If a child was disabled to the point this florida lady is, they would be nowhere near a school. They would be living in permanant care. If you ask your sister, I'm sure there are no children at her school who have zero brain activity on an EKG machine.
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If a child was disabled to the point this florida lady is, they would be nowhere near a school. They would be living in permanant care. If you ask your sister, I'm sure there are no children at her school who have zero brain activity on an EKG machine.
No, you are right about the brain activity. There is one little girl in particular that I bring up. She is in 2nd grade here in Florida. She has to use a portable respirator because she can not breathe properly on her on. I ask again. Should we let her starve to death?
This whole thing is starting to have a Stephen King like quality to it. The city of LUD comes to mind.
QUOTE(Ween311 @ Mar 26 2005, 06:27 PM)
No, you are right about the brain activity. There is one little girl in particular that I bring up. She is in 2nd grade here in Florida. She has to use a portable respirator because she can not breathe properly on her on. I ask again. Should we let her starve to death?
look, this comes down to the fact: who is her guardian? because she is deamed brain dead legally, then she cant really 'vouch' for herself, so who was appointed her guardian? cause if its her husband then he kinda has the say doesnt he?
and i would like to state, like everyone else, starving someone is inhumane, just inject her with something. its gotten to the point that a 12 year old kid was arrested for trying to bring her water. people get to emotional over this.
What's truley inhuman is letting this poor woman live. She's been a vegetable for how long? 15 years? Since she was in her 20's...she can't do shit, I can't imagine what it would be like to have to take care of your mentally retarded wife every day for the rest of your life. I'm sure the husband's sanity is weaning. Yes, the needle is a better way to die, but starving is an equal reward to living an obliviously shitty life.
I know if i were a vegtable for 15 years i would want to die, and i'm sure she would be saying the same thing. but she's not saying the same thing, not outloud not even in her mind. Her parents are delusional, they're trying to say they heard her said "i want to live" or some shit like that. It's sad to see what this has done to her parents. They need to move on with their lives.
~If your religious, let her die and be at peace and go to heaven
~If your not religious, let her body finally die the way her brain has been trying to make it for the last 15 years.
It's sad seeing the living dead, and it's sad seeing what this is doing to so many people. Her parents and everyone else freaking out about this should have coped with this when they coped with her being brain dead.
Terri Schiavo died in 1990, we're just keeping her body alive because her parents can't accept that their daughter is gone.
just my 2 cents, take it or leave it
thomes08
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Big fan of the needle. I would assume everyone would agree it is a more humane way to die. Unfortunately those people out in front of the hospice waving bibles care even more when the needle is discussed. It's illegal and people have been jailed.
Your question though it is a great way to avoid an issue when you are in the minority whilst claiming the moral highground.
I agree. There are definately more humane ways to end her life. I'm not trying to claim any moral high ground. I said in my first post that I didn't know what the right decision is and I wouldn't like having to be in the position of deciding. I just think that the way they are letting her die is horrible. Like the little girl I mentioned. If you took her off her respirator she would suffocate. I would not wish that on anyone either. The only problem is, if we do an injection the majorly conservative people will have a hissy. I see hypocracy (sp?) on both sides though. The left doesn't even want to use lethal injections on prisoners who have been sentenced to death. It's a complicated issue and hopefully (for her sake) Terry will pass on soon with little more suffering.
QUOTE(Mage @ Mar 28 2005, 11:02 AM)
First off people should get their facts straight so you don't just look a like a fool about the case.

Anyway why someone would want to live out there lives in such a manner, having no purpose, is beyond me. In her current state she is in not a productive citizen (how ironic, since I spend all day trolling
), and thus really serves no purpose since she cant survive (or think for that matter) on her own (although someone could refute this citing Stephen Hawking as an example, this is however quite different, since she has NO BRAIN ACTIVITY). Her family and her husband (although he does offer her salvation) obviously suffer from some sort of obsessive compulsive disorder, and feