Post by: _iffy on March 20, 2006, 08:21:00 PM
Politics, News and Religion forum has become a little stale so i thought i'd start some shit.
Seriously what does everyone think. Iran want a nuclear energy program, the US thinks they want
a nuclear weapons program so their saying no way to either.
The UN wants an investigation into their intentions.
The US said they'll do a pre-emptive strike if Iran starts a weapons program(they did word it differently).
What do you guys think?
Post by: gcskate27 on March 20, 2006, 09:07:00 PM
*when they are, after the fact, supposed to be liberating the people...
Post by: thewickedjester on March 21, 2006, 02:16:00 PM
Post by: deadparrot on March 21, 2006, 02:22:00 PM
QUOTE(thewickedjester @ Mar 21 2006, 09:23 PM) 
I say bomb em anyways, Bush needs to set a record for invading 3 sandy countries in only 2 terms, thats gotta be a record.
Bush: We're going to bomb Iran!
Secretary: I'll inform the Guiness Book of World Records!
Post by: throwingks on March 21, 2006, 10:09:00 PM
The US should stand by the UN get every country to get rid of nuclear weapons, including the US. But, we should be the last to give them up.
Post by: Modderxtrordanare on March 21, 2006, 10:24:00 PM
If you were to be living in Iran, and the americas said you had to give your nuclear weapons up first, wouldn't you rather them lose theirs first?
Also, ever heard the saying "If weapons are banned, then the good guys wont have weapons but the bad guys will"
Maybe not a saying, but I hear it alot.
Post by: throwingks on March 22, 2006, 09:04:00 AM
I am not saying ban weapons, just nukes that render the area lifeless, for hundreds of years.
PS - http://www.cbsnews.c...D8GG1PVG3.shtml
Korea is freaking scary, and not getting any news lately.
Post by: _iffy on March 22, 2006, 10:31:00 AM
This really is a powder keg.
When america helps india with it's nuclear energy program is pisses of North Korea, and Iran.
It's a delicate matter and bush is just gunnin' through it. An elephant in a china shop.
QUOTE
North Korea first declared last year that it has nuclear weapons,
although the claim could not be confirmed independently.
Experts believe the North has extracted enough plutonium from
its main nuclear reactor for at least a half-dozen weapons.
For those who don't know weapons grade plutonium can be made from energy grade plutonium.
This is why America see's Iran's nuclear energy program as a nuclear weapons program.
However i'm sure there's a better way to handle it.
What really scares me though is Kofi Anan is due to resign as secratary general of the UN,
by the end of this year. I'm afraid that once he's gone the US will use it's influence to put someone
they want to replace Kofi. Someone as right winged as they are. Kofi is an honorable man who
believes any conflict can be resolved through negotiations, regardless of how long it takes.
It will be extreamly hard to replace someone so patient.
Someone like Bush will just declare war. Even before they decide war against who.
The world does need to dissarm it's nuclear capability, but the bush administration is really going
about it the wrong way. Making more and more enemys as it goes.
Seriously though could this guy really be evil?
He just wants to be invited to the party.
Post by: PhatIrishBastard on March 22, 2006, 12:52:00 PM
QUOTE(_iffy @ Mar 22 2006, 12:38 PM)
I bet america is just as scary to the north koreans.
This really is a powder keg.
When america helps india with it's nuclear energy program is pisses of North Korea, and Iran.
It's a delicate matter and bush is just gunnin' through it. An elephant in a china shop.
For those who don't know weapons grade plutonium can be made from energy grade plutonium.
This is why America see's Iran's nuclear energy program as a nuclear weapons program.
However i'm sure there's a better way to handle it.
What really scares me though is Kofi Anan is due to resign as secratary general of the UN,
by the end of this year. I'm afraid that once he's gone the US will use it's influence to put someone
they want to replace Kofi. Someone as right winged as they are. Kofi is an honorable man who
believes any conflict can be resolved through negotiations, regardless of how long it takes.
It will be extreamly hard to replace someone so patient.
Someone like Bush will just declare war. Even before they decide war against who.
The world does need to dissarm it's nuclear capability, but the bush administration is really going
about it the wrong way. Making more and more enemys as it goes.
Seriously though could this guy really be evil?
He just wants to be invited to the party.
