Post by: damam on February 14, 2006, 10:28:00 AM
uhmm, yeah that makes sense
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Post by: C o s m o on February 14, 2006, 10:46:00 AM
But as fat as the regulations themselves, I'm OK with this...and I'm fairly liberal on most things.
Post by: pug_ster on February 14, 2006, 11:03:00 AM
Post by: C o s m o on February 14, 2006, 11:49:00 AM
This may be one of those "end justifying the means" situations.
Post by: bluedeath on February 14, 2006, 12:27:00 PM
Post by: damam on February 14, 2006, 05:21:00 PM
I agree with BD, this wont change anything really. The main suppliers wont be effected. I might have fewer garage fires in my neighborhood, but that will be about it.
Post by: lordvader129 on February 14, 2006, 05:58:00 PM
Post by: therebelious1 on February 15, 2006, 07:26:00 AM
crystal meth?
methanol?
methylated spirits?
methane?
method man?
methodists?
sorry for being a little dumb....
Post by: C o s m o on February 15, 2006, 08:39:00 AM
QUOTE(therebelious1 @ Feb 15 2006, 08:33 AM) 
when you say meth what do you mean?
crystal meth?
methanol?
methylated spirits?
methane?
method man?
methodists?
sorry for being a little dumb....
Meth as in Crystal Meth, aka crank.
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Feb 14 2006, 07:05 PM)
i had the flu about 3 weeks ago, i had to go to the store every day to buy cough syrup because the bastards wouldnt sell me the large bottle of robitussin
That's just stupid.
QUOTE(damam @ Feb 14 2006, 06:28 PM)
I wrote it more because I hate christmas tree legislation. Thats how ridiculous laws get created in the first place.
Post by: pug_ster on February 15, 2006, 10:19:00 AM
http://talent.senate...cfm?NewsID=1531
Post by: CattyKid on February 15, 2006, 10:11:00 PM
Thanks for curing the diserase I call ignorance.
Post by: C o s m o on February 16, 2006, 09:10:00 AM
QUOTE(CattyKid @ Feb 15 2006, 11:18 PM)
Being a person that is luckily relatively sheltered, what real affects does meth have on people who don't use it themselves or do not have friends that use it? I would be interested to learn more about this.
Thanks for curing the diserase I call ignorance.
I wouldn't call you ignorant. Ignorant wouldn't ask this question. You're actually fairly enlightened for a guy your age.Not only is there a taxpayer burden, but meth addicts become unbelieveably lazy. They exist only to serve their addiction. The end result is that they steal, both to buy drugs and to eat.
Addicted parents expose their kids to all manner of risks. Some old neighbors of mine were meth addicts. They would shoot-up and have sex in the house, but their 3 kids were sent outside. The kids were severely neglected; they lacked basic human involvement. They were needy as hell. In the winter (now it doesn't get THAT cold in Texas, but...) they would be outside with a shirt and pants. That's it. EVERYTHING they owned was handed-down. My wife and I quietly would give them clothes, and they wore them rather proudly. Non the less, the kids are growing up raising themselves.
Meth manufacturers steal too. They frequently steal chemicals needed to make it-sudaphed, ammonia, etc. Manufacturers also pose MAJOR health risks to the general public and police. The making of Meth produces serious harmful/fatal toxins, and meth labs frequently explode for a number of reasons, mainly the combination of fire and chemicals.
Post by: damam on February 16, 2006, 10:02:00 AM
make no mistake, meth is bad for families and society. I have had friends waste there lives on it. But in the end it comes down to choice, and we should only limit that in extreme situations. Meth does not warrant an extreme situation.
Post by: CattyKid on February 17, 2006, 09:23:00 PM
Usually, at least in my small town, we are fed all those videos that seem to choose the WORST experiences (aren't many poisitive experiences with drugs, though) people have had due to something bad and pose it as the norm. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.
Now that I've heard something from someone that isn't biased or really trying to convince me of anything (esp. Cosmo) it helps. I thank you for that.
Being in a small, pretty safe town, there are some advantages and some disadvantages.
Advantages: Safety, people care about each other more.
Disadvantages: Sometimes you don't find out how the world really works or how to refuse some really bad things until "everyone is doing it" and it becomes too late. So many people in from my school (previous Seniors) have gone to college and done bad things (become alcoholics etc.). And they were "good" kids before this.
