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Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on September 05, 2005, 02:14:00 AM

My stepbrother just recently returned from Iraq, and we got to discussing politics of the war and assorted B.S.

First, I asked him about Mrs Jessica Lynch. He smiled, She is the subject of a longstanding joke it would appear. Many reservist dont understand the fascination with her story. On all accounts she threw down her weapon and began to cry, and
ask for her mother.

I had recently, returned home from working with a company that benifited quite
substatially from the Iraqi War. He states " Man I wish I could have got on that Bechtel gravy train"

This made me wonder why not privatize the entire war. Private security makes
in excess of $ 100.00 an hour doing same job as U.S. Army often standing beside
them. Yet army makes only a fraction of that $1000 per month.

Lastly, "Support the Troops" you know how you really support troops no matter your stance on the war. Call your respective Congressman and ask he/she:

1) Increase military pay and benefits
2) Better support mechanisms for military families(tuition medical)
3) V.A. hospitals systems need to be reorganized revamped they
dont work.

I come from a military family who has fought in every war this nation has
fought. I am not a Collin Powell nor am I an Oliver North. But it irritates me that
those who sleep at night cozy in there bed while men and women stand guard
over them. Yet men can rise to the station of commander in chief of the nation
and commit the greatest dishonor to those men and women.

I have been shot at and it is no fun it aint nothing like no video game and for darn sure there is no infinite health.

Not very long ago my stepmother was front page on papers when her son returned from Iraq after a year a week before the Fallujah uprisings.

" PRIDE GOETH BEFORE DESTRUCTION "

Remember this when you speak the name of those who have voluntered and sacrificed, take a long look in the mirror and ask yourself can you say the same.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Heet on September 05, 2005, 02:34:00 AM

You got one thing right for once! Yes we should pay them more instead of handing out taxpayers dollars to a bunch of people that depend on the government and refuse to work. I totally agree. I didnt know what they were paid until myself and three brothers went to sign up. I have athesma and they wouldnt take me, but they took the both of them and all I can say is they are lucky they have kids. They get paid more for it but if your single and have no kids, forget it. Although I guess 1400$ a month for a single guy isnt too bad, that is if you have no degree. Your not going to make much more than that anyways. People that have a desire to get a degree usually dont join from what I see. Wow what a post. See now Im confused. All that youve said before and now you say this? Hell yes support the troops. I supported the troops even if I didnt agree with Clintons endeavors. It wasnt his ass on the line same as it isnt W's. I think we should be having telethons for them and throwing cash at them instead of a bunch of worthless non-working able bodied people who cant get the fuck out of dodge when they are told to and warned. If you havent a way to take care of yourself by 25 (at the very least) then you are pathetic. Both of my brothers knew what they were signing up for as well as I and both have been in Iraq. They said all of the liberals who wouldnt fight if their mother was being kicked in the shins really decreased morale for a while. They wondered "who the fuck are we fighting for?" But eventually they saw through all of the BS as soon as they realized what was over there blowing up little kids in schools. Nice post. Didnt think you had it in you.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on September 05, 2005, 03:05:00 AM

War without end

I often wonder what is the price of peace.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Heet on September 05, 2005, 03:11:00 AM

What is the price for peace? Thats easy. Life. Same as all of the guys who died exterminating hitlers forces. Although nobody really argues against that. Saddam killed, or to be more precise, gassed tons of people and shot people in the head just to sleep with their wives and paid thugs to carry attacks on countries unjustified. Milosevic did much of the same. But I never hear of a liberal calling Clinton a war monger. Amusing as usual.

Peace aint free. Well all except for the people who move to Canada. There its free. No brains, no headaches.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: blagmaster on September 05, 2005, 08:26:00 AM

Life is not the price of peace, when did takin lives bring peace?

War->killing->more killing->more killing-> etc.

It's just about 2(or more) big guys that dont agree, BAM...War.

QUOTE

Verse 4

And now, a word from the president!
Damn it feels good to be a gangsta
Gettin voted into the white house
Everything lookin good to the people of the world
But the mafia family is my boss
So every now and then I owe a favor gettin down
Like lettin a big drug shipment through
And send em to the poor community
So we can bust you know who
So voters of the world keep supportin me
And I promise to take you very far
Other leaders better not upset me
Or Ill send a million troops to die at war
To all you republicans, that helped me win
I sincerely like to thank you
Cuz now I got the world swingin from my nuts
And damn it feels good to be a gangsta

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: BILLS on September 05, 2005, 09:06:00 AM

QUOTE(xmedia2004 @ Sep 5 2005, 06:16 AM)

War without end

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Heet on September 05, 2005, 09:50:00 AM

"Only america believes in peace through war." Ah, Ive realized your educational level. So it was america only that fought the nazi's? I question why we ever protected so many countries now. They raised a bunch of idiots who will never realize who defended them. Go read the list of the countries that made up the Alies. Come back and tell me what countries have fought in the war against terror. Japan, yep. UK, yep. Austrailia, yep. Should I go on? No, because you will just come back with "Bush is a peice of shit", thats all you people can say. Like I said, no brains, no headaches.

So when you guys are saying peace, are you saying a utopia forever? Because if thats your definition then let me clue you in on something. That is a dream and will never happen. You can go years and years without war, as we did, and some crazy muslim will bomb you. Happened to the U.S., happened to Britain, happened to Italy, and it happened in Spain, to name just some of them. So if your talking about everlasting peace, your believing in something that isnt real. As long as there are extremists that wish your country harm, you have to defend it. Plain and simple.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: BILLS on September 05, 2005, 10:25:00 AM

QUOTE(Heet @ Sep 5 2005, 01:01 PM)

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Heet on September 05, 2005, 10:42:00 AM

You didnt read what I said. 60 other countries are also involved directly in fighting this war. Explain that to me. Your saying america has no reason to but the others do? LOOOOOOL

"who knows what they have up their sleeves"

Yes it is all a conspiracy. To you guys (liberals) everything is. God is a conspiracy. America is a conspiracy. People who help people MUST have some hidden agenda, thus, that is a conspiracy. The media as a whole is a conspiracy. Science is a conspiracy. People who fight for their countries must have some hidden reason other than a feeling of nationalism and protecting their families, thats a conspiracy. Because and you and all of you liberals on this board have said it best, "who knows what they have up their sleeves". But people with their sleeves rolled up doing something about it? They sir, are real magicians that mystify you because you cant understand what its worth to fight for something. Go and run to Canada and take cover with your friends. They will protect you and give you socialized medicine to boot!

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Heet on September 05, 2005, 10:58:00 AM

Latin for "if you want peace, prepare for war" and that was not an american who proclaimed that. Thats amazing isnt it. Unfortunately thats reality and you people dont recognize that even if its hitting you between the eyes. Thats the worlds reality. Not the US governments LOL.

"Verse 4

And now, a word from the president!
Damn it feels good to be a gangsta
Gettin voted into the white house
Everything lookin good to the people of the world
But the mafia family is my boss
So every now and then I owe a favor gettin down
Like lettin a big drug shipment through
And send em to the poor community
So we can bust you know who
So voters of the world keep supportin me
And I promise to take you very far
Other leaders better not upset me
Or Ill send a million troops to die at war
To all you republicans, that helped me win
I sincerely like to thank you
Cuz now I got the world swingin from my nuts
And damn it feels good to be a gangsta"

And now im getting quotes from the geto boys. Ah yes those philosophical geniuses. At least now I know where you guys are getting your information. No wonder you are so disarmed.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: BILLS on September 05, 2005, 11:31:00 AM

QUOTE(Heet @ Sep 5 2005, 01:53 PM)

You didnt read what I said. 60 other countries are also involved directly in fighting this war. Explain that to me. Your saying america has no reason to but the others do? LOOOOOOL

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Heet on September 05, 2005, 11:49:00 AM

Well at least you admit that you think the institution of government is a conspiracy, most liberals wont admit that. People that dont understand the way things work are most often afraid of them. Kind of like if you flashed fire in front of a dog. And where do I stand? Have you been reading the thread? I think its quite obvious. Just collect everything in your head that you believe in, and then think of the opposite. Thats what I believe in.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: pegasys on September 05, 2005, 11:54:00 AM

Edit: More on topic, I think that soldiers should be the highest paid profession in the country. And yes I would gladly pay more taxes if it would benifit our troops. Not Bush and his oil tycoon buddies.

War and revolution are always constants in this world. Peace can never "truely" be achieved, unless the world is converted into a "1984" (the book) enviornment, but that wasn't really peace was it. All I want is for our leaders to choose our battles wisely and fight them properly. Defend our nation, policeing the world does not work, unless all countries are part of a single nation (won't and shouldn't happen). It almost worked for the Romans, but then again they accepted the peoples they conqured cultures. They didn't shove "McDonnalds" down their conqured countries throats. I think that our culture destroying way of "liberating" the "savages", and trying to Americanize them is what spawns terrorism. It is not souly Bush's fault. It is just that Bush represents that American attitude toward any different culture that so many people hate (Including myself). I love America, just not the 50% of them who voted for Bush and therefore cemented their American arrogence.

I'm not sying that we brought the terrorist attacks uppon our selfs, but we did and still do contribute towards the reason for it. The only way to stop terrorism is either to accept our diferences or to completely wipe out any opposition to the way America works. Bush has chosen a convoluted middle ground that will cost countless americans their lives in the future.

Don't hate Bush, pity (and maybe hate) those who voted for him an can't se passed him and his Neocon's bullshit.

On a side note I recieved one tax rebate of $600 dollars. That dosn't really help much does it. All that does is get votes from short sighted people who would rather get some quick (insignifigant) cash, than say have a president who could mannage the economy and not pluge the country into a HUGE deficit.
/rant.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Heet on September 05, 2005, 12:15:00 PM

Just wanted to say this because I know what you meant by "what do you believe heet". What you and others are thinking is who is this loud mouthed, arrogant guy who is purposefully trying to offend people? Where the hell did he come from and why is he filling this forum up with posts. Well it started the other day when I saw that the crazy left had control of these boards and that the truth was being muddied on every level. Do you know how to offend a liberal? You tell the truth. Thats all. You tell the truth. What I dont get is if you really think Bush is such a liar and the whole government is a sham then why dont you embrace him? You guys embraced Bill Clinton for 8 years and that guy lied his ass off and admitted it. You guys liked him so much that at the end of his term, you rallied to see if you could change the term limits of the presidency. You liked the fact that he was a great storyteller that you tagged him "the comeback kid", the guy could tell a lie and comback everytime! Amazing! Then you disgraced blacks by calling him "the first black president". If I was a black person I would have fought so hard against that. He would lie about everything and you flocked to him like little girls at a Ricky Martin concert. So why the change? That is if you really believe Bush is such a liar. And thats why im here. And im making this forum my home until every socialist falls out of his chair just like Bluedeath did after I dismantled him. He's so bewildered he hasnt found the chair to post since. So get comfortable people and be prepared to be offended by your worst enemy. The truth.

"I'm not sying that we brought the terrorist attacks uppon our selfs, but we did and still do contribute towards the reason for it."

IF thats not the biggest contradiction then what the hell is?

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Capon-E on September 05, 2005, 12:20:00 PM

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: pegasys on September 05, 2005, 01:22:00 PM

"We" didn't do anything that warented the taking of civillian lives, but our intrussion into other countries and our arrogent foreign policy are some of the reasons why terrorists target us. They don't attack us just for the sake of terror. They dissagree with our policies and our culture just as "we" disagree with theirs. In their eyes we are the "evil dooers" and vice-versa. We by no means deserved to be attacked, but we gave them a reason to attack us (regardeless of how wrong that reason was to warrent an attack of such magnitude).
The way I see it is to either try to stop giving "them" reasons to attack us or completely obliterate them (which is difficult because that involves genocide which is terribly wrong). What I said is not contradictory, it meerly takes into account different points of view.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on September 05, 2005, 03:14:00 PM

The fact of the matter is that both George Bushs have heavy Saudi ties.

Ronald Reagan and Bush Sr started the Taliban and are killing Americans with
the same guns we sold them 15 years ago.

All this BS is about greed, not freedom, not democracy.

Its not any mystery why Bush just awarded his cronies with the whopping
tax breaks.

I have come to understand from my travels abroad that Americans are just
f*ing dumb. No beating around the Bush.

We elect president the guy who skipped out on war over guy that served with
honor.

Why didn't we invade England when they were starving out the Irish and killing
them off like Saddam.

Why didn't we invade England when they were starving, torturing and infecting S.
Africans with Aids.

N. Korea has no vast energy resources but have nuclear weapons and ballistic missile to carry them, yet Iraq is an imminent threat.

You can email the Pakistani consulate with a paypal recieot and buy Uranium enrichment technology, yet Iraq is an imminent threat.

Iran is enriching Uranium and producing plutonium in its nuclear reactors,
yet Iraq is an imminent threat.

China is on the verge of invading Tawain and Bush administration is begging
the Tawian government not to seek democratic elections, yet Iraq is an imminent threat.

You be the judge.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: BILLS on September 05, 2005, 03:38:00 PM

QUOTE(Heet @ Sep 5 2005, 03:00 PM)

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Heet on September 05, 2005, 04:00:00 PM

Oh why oh why cant we save everyone *sounds of crying in the background with soft violin music* why did Bush give all the rich who pay taxes tax cuts and not the poorer americans who dont *sniff sniff* oh why do we pinpoint some countries that are in our interests and not attack others that arent *sniffle* He hates the poor, he hates the blacks *blowing nose* He is satan, he is the antiChrist, he is Adolf Hitler, but the stupid republicans and all of the people that pretend to care for the world and their country just cant see it *grabs another kleenex* why cant W save the whales and the rainforests, why does he want to drill in alaska and kill the precious little deer and bunnies even though if you threw a dime into a 12X12 bedroom that would represent the area taken up by the drilling *looks and clutches picture of his mother* why oh why does this bastard want to steal the middle easts oil even though its impossible to do it, why oh why cant we get another lying cheating president in the office, a president who cheats on not only his country but then his wife and daughter over, and over again *blows nose again and wipes the snot from his chin* why cant he prevent hurricanes and then force poor people to leave their homes, why God why (oh wait Im liberal and dont believe in God), why oh why cant people stop using aerosol hairspray, why cant cows stop farting releasing methane that depletes the ozone layer even though scientists for years have proven that the earth goes through climate change every couple hundred years or so *sniff sniff* why cant we listen to the other countries that dont live here that know more than us about our own country, why cant we quit sending more aid to countries than any other country in the world, why cant we take out every single countries dictator if we can take out one or two of the world *uncontrollable sobbing* why do the republicans think that people should fend for their own families and cease to depend on the government to sustain life, why do they still oppress them and keep them poor even though the democrats ideas of giving them 400$ checks every month really does *accidental squirt of diarheea because you sneezed so hard* why cant we just be like the canadians and offer socialized medicine, why cant we be just like the english and not carry guns even though it would mean that only the criminals would then have them and not honest citizens who would not use them to hold up conveinience stores and mug people*goes to wipe ass and nose once again* why oh why couldnt bill and hillary save the snow owl, why do we kill them with such impunity, why do we still allow Mcdonalds to sell hamburgers when we know that meat is murder while we also know that there are a billion served, a billion served for Christ's sake, why cant there be no weapons in the world, why cant my dreams of every Christian, Muslim, and Jew sitting around a giant campfire strumming guitars and singing koombya my lord, why why why why why!!!! *breaks out into huge crying fit and pummles fists on the floor like a small child having a tantrum* its just not fair, its just not fair, my mom really did tell me there is a santa claus, I did believe in the easter bunny, I heard of a place called utopia, but its not real, its not there, George Bush blew it up to get oil, *Bwahahaha bwahahahahhahaha*

This is what I hear from you guys and what I see on the bumper stickers of cars all around town. Get your heads out of your asses. If you dont like it, there is a land for you. They will take you with open arms and listen to the crying. Its called Canada. If you really disagree that much with what your country has become, then fix it. There are these people as statecowboy said it best.

blamers/complainers doers/believers

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: heinrich on September 05, 2005, 04:57:00 PM

QUOTE(Heet @ Sep 5 2005, 08:11 PM)

This is what I hear from you guys and what I see on the bumper stickers of cars all around town. Get your heads out of your asses. If you dont like it, there is a land for you. They will take you with open arms and listen to the crying. Its called Canada. If you really disagree that much with what your country has become, then fix it. There are these people as statecowboy said it best.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: BILLS on September 05, 2005, 04:58:00 PM

QUOTE(Heet @ Sep 5 2005, 07:11 PM)

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Heet on September 05, 2005, 05:18:00 PM

Everything that you just said is reflected in the crying post. And if you dont know what a liberal is and that you are one evident by what you believe, dont blame me for it. Go look up the liberal cause and then go look in the mirror. Go find out why people (especially black people) remain poor. It has to do with dependence on government to sustain life (a check a month) for those that refuse to work. It has to do with people having 5-8 kids and no way to pay for them. It has to do with black leaders and democrat white leaders who tell them that that is ok. Alright my fingers are starting to hurt. But seriously, go find out where you stand politically. Who are you voting for?

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: BILLS on September 05, 2005, 05:40:00 PM

QUOTE(Heet @ Sep 5 2005, 08:29 PM)

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Heet on September 05, 2005, 05:49:00 PM

"well that means you are a pretty straight forward person. YOu think everything has a reaosn and explanation. You bleieve the president and the government are ultimately in it for teh best interest of the people. And you dont bleieve in aliens i take ti

Thast teh opposite of me.

Im a deep complex person. I think some things cant be explained and shouldnt be explored by humans. I beleive the government DOES very well in deed have its own agenda. And i beleive in aliens. "

That is a quote by you. You go from "best interest of the people", "think everything has a reason and explanation", to "and you dont believe in aliens i take ti"

Then you go "im a deep complex person", "i think some things cant be explained and shouldnt be explored by humans", "and i believe in aliens".

We werent discussing space exploration or aliens. No offense dude, but I rest my case.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: BILLS on September 05, 2005, 06:47:00 PM

QUOTE(Spency234 @ Sep 5 2005, 09:19 PM)

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Heet on September 05, 2005, 06:52:00 PM

spency234, please elaborate what is wrong with what you quoted (in reference to never taking an english class). I know what it is, but I want you to say it, thanks.

BILLS, who in the US are you reffering to that makes locking doors needed? Who uses the guns? Why is our crime rate higher? You posed the questions, now give me the answers. Is it because hard working people are going around robbing people?

"And I understand aliens arent part of this thread...
"We werent discussing space exploration or aliens. No offense dude, but I rest my case."
thats a cheap shot in debate, veering off topic to call a persons weaknesses, a person with low self esteem would look at that and give up..im not one of those kinds of people though "

Dont get mad at me because I stayed on topic and you didnt. Its one of the reasons that its difficult to have a constructive conversation with liberals. You will be talking about urban sprawl and they will start talking about sea turtles. What if I did the same but instead of aliens I said say, bigfoot?

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: BILLS on September 05, 2005, 07:01:00 PM

QUOTE(Heet @ Sep 5 2005, 10:03 PM)

spency234, please elaborate what is wrong with what you quoted (in reference to never taking an english class). I know what it is, but I want you to say it, thanks.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: BoNg420 on September 05, 2005, 07:06:00 PM

all i got to say is this
Fuck war. Waste of money.
I will supoport the troops if they assasinate Bush and all his deciples.
he can waste all this money on Iraq and let our gas prices soar.
he cant help the ones at home. maybe if there was oil in new orleans bsuh would be down there.
as they say Money is the root of all evil.. Bush is money hungry = evil bush

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: BILLS on September 05, 2005, 07:15:00 PM

QUOTE(BoNg420 @ Sep 5 2005, 10:17 PM)

all i got to say is this

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Heet on September 05, 2005, 07:17:00 PM

You guys are just proving my point with every post.

And this is what I just heard you say this bong420

Oh why oh why cant we save everyone *sounds of crying in the background with soft violin music* why did Bush give all the rich who pay taxes tax cuts and not the poorer americans who dont *sniff sniff* oh why do we pinpoint some countries that are in our interests and not attack others that arent *sniffle* He hates the poor, he hates the blacks *blowing nose* He is satan, he is the antiChrist, he is Adolf Hitler, but the stupid republicans and all of the people that pretend to care for the world and their country just cant see it *grabs another kleenex* why cant W save the whales and the rainforests, why does he want to drill in alaska and kill the precious little deer and bunnies even though if you threw a dime into a 12X12 bedroom that would represent the area taken up by the drilling *looks and clutches picture of his mother* why oh why does this bastard want to steal the middle easts oil even though its impossible to do it, why oh why cant we get another lying cheating president in the office, a president who cheats on not only his country but then his wife and daughter over, and over again *blows nose again and wipes the snot from his chin* why cant he prevent hurricanes and then force poor people to leave their homes, why God why (oh wait Im liberal and dont believe in God), why oh why cant people stop using aerosol hairspray, why cant cows stop farting releasing methane that depletes the ozone layer even though scientists for years have proven that the earth goes through climate change every couple hundred years or so *sniff sniff* why cant we listen to the other countries that dont live here that know more than us about our own country, why cant we quit sending more aid to countries than any other country in the world, why cant we take out every single countries dictator if we can take out one or two of the world *uncontrollable sobbing* why do the republicans think that people should fend for their own families and cease to depend on the government to sustain life, why do they still oppress them and keep them poor even though the democrats ideas of giving them 400$ checks every month really does *accidental squirt of diarheea because you sneezed so hard* why cant we just be like the canadians and offer socialized medicine, why cant we be just like the english and not carry guns even though it would mean that only the criminals would then have them and not honest citizens who would not use them to hold up conveinience stores and mug people*goes to wipe ass and nose once again* why oh why couldnt bill and hillary save the snow owl, why do we kill them with such impunity, why do we still allow Mcdonalds to sell hamburgers when we know that meat is murder while we also know that there are a billion served, a billion served for Christ's sake, why cant there be no weapons in the world, why cant my dreams of every Christian, Muslim, and Jew sitting around a giant campfire strumming guitars and singing koombya my lord, why why why why why!!!! *breaks out into huge crying fit and pummles fists on the floor like a small child having a tantrum* its just not fair, its just not fair, my mom really did tell me there is a santa claus, I did believe in the easter bunny, I heard of a place called utopia, but its not real, its not there, George Bush blew it up to get oil, *Bwahahaha bwahahahahhahaha*
This is what I hear from you guys and what I see on the bumper stickers of cars all around town. Get your heads out of your asses. If you dont like it, there is a land for you. They will take you with open arms and listen to the crying. Its called Canada. If you really disagree that much with what your country has become, then fix it. There are these people as statecowboy said it best.
blamers/complainers doers/believers

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: BILLS on September 05, 2005, 07:34:00 PM

QUOTE(Heet @ Sep 5 2005, 10:28 PM)

You guys are just proving my point with every post.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Heet on September 05, 2005, 07:58:00 PM

Bong420 just said this too. Still agree with him?

i personally do not care for black girls or personally black people in general (bad past experience) I myself work in retail at a JC Penney. I myself see all kinds of races of people, indian, asian, hispanic, etc. After seeing these people everyday it really makes you see why people are racist and not like other races. I mean they are cheap, always try to barter. This is America, we dont trade goats for a shirt. You pay what it says, enough fucking said. Also they are rude. You will be helping other customers/people with something and you are really busy, instead of waiting in line, they cut in front of everyone and start talking to you and asking questions. I usually ignore them since i cant put them in their place and bitch at them. Also minorities tend to be thiefs more often then others. The other thing is some of them this is mostly regarding indians/arabics they dont shower or wash properly or use deodorant or whatever and dont smell to hot(worse in summer or hot weather) Its offensive. In this country we have water and people should be able to shower on a daily basis. I really dont consider myself completely racist just some of this stuff gets on my nerves and I can say I hate certain people. Like this happens all the time, a guy and his wife will be shopping and they are watching the register screen for everything oh this is 50% off or oh this price is wrong. They want everything so fucking cheap like we owe it to him or he should get it next to free. Then I give him a total and he pulls out a wad of 100's 50's 20's etc.. It s like WTF you have all this money and are worried about prices, well maybe thats why he has so much money because he is a fucking tightwad. It also makes me mad about college loans, grants, scholarships etc. I cant get any cause I'm white, but if I was black or mexican I could get money. The whole worlds racist, most people won't admit to it. White people hate like everyone, black people hate white people, arabic people hate white and black people, etc etc. I dont think it will ever change. There is always someone to piss you off. now back to topic, I really dont like how black chicks looks, personally I dont think a black chick is even attractive unless she is partially white. I like some asian chicks and latin chicks and of course white chicks. Everyone has their preference. Their is just issues with other races like culture, religion and such, I might like some chick but I might not like her family. There is language/religion barriers that might set you apart.

I doubt it. I agree with some of it though, I have to admit. And remember he did say hate, that I dont agree with, but I'll agree on one thing, he's a liberal.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: BILLS on September 05, 2005, 08:14:00 PM

QUOTE(Heet @ Sep 5 2005, 11:09 PM)

Bong420 just said this too. Still agree with him?

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: BoNg420 on September 05, 2005, 08:35:00 PM

you can say you think i'm whatever, but I'm just stating my opinion and what I think. i dont know why you made that nonsense up like I am crying bout shit. I personally hate what our country has become. I dont think we should allow other countries to come here. We are becoming to overcrowded and we dont need any more people here. They say land of the Free, i think thats false advertising. this will probably piss you off
9/11 was a consipracy!
there is much money to be made in war...

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: BILLS on September 05, 2005, 08:45:00 PM

QUOTE(BoNg420 @ Sep 5 2005, 11:46 PM)

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: chorizo1 on September 05, 2005, 08:47:00 PM

QUOTE(BoNg420 @ Sep 6 2005, 04:46 AM)

I dont think we should allow other countries to come here.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: BoNg420 on September 05, 2005, 08:57:00 PM

QUOTE(chorizo1 @ Sep 5 2005, 10:58 PM)

Me neither, where are we gonna put all that land?

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on September 05, 2005, 09:01:00 PM

QUOTE(Heet @ Sep 6 2005, 04:09 AM)

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i personally do not care for black girls or personally black people in general (bad past experience)

What happened get locked up and some " Afro American put a penis in you backside

You kind of sound like that Abortion clinic bomber, on and on ranting about white man this white man that, stereotype, stereotype black man this mexican that
and then you go out and kill a bunch of people mostly white to prove how bad
whoever is. Makes a lot of f*ing sense.

You Americans not even .0001 % of the globe but you know everything and everyone.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: MysteryRidah on September 05, 2005, 09:08:00 PM

War is for the weak.

Moving on to something righteous.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: BoNg420 on September 05, 2005, 09:17:00 PM

QUOTE(MysteryRidah @ Sep 5 2005, 11:19 PM)

War is for the weak.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on September 05, 2005, 09:44:00 PM

OMG " I DONT KNOW "

I would be ashamed to associate my username with the ignorance you spouted.

The town I live in 60% of the jail population is young, white and female
because of the Meth epidemic and dont choose to judge these people
nor do I choose to draw some sort of divine decree from that other
then Meth abuse is a horrible.

But my mind is big enough to understand that my little town is not the entire
world and for me to make judgemnet on any group based upon my limited
experience would be somewhat " stu peed"

Ever hear of Pahrump, Nv this is a town 20 mile from Vegas with the legal
brothels, upon my visit to this town I was suprised to see people who looked
like they were straight out of the Dark Ages living in wooden caves, no teeth
stinking. You should visit it if you get the chance to see NV.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: BoNg420 on September 05, 2005, 09:57:00 PM

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I would be ashamed to associate my username with the ignorance you spouted.

why would I really give a damn. It's the internet. Do I care what people think about me? Not really. I'm stating what I see and my beliefs. If im considered ignorant, so is a large majority of the world. I dont worry about what people think of me, most people do concern themselves with this pity matter, its called low self esteem. Oh no some guy is talking shit to me over the internet I'm going to go cry boo hoo hoo.

whatever dude, Bush should do things right and turn the sand in that desert to glass, blow all those mother fuckers up, then we would have less things to worry about. Is that ignorant enough for you?

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The town I live in 60% of the jail population is young, white and female
because of the Meth epidemic and dont choose to judge these people
nor do I choose to draw some sort of divine decree from that other
then Meth abuse is a horrible.

Also did you know most of the jail population for our whole country is black?

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Heet on September 05, 2005, 10:07:00 PM

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on September 05, 2005, 10:23:00 PM

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Also did you know most of the jail population for our whole country is
black?

1 in 6 Americans are either in prison our recently out of prison/parole probation.

So called African Americans are 11 % of US population (250 million).

12% of US pop = around 27 million

1 in 6 Americans = 42 million

If 100% of " blacks " were incarcerated to some degree your bullshit
still would not fly.

When all else fails resort to sterotype, misinformation and ignorance.

This is the same BS view the Olympic bomber, Manson, McVeigh, Trench Coat
Mafia and a cast of others subscribed not rooted in any form of REALITY
or fact just there puny minds.

P.S. For someone who doesn't like Negroes you sure spend a lot of time thinking
about them.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Heet on September 06, 2005, 02:43:00 AM

Well I use paragraphs, but if it looks better to space them more I guess I can do that.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: BILLS on September 06, 2005, 09:18:00 AM

QUOTE(Heet @ Sep 6 2005, 01:18 AM)

Oh boy. Liberals fighting about who is more racist and the topic of judging people

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on September 16, 2005, 09:47:00 PM

Bloody week in Iraq, death toll in 200 range. All I see is all those people who said it would be better, safer, place. I wish I could wiggle my nose and send their children over there.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: BILLS on September 17, 2005, 01:07:00 PM

QUOTE(xmedia2004 @ Sep 17 2005, 12:58 AM)

Bloody week in Iraq, death toll in 200 range. All I see is all those people who said it would be better, safer, place. I wish I could wiggle my nose and send their children over there.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on September 17, 2005, 01:36:00 PM

QUOTE(BILLS @ Sep 17 2005, 09:18 PM)

amen.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: BILLS on September 17, 2005, 05:16:00 PM

QUOTE(xmedia2004 @ Sep 17 2005, 04:47 PM)

Now Bills you know I have to play the member formerly known as HEET

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on September 17, 2005, 07:03:00 PM

QUOTE(BILLS @ Sep 18 2005, 01:27 AM)

Well i know HEET doesnt agree with me, and i have no idea what side you are on but i feel i maybe be somewher in the middle or far left

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: BILLS on September 17, 2005, 08:06:00 PM

QUOTE(xmedia2004 @ Sep 17 2005, 10:14 PM)

I just think there is more to life than right or left republican or democrat. I

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on September 17, 2005, 08:33:00 PM

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Well, what do you dislike more then i asked him. A man who throws away tags after serving in something he doesnt bleieve in, or a man that has his father right a letter becasue he is a coward, and wont even serve in the first place? Daddy helped bush out a little bit in the past.

Stop reading my mind, I have had the same conversation with a variety of people.
Two uncles of mine went to Vietnam, my father didn't go only because he was in
reserves in college. One Unlce went to Korea, cousin in Bosnia, Iraq, Haiti.
I served during Iraq Operation and Bosnia, but us Navy guys really dont do sh*t.

But, I will not let my kids join the military. A recruiter that say my resume on monster called me and I told him same thing. Bush didnt go and wouldnt send his seed so damned if any of mine go.

All politicains are liars dem or repub. But I truly believe we are down the path of destruction. Bush's cowboy BS has set certain events in motion, which will probably
end with the detonation of a nuclear device of some sorts in the very near future.

I am not a fan of Kerry but coming from a family of privelage and signing up I can truly respect that, (JFK'ish) <- not a word I made it up

Bush stands for everything opposing that last statement an almost New British ideology.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on September 21, 2005, 02:31:00 PM

1904

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 21, 2005, 02:36:00 PM

QUOTE(xmedia2004 @ Sep 18 2005, 04:44 AM)

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on September 21, 2005, 02:52:00 PM

QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 21 2005, 10:47 PM)

Yea, and when your kid's turn 18 they will do what they want whether you like it or not because they will be their own and you cannot stop them from joining the military.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on September 21, 2005, 02:55:00 PM

1907

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 21, 2005, 03:02:00 PM

QUOTE(xmedia2004 @ Sep 21 2005, 11:03 PM)

Actually I have a very good education, which permitted me to obtain a very good

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on September 21, 2005, 03:42:00 PM

QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 21 2005, 11:13 PM)

So your saying your children wont think on their own. Thats awesome, I cant wait to see how they turn out

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on September 23, 2005, 02:24:00 PM

Two more young boy lost thier lives for Bush and Cheney

1,909 Americans
96 Britons
13 Bulgarians
1 Dane
2 Dutch,
2 Estonians
1 Hungarian
26 Italians
1 Kazakh
1 Latvian
17 Poles
1 Salvadoran
3 Slovaks
11 Spaniards
2 Thai
18 Ukrainians

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on September 26, 2005, 06:36:00 PM

1914 Americans dead

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on September 29, 2005, 04:31:00 PM

1936 Americans dead

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on October 17, 2005, 08:44:00 PM

1,979 Americans troop dead in the war in Iraq as of October 17, 2005

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on October 20, 2005, 12:44:00 PM

QUOTE(dman7 @ Oct 19 2005, 01:45 AM)

To bad they missed

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on October 26, 2005, 07:50:00 AM

2000 American dead in Iraq

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: thewickedjester on October 26, 2005, 08:08:00 AM

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Two more young boy lost thier lives for Bush and Cheney

You know whats funny, all these young innocent boys signed up for the war. Irregardless of what Bush and Cheney did, they still went to the local recruiter and signed up to go to Iraq. I dont support Bush or Cheney, I think they are both very much the wrong choice for people to run the country but they didnt force these kids to go to war. You could argue that most of the people were in the Army before Bush started his crusade against Iraq and Afganistan, but the problem with that is THEY STILL SIGNED UP FOR IT. Irregardless of reason, if we go to war it has to be understood and accepted by the people that willingly signed up for it that its an inheret risk they will be killed. Its a tragedy whats happening not only in Iraq but also in this country, but you listing the number of people that die every day isnt really going to fix much now is it?

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on October 26, 2005, 09:10:00 AM

QUOTE(thewickedjester @ Oct 26 2005, 04:19 PM)

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: lordvader129 on October 26, 2005, 10:55:00 AM

too many people mistake the army reserve for a free ticket to college, its not, its the fucking army, thats why its called the ARMY reserve, anyone joining should know they can be called into active service at any time, thats the choice you make, i have no sympathy for reservists who now want out

the national guard is a different story, they shouldnt be deployed overseas, thats not their purpose, so i do have sympathy for guardsman in iraq

that being said there is no draft in the US, anyone in the armed forces is there because they chose to join up, they may have reasons other than wanting to go into combat, but the point is they joined the military, what did they expect to come out of it?

what about me and my family?
my great grandfather was in the army
my grandmother was in the NATO armed forces
my grandfather was in the army
my uncle was in the army
my father was in the army
i was rejected by the army due to a heart murmur, i tried to enlist 2 more times but they caught the condition each time
my gf was rejected by the navy for sleepwalking and a heart murmur

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on October 26, 2005, 10:29:00 PM

QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Oct 26 2005, 07:06 PM)

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: thewickedjester on October 27, 2005, 03:55:00 PM

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The fact of the matter is that the National Gaurd and reserve units have taken the larger brunts of fatalities, not the regular standing army. And since these kids went to military for varying reasons college etc and I once was in the position

You said it yourself... They went to the military. They werent drafted, they were required to join, they did it willingly. Even if it is for college, the point still stands that they signed up for it. And irregardless of the reasons for going to war, it has to be understood that thats the price you pay when the government pays for you to go to college.

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I feel there loss of life commanded by those that would not sacrifice there own childeren for freedom is at best hypocritical.

I agree entirely, I dont know if 'hypocritical' would be the best term to describe it, but it certainly isnt good that these elected officials wouldnt send their own children to war...

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So like you I will set on the sidelines and excercise my freedom of free speech and though, but unlike you, Bush or Chaney, Rice or Rumsfield, I have 2 NDM's. So I feel i do have the right.

P.S. Since you dont know what NDM is I will tell u National Defense Medal.

Then thank you, thank you for defending my country, my life, and my freedoms and basic rights. I appreciate it greaty, irregardless of how little you may think I show it. But this doesnt change my perception of what we are discussing.

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P.S.S. There is always the ignore button.

I was commenting more than anything else. I could care less if you list numbers everyday.

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too many people mistake the army reserve for a free ticket to college, its not, its the fucking army, thats why its called the ARMY reserve

My point exactly

QUOTE

Considering that the Army and Marine Corp have feel far short of recruiting goals the last consecutive years the draft may be paying us a visit in the near future.

I'll move to Canada. Dont get me wrong, I'll fight and die for my country any day of the week (and what the hell, the weekend to) as long as I support the war its for. And right now, I just dont.

Oh yeah, I'm to young to join anyways.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on October 27, 2005, 06:28:00 PM

QUOTE

Oh yeah, I'm to young to join anyways.

That thought did cross my mind.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on October 29, 2005, 07:54:00 AM

2,004 Americans dead, and for what?

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on October 29, 2005, 08:00:00 AM

2,004 Americans dead, and for what?

