game too but its a sport. If you don't classify it as a "game", what would you call it? A sport perhaps?

The following was taking from dictionary.com. Look at definition number 3. I declare number 9 the best sport of all.

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sport   Audio pronunciation of "sport" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (spôrt, sprt)
n.

   1.
         1. Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
         2. A particular form of this activity.
   2. An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.
   3. An active pastime; recreation.
   4.
         1. Mockery; jest: He made sport of his own looks.
         2. An object of mockery, jest, or play: treated our interests as sport.
         3. A joking mood or attitude: She made the remark in sport.
   5.
         1. One known for the manner of one's acceptance of rules, especially of a game, or of a difficult situation: a poor sport.
         2. Informal. One who accepts rules or difficult situations well.
         3. Informal. A pleasant companion: was a real sport during the trip.
   6. Informal.
         1. A person who lives a jolly, extravagant life.
         2. A gambler at sporting events.
   7. Biology. An organism that shows a marked change from the normal type or parent stock, typically as a result of mutation.
   8. Maine. See summercater. See Regional Note at summercater.
   9. Obsolete. Amorous dalliance; lovemaking.


This post has been edited by celinedrules: Feb 21 2005, 07:18 PM
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: ThaCrip on February 21, 2005, 11:21:00 AM
celinedrules  u actually think poker is a sport?

i still stand by what i said before... it dont matter what people define a sport as to me "REAL SPORTS" are things where u got alot of body movement/action etc.

poker takes skill to play but it is definately not a sport if u ask me... as it's all thinking there is NO action in it whatsoever.

This post has been edited by ThaCrip: Feb 21 2005, 07:22 PM
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: PantherHockey03 on February 21, 2005, 05:10:00 PM
QUOTE
An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.
 Poker has rules and is competative.
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: thegame_evolution on February 21, 2005, 06:07:00 PM
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Well its on ESPN 24/7


huh??

how is this available???? on digital cable?? or is it a PC VOD service??
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: DuDeR MaN on February 22, 2005, 06:40:00 AM
well I've heard that chess is a sport in the past.  And if chess is considered a sport than hell, poker is right up there with it.

that doesn't mean I agree with it, but hey.. I didn't define "sport", you can thank webster for that
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: quall on February 22, 2005, 12:03:00 PM
I think it is a sport.

Sports don't have to be athletic. Have you heard of "non-athletic" sports?
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: tRuTh1337 on February 22, 2005, 03:49:00 PM
QUOTE(quall @ Feb 22 2005, 11:03 AM)
I think it is a sport.

Sports don't have to be athletic. Have you heard of "non-athletic" sports?
*


Other than the special olympics no.
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: PantherHockey03 on February 22, 2005, 04:44:00 PM
This is a thread COMPLETELY based on opinion.  I guess it would be hard to determin whether it was a sport or not.  Its just what you think it is.
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: gcskate27 on February 22, 2005, 09:16:00 PM
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QUOTE(ThaCrip laugh.gif)
GOLF


if you think golf is a sport, why not pool? if pool, why not darts? if darts, why not chess? if chess, why not poker?

see where im going with this...
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: Ripasser on February 23, 2005, 01:18:00 AM
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Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: gcskate27 on February 23, 2005, 09:35:00 AM
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Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: ronetone on February 23, 2005, 01:24:00 PM
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Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: Tony42077 on February 23, 2005, 02:03:00 PM
QUOTE(gcskate27 @ Feb 23 2005, 04:41 PM)
there are many sports that arent in the olympics... would you define auto racing as a sport? what about american football for that matter.... neither are in the olympics... laugh.gif
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: shooptek on March 06, 2005, 07:48:00 PM
yer pathetic...all of you...poker can not possibly be a sport.  Do you have to move in poker? didnt think so
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: ZeroTheHero on March 06, 2005, 08:35:00 PM
Pogs is a sport! one time I got 15 pogs in one hit with my super slammer!.......
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: mr_chips on March 07, 2005, 02:49:00 AM
it isn't a matter of  whether the game is a sport or not.  It is a game.  To some, it is a sport.  "sport" cannot be defined properly here.  Simply because it is all how it is percieved.  A lame example: to a hair stylist, clipping is a sport.

And as someone mentioned previously, luck IS involved.  It is hard to deny it.  But poker also has other variables involved.  Such as, skill (how well you hide your expressions and tells, making good moves, reading other players), WHO is playing, the number of people playing, your chipstack at any give time...there is countrless variables which can determine who wins the game.  The same can be said of many sports.
All I'm saying is, Poker is a sport to some people.
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: ZeroTheHero on March 07, 2005, 02:33:00 PM
QUOTE(xbox beat box @ Mar 7 2005, 08:29 AM)
A phyical activity..check, call, bet, the act of thinking is physical....these are all physical activities.
Poker is governed by a set of rules...and is played competitively.