N. Korea was threatening preemptive strike in release just days ago, didnt get much attention at all in the states.
Dubya is going to get a lot of you good ol' boys "kilt"
Post by: throwingks on March 22, 2006, 01:07:00 PM
http://times.hankook...17272311970.htm
Post by: buttface96 on March 22, 2006, 08:51:00 PM
Post by: damam on March 24, 2006, 10:21:00 AM
What are you saying: That President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Kim Jong are just misunderstood social benefactors? If only we could hold hands and sing in unison.
QUOTE
I say bomb em anyways, Bush needs to set a record for invading 3 sandy countries in only 2 terms, thats gotta be a record.
Seem to have forgotten FDR, if bush is going to beat him he really needs to get crackin, he doesnt have much time
Post by: jha'dhur on April 03, 2006, 04:15:00 PM
QUOTE(throwingks @ Mar 22 2006, 12:16 AM)
If we dont strike preemtively, when should we? After they bomb the shit out of someplace and make it unlivable for a couple hundred years. Then we bomb them and make that unlivable. That is no good.
The US should stand by the UN get every country to get rid of nuclear weapons, including the US. But, we should be the last to give them up.
Funny since Japan is people still live in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
But Iran just tested its submersible missle bought from the russians cable of 200 mph.
That will outswim just about anything, especially an oil tanker.
Boys and Girls, DRAFT IS COMING........
LOL
Post by: throwingks on April 03, 2006, 04:28:00 PM
QUOTE(jha'dhur @ Apr 3 2006, 03:22 PM)
Funny since Japan is people still live in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Bro. What is wrong with you? 
<sarcasm>
You're right nukes don't hurt the environment.
I am sorry, instead of UNlivable I should have said LESSlivable.</sarcasm>
http://www.rerf.or.j...tles/radtoc.htm
And, I am the one who argues semantics?
Anyone else that didn't understand what I meant raise your hand.
Post by: jha'dhur on April 03, 2006, 04:43:00 PM
Post by: _iffy on April 03, 2006, 04:49:00 PM
QUOTE(jha'dhur @ Apr 3 2006, 06:50 PM)
Is that present day Nagasaki............
dude your going to have to explain those pictures or delete them.
Post by: jha'dhur on April 03, 2006, 04:57:00 PM
Post by: throwingks on April 03, 2006, 04:58:00 PM
Post by: jha'dhur on April 03, 2006, 05:11:00 PM
QUOTE(throwingks @ Apr 3 2006, 06:05 PM)
What's your point? They are still dealing with repercussions. Nuclear bombs are bad.
It seems somewhat misleading to post a 60 year old B&W image and insinuate that it is in anyway shape or form resemblance of Nagasaki/Hiroshima/Japan in 2006. Less than the 100 years you claim.
People still inhabit Chernobyl, which gave off way more particulate contamination than Atom Bomb.
I have been to Nevada test site where bombs were tested in the last 30-40 years.
I agree with your post, all but the BS.
Post by: _iffy on April 03, 2006, 05:23:00 PM
QUOTE(jha'dhur @ Apr 3 2006, 07:18 PM)
I have been to Nevada test site where bombs were tested in the last 30-40 years.
Finally an explanation!!
BTW thanks for explaning your pics.
Post by: jha'dhur on April 03, 2006, 05:26:00 PM
QUOTE(_iffy @ Apr 3 2006, 06:30 PM)
Finally an explanation!!
BTW thanks for explaning your pics.
Are you ever going to claim your $100.00.
Money Talks, Bullshit runs the marathon......
Post by: _iffy on April 03, 2006, 05:41:00 PM
What i said was you could add individual electrons, protons, until you end up with gold.
Post by: throwingks on April 03, 2006, 05:59:00 PM
QUOTE(jha'dhur @ Apr 3 2006, 04:18 PM)
It seems somewhat misleading to post a 60 year old B&W image and insinuate that it is in anyway shape or form resemblance of Nagasaki/Hiroshima/Japan in 2006. Less than the 100 years you claim.
People still inhabit Chernobyl, which gave off way more particulate contamination than Atom Bomb.
I have been to Nevada test site where bombs were tested in the last 30-40 years.
I agree with your post, all but the BS.
Semantics, first you complain about people using them, then that is all you can rely on. You are now looking to argue with anyone and everyone, using anything you can as a crutch.People still inhabit Chernobyl, which gave off way more particulate contamination than Atom Bomb.
I have been to Nevada test site where bombs were tested in the last 30-40 years.
I agree with your post, all but the BS.
People in Hiroshima still get cancer. That isnt speculation, I gave a link. So maybe it isnt unlivable but it is less-livable like I said. Show me my B.S.
Why do you resort to making fun of people? Do you feel your posts aren't strong enough without it?