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: lordvader129 on October 29, 2005, 09:38:00 AM

QUOTE(xmedia2004 @ Oct 29 2005, 09:11 AM)

2,004 Americans dead, and for what?

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: puckSR on October 29, 2005, 10:56:00 AM

No Avarden, that is a fairly ignorant post

In any country there are two types of people. The intelligent ones, and the total fucking morons.

In Iraq, the total fucking morons think we should leave immediately. Ask any of the leaders over in Iraq and they will tell you that while they dont like us there, they know that some massive military force is necessary to keep the peace.

Also, WWII is a horrible example. Lets use a more recent, and much more relevant example. Vietnam. This war is just as bloody as Vietnam? I dont think so.

I dont support this war, dont get me wrong.

If xmedia says one more time..support the war in Iraq, then get your ass over there. I may just have to let a rant go
Fuck it..here goes

Xmedia, i support a lot of things.
I support law enforcement, but you dont see me putting on a badge
I support manufacturing of goods, but you dont see me on an assembly line
I support the ACLU, but you dont see my signing up to be a volunteer lawyer

Your mentalility is so flawed that it is laughable. You can support the war in Iraq, but not want to go fight over there. Perhaps your not capable of killing, perhaps you dont desire to live in a desert. Maybe your too out of shape...or maybe you have an ingrown toenail. It really doesnt matter.

Also, if you mention the whole "Hotel Rwanda" scenario one more time, im going to scream. Your pissed that we only took this action in the case of Iraq, and that we normally do not go to a country to liberate it from tyranny?
Are you suggesting that we should?
Or are you suggesting that we never should?

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: lordvader129 on October 29, 2005, 10:56:00 AM

QUOTE(Arvarden @ Oct 29 2005, 11:05 AM)

Sorry to point out the obvious but WW2 was a just war, Iraq on the other hand is a complete mess (war based on lies) with the majority of Iraqi's wanting an end to the foreign occupation.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: pug_ster on October 29, 2005, 11:18:00 AM

I don't think the amount of deaths should be compared to the vietnam war. If the Iraq war was fought at around 1970, the amount of US deaths would likely be at least 5 times as much because we don't have the technology at that time to stabilize a soldier once he/she is wounded.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on October 30, 2005, 01:37:00 AM

QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Oct 29 2005, 07:07 PM)

during WWII in the US all these same arguements used to describe iraq were used to describe that war

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: puckSR on October 30, 2005, 04:40:00 PM

enthusiast...let me explain

WWII was a war we entered into, it was a full-blown war before we joined

vietnam--apparently something attacked a ship off the coast of vietnam. Nothing happened to the ship, and no one can prove that anything was even fired at the ship....but we went to war after technically "nothing" happened. Basically we were just looking for an excuse

to be fair

Spanish-American war-we entered this war after the USS Maine exploded. It was supposedly caused by Spanish forces. In all truth, it was actually just an industrial accident. Still, we went in and fought.

Iraq--We attacked Iraq on the assumption that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. In a somewhat odd twist, the bad information may have been generated by Iraq. This is not abnormal, governments often exaggerate their military might, but it is different from the standpoint of comparative history in the sense that it was not a completely fabricated event...like the Tonkin Gulf incident. It may more closely resemble the spanish american war. Something happened, but an intelligence mistake was made as to the truth.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: lordvader129 on October 30, 2005, 05:17:00 PM

QUOTE(xmedia2004 @ Oct 30 2005, 03:48 AM)

id hate to see how you would have acted if you were one of those 2000.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on October 30, 2005, 06:04:00 PM

QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Oct 31 2005, 02:28 AM)

what is the value of a human life? was the american revolution worth the lives lost? was the civil war? was the moon landing worth the 3 apollo 1 astronauts?

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: MysteryRidah on November 01, 2005, 09:02:00 AM

War is for the weak, war is the devils work, and i dont support the troops, because i dont believe in war.

I am concern about whoever goes to iraq or anywhere, but again i dont support war, so i cant "support" what the the troops are doing.

Next........

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: lordvader129 on November 01, 2005, 09:17:00 AM

oppose the war, support the troops, they are people after all, arent christians supposed to love thy brothers? (im assuming your christian since you call war the devils work, despite the fact that the nation of isreal carried out several wars at the behest of god in the old testment)

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on November 01, 2005, 03:45:00 PM

I support the Troops and wish them they very best and a safe return. My prayers go out to all those who lost their lives fighting for "our" freedom and yes the War effects both Canadian's and American's at the same time. I don't support the war one bit having grown up in a military home and I lived over in Italy were my dad was a special forces officer. He was killed by a cilivan that was invloved in a domestic case. Long story short I never think we "humans" should resort to violence I have seen what it has done and it's not good. I wish all those over sea a very safe trip home and for peace in the middle east

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on November 08, 2005, 10:01:00 PM

2,056 Americans boys and girls died for the lies of a coward

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: PuMpKaN on November 09, 2005, 03:12:00 PM

Wow, please think of what would of happended if we dident go to iraq? I support the troops all the way but i cant go to iraq becuase i am 14. so xmedia, if you are so imbarassed of your country then get the fuck out of here we dont want pussy men who dont want to break a nail.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on November 09, 2005, 04:11:00 PM

QUOTE(PuMpKaN @ Nov 9 2005, 11:19 PM)

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Arvarden on November 10, 2005, 05:42:00 AM

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: lordvader129 on November 10, 2005, 10:01:00 AM

QUOTE(Arvarden @ Nov 10 2005, 05:49 AM)

What war are you going on about? Last time I checked Iraq was "liberated".

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: PuMpKaN on November 10, 2005, 03:28:00 PM

QUOTE(xmedia2004 @ Nov 9 2005, 06:18 PM)

Grow up, OK.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on November 10, 2005, 05:29:00 PM

QUOTE(PuMpKaN @ Nov 10 2005, 11:35 PM)

Listen to yourself, making fun of a 14 year old. im soo scared. Kid your a hippie if you dont like what were doing. Than GTFO of our country. Its sad that how old are you? 20+ and your crying about how were in iraq. I know why your making these gay threads crying about war, because your too scared to sign up so you oppose it and your too weak to also.Me being many years younger if i saw you in real life you would be smoking pot living in the shittyest house ever and id have to beat the shit out of you.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: puckSR on November 10, 2005, 06:37:00 PM

That was pretty childish, even for a 14 year old.

of course your comments were pretty childish too Xmedia

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on November 16, 2005, 02:43:00 PM

2,078 Americans dead.

Why?

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: PuMpKaN on November 16, 2005, 03:36:00 PM

QUOTE(xmedia2004 @ Nov 16 2005, 04:50 PM)

2,078 Americans dead.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on November 16, 2005, 03:58:00 PM

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WASHINGTON, DC - As President MORON's illegal, immoral invasion and occupation of Iraq continues, the toll, in lives of American soldiers, has now reached two thousand. While President MORON continues to recycle cold war and nine-one-one rhetoric (the only form of recycling he endorses), the facts on the ground do not bode well for our brave soldiers. At every turn, President MORON has promised that the next milestone would make everything better. He promised that we would find weapons of mass deception immediately upon invasion, economic payback through the sale of captured oil, candy and flowers after we "liberated" Baghdad, an instantaneous nationwide conversion after dismissing the entire Iraqi army (along with their weapons), a mission accomplished after "major combat operations" had ceased, an easy road after the "transfer of sovereignty," a new and peaceful nation after the "election," and complete peace and security after the "adoption" of a constitution. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, and... wrong! Yet, our armed forces slog on, attempting to obey conflicting if not downright impossible orders, and they are, very sadly, paying the ultimate price for President MORON's hubris. Two thousand is too many.

http://www.presidentmoron.com/

The only one with any real military experience "jumped ship"

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: PuMpKaN on November 16, 2005, 04:00:00 PM

im glad as hell idiots liike you will never be elected president. Just please imagine what john kerry would of done? cut him self and ran away?

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on November 16, 2005, 04:53:00 PM

Donald Fisher
Avon, Mass

Bush didnt deserve your sacrifice..

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Ween311 on November 16, 2005, 08:39:00 PM

Why just Bush? Do you think that he was the only person that voted to go to war with Iraq?

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on November 16, 2005, 09:45:00 PM

QUOTE(Ween311 @ Nov 17 2005, 04:46 AM)

Why just Bush? Do you think that he was the only person that voted to go to war with Iraq?

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Ween311 on November 17, 2005, 09:41:00 AM

1) Oh yeah, that's right. I forgot that Bush was also an intelligence agent and came up with the intelligence data that supported going to war with Iraq. He also worked as a British intelligence agent in his spare time because the British had the same type of intelligence data that we did.

2) Don't really know all the facts about this one. Did his unit actually get called for duty? I'm aware of all the controversy about his reporting for meetings and training and such, but I don't really remember about his unit getting called for duty. You could be right.

3) His choice. He won the election, he gets to decide who to nominate whether you like it or not. Also has nothing to do with the war in Iraq.

4) If he got into Yale because of his relatives, it's called nepotism, not affirmative action. If you think he's the only person who ever got into school because of who is parents were, then think again. Not saying it's right, but it happens.