Post by: thewickedjester on February 24, 2006, 11:58:00 AM
I suppose its not a bad thing to have on the patriot act, but this needs to stop, we need to limit the riders that are put on bills proposed to the house... This is how we get ridiculous laws...
Post by: PhatIrishBastard on February 24, 2006, 12:20:00 PM
From what I have read the Patriot Act has been only invoked to shutdown and incarcerate the owner of a Las Vegas strip club, depicted in showgirls. I dont see the correlation between strippers and terroists, maybe weapons of arse destruction.
METH, the NAZI legacy lives on. Still taking white lives as Hitler intended nearly 70 years ago, But since only the hillbilly NAZI want a be's are wasting their teeth
, and their lives, seems like poetic justice.AND who said the universe doesnt have a sense of humor....
Post by: damam on March 02, 2006, 10:13:00 AM
One of my best high school friends just got put in jail for crimes committed while on meth. We actually did meth occasionally (among other things) together in high school. It blew me away the stuff they said he did. What a sad waist of a life. He was incredibly intelligent, got around a 1500 on the SAT's (while tripping on acid!) and got a perfect score on the PSAT. Now you look at him and there is basically nothing there. It might be one thing if he was the only one. But I have a couple friends (actually most of them) from that era in my life that are heading down that same path. Its very tough for me. Freedom of choice means so much to me, even when it means your own ruin. On the other hand, i cant help but wonder what would have happened had he never used drugs at all. He has made some very sad choices in his life, and he has really hurt a lot of innocent people in the process.
The other thing is that I saw a show on frontline a while back about meth, that really convinced me that meth is something that could truly be eradicated. Its not like coke, pot, shrooms, etc. Its something that truly could be made very difficult to get, and therefore very expensive to buy. Most of the war on drugs seems like bs to me just an endless pit to absorb my tax dollars. But this is a model of getting rid of a particular drug that has worked in the past (w/ quaaludes), so it could work now. . .
Post by: PhatIrishBastard on March 06, 2006, 03:49:00 PM
QUOTE(damam @ Mar 2 2006, 12:20 PM)
i still oppose this in the patriot act but my stance on meth is wavering . . .
One of my best high school friends just got put in jail for crimes committed while on meth. We actually did meth occasionally (among other things) together in high school. It blew me away the stuff they said he did. What a sad waist of a life. He was incredibly intelligent, got around a 1500 on the SAT's (while tripping on acid!) and got a perfect score on the PSAT. Now you look at him and there is basically nothing there. It might be one thing if he was the only one. But I have a couple friends (actually most of them) from that era in my life that are heading down that same path. Its very tough for me. Freedom of choice means so much to me, even when it means your own ruin. On the other hand, i cant help but wonder what would have happened had he never used drugs at all. He has made some very sad choices in his life, and he has really hurt a lot of innocent people in the process.
The other thing is that I saw a show on frontline a while back about meth, that really convinced me that meth is something that could truly be eradicated. Its not like coke, pot, shrooms, etc. Its something that truly could be made very difficult to get, and therefore very expensive to buy. Most of the war on drugs seems like bs to me just an endless pit to absorb my tax dollars. But this is a model of getting rid of a particular drug that has worked in the past (w/ quaaludes), so it could work now. . .
Meth isnt going anywhere there are far to many ways to synthesize this drug, in comparison to x or crack.
I say good ridance. we need a good solution for the dregs of our society. Maybe Dsiney can buy Kentucky and turn into a jungle park.
Post by: killerbootsman on March 06, 2006, 03:59:00 PM
Post by: PhatIrishBastard on March 07, 2006, 02:47:00 PM
QUOTE(killerbootsman @ Mar 6 2006, 06:06 PM)
i think instead of the government using money to enforce drug prevention, they should research how to make the drug safer, and less addictive.
Yeah they call it Methadone, skillet or the fire either way you get burned.
Post by: PhatIrishBastard on March 08, 2006, 02:55:00 PM
QUOTE(slightly_damp @ Mar 8 2006, 02:33 PM)
^^ But that's a heroin substitute, nothing to do with crystal meth!
"Meth" a done is a heroin substitue, but I am sure you most likely know better than I do.