So when will they have a Chess and Checkers sports hero jersey I can purchase?
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: Raver758 on March 07, 2005, 03:24:00 PM
poker is a sport only a moron with no skills in poker would say such a thing.
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: gcskate27 on March 07, 2005, 03:31:00 PM
QUOTE(ZeroTheHero @ Mar 6 2005, 08:41 PM)
Pogs is a sport! one time I got 15 pogs in one hit with my super slammer!.......
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: xbox beat box on March 08, 2005, 09:53:00 AM
QUOTE(Raver758 @ Mar 7 2005, 10:30 PM)
poker is a sport only a moron with no skills in poker would say such a thing.
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: gcskate27 on March 08, 2005, 12:13:00 PM
QUOTE(LenteSubigo @ Mar 8 2005, 02:44 AM)
Running the 100 meter dash isn't a sport, but racing the datona 500 is a sport.  Running 100 meters is simple, it is a simple speed competition.  Racing the datona 500 is complex, it requires a team, a great driver, a great car, luck, physical endurance, mental toughness, alot of skill, and to follow alot of rules.


track and field isnt a sport but driving a car in a circle is?  uhh.gif

closest motor vehicle 'sport' id even consider would be indy racing, not nascar where its 500 laps around an oval... rolleyes.gif
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: feflicker on March 08, 2005, 12:19:00 PM
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Is UNO a sport? What about Go Fish? Solitaire?  rotfl.gif
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: celinedrules on March 08, 2005, 12:21:00 PM
QUOTE(feflicker @ Mar 8 2005, 10:25 AM)
Is UNO a sport? What about Go Fish? Solitaire?  rotfl.gif
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: mamajo on March 08, 2005, 12:30:00 PM
What intrigues me most is the most popular threads in the Pro Sports forum are about Poker and Paintball.
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: xbox beat box on March 08, 2005, 12:50:00 PM
Poker being in sports forums is a tad strange. Poker being popular in forums does not suprise me.

There is so much to discuss about poker.
Hand analysis being the big one. Bad beat stories and poker theory is quite popular as well. Thanks to televised events, poker has exploded onto pretty much every scene. Over the past 2 years I have played with 60 year olds, as well as 13 year olds.

Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: LenteSubigo on March 08, 2005, 03:05:00 PM
QUOTE(gcskate27 @ Mar 8 2005, 11:19 AM)
track and field isnt a sport but driving a car in a circle is?  uhh.gif
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: gcskate27 on March 08, 2005, 03:35:00 PM
ohh believe me i can argue a point... but your logic of "has to be complex and have alot of rules" isnt worth arguing...

*yeah, im the dumbass...
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: celinedrules on March 08, 2005, 05:59:00 PM
QUOTE(LenteSubigo @ Mar 8 2005, 03:53 PM)
If you don't like my definition, that is fine, but my definition is just as valid as any.  There are no official definitions, and even those definitions listed in a dictionary are contridictory.
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: celinedrules on March 08, 2005, 06:11:00 PM
Well you could make it competetive. You no when you go to the fair or amusement park they have those thing games where you shoot water at it and the thing rises. You could do the samething only w/ pissing. The more pressure that is applied the fatser it rises.  By your definition that is competetive and physical (the power of your stream).

I'm not trying to my smart or disguisting I am just giving you an example.
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: LenteSubigo on March 08, 2005, 06:24:00 PM
QUOTE(celinedrules @ Mar 8 2005, 06:17 PM)
Well you could make it competetive. You no when you go to the fair or amusement park they have those thing games where you shoot water at it and the thing rises. You could do the samething only w/ pissing. The more pressure that is applied the fatser it rises.  By your definition that is competetive and physical (the power of your stream).
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: DuDeR MaN on March 10, 2005, 02:04:00 AM
...i miss football season
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: chucko on March 11, 2005, 09:00:00 AM
Definitely not a sport.  ESPN shows anything that gets ratings.  The funniest part of Dodgeball is them cracking on ESPN with ESPN 8 "The Ocho" showing dodgeball tournaments and treating them like the super bowl.
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: Baner on March 11, 2005, 12:36:00 PM
QUOTE(gcskate27 @ Mar 8 2005, 01:19 PM)
track and field isnt a sport but driving a car in a circle is?  uhh.gif
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: tr1p on March 11, 2005, 03:11:00 PM
If pokers not a sport than online competitive gaming isnt all you esports people