5) He is such an idiot that he somehow fabricated all this fake intelligence that fooled every senator and congressman (except a couple) into believing that we should go to war with Iraq. If that's the case, then we really need to take a loot at all of our elected officials, since it is obviously so easy to dupe them, if a "f*ing idiot" can do it.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: pug_ster on November 17, 2005, 10:44:00 AM

QUOTE(Ween311 @ Nov 17 2005, 05:48 PM)

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Ween311 on November 17, 2005, 11:31:00 AM

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Pathetic excuse for a pathetic president. Those moronic 'christians' voted for some idiot who can't do his job in the white house so Dubya just 'bitch' at the democrats. You guys can bitch about how Bill Clinton all you want about Monica if you want, but at least he did his job as president.

Those weren't excuses. I was just wondering why xmedia only placed blame on the president, when in fact it was not just the president who wanted to go to war. Do you forget hearing all the senators and congressmen on TV and in the newspapers saying how outraged they were and how they would support the president and vote to go to war? I think there were only 4 people that voted against the war.

As for your other statements, nowhere did I "bitch" at any democrats or even make mention of anybodies political affiliations. I didn't say anything about Bill or Monica either. Where are you coming from with that?

And why does it have to be moronic Christians that voted for Bush. Are you trying to say that no intelligent Christians voted for Bush, or that all Christians are moronic, or that the only votes that Bush got came from Christians? Non-religious people or people from other faiths all voted for someone else?

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Ween311 on November 17, 2005, 12:11:00 PM

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"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.

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"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seing and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

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"There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

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"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force if necessary to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

QUOTE

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

QUOTE

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

And these are just a few. So, is it still just Bush who is to blame?

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: pug_ster on November 17, 2005, 12:42:00 PM

QUOTE(Ween311 @ Nov 17 2005, 07:38 PM)

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Arvarden on November 17, 2005, 12:52:00 PM

Is Bush to blame you ask?

A pharmacist must correctly dispense medication prescribed on a prescription. If the pharmacist makes a mistake he/she is held responsible and may lose there job and may be struck off. If an assistant wrongly prescribes medication from the prescription the pharmacist is held responsible and will lose there job.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Ween311 on November 17, 2005, 01:24:00 PM

QUOTE

Bush and his buddies in the white house misled everybody, including democrats, republicans, and Americans that Iraq has wmd. Simple as that.

This is my favorite excuse that I hear. This president who is supposedly so dumb, that he only got into college because of who his parents knew, was able to pull a fast one on the rest of the government and even other countries intelligence agencies and nobody figured it out until we were already at war. In that case, you should be mad at the president, but you should be furious at everyone who fell for it. Plus, look at some of those quotes that I posted, and from the article Arvarden linked too. Some of these quotes were from Clinton's administration. So Bush was also smart enough to trick Clinton's security advisor befor Bush ever even took office? You give him more credit than I do.

QUOTE

Those Christian evangelists and church leaders all point to Bush as its savior and urged their flock to vote for him. And those Christians who voted for him just because their christian leaders says so are morons.

I still don't understand where this is coming from. What does your hatred of Bush have to do with any religion. You are right though, people who vote for the leader of a country just because of what thier pastor, professor, TV ad, newspaper editor, ect. tell them are morons. But, in the US, we don't have any rules regarding morons and voting. Sorry.

QUOTE

A pharmacist must correctly dispense medication prescribed on a prescription. If the pharmacist makes a mistake he/she is held responsible and may lose there job and may be struck off. If an assistant wrongly prescribes medication from the prescription the pharmacist is held responsible and will lose there job.

Not really a good example. The pharmacist is responsible for the pharmacy and the employees. In the US government we have different branches that are separate but equal, so that no one person or branch has complete control. This system of checks and balances are set up like that, so that the president can not simply choose to go to war without the approval of the other branches.

I'm not trying to defend Bush or say the war is right or anything like that. What I think and what other people think doesn't change the fact that Bush is not soley to blame if you disagree with the war. There are plenty of people to blame.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: pug_ster on November 17, 2005, 01:38:00 PM

QUOTE(Ween311 @ Nov 17 2005, 09:31 PM)

Wow, that site had even more quotes than the ones I found.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Ween311 on November 17, 2005, 01:51:00 PM

QUOTE

There's a difference a pastor and a professor, tv ad and newspaper editor, etc... A pastor is associated to religion and the others do not.

Not really. These days a lot of people take the word of thier favorite professor, tv commentator, radio personality, etc as gospel and believe it and defend it as much as some religious people are apt to do. I do agree with you though, like I said before, anybody who votes for someone based on the word of someone like that is a moron, but what do we do about it?

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Ween311 on November 17, 2005, 01:57:00 PM

QUOTE(Arvarden @ Nov 17 2005, 03:59 PM)

Of course he's not soley responsible but those involved in taking our nations into a false war should be held accountable. That means Bush and his poodles but in a world of spin that will never happen while the majority supports greedy, lying polititions.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: pug_ster on November 17, 2005, 02:32:00 PM

QUOTE(Ween311 @ Nov 17 2005, 10:04 PM)

Not only Bush and his administration, but in this case all the senators and congressmen that called for action. The intelligence committess that supplied the information. Other countries governments that corroborated the intelligence or even contributed their own. It would be like firing everybody in the federal government and starting all over. I wouldn't really be opposed to that, but it's not very realistic. I don't really like career politicians either Arvarden. I think we should go back to a time, where regular old citizens run the government. You would have a responsibility to serve either your federal government or your local government in some capacity for a certain amount of time, then when you are done, you go back to your normal career. Nobody trying to become famous or make a name for themselves for the history books. Just regular citizens doing thier civic duty to make thier country a better place for everybody. I think today's politicians are too disconnected from us regular working stiffs. But, that's a rant for another time.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: PuMpKaN on November 17, 2005, 03:18:00 PM

Please think about what would of happended if john kerry was president. We would all be dead. He is the scared one.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: pug_ster on November 17, 2005, 04:25:00 PM

Oooo... it sounds so scary. From your attitude, it sounds like armageddon when Kerry gets elected as president, that's very conviencing. People like you don't even know why Hiliary was so bad except she is a 'disgusting vile woman.' That's a typical dumbass remark of republicans like you. Crap like this is why Democrats call this is another of Bush's 'fear and smear' campagin, even after he gets elected.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: lordvader129 on November 17, 2005, 05:17:00 PM

democracy is the rule of the people, if the majority people are idiots you get an idiot for president, so either

A: move to another country
B: educate 80,000,000+ people
C: quit compaining

EDIT: actually educate 40-50 million people, kinda sad really, when you figure the VAP, registration, and turnout, the presesident is elected by less than 30% of the total population, and about 40% of the population thats actually able to vote

and congress, who actually makes all the real decisions and holds all the real power, is elected by a much smaller percantage than that

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on November 17, 2005, 06:44:00 PM

QUOTE(puckSR @ Nov 18 2005, 02:40 AM)

pug_ster, i have to stop you

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on November 17, 2005, 06:55:00 PM

QUOTE(puckSR @ Nov 18 2005, 02:58 AM)

Hey genius....did he make those statements under oath?

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on November 17, 2005, 07:18:00 PM

QUOTE(puckSR @ Nov 18 2005, 03:15 AM)

No...you dumb fuck

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: lordvader129 on November 17, 2005, 08:06:00 PM

QUOTE(xmedia2004 @ Nov 17 2005, 07:25 PM)

What chapter is that in..

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on November 17, 2005, 10:34:00 PM

QUOTE(Ween311 @ Nov 17 2005, 09:58 PM)

Haha...Those aren't rants about democrats. They are actual quotes of what people said. You are the one dividing this into a republican and democrat argument. I never said anything about what political affiliation any of those people had. Just saying that they supported the intelligence and the president.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: lordvader129 on November 18, 2005, 12:48:00 AM

QUOTE

In your Air National Guard records, your annual performance review, dated May 2, 1973, says that you did not report for duty to your home base for an entire year. When this was disclosed during the 2000 campaign, your campaign said that you had spent part of that time doing service at an Air National Guard base in Alabama. But the commander of that base said--and recently confirmed--that you never showed up there. In 2000, your campaign promised to produce the names of people whom you served with in Alabama and who could vouch for your presence at the base there. It never did so. Why not? Can you now give us names of men or women with whom you served in Alabama?

i would liek it to be known that this "source" of xmedias, is actually a blog entry, giving a list of questions the writer intends to ask bush in an upcoming interview, it doesnt specify when or if this interview happened, nor does it show what bush's response was

a better source would have been a transcript of the interview itself, but GW probably had too good of an answer to the question for xmedias taste, or the interview never occurred

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: lordvader129 on November 18, 2005, 12:55:00 AM

QUOTE(puckSR @ Nov 18 2005, 01:00 AM)

dont fault xmedia

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: pug_ster on November 18, 2005, 09:28:00 AM

QUOTE(puckSR @ Nov 18 2005, 02:40 AM)

pug_ster, i have to stop you

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on November 18, 2005, 12:48:00 PM

QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Nov 18 2005, 09:02 AM)

i just thought id point it out to anyone with a brain who happens to be reading this, lol

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: lordvader129 on November 18, 2005, 01:14:00 PM

QUOTE

You seem to "want to try to" imply that Tim Russert is in some way trying to mislead the reader.

an opinion writer writing a subjective article? no, never
/sarcasm

my uncle didnt report to his home base of fort knox for 8 months in 1990, does this make him a deserter?

no, it makes him a gulf war veteran

not to say bush ever served overseas, but im saying there are perfectly reasonable explanations for not reporting at your home base, without bush's response in the interview one can only assume he didnt have a reason, of course its just as easy to assume he did have a good reason

in short, that statement may be fact, but the assumptions that must be associated with it to make your point are not fact

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Perfect Dark on November 18, 2005, 01:21:00 PM

DEATH TO AMERICA HALA HALA HALA

DEATH TO XMEDIA MALKAAAKKAAKKA

Whats america gonna do when china claims back Taiwan?
Nothing cause they dont have the balls,eg how would you like if New York state wanted to separate from the US and France helped the Governor acquiring its own missiles, weapons and so on? Do you think the US administration would ignore this?

