Post by: chilin_dude on June 13, 2004, 06:39:00 AM
Now Today I'm cheering on England with my St Georges cross... We'll teach the French a thing or two... Prediction:
England 3 - 1 France
Lampard 19 Trezeget 42
Lampard 62
Owen 91st
Post by: Spency234 on June 13, 2004, 11:28:00 AM
The one soccer (football) game I get to watch probably for the year and it turns out to be this one!
Post by: Dunny on June 13, 2004, 11:35:00 AM
Post by: chilin_dude on June 13, 2004, 12:22:00 PM
ONE THING:
FUCKING LUCKYPIECES OF FRENCH SHIT!
HOW THE FUCK CAN THAT HAPPEN
WE WERE FUCKING ROBBED
Post by: gronne on June 14, 2004, 12:37:00 AM
Post by: Silentscream__ on June 14, 2004, 12:47:00 AM
Post by: melon on June 14, 2004, 01:53:00 AM
It has proved we are that good and do have a chance of winning it.
Who reckons if Rooney hadnt been brought down the goal would have been well better than owens against the argies in 98?
Come on England
Post by: gronne on June 15, 2004, 03:31:00 AM
I was really irritated at Sweden's play in the first half because of my high expectations, but when Larsson made 2-0 and a minute later 3-0, I knew it would be a classic in Swedish football. Teddy Lucic ruined Sweden's first half, but when we switched him for Christian Wilhelmsson, everything opened up.
There are no good words to describe the feeling going through the vains of Swedes' at this moment.
5-0 - STUNNING!!!
Post by: jbp20717 on June 15, 2004, 04:13:00 AM
Bulgaria outplayed Sweden by far until the second (and third) goal(s), but those two goals in a minute would be demoralizing for any team.
ANyone see the Italy-Denmark game? Denmark deserved to win that and as I have lots of Italian friends I like to that the piss out of the national team whenever they lose.
Looking forward to the Latvia game today...could be an upset
Post by: Dunny on June 15, 2004, 05:44:00 AM
| QUOTE (melon @ Jun 14 2004, 10:53 AM) |
| Who reckons if Rooney hadnt been brought down the goal would have been well better than owens against the argies in 98? |
nah, he could have missed and then I would have been annoyed he didn't pass to the unmarked Vassell. I thought Rooney played well but he could do with controlling his temper!
Post by: Spency234 on June 15, 2004, 06:03:00 AM
Post by: Arvarden on June 15, 2004, 06:34:00 AM
If England wins euro 2004 i will eat 1oz of green
C'mon England!!1
Post by: gronne on June 15, 2004, 08:02:00 AM
jbp: I thought England played rather well, albeit too defensive, but it gave results on the other hand. Too bad it didn't last. And I agree Sweden played not too good, but I wouldn't say they outplayed us. Most over here expected Sweden to be bad in the beginning, except from me. None of my friends were the least worried. And when Lucic went out, we ruled them out completely.
Anyways, Latvia has the lead by one score now. They're absolutely outplayed, but with their extremely thick defense they might actually come out with a point(the chechz will score).
Post by: gronne on June 15, 2004, 10:30:00 AM
3rd division is pretty good in Sweden, but I have no idea how many divisions you've got. We've got (depending on how many teams there are in your local area) about 6 divisions + Allsvenskan which is the top division.
Nice to see you play it over there. I guess it's a bigger sport in Canada than in USA.
Hope to see an even better 2:nd half now.
BTW: The referee-team is Swedish
Post by: gronne on June 16, 2004, 07:35:00 AM
I guess 0-0 or 1-1. Unless Italy's changed a lot in their system, which I think they should. But it's not easy to adapt a new system that fast. Vieri and Totti must start running. Trappatoni should've realized you're not unbeatable. IMO he's done a bad job this far.