suckas


texas hold em rules
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: reidtheweed01 on June 08, 2005, 01:09:00 PM
all the weak ass people who cant play football or basketball like to call it a sport because its the only thing they can do. Thats why half of the people on here call it a sport because they cant play a real sport.
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: Ghost_Face_Killah on June 08, 2005, 01:11:00 PM
if you can't break a sweat, it ain't a sport
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: SNMNMNM! on June 08, 2005, 02:11:00 PM
QUOTE(Ghost_Face_Killah @ Jun 8 2005, 09:22 PM)
if you can't break a sweat, it ain't a sport
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: xboxmodder4life on June 08, 2005, 02:22:00 PM
and the worlds largest signature award goes tooo.....SNMNMNM!




i played poker all the time mostly No Limit Holdem..and i'll tell you its not a sport. A sport has to involve something phsyical. Passing cards around a table and putting chips into the center of a table isn't phsyical.


And the argument of Luck Vs Skill. Someone with luck can win a poker tourney once.Someone with skill can make a living off poker tournaments..


I'd say its 10% luck 90% skill


Like when i play online and i have a set of queen (3 queens for those who dont know) Then someone keeps calling 5$ bets with ace high and needs runner runner cards to hit a straight and still calls 5$ bets the hole way until he catches the card he needs on the river for a straight. In case like that it's just some horrible poker player getting lucky.


But again poker isn't a sport....

Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on June 09, 2005, 11:50:00 AM
I agree it is not a sport, I was watching TSN Canada's version of ESPN and they had a stupid spelling bee on what the hell is up with that? I say real sports are Soccer, Baseball, Football, Rugby, Hockey, Boxing, Auto Racing and Olympic's There are a few I have probly left out but poker and spelling bee's are sports.
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: Colonel32 on June 11, 2005, 12:17:00 PM
QUOTE(Ghost_Face_Killah @ Jun 8 2005, 09:22 PM)
if you can't break a sweat, it ain't a sport
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: lebriznon on June 11, 2005, 11:48:00 PM
poker isnt a sport. doesnt have to be a sport to be on espn.  this mornining i saw the national spelling bee on ESPN. bunch of 13 yr olds spelling words.  unless thats a sport now....might be responsible for obesity...
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: gcskate27 on June 12, 2005, 12:12:00 AM
what about archery or target shooting? are they sports? they invovle about the same level of exercise and concentration...
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on June 14, 2005, 04:09:00 PM
QUOTE(NobodyIsThereAnymore @ Jun 9 2005, 04:07 PM)
Soccer isn't a sport.
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: lowsodium on June 25, 2005, 02:27:00 AM
QUOTE(Colonel32 @ Jun 11 2005, 08:28 PM)
You have not gone all in with a large stack of your own money before wink.gif
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: thegame_evolution on June 25, 2005, 11:20:00 AM
QUOTE
You have not gone all in with a large flute before wink.gif


I have once  blink.gif

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I have more complex turns on my way to 7-11 to get rolling papers than any Nascar driver faces in their Driving competition.


And when was the last time you had 30 other cars on the road going at and around you at 200 mph trying to get those papers before you??? Thats what i thought.

And as far as the subjectline goes. I believe that poker is a sport simply because you do need great physical and mental abilities. You need to calculate pot odds and when your pocket kings are beaten on the flop. You also need physical ability because you have to be able to sit damn near physically still for hours on end so you dont give away the strength or weakness of your hands. Poker may not be as physical as baseball or football, but it does take stamins and ability to play in a tournament for 40 hours a week.
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: jimjom on July 12, 2005, 04:21:00 AM
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Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: reidtheweed01 on July 16, 2005, 05:03:00 PM
QUOTE(xbox beat box @ Jul 13 2005, 03:05 PM)
Golf is clearly a sport, yet there is little if any physical endurance, I play golf 3-4 times a week and I find walking the fairways super relaxing, especially after a few beers and a spliff. Look at John Daly, that guy hasnt put forth an ounce of energy in his game, except for his monster drives.
Title: Poker Is Not A Sport
Post by: .:Dino:. on August 17, 2005, 03:32:00 AM
Poker is a sport to me, I play nl hold'em with my mates nearly everyday and watch the world poker tour nearly every night. What makes it a sport is that you can analyse it in the same ways like wether or not he made as great play. In poker, wether you win or lose doesnt matter, its wether you made a good decision. Its competetive, requires skill, and is in many ways sportlike.