Post by: Xbox-Scene on March 01, 2007, 08:11:00 PM
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Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on March 01, 2007, 07:39:00 PM
since when were video game related violence studies aimed at white people? and if they were, how were they considered legitimate studies having not considered the entire population in the first place?
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Post by: lostboyz on March 01, 2007, 07:10:00 PM
Post by: mlapaglia on March 01, 2007, 07:46:00 PM
Post by: hassle on March 01, 2007, 07:34:00 PM
ive been playing violent games and watching horrible movies and listening to rob zombie and other hardcore rockers for a long time now. GUESS WHAT im not gonna go kill somebody
Post by: Anonnos on March 01, 2007, 08:19:00 PM
Post by: gcskate27 on March 01, 2007, 07:46:00 PM
Post by: TheShadowOfX on March 01, 2007, 08:23:00 PM
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Post by: capboy210 on March 01, 2007, 08:25:00 PM
A study on this stuff would be interesting.
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Post by: DMAddict on March 01, 2007, 07:58:00 PM
Post by: luther349 on March 01, 2007, 08:50:00 PM
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Post by: robgue on March 01, 2007, 09:12:00 PM
the racist undertone to those video game violence studies is that precisely. blame the video games not the enviroment. middle class(working class) white kids have problems too though. some are criminals. you don't see studies on how violent video games are corrupting black youth in general. you do see studies about violent games corrupting white middle class kids in the suburbs. Omg! think of the children type scare campaigns.
Post by: xtreme_360fw on March 01, 2007, 10:36:00 PM
QUOTE(robgue @ Mar 1 2007, 10:19 PM) 
! think of the children type scare campaigns.
Exactly bro! It's all a scare campaign with some alterior motive that we have yet to realize. Something isn't right about what they're trying to say. Either way, it's sad to see that there are some out there who can't determine reality from fantasy or are easily influenced by a "game". I get my rocks off enacting what I know I can't possibly do in real life thru a video game; that's my vent.
=Xtreme=
Post by: Mega_mil on March 02, 2007, 02:57:00 AM
QUOTE(robgue @ Mar 2 2007, 05:19 AM)
i think some maybe missing the point. basically white middle class kids violence is blamed on things like video game violence as opposed to environment, etc like black kids.
the racist undertone to those video game violence studies is that precisely. blame the video games not the environment. middle class(working class) white kids have problems too though. some are criminals. you don't see studies on how violent video games are corrupting black youth in general. you do see studies about violent games corrupting white middle class kids in the suburbs. Omg! think of the children type scare campaigns.
Of course not because like you stated, most people tend to think it's the environment or better yet, they do it because of the color of their skin. I understand exactly where this lady is coming from. She is pretty much saying that young white kids can always blame video games or rap music for their actions. I know I shouldn't of let Dave listen to that Snoop Doggy Dogg....lol I'm sure they are messed up people of all races but until people stop being completely biased on all sides, it's never going to end. I know so many people that think that rap music is what's wrong with the world. PFFT.
Post by: oozingrectum on March 02, 2007, 08:03:00 AM
QUOTE(robgue @ Mar 2 2007, 05:19 AM)
i think some maybe missing the point. basically white middle class kids violence is blamed on things like video game violence as opposed to enviroment, etc like black kids.
If you're Caucasian, it's blamed on video games.
If you're African American, it's blamed on gang violence.
If you're Middle Eastern, it's blamed on terrorism.
Did you just realize the stereotypes?
Come on, the FBI's serial killer profile was/is 'a Caucasian male between the ages of 18 and 32.' Were Charles Ng or "Coral" Watts white? Nope.
Oh well, that's how society works I guess..
I'm white, I play violent video games and I listen to brutal death and goregrind. It makes me wonder: if I ever go into a violent schizo phase (again) I wonder what they'll blame, Postal 2 or Viscera Trail...?
Post by: XHN_SCRAPY on March 02, 2007, 11:02:00 AM
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE DO"
"GAMES' DON'T KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE"
no offense t people that are for mrs. clinton im just saying that they are saying games are bad etc. just look into when the hot coffee mod came out the political people went NNNUUUTTTZZZ
Post by: Megamil on March 02, 2007, 05:23:00 PM
QUOTE(tabicat @ Mar 2 2007, 01:23 PM)
Not the studies, the news reports. Whenever a white teen commits some violent crime, video games are almost always mentioned, either as the cause of the kid's behavior or as a hobby (as if a teenager playing video games is uncommon). But whenever there's a report of a black teen, video games are almost never mentioned.
Exactly, the media is the reason for all this BS in the first place. If everytime you turned on the news you hear about some black kid shooting or robbing another kid, everyday for a year, then you will think that's all they do. Black people only make up but so many places in the US. Most of these places are the major cities and even then, all it takes is a few bad apples to spoil it for everyone. Just like when that Columbine (not sure if I spelled it right) shooting occured, they mentioned video games and Eminem and all kinds of crap. I just think the media enforces these stereotypes even more because of the spin they put on most of their stories.
Post by: Megamil on March 03, 2007, 04:09:00 AM
QUOTE(brainscan1975 @ Mar 3 2007, 01:46 AM)
I blame video games for my issues. That hot blonde chick in Dead Rising has turned me into a chronic masturbator. I have to wash my controller like 3 times a week.
Games don't kill people.......crazy jerks with semi automatic assault rifles kill people
Not that I think guns should be banned mind you........I love my guns
That was a pretty stupid article. [B}Seems like she wants more blacks to use games as a scapegoat for crime. [B}
Ahhhhhhh the world we live in. It makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.