Post by: CattyKid on March 08, 2006, 04:43:00 PM
QUOTE(PhatIrishBastard @ Mar 6 2006, 05:56 PM)
I say good ridance. we need a good solution for the dregs of our society. Maybe Dsiney can buy Kentucky and turn into a jungle park.
Dregs of society? Did you read damam's latest post? At all? He has many friends, good and intelligent people, that wasted their lives on drugs. One can lead to another. These people aren't the "dregs" you call them: they are PEOPLE, people that need help like someone with a mental disability needs help. Do you consider schizophrenics the dregs of society as well, then?
Sure, you can say, "It was their own choice," but I ask you to remember this:
peer pressure can really be a bitch.
Trust me, I've seen crap happen to good people because their "friends" pressured them into it.
They aren't dregs, they just need help. Drugs are horrible, and even some strong people can't quit on their own.
Post by: PhatIrishBastard on March 09, 2006, 01:01:00 PM
QUOTE(CattyKid @ Mar 8 2006, 06:50 PM)
Dregs of society? Did you read damam's latest post? At all? He has many friends, good and intelligent people, that wasted their lives on drugs. One can lead to another. These people aren't the "dregs" you call them: they are PEOPLE, people that need help like someone with a mental disability needs help. Do you consider schizophrenics the dregs of society as well, then?
Sure, you can say, "It was their own choice," but I ask you to remember this:
peer pressure can really be a bitch.
Trust me, I've seen crap happen to good people because their "friends" pressured them into it.
They aren't dregs, they just need help. Drugs are horrible, and even some strong people can't quit on their own.
War on drugs is biggest fraud since war on iraq.
If you are stupid enough to take illicit narcotics you probably get what you deserve.
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Trust me, I've seen crap happen to good people because their "friends" pressured them into it.
WTF is this some after school special, peer pressure is so cliche.
Methamphetamine was made by NAZI's for one reason to ruin european lives, no different from crack and others.
Cigarettes kill, tobacco kills no one puts gun to your head and forces you to smoke/drink/ inhale or suck young cocks(<- PuckSr's case).
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Do you consider schizophrenics the dregs of society as well, then?
Are schizophrenics treated with METH??
The leading cause of new HIV infections in this country are IV drug users.
Post by: lordvader129 on March 09, 2006, 03:31:00 PM
QUOTE(PhatIrishBastard @ Mar 9 2006, 02:08 PM)
Methamphetamine was made by NAZI's for one reason to ruin european lives, no different from crack and others.
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Methamphetamine was first synthesized in 1919 by Japanese chemist A. Ogata
hitlers personal physician gave him daily injections of methamphetamine, but its doubtful even hitler himself knew what it really was (it was always called a vitamin) and distributed to high ranking SS soldiers to increase their efficiency, it was also given to many allied soldiers as a stimulant, and the japanese used it widely as well
it was considered a "performance enhancer" and was used by the military, it was never intended to ruin lives, quite the opposite, it was supposed to create super-soldiers
Post by: PhatIrishBastard on March 09, 2006, 03:44:00 PM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Mar 9 2006, 05:38 PM)
hitlers personal physician gave him daily injections of methamphetamine, but its doubtful even hitler himself knew what it really was (it was always called a vitamin) and distributed to high ranking SS soldiers to increase their efficiency, it was also given to many allied soldiers as a stimulant, and the japanese used it widely as well
it was considered a "performance enhancer" and was used by the military, it was never intended to ruin lives, quite the opposite, it was supposed to create super-soldiers
Nazis were circulating METH amongst British night scene and undergroung well documented.
Hitler on METH kind of doubt it was he on narcotics yes well documented. Meth probably not.
Post by: lordvader129 on March 09, 2006, 03:54:00 PM
QUOTE(PhatIrishBastard @ Mar 9 2006, 04:51 PM)
Nazis were circulating METH amongst British night scene and undergroung well documented.
Hitler on METH kind of doubt it was he on narcotics yes well documented. Meth probably not.
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From 1942, the Nazi leader Adolf Hitler received daily injections of methamphetamine from his personal physician, Dr Theodor Morell. Hitler's ailments have been attributed to everything from tertiary syphilis to Parkinson's disease. But many of The Führer's clinical signs and symptoms may have been caused by his exotic drug regimen.
In Hitler's Wehrmacht, methamphetamine tablets branded as Pervitin were liberally distributed to German fighting troops throughout the War. Amphetamines are "power drugs" that reduce fatigue, heighten aggression, and diminish human warmth and empathy.