I will say you made people visit and post more than normal here lately. Even if you should be banned.
Post by: jha'dhur on April 03, 2006, 06:24:00 PM
QUOTE(throwingks @ Apr 3 2006, 07:06 PM)
Semantics, first you complain about people using them, then that is all you can rely on. You are now looking to argue with anyone and everyone, using anything you can as a crutch.
People in Hiroshima still get cancer. That isnt speculation, I gave a link. So maybe it isnt unlivable but it is less-livable like I said. Show me my B.S.
Why do you resort to making fun of people? Do you feel your posts aren't strong enough without it?
I will say you made people visit and post more than normal here lately. Even if you should be banned.
LITTLE BOY I CANT BE BANNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe this BS easyboard is some egnimatic mystery to you but it isnt to me.
Post by: throwingks on April 03, 2006, 06:46:00 PM
Say hello to xmedia and bluedeath for me. Both of whom I kinda miss
I suggest you re-read this.
http://pictures.xbox...rules/Rules.htm
You did read it once, right?
Post by: jha'dhur on April 03, 2006, 07:15:00 PM
QUOTE(throwingks @ Apr 3 2006, 07:53 PM)
Okay, your holiness. Are you upset that maybe, a dumb jock, is more intelligent than you? What is the mystery to me? Cause I guess there is one, I never knew to look for it.
Say hello to xmedia and bluedeath for me. Both of whom I kinda miss
I suggest you re-read this.
http://pictures.xbox...rules/Rules.htm
You did read it once, right?
Dont hold your breath.
Post by: _iffy on April 03, 2006, 07:35:00 PM
FYI - one of the rules is excessive flaming. So far you've had three people tell you to stop.
You should be aware that x-s doesn't need a reason to ban you.
Now your relativly new here so you should know that.
Don't get me wrong here, flame wars can be fun, but you have to know when to stop.
Now is one of those times.
Post by: throwingks on April 03, 2006, 08:53:00 PM
QUOTE(puckSR @ Apr 3 2006, 07:55 PM)
Guys...if you havent figured it out yet....
Xmedia-->IrishBastard-->jha'dhur
bluemedia is someone else...or there is something really really wrong with Xmedia
Couple of hints.....
incredibly insulting...when it isnt necessary
goes completely off topic for no reason
obsesses over rather odd topics
strictly anti-catholic protestant who is anti-government(well the current govt...)
poor math skills--->which i will explain later
Apparently though...Xmedia finally got a lesson on how gravity worked....and that might explain his new arrogance....
Now...I could be very wrong....but it all makes sense when you think about it
On the topic:
jha'dhur is correct...
Atomic sites are inhabitable....Nagasaki, Hiroshima, test sites in Nevada
sites of nuclear disasters are also inhabitable....such as Chernobyl.
However, take the example of the Bikini atoll. It was the site of nuclear bomb testing in the pacific.
The people of the bikini atoll were moved in 1946....in 1975 the people tried to return...but there were still significant radiation fears...currently the island is inhabitable...
Just remember that except for Chernobyl...you are discussing atomic bombs...not nuclear bombs....
Chernobyl wasnt a bomb....and shouldnt be compared to one....
We only have one area that was devastated by nuclear weapons....and they are still having problems 50 years later.
That would make me right not jha'dhur, unless I misunderstand something. His stance is all is well in those sites. I provided a link that says otherwise, a few posts up.
I exaggerated the amount of years, for effect, however, they are less habitable, then areas not of radiation.
http://www.bikiniatoll.com/
QUOTE
"It is safe to walk on all of the islands...The Advisory Group reaffirmed: although the residual radioactivity on islands in Bikini Atoll is still higher than on other atolls in the Marshall islands, it is not hazardous to health at the levels measured. Indeed, there are many places in the world where people have been living for generations with higher levels of radioactivity from natural sources - such as the geological surroundings and the sun - than there is now on Bikini Atoll...By all internationally agreed scientific and medical criteria...the air, the land surface, the lagoon water and the drinking water are all safe. There is no radiological risk in visiting the lagoon or the islands. The nuclear weapon tests have left practically no cesium in marine life. The cesium deposited in the lagoon was dispersed in the ocean long ago.
"The main radiation risk would be from the food: eating locally grown produce, such as fruit, could add significant radioactivity to the body...Eating coconuts or breadfruit from Bikini Island occasionally would be no cause for concern. But eating many over a long period of time without having taken remedial measures might result in radiation doses higher than internationally agreed safety levels."