Now some people will say this wont happen the difference is, while New York is definately a part of the United States (one of the founding states as a matter of fact), Taiwan most definately IS NOT a part of China

But the truth Taiwan was always a part of China. Taiwan has been part of China longer than USA even existed

I don't care what the USA says or does. China will NOT allow Taiwan to depart. If the Americans value Taiwan so much, be prepared to pay the ultimate price. Your own destruction

China has thousands of warheads, It can destroy the USA, and also destroy the world through nuclear winter,They also have the largest standing army in the world
And are steadily upgrading there conventional weapons,And will one day be the worlds super power

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on November 18, 2005, 01:29:00 PM

QUOTE(Perfect Dark @ Nov 18 2005, 09:28 PM)

DEATH TO XMEDIA MALKAAAKKAAKKA

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: PuMpKaN on November 18, 2005, 02:11:00 PM

QUOTE(Perfect Dark @ Nov 18 2005, 03:28 PM)

eg how would you like if New York state wanted to separate from the US and France helped the Governor acquiring its own missiles, weapons and so on? Do you think the US administration would ignore this?

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: pug_ster on November 19, 2005, 12:05:00 AM

Bush is really getting desparate. Instead of taking of problems there in the Asian Summit, he comes out and calls out his usual mantra of 'we are not supporting our troops what the democrats say.' And you have Cheney 'swiftboating' with his usual BS.

I'm glad that Kerry and the other Democrats start having some backbone and fire back at the president. Hopefully, we will see a Democratic majority in House, Senate and even in the white house in a few years because this repubilcan led congress, senate, and the white house are toally worthless.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: puckSR on November 19, 2005, 03:51:00 PM

I dont know about that...recently coalitions have been popping up that are both democrats and republicans

they have been attacking torture, PATRIOT ACT, and many other previous injustices.

The fact that Bush received carte blanche to do whatever he wanted after 9/11 was the downfall of the current congress, not the actual party affiliation

I would suggest that you continue to vote for your rep based on his actual voting record.
Do not vote republican or democrat, and ignore all of those political ads

Go online, look up voting records on important issues to you, vote accordinly
This is American....everything else is simply propaganda.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on November 20, 2005, 10:33:00 PM

2,083

Cpl. Roberto Abad 22 years old.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: pug_ster on November 21, 2005, 09:52:00 AM

Looks like Bush, Cheney and their cronies are swiftboating again accusing Democrats of 'cut and run', whatever that means. A house vote for 'immediate withdrawl' was turned down 400-3. Many democrats and Republicans agreed on a phased withdrawl.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on November 21, 2005, 11:07:00 AM

QUOTE

Republicans called Murtha's position one of abandonment and surrender and suggested that the decorated Marine Corps veteran of the Vietnam War and like-minded politicians were acting cowardly.

Two phrases that do not go together in the same sentence.

QUOTE

Cheney backed away from earlier administration characterizations of Rep. John Murtha (news, bio, voting record), D-Pa., as a coward and instead clled him "a good man, a Marine, a patriot

Spoken like a true chicken hawk, Maybe we should investigate wheher the asthma or whatever excuse he put forth to avoid his shift in the killing fields disqualifies him for government

Source

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on November 24, 2005, 12:15:00 PM

2,097 Americans

user posted image

Pfc. John W. Dearing 21 years old.........

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on November 27, 2005, 11:55:00 AM

QUOTE(puckSR @ Nov 24 2005, 11:59 PM)

Hey Xmedia...when are you going to do something constructive with all of your hate for current US policy

I dont know...maybe actually try and run for some sort of office?

Bitching in the xbox forum is not exactly constructive

2,106 Americans

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: bluedeath on November 27, 2005, 09:26:00 PM

QUOTE(puckSR @ Nov 24 2005, 04:59 PM)

The pot calls the kettle black. We are all bitching in the xbox forums. Pathetic I know but obviously birds of a feather. This is the only forum with a political hack section that has not kicked me out. Hard to believe ... I know.

I got nowhere else to go....... just like you.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: pug_ster on November 27, 2005, 09:45:00 PM

It makes me wonder why these 18 year olds who want to spend their next few years in the Armed Forces. Even though 2000 solderiers sounds small. But much more people would've died if we don't have the advances in medical technology even during in the last Gulf War. They wouldn't release the amount of soldiers who got honorabily discharged because they got injured but that number would be significant.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: bluedeath on November 28, 2005, 08:56:00 AM

QUOTE(puckSR @ Nov 28 2005, 01:46 AM)

Actually bluemedia there is a difference

Xmedia is complaining about the current state of politics...I am not

I have no reason to go "change the world"...I am satisfied with the way it is

Xmedia preaches social revolution...but he preaches to a limited audience of people who dislike him

I am simply saying that he should take his obvious social skills, and love of honesty...and run for office

Its hilarious how you are in the exact same forum that the rest of us posting bullshit just like the rest of us and yet you still believe that you are better than everyone else posting the same dribble. Condescending is definitely your thing. Oh special one do you consider this your calling. Are you hear to educate us. Is this your form of charity work?

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: lordvader129 on November 28, 2005, 11:07:00 AM

QUOTE(bluedeath @ Nov 28 2005, 10:03 AM)

ive never seen puck post any "bullshit" as you call it, he always has intelligent comments backed up by solid data, or when hes simply stating his opinion, he says so, and doesnt try to claim it as fact

i know, your just gonna say im only saying this because we agree on everything (which we dont) i dont agree with everything he says, but i respect him as an intelligent person, you and xmedia have done nothign to earn such respect from anyone

condescending? maybe, but dont you have to look down to see things below you?

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: bluedeath on November 28, 2005, 03:15:00 PM

QUOTE(puckSR @ Nov 28 2005, 12:48 PM)

thank you lordvader

I am explaining that I support the war to some degree, yet i dont need to "take my bum over there"

And you don't need to sign up because your better than everyone else.

You support it as long as it's not you doing the dirty work.

Like I said. Posting your Bullshit.

Vader as long as everyone here remains anonymous then it's all bullshit.

IYAOYAS

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on November 28, 2005, 04:04:00 PM

QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Nov 28 2005, 07:14 PM)

You are so dillusional to even imply that a give a rats arse of your opinion of me.

I dont need your permission, respect, or concurrence to state my OWN opinion.

I served during 3 foreign wars, and I am by no means a Colin Powell but I am darn sure not an Admiral Goerge "AWOL" Bush.

QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Nov 22 2005, 08:50 AM)

lol, thats like once an hour for 25 years, im surpised xmedia has any time to post here

The two of you are mental sheep, the blind leading the dumb. Shove your respect up your ASS I dont want it or need it.

You are just two upset CATHOLICS. Take me to TASK expose me as a LIAR. I DARE YOU. I know TRUTH hurts.

QUOTE(puckSR @ Nov 22 2005, 08:41 AM)

Xmedia was once accused of raping a 13 year old girl. He also has a laundry list of sexual predator crimes against him. I looked up his information by requesting an IP address from moderators, and then received a list of his personal information by claiming a copywrite violation under the DMCA.

***Crimes***

Petty vandalism-3 counts

sexual misconduct with a minor-1 count

Public indecency - 2 counts

DUI- 1 count

Public Intoxication- 1 count

Soliciting a prostitute- 58 counts

Sodomy - 238,956 counts
gniyl mi, hud

When all else fails maybe you should resort to name calling like your moronic friend. Even better yet IGNORE ME.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: lordvader129 on November 28, 2005, 04:12:00 PM

QUOTE

You are so dillusional to even imply that a give a rats arse of your opinion of me.

i dont think you care, im just stating a fact "i have no respect for you intelligence"

QUOTE

I dont need your permission, respect, or concurrence to state my OWN opinion.

and i dont need yours to state mine

QUOTE

I served during 3 foreign wars, and I am by no means a Colin Powell but I am darn sure not an Admiral Goerge "AWOL" Bush.

and this affects my opinion of your IQ how?

QUOTE

The two of you are mental sheep, the blind leading the dumb. Shove your respect up your ASS I dont want it or need it.

next youll be saying we're all trapped in the matrix

QUOTE

You are just two upset CATHOLICS.

i can assure you im not, and puck has said many times hes a deist, not a catholic

QUOTE

Take me to TASK expose me as a LIAR. I DARE YOU. I know TRUTH hurts.

we've done. several times. obviously the truth hurts since you wont accept it

QUOTE

When all else fails maybe you should resort to name calling like your moronic friend.

you resort to name calling long before anyone else, my "moronic friend"

QUOTE

Even better yet IGNORE ME.

its hard when you feel the need to post in every thread in here, and as a moderator i dont have the luxury of using the ignore button on the off chance you might post something i can ban you for

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on November 28, 2005, 04:33:00 PM

QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Nov 29 2005, 12:19 AM)

i dont think you care, im just stating a fact "i have no respect for you intelligence"
and i dont need yours to state mine
and this affects my opinion of your IQ how?
next youll be saying we're all trapped in the matrix
i can assure you im not, and puck has said many times hes a deist, not a catholic
we've done. several times. obviously the truth hurts since you wont accept it
you resort to name calling long before anyone else, my "moronic friend"
its hard when you feel the need to post in every thread in here, and as a moderator i dont have the luxury of using the ignore button on the off chance you might post something i can ban you for

My mommy said I shouldnt play with you.