In Hitler's Wehrmacht, methamphetamine tablets branded as Pervitin were liberally distributed to German fighting troops throughout the War. Amphetamines are "power drugs" that reduce fatigue, heighten aggression, and diminish human warmth and empathy.
they probably gave the narcotics to the british, seriously, why would you give a drug to "reduce fatigue, heighten aggression, and diminish human warmth and empathy" to the enemy? that makes no sense
Post by: damam on March 09, 2006, 04:27:00 PM
The war on drugs is bs, but i do believe that meth is a battle that could be taken on with good results. i do believe that ephedrines and pseodophedrines can be globally policed to a point where meth becomes scarce and the quality is low. These chemicals are not easy to make, and there are only a handful of chemical companies that make them world wide. basically making it so that meth would have to be made from ephedra and essentially you would get a low quality product for a high price. history has shown that as the quality of meth has dropped the number of addicts has dropped as well. The question is not whether this will work or not, the real question is should we force non-abusers to suffer as well.
Post by: CattyKid on March 09, 2006, 10:22:00 PM
QUOTE(PhatIrishBastard @ Mar 9 2006, 03:08 PM)
War on drugs is biggest fraud since war on iraq.
If you are stupid enough to take illicit narcotics you probably get what you deserve.
WTF is this some after school special, peer pressure is so cliche.
Cigarettes kill, tobacco kills no one puts gun to your head and forces you to smoke/drink/ inhale
Kids are STUPID. Trust me, I'm one of them. Most kids think in the MOMENT, and don't look towards the future. Once again, a lot of "good" kids do REALLY stupid stuff because it's "cool."
Why care for the future when you can have "fun" now?
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Are schizophrenics treated with METH??
Nope, and I didn't say that. Schizophrenics have mental problems, Meth causes the user mental problems.
QUOTE
The leading cause of new HIV infections in this country are IV drug users.
What does this have anything to do with it?
Post by: damam on March 10, 2006, 08:29:00 AM
QUOTE(CattyKid @ Mar 9 2006, 06:29 PM)
Kids are STUPID. Trust me, I'm one of them. Most kids think in the MOMENT, and don't look towards the future. Once again, a lot of "good" kids do REALLY stupid stuff because it's "cool."
Why care for the future when you can have "fun" now?
its interesting - my husband told me a while back that teenagers tend to have the same brainscans you would expect to see in a fullblown sociopath. essentially very little, if any, frontal lobe activity or in other words no advanced reasoning skills. its amazing any of us survive being a teenager, and that columbine is not a weekly occurance.
Post by: PhatIrishBastard on March 10, 2006, 12:04:00 PM
QUOTE(CattyKid @ Mar 10 2006, 12:29 AM)
Kids are STUPID. Trust me, I'm one of them. Most kids think in the MOMENT, and don't look towards the future. Once again, a lot of "good" kids do REALLY stupid stuff because it's "cool."
Why care for the future when you can have "fun" now?
Nope, and I didn't say that. Schizophrenics have mental problems, Meth causes the user mental problems.
What does this have anything to do with it?
QUOTE
Kids are STUPID. Trust me, I'm one of them.
Probably the smartest thing you have said in 2167 posts.
QUOTE
What does this have anything to do with it?
Getting pricked in the arm or the backside is the easiest way to acquire HIV. That should be self explanatory.
But,
QUOTE(CattyKid @ Mar 10 2006, 12:29 AM)
Kids are STUPID. Trust me, I'm one of them. Most kids think in the MOMENT, and don't look towards the future.
Post by: CattyKid on March 10, 2006, 05:12:00 PM
QUOTE(puckSR @ Mar 10 2006, 02:46 PM)
PhatBastard
So far....youve avoided backing up your psychotic Nazi story
you have not apologized to _moist
you have not admitted any mistake on your part
you have been unnecessarily mean-spirited towards other people
I can only hope that this is not the way you behave in typical social settings....if it is....then you truly are an asshole.
It is really getting aggravating....Bastard/Bluedeath/Xmedia.....
you make some insane claim that is totally false....and then you either argue it to the point of absurdity no matter what the evidence.....or you pretend as if you had never said anything.
This would be tolerable if you didnt insult everyone while you were making these absurd claims.