Post by: lantus on June 16, 2004, 04:12:00 PM
Post by: gronne on June 17, 2004, 12:34:00 AM
No, Italy truly underestimated Denmark, which I wasn't surprised about at all. The ones I saw the game with all believed it would be a tie, some even thought Denmark would win, and that wasn't partiality. I know Italy will take the next match VERY seriously since they HAVE to win and because they know Sweden will be very tough. I would love to see Italy in the next round, but unfortunately we have to beat them to be sure we'll make it to the quarter-finals. Totti will probably not play against Sweden so we have to win, would be embarrasing otherwise
I would also love to see Denmark in the next round. Italy HAVE to change their system because Sweden has the same kind of defense as Denmark, and Italy's forwards can't do jack, since they don't run. That's the only chance Italy's got, if their forwards get a little mobile, it'll be tough.Lantus: You might be a great programmer, but you've got bad taste
You're american, right? Do you really care the least, or do you cheer for the underdogs? Anyways, Greece won't win more than one game, the next against Russia, and that's because Russia's already lost the chance to advance. Too bad Greece would beat out either Portugal or Spain, sometimes I just hate underdogs.
Post by: Arius on June 17, 2004, 01:22:00 AM
Post by: chilin_dude on June 17, 2004, 01:42:00 AM
| QUOTE (lantus @ Jun 17 2004, 10:13 AM) |
im not american  im australian but my parents are from Greece. I am a huge football fan. I've seen AC Milan, France, Man U, Turkey, Leeds, Uraguay, Brazil, Argentina in either friendly or internationals when the respective clubs have come out here. |
Woot someone who's heard of Leeds... Now we are in the frigging 1st division 
But Viduka surprisingly hasn't gone yet
Post by: gronne on June 17, 2004, 03:59:00 AM
The Swedish game wasn't superb until Larsson made his first goal, but THEN it truly was superb play from Sweden.
ADD: Now it's certain Totti won't play, which is great news for Sweden. A bit boring IMO, but he deserves it. I don't want the italians claim they lost because he wasn't on the pitch.
Post by: chilin_dude on June 17, 2004, 04:11:00 AM
| QUOTE (lantus @ Jun 17 2004, 11:12 AM) |
| yeah Leeds had Kewell, Viduka and Okon in the team at one stage. They are high profile over here Its a shame they were relegated. I wonder where Viduka will end up - he should have made a move to italy when he had the opportunity a few years ago. |
Yeah those were the good old days
Apparantly Middlesborough are leading the race for Viduka, I was always surprised at how little Okon did in the Leeds team yet how well he plays for Australia
Post by: melon on June 17, 2004, 04:18:00 AM
Sorry Gronne but I cant see Sweden beating Italy even though I would like them to as Linderoth plays for my team.
Tonight
England 3 Swiss 0
Post by: gronne on June 17, 2004, 06:06:00 AM
I'm more certain than ever Sweden will do well, with Totti away. All I know is Italy might tie, but not win. Now I believe it to be 2-1 or 3-1 to Sweden. I bet England will win today. If everything runs smooth they'll win by 2-0 or 2-1. Switzerland have nothing to lose, but England will be too strong.
Post by: gronne on June 17, 2004, 09:36:00 AM
I'm pretty sure England will play more solid next match against Croatia.
Post by: chilin_dude on June 18, 2004, 01:07:00 AM
| QUOTE (gronne @ Jun 17 2004, 06:36 PM) |
| Beckham, Rooney and Vassel were the stars of the day, but Switzerland easily could've scored earlier. |
Please tell me you aren't serious, Rooney was class, Vassel was great when he came on, but Beckham was VERY poor. He was possibly the worst player (apart from Terry.) Now Lampard on the other hand was immense, imho he is Englands current best midfielder and I think he will score two against Croatia.
Against Swiss we were very lucky, I think we were the worse side and yet we won 3-0... Then again Sweden also weren't that much better and they won 5-0!!!