You know I lost the little respect you could have for someone over the internet that I had for you when you said your mummy told you not to post in my threads. Thats just, GAY.

Well you should listen to your mummy.

QUOTE

its hard when you feel the need to post in every thread in here, and as a moderator i dont have the luxury of using the ignore button on the off chance you might post something i can ban you for

Damn the luck maybe I should do something for you to ban me, since I sold my xbox.

Your comments only prove my point.

P.S. That was my last post that will acknowledge your presence, I wish you would pass a note to your boyfriend and ask him to keep my username out of his posts since ignoring him doesnt work.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: lordvader129 on November 28, 2005, 04:36:00 PM

QUOTE(xmedia2004 @ Nov 28 2005, 05:40 PM)

Your comments only prove my point.

what point? you havent made a point for as long as ive been reading your crap

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on November 28, 2005, 04:44:00 PM

2,108 American boys and girls dead...

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2004 on November 29, 2005, 03:56:00 PM

2,110 Americans dead

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: puckSR on November 30, 2005, 06:48:00 PM

i agree wholeheartedly

They did not choose to fight...so support the troops and keep your personal opinions away from the brave men and women who fight in the name of this country

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Arvarden on December 01, 2005, 06:01:00 AM

In our democratic country's we have choice to choose the militarys lifestyle or a civilian lifestyle. By entering the Army you are signing contract that you will put your life on the line for your country. So tell us why they did not choose to fight? If I remember correctly many service men have refused to fight a immoral war and have paid the price though they have not paid the ultimate price like so many unfortunate soldiers in Iraq etc.

QUOTE(puckSR @ Dec 1 2005, 03:55 AM)

i agree wholeheartedly

They did not choose to fight...so support the troops and keep your personal opinions away from the brave men and women who fight in the name of this country

Funny thing is the majority opinion in the US does not support the war any longer, they are not fighting for the American people they are fighting for your President and his cronies. They are not fighting to liberate the Iraqi's they are fighting for a western style economy.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: puckSR on December 01, 2005, 04:22:00 PM

Not to be mean Avarden...but I was not aware that the military operated under a democratic...and fluidly democratic system of command?

If the majority of Americans do not support the war...why dont the soldier get called back? The president is not that powerful...congress must be able to do something...like declare peace and war...and congress is almost evenly split between democrats and republicans.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: Arvarden on December 01, 2005, 05:22:00 PM

Approx 70% of UK citizens oppossed, still oppose the invasion of Iraq yet we ended up invading and staying in Iraq without the consent of Parliment or the nation. Anyway if you think an already elected US government will listen to majority opinion and take action, you are mistaken. Your choice faded away when Bush was re-elected.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: lordvader129 on December 01, 2005, 06:02:00 PM

QUOTE

Your choice faded away when Bush was re-elected.

choice faded decades ago when the majority of the public decided congressional elections werent important enough to come out and vote in, bush has no real power, hes just the scapegoat

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: pug_ster on December 01, 2005, 08:25:00 PM

Even though when Saddam rule as a dictator and all, there was an healthy export of oil and the country was relatively stable. Take an example of Basra, even you don't see any insurgent activity. We basically 'lost' that city.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10285078/

Shite fundamentalist politicians are controlled Iran Militants and Sadr loyalists. I wouldn't be surprised that part of the country will be taken over by Iran when US leave. Oh well, this is what happens when Bush 'stays the course', what that course is.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: pug_ster on December 06, 2005, 07:27:00 PM

Sometimes I don't know what Bush want to do with the situation in Iraq. The flip-flopping Bush administration was against pulling troops out of Iraq a month ago now has a 'plan of victory' by pulling troops out of Iraq. And I thought that Kerry flip flops was bad.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: pug_ster on December 09, 2005, 03:21:00 PM

Uh huh,

http://www.cbsnews.c...in1110692.shtml

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: PhatIrishBastard on December 13, 2005, 09:57:00 AM

QUOTE

2,150 Americans dead

For my man that just shipped out to Kuwait....

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: PhatIrishBastard on March 08, 2006, 10:59:00 AM

QUOTE(PhatIrishBastard @ Dec 13 2005, 12:04 PM)

For my man that just shipped out to Kuwait....

2,304

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2007 on September 16, 2006, 12:38:00 PM

2680 DEAD

And, for what?

Oh bye the way I'm back bitches

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: lordvader129 on September 18, 2006, 10:13:00 PM

QUOTE(xmedia2007 @ Sep 16 2006, 02:45 PM)

Oh bye the way I'm back bitches

no, your not

QUOTE(Rules and Acceptable Posting Policy for Xbox-Scene)

Multiple Accounts You dont need more than one account. If we catch you with them well close all the accounts we find. If we find that after a ban youve made more accounts, well close them if we find them. We arent concerned if you claim to have turned over a new leaf. If you continue to make multiple accounts and harass this site, you can expect the following: your account info to be posted publicly, including your email, and your IP. You can also expect us to contact your home ISP and forward info, logs, and descriptions of your activities.

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: PhatIrishBastard on September 19, 2006, 04:10:00 PM

X, what up you back in the good ol U S of friggin A.

You probably havent been back two weeks and already pissing of these nerds.

Catch up with me once you get settled.

PLAY BOY...

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2003 on September 22, 2006, 10:27:00 AM

2691

QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Sep 19 2006, 12:20 PM)

no, your not

Maybe, maybe not.

QUOTE

Multiple Accounts You dont need more than one account. If we catch you with them well close all the accounts we find.

Good Luck, you havent so far. There are 7 cylons in the fleet.

QUOTE

If we find that after a ban youve made more accounts, well close them if we find them. We arent concerned if you claim to have turned over a new leaf.

No, I have not turned over a new leaf.

QUOTE

If you continue to make multiple accounts and harass this site, you can expect the following: your account info to be posted publicly, including your email, and your IP. You can also expect us to contact your home ISP and forward info, logs, and descriptions of your activities.

#1 Now, you know, that I know, that you know, you can not determine my real ISP if I do not wish you to. It is a reason they call this EZ Board. (I have several gate addresses)

#2 Ever email I have provided is illegitimate and used to pursue my understanding of the darkside, so feel free to disclose them if you so choose.

#3 And given the fact that the entire theme of this website is to promote felonous activites I find it highly improbable that you would wish to contact any authority of any shape or form to shine more light onto the scene. But whatever please refer to #1.

Tell you what I will drop the games you are a pretty nice guy, when you arent giving CockSr a hand job, and I am flattered to see how much you guys missed me while I was playing soldier.

Bon Chance,
Mon Ami

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: grim_d on September 22, 2006, 10:31:00 AM

QUOTE(xmedia2003 @ Sep 22 2006, 05:34 PM)

2691
Maybe, maybe not.

Good Luck, you havent so far. There are 7 cylons in the fleet.

No, I have not turned over a new leaf.

#1 Now, you know, that I know, that you know, you can not determine my real ISP if I do not wish you to. It is a reason they call this EZ Board. (I have several gate addresses)

#2 Ever email I have provided is illegitimate and used to pursue my understanding of the darkside, so feel free to disclose them if you so choose.

#3 And given the fact that the entire theme of this website is to promote felonous activites I find it highly improbable that you would wish to contact any authority of any shape or form to shine more light onto the scene. But whatever please refer to #1.

Tell you what I will drop the games you are a pretty nice guy, when you arent giving CockSr a hand job, and I am flattered to see how much you guys missed me while I was playing soldier.

Bon Chance,
Mon Ami

you underestimate the power of HSD

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: lordvader129 on September 25, 2006, 10:38:00 PM

another one bites the dust, its easier for me to kill an account than for you to make one, i guarantee youll get tired before the entire mod staff does

but do keep posting with them, makes it that much easier to track them down

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: lordvader129 on September 26, 2006, 04:02:00 PM

im sure your still reading this so lets get soemthign straight, i dont care if you have nothing better to do with your life than create dozens of accounts to spam the political section of a video game website, im not going to waste my time trying to track down your accounts, if you make it clear to me you are using a duplicate account, ill ban it, otherwise i really dont care, you just have fun in your self-important little world

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: xmedia2k7 on September 27, 2006, 07:11:00 AM

2,703

QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Sep 26 2006, 07:39 PM)

if you make it clear to me you are using a duplicate account, ill ban it, otherwise i really dont care, you just have fun in your self-important little world

I knew you would see things my way.

QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Sep 26 2006, 07:39 PM)

Really, coming from the babysitter of the "political section of a video game website"

QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Sep 26 2006, 07:39 PM)

im not going to waste my time trying to track down your accounts, if you make it clear to me you are using

You chose to participate in this exercise in futility. My roommate told you last year my IP was a fake. I do like a good challenge, not that this exercise was challenging.

My last post to you Lord Vader

Au Revoir

Title: Support The Troops?
Post by: PhatIrishBastard on September 27, 2006, 09:20:00 AM

QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Sep 26 2006, 04:09 PM)

QUOTE(xmedia2k7 @ Sep 27 2006, 07:18 AM)

2,703
I knew you would see things my way.
Really, coming from the babysitter of the "political section of a video game website"

Au Revoir

Both of you could use a good Canadian whore

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