You really need to take a long hard look at yourself in the mirror....and realize that your personality is perhaps the most irritating I have ever encountered.
Thanks you, sir.
Post by: PhatIrishBastard on March 13, 2006, 01:54:00 PM
QUOTE(pug_ster @ Mar 1 2006, 12:54 AM)
FYI, puckSR, remember that post about racism a while back and you get personal about me? Don't be like Karl Rove: If you can't attack his/her argument, attack his/her character.
Thanks you, sir.
Post by: CattyKid on March 14, 2006, 03:47:00 PM
QUOTE(UnLckyN @ Mar 13 2006, 09:30 PM)
I think the war on drugs just being handled wrong. Im all for the legalization of weed and certian psychedelics but not stimulants or opiates Ive seen them ruin lives unlike weed.
Yeah, I personally think that weeb should be legal as well. People are going to smoke it, why not make money off of it? If it were legal, would it be any worse for society than alcohol is? Smoke weed and get stoned. Drink booze, you get drunk. Both result in changes in mood as well as impaired judgement. We're wasting too much money on fighting weed and jailing offenders.
Post by: PhatIrishBastard on March 15, 2006, 12:08:00 PM
QUOTE(CattyKid @ Mar 14 2006, 05:54 PM)
Yeah, I personally think that weeb should be legal as well. People are going to smoke it, why not make money off of it? If it were legal, would it be any worse for society than alcohol is? Smoke weed and get stoned. Drink booze, you get drunk. Both result in changes in mood as well as impaired judgement. We're wasting too much money on fighting weed and jailing offenders.
The war on drugs is just a final solution for the coloreds in N. America.
I was reading the latest manifesto posted by the board head moderator. There is a nexus between negroes and drugs, they sell em.
Illicit drug trade is a mutlibillion dollar enterprise in America alone. Negroes are sure hiding the money well.
Incarceration as a result of drug use or trafficking in my opinion is just stupid. Marijuana and a "few" others should be legal just like tobacco.
War on Drugs only serves to remove certain indivduals from society at a considerable taxpayer burden.
Post by: lordvader129 on March 15, 2006, 01:16:00 PM
QUOTE
Negroes are sure hiding the money well.
i dont think id consider a set of rims in which each wheel costs more than my entire car to be "hiding" it
Post by: PhatIrishBastard on March 15, 2006, 02:46:00 PM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Mar 15 2006, 03:23 PM)
i dont think id consider a set of rims in which each wheel costs more than my entire car to be "hiding" it
Either:
You are slightly exxagerating
Or
You drive a really cheap car...
Considering Americans comprise 235 million of nearly 6 billion peoples I wouldnt draw any grandeous racial conclusion based upon a handful of individuals from a group of a handful of individuals, other than Americans are frivolous, violent, drug addicts.
But sterotypes never do involve much logic.
Keep up the good work
*************************************************************
P.S. Just noticed you drive a FORD, explains alot.
Post by: damam on March 15, 2006, 02:56:00 PM
the average drug dealer lives with their parents and makes less than minimum wage in their drug dealing job . . . .
Post by: lordvader129 on March 15, 2006, 03:52:00 PM
QUOTE(damam @ Mar 15 2006, 04:03 PM)
according to freakanomics
the average drug dealer lives with their parents and makes less than minimum wage in their drug dealing job . . . .
yeah, well you dont really notice the "average" drug dealer
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other than Americans are frivolous, violent, drug addicts.
so i guess that makes you a frivolous, violent, drug addict, right? explains alot
QUOTE
You are slightly exxagerating
Or
You drive a really cheap car...
Or
You drive a really cheap car...
now its an exaggeration, but a year ago it wasnt, 5000 dollar rims are not an uncommon sight where i live (and im not even in LA)
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P.S. Just noticed you drive a FORD, explains alot.
speaking of stereotypes.....
Post by: PhatIrishBastard on March 16, 2006, 10:34:00 AM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Mar 15 2006, 05:59 PM)
speaking of stereotypes.....
I believe Ford does manufacture the Thunderbird if I am not mistaken. It is an american model. The vast majority of American vehicles depreciate at a vastly higher rate than foriegn counterparts.
P.S. If you havent noticed General Motors is on the verge of economic collapse. Because they sell crappy cars (IMO)
P.S.S I also drive an american piece of shit. Had it for 6 mos and just wrote a check today for $1800 for a new tranny.