I want Sven to drop Owen because he's overated, but he won't because he's blind or something
Post by: gronne on June 19, 2004, 08:40:00 AM
Sweden didn't play that bad though, our midfielders didn't do well, but our forwards were good (Henrik didn't do much, but he seldom does until he all of a sudden scores).
Now we're up for Denmark, which I'm really afraid of, most here think we'll make it pretty easy, but I'm not so sure, 'cause the danes have some great players.
Post by: gronne on June 20, 2004, 01:07:00 AM
About the game yesterday though, damn it was good. The Czechs really deserved to win. Advocaat will have to leave a sign of his resignation ASAP.
Should be an interesting game with Portugal-Spain today. Eventhough it'd be good for the tournament if Portugal won, I'd put my money on Spain.
Post by: gronne on June 21, 2004, 02:22:00 AM
Tonight England's up against Croatia. It'll be an ugly game, and I think it'll be a draw, 1-1. I hope England wins, but I wouldn't be surprised if Croatia play them out. Croatia is definitely underestimated.
Rooney will save England from a lost.
Post by: player1 on June 21, 2004, 11:54:00 AM
Post by: gronne on June 22, 2004, 04:28:00 AM
I'm glad England won, but I'm afraid of a possible meeting with them.
Tonight Sweden meet Denmark, and I'm starting to think Denmark will actually win. They are very solid in their play, even more than the Swedes. But we WILL win, or at least get a tie (2-2 would be very nice since both would end up in the quarter's with that result). I fear Grönkjaer, Gravesen and Tomasson. But on the other hand we've got Zlatan, Larsson and Ljungberg. No matter what it'll be an exciting match, and I'm nervous as hell.
Post by: mamajo on June 22, 2004, 02:55:00 PM
Post by: chilin_dude on June 23, 2004, 12:09:00 AM
Post by: gronne on June 23, 2004, 01:59:00 AM
Post by: jbp20717 on June 23, 2004, 02:21:00 AM
You can bet any money you like that the front page of italian sports papers will be talking about a conspiracy theory. I'm glad they're out though, they should have taken advantage of their play against Sweden in the first half and scored at least two goals - they are very boring to watch most of the time and just scrape ther way through most matches. I dunno why they got rid of Dino Zoff after Euro 2000.
BTW, the Czech Rep. are looking great, they were a bit edgy against Latvia but really desrved to win against Holland imo. Wonder if they'll be bothered to play flat-out against Germany seeing that they are already top of the group whatever happens.
I fancy our chances against Portugal, a lot of their play is similar to England's, but we've got ROOOONEY!
Post by: gronne on June 23, 2004, 12:09:00 PM
The Netherlands have a better outcome for the match than Sweden, but we'll give you a real match, be so sure!!!!
Post by: therebelious1 on June 24, 2004, 12:35:00 PM
Post by: brucett on June 24, 2004, 12:52:00 PM
England were robbed as Campells goal should have count!!!!!!
Post by: ghostavel on June 24, 2004, 01:13:00 PM
Post by: elfey1 on June 24, 2004, 01:31:00 PM
Post by: Dunny on June 25, 2004, 01:05:00 AM
Post by: melon on June 25, 2004, 01:24:00 AM
Post by: therebelious1 on June 25, 2004, 01:47:00 AM
its definately a foul to touch a goalie when he's in the air
same-old same-old
england loose
england suffers because of unfairness
england are angels and always get fucked over
get a fucking grip
if, and only if england were a better team, they would have won
end of story
and enough of this bullshit
"we deserved to win"
why? cos you're english?
and you guys think the french are arrogant!!!!
Post by: gronne on June 25, 2004, 02:23:00 AM
England played pretty ok, but it's not unfair Portugal won. All teams that start defending their lead when only 30 minutes are played are doomed to lose, but on the other hand all great teams do. I bet we'll see a change of that in a near future.
English media don't seem to blame Svennis(that's what we call Mr. Eriksson in Sweden). Even I think he should be blamed a bit since they played too defensive.