Post by: puckSR on April 03, 2006, 10:59:00 PM
they are habitable....
and while you may have some arguments about the safety of those areas when compared to others...the experts have determined them to be safe....
Post by: lordvader129 on April 04, 2006, 01:06:00 AM
however, i would like to point out that the first picture of "nagasaki" that jha'dur posted is actually Nagasaki Day, an anti-war protest in melbourne australia (the english banner is a dead giveaway) funny since jha'dur criticised me for using google, at least i check the context of what i post
http://www.melbourne...03/08/52034.php
Post by: jha'dhur on April 04, 2006, 05:52:00 AM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Apr 4 2006, 02:13 AM)
yeah, unfortunately jha'dur is right about nuclear sites being inhabitable (if not pleasant), throwingks, you described them as being "unlivable"
however, i would like to point out that the first picture of "nagasaki" that jha'dur posted is actually Nagasaki Day, an anti-war protest in melbourne australia (the english banner is a dead giveaway) funny since jha'dur criticised me for using google, at least i check the context of what i post
http://www.melbourne...03/08/52034.php
No Actually I criticized you for being a "MA ROON" interjecting into something you had no first hand knowledge of.
P.S.S. And your point is, OH you dont have a point other thant to pick PUCKS d*ck back up from the dirt. GOOD JOB. I am going to have to send you one of those cheerleader uniforms.
P.S. You still dint answer my qeustion Senior BIG MOUTH......
Post by: lordvader129 on April 04, 2006, 11:30:00 AM
QUOTE(jha'dhur @ Apr 4 2006, 04:59 AM)
No Actually I criticized you for being a "MA ROON" interjecting into something you had no first hand knowledge of.
P.S.S. And your point is, OH you dont have a point other thant to pick PUCKS d*ck back up from the dirt. GOOD JOB. I am going to have to send you one of those cheerleader uniforms.
P.S. You still dint answer my qeustion Senior BIG MOUTH......
it was in another thread
QUOTE
GOOGLE built for morons
and i was posting this simply to damage your credibility
and what question "dint" i answer?
Post by: jha'dhur on April 04, 2006, 04:32:00 PM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Apr 4 2006, 12:37 PM)
it was in another thread
and i was posting this simply to damage your credibility
and what question "dint" i answer?
Post by: jha'dhur on April 04, 2006, 06:40:00 PM
QUOTE(puckSR @ Apr 4 2006, 06:50 PM)
????
wow jha' ....you have completely lost the ability to reply.....
I guess your a little embarassed cause you posted a picture from Australia claiming it was Nagasaki...
The great thing about you...no matter how much of a fool you make out of yourself....
Your always more than willing to be an asshole on top of it all....
I have a minimum IQ requirement.
You should be a priest since you dont know shit about science.
DU MASSS
Post by: jha'dhur on April 04, 2006, 07:49:00 PM
QUOTE(puckSR @ Apr 3 2006, 09:55 PM)
Guys...if you havent figured it out yet....
Xmedia-->IrishBastard-->jha'dhur
bluemedia is someone else...or there is something really really wrong with Xmedia
Couple of hints.....
incredibly insulting...when it isnt necessary
goes completely off topic for no reason
obsesses over rather odd topics
strictly anti-catholic protestant who is anti-government(well the current govt...)
poor math skills--->which i will explain later
Apparently though...Xmedia finally got a lesson on how gravity worked....and that might explain his new arrogance....
WOW, SHERLOCK
Don't, quite you day job.
Post by: lordvader129 on April 04, 2006, 07:52:00 PM
QUOTE(jha'dhur @ Apr 4 2006, 08:56 PM)
Don't, quite you day job.
is it just me or are your linguistic skills degrading with every post?
Post by: jha'dhur on April 04, 2006, 07:59:00 PM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Apr 4 2006, 08:59 PM)
is it just me or are your linguistic skills degrading with every post?
Puck's going to get jealous. BTW I'm a natural blonde.
Post by: jha'dhur on April 04, 2006, 09:04:00 PM
QUOTE(puckSR @ Apr 4 2006, 09:54 PM)
So why did you lie and say you were going to Iraq?
You are an idiot. Nothing MORE nothing LESS.
If the only way for you to process that fact is to think that I am bluedeath, FatBastard, XXxmedia, the easter bunny or Satan Clause.
Knock Yourself Out.
DUMMY
IRAQ?????????????
Post by: puckSR on April 04, 2006, 09:32:00 PM
but....you show a glaring similarity