That is not what she's saying. She is just pointing out that when it's a young white kid, it's like it must of been the video games or the rap music or that satanic rock music because they came from a good family. When the shoe is on the other foot, people aren't trying to make up 50 million excuses for a young black kids actions. It's just plain and simple that the environment molded them into monsters/killers/thiefs/carjackers/etc.
Post by: rhemelious on March 03, 2007, 05:01:00 AM
QUOTE(Megamil @ Mar 3 2007, 12:30 AM)
Exactly, the media is the reason for all this BS in the first place. If everytime you turned on the news you hear about some black kid shooting or robbing another kid, everyday for a year, then you will think that's all they do. Black people only make up but so many places in the US. Most of these places are the major cities and even then, all it takes is a few bad apples to spoil it for everyone. Just like when that Columbine (not sure if I spelled it right) shooting occured, they mentioned video games and Eminem and all kinds of crap. I just think the media enforces these stereotypes even more because of the spin they put on most of their stories.
Yep, I agree totally.
QUOTE(luther349 @ Mar 2 2007, 03:21 AM)
if they showed black people it would rune there rep of all being gangsters lol.
i'm black, i dont tink i'm a gangster
Post by: Mega_mil on March 03, 2007, 01:54:00 PM
QUOTE(brainscan1975 @ Mar 3 2007, 06:09 PM)
Discriminated against how?
Probably the same way I have been. I was playing with a black character on RS:Vegas and this little 10 year old, girl-sounding white kid says,"That guy is playing as a nigger." I was like ummmm ok but before I could ask the kid a question this other white male, slightly older, tore this kid a new asshole....lol
Post by: gli7ch on March 03, 2007, 02:27:00 PM
Post by: gli7ch on March 03, 2007, 06:54:00 PM
Post by: Mega_mil on March 04, 2007, 07:42:00 AM
QUOTE(brainscan1975 @ Mar 4 2007, 07:37 AM)
I think you guys are confusing prejudice and discrimination. Discrimination would be the act of depriving you of something in an online game because of your race or for another reason. Discrimination in online gaming doesn't exist. Prejudice of course does.
Well we all know what prejudice turns into eventually
Post by: mcq3000 on March 04, 2007, 06:40:00 PM
QUOTE(Megamil @ Mar 2 2007, 07:30 PM)
Exactly, the media is the reason for all this BS in the first place. If everytime you turned on the news you hear about some black kid shooting or robbing another kid, everyday for a year, then you will think that's all they do. Black people only make up but so many places in the US. Most of these places are the major cities and even then, all it takes is a few bad apples to spoil it for everyone. Just like when that Columbine (not sure if I spelled it right) shooting occured, they mentioned video games and Eminem and all kinds of crap. I just think the media enforces these stereotypes even more because of the spin they put on most of their stories.
We can close this thread now, he just summed up the ladies arguments and made an excellent true point. Nothing more to discuss here really, except what to do about the current situation as it stands now
PS. I remember when the media typecast the DC Sniper in Maryland as a white guy, oh how funny it was when it was a moslem Jamaican guy and his trinidadian assistant where responsible. They said he was highly intelligent (so ofcourse white) and probably militarily trained (learn to shoot in his backyard) and all this other crap. Dumb shit like that happens yet things never change. Its sad really.
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lol...lemme guess:
I'll bust a cap in you for the lord or better yet, the Lord told me to do it I guess instead of turning water into wine, he turn water into Gin & Juice
I'll bust a cap in you for the lord or better yet, the Lord told me to do it I guess instead of turning water into wine, he turn water into Gin & Juice
pfft, most rap music isnt so called gangsta rap. You do know that right? Probably 80% of rap music isnt of the "Gin and Juice" variety.
A thread about Racist undertones with plenty of prejudice being spread around. Oh the irony....
Post by: Nytemunkey on March 04, 2007, 10:06:00 PM
QUOTE(capboy210 @ Mar 2 2007, 03:56 AM)
These sociologists should actually back there stuff up with reasearch for once. Then they can make a valid point
A study on this stuff would be interesting.
Believe me. I believe a college educated sociologist over some uneducated BAD parents. The conservative ingnorant crowd (in the US at least) that likes to blame things like music and games to try to explain why their kid sucks at life. Parenting plays the bigger role IMO...
And the article never said that their are scientist trying to prove otherwise. It says that the rulings of the court favor white middle class kids whos parents blame video games for their kids' delinquence. While the lower class minority kid who does a similar act is punished more harshly even tho he probably plays games just as violent and listens to music just as violent.
Its like me at work when I fuck something up, I try to blame it on the new guy even tho I know it is my own damn fault. It takes the spot light away from me and makes me feel like less of a dumbass. Now parents do this when they learn that they fucked up as parents and they blame mass media to try and avoid a mid life crisis.
Post by: elitegamer360 on March 05, 2007, 07:26:00 AM
QUOTE(Mega_mil @ Mar 3 2007, 10:45 PM)
lol...lemme guess:
I'll bust a cap in you for the lord or better yet, the Lord told me to do it
I guess instead of turning water into wine, he turn water into Gin & Juice 
ye like j.bush the lord tells him to do things
Post by: Mega_mil on March 05, 2007, 07:30:00 AM
QUOTE(mcq3000 @ Mar 5 2007, 02:47 AM)
pfft, most rap music isnt so called gangsta rap. You do know that right? Probably 80% of rap music isnt of the "Gin and Juice" variety.
Well that depends on who you ask. Most of the artist in the game right now consider themselves gangstas or thugs. I prefer to call most of them studio thugs but then again anyone can feel like a giant if you have 5-10 people with guns behind you. You do have artist like Lupe Fiasco but I don't think he's that great even though he's more of a "positive" rapper.