England could've gone far with this team, but that didn't happen so there's no reason to whine all day long. You might go far in Germany 2006.
Post by: melon on June 25, 2004, 04:52:00 AM
The Porugese deserved to win, i dont doubt that.
We played shit. we looked knackered out there, the heat crippled us. But if you cant stand the heat get out the kitchen, i am not using it as an excuse because we were totally crap.
It was like against the french we defended very well for 90 minutes but thats not the way i like seing football be played. We have world class attacking players so why do we defend?
Fact is if it wasnt for the shit ref we would have won the game in normal time, even if we didnt deserve to. A perfectly good goal was ruled out, but there is a game like that in every tournament its hard lines but tough shit!
We are bound to be a bit pissed off or is following football an emotionless experiance for you?
You are the one being arogant.
Post by: Arvarden on June 25, 2004, 05:16:00 AM
The ref blew his whistle bofore Cambell headed the ball into the net. Why? cus Terry fouled the keeper.
Now who's being "arogant"?
Post by: gronne on June 25, 2004, 06:40:00 AM
Post by: elfey1 on June 25, 2004, 09:43:00 AM
Post by: gronne on June 25, 2004, 12:06:00 PM
This is a weird championship. So was WC '02 as well, but not THIS weird.
Post by: Mr. Chips on June 25, 2004, 02:30:00 PM
I thought France just screwed up or were too busy sitting on there high horse. Greece deserved this win, fair and square. Go Greece!
PS. I'm still pissed about England losing but I'm kinda torn because a friend of mine is Portugese and I was leaning more towards my English side (my mother)
Oh welll....
Post by: gronne on June 26, 2004, 12:39:00 PM
Any team could have won, Sweden happened to lose. Life could've been worse, not much, but still.
I'm too tired wanting to declare Holland war. Maybe I'll do that tomorrow.
Life's a bitch. I was surprised Holland could hold the game that well, since Sweden seemed very good in the back-line. I thought Holland would be furious they couldn't score. I didn't see much of that, unfortunately. It's fair though, eventhough it just as well could have been Sweden.
I'm about to sleep now, I just hope I won't start crying when I wake up, realizing it's true.
Anyway, there's another championship in 2 years, and then I'll be at set.
Post by: sham on June 28, 2004, 04:12:00 AM
Post by: renegade1488 on June 28, 2004, 12:44:00 PM
*remembers Jon Kabira of Winning Eleven fame*
LUI-LUI-LUI-COSHTAAAAHHH
Post by: lantus on July 01, 2004, 01:55:00 PM
giant killers - the match against Czech R was amazing. Apart from 2 chances, the greeks controlled the midfield for most of the match, until the last 15 minutes of normal time where the Czechs had a sniff of victory.
after extra time the greeks came out firing. what a finish!
Post by: Spency234 on July 01, 2004, 03:05:00 PM
I would love to see Portugal get beat out in the final just because they beat out my team (Netherlands), and it seems like when they did every Portuguese person in my city came out with their massive flags, I saw a car with about 15 flags attached to it, and a fat chick walking around with nothing but the flag on!
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Anywho, GO GREECE.
Post by: jbp20717 on July 02, 2004, 01:36:00 AM
I don't think the competition is as fucked up as wc2002, I mean Germany were in the final after beating the likes of Paraguay, the USA and Korea and the 3rd place final was between Korea and Turkey - hardly team of a high calibre!
Post by: chilin_dude on July 02, 2004, 08:54:00 AM
| QUOTE (lantus @ Jul 1 2004, 10:55 PM) |
| greece !@$#*)(@#$ giant killers - the match against Czech R was amazing. Apart from 2 chances, the greeks controlled the midfield for most of the match, until the last 15 minutes of normal time where the Czechs had a sniff of victory. after extra time the greeks came out firing. what a finish! |
Yep I agree, I was constantly cheering Greece on, and the silver goal rule worked very nicely for them
COME ON THE GREECE!!!