Maybe HES DA MEZ can enlighten us with one of his manifestos
Post by: lordvader129 on March 16, 2006, 10:43:00 AM
QUOTE(PhatIrishBastard @ Mar 16 2006, 11:41 AM)
I believe Ford does manufacture the Thunderbird if I am not mistaken. It is an american model. The vast majority of American vehicles depreciate at a vastly higher rate than foriegn counterparts.
P.S. If you havent noticed General Motors is on the verge of economic collapse. Because they sell crappy cars (IMO)
P.S.S I also drive an american piece of shit. Had it for 6 mos and just wrote a check today for $1800 for a new tranny.
Maybe HES DA MEZ can enlighten us with one of his manifestos
i was referringto the "explains alot" part, what exactly does it explain?
although i always seem to find something to agree with you folks on (for xmedia it was that dreamcast was the shit) and for you its that GM makes crappy cars....thast why i drive a ford, lol
as for depreciation, it wasnt really a factor in my decision to buy a thunderbird, i like the car, i like the way it drives, handles, looks, etc, and if that "explains" anything about me, i would enjoy hearing it
Post by: throwingks on March 16, 2006, 10:59:00 AM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Mar 16 2006, 10:50 AM)
... and if that "explains" anything about me, i would enjoy hearing it
You use Evian skin cream, and sometimes you wear L'Air du Temps, but not today. After your father's murder, you were orphaned. You were ten years old. You went to live with cousins on a sheep and horse ranch in Montana. And...? You still wake up sometimes, don't you? You wake up in the dark and hear the screaming of the lambs.
Post by: lordvader129 on March 16, 2006, 11:47:00 AM
QUOTE(throwingks @ Mar 16 2006, 12:06 PM)
You use Evian skin cream, and sometimes you wear L'Air du Temps, but not today. After your father's murder, you were orphaned. You were ten years old. You went to live with cousins on a sheep and horse ranch in Montana. And...? You still wake up sometimes, don't you? You wake up in the dark and hear the screaming of the lambs.
well....i do wake up sometimes....maybe theres something to this after all
Post by: PhatIrishBastard on March 17, 2006, 12:22:00 PM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Mar 16 2006, 12:50 PM)
i was referringto the "explains alot" part, what exactly does it explain?
It refers to the fact that a pair of $5K tires probabaly cost more than most of the 90s model american vehicles.
P.S.
GM reports $ 10 B in lossess........
Post by: lordvader129 on March 17, 2006, 01:00:00 PM
QUOTE(PhatIrishBastard @ Mar 17 2006, 01:29 PM)
It refers to the fact that a pair of $5K tires probabaly cost more than most of the 90s model american vehicles.
P.S.
GM reports $ 10 B in lossess........
ah, for once you actually make a bit of sense
BTW, ford reported 1.6b in losses last year (i dont know if thats for all ford companies or just ford itself) i wonder what daimler chrysler reported
Post by: PhatIrishBastard on March 17, 2006, 01:18:00 PM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Mar 17 2006, 03:07 PM)
ah, for once you actually make a bit of sense
BTW, ford reported 1.6b in losses last year (i dont know if thats for all ford companies or just ford itself) i wonder what daimler chrysler reported
No, it just took you a couple of posts to pick it up.
Or good buddy X(media) might be in the news. Heard through the grapevine his group was involved in some big action near Iraq borders. Waiting to hear back from one of his relatives in Kuwait.
Post by: C o s m o on March 20, 2006, 11:40:00 AM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Mar 17 2006, 02:07 PM)
BTW, ford reported 1.6b in losses last year (i dont know if thats for all ford companies or just ford itself) i wonder what daimler chrysler reported
FORD MOTOR CREDIT netted 2billion in profit in 2005.
Post by: lordvader129 on March 20, 2006, 03:44:00 PM
QUOTE(C o s m o @ Mar 20 2006, 12:47 PM)
hmm, they reported 3.5 billion in 04, so maybe thats where the claim of loss came from
Post by: C o s m o on March 22, 2006, 11:38:00 AM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Mar 20 2006, 04:51 PM)
hmm, they reported 3.5 billion in 04, so maybe thats where the claim of loss came from
What I heard in a story on NPR was that Ford lost money in manufacturing and selling automobiles, but made money on the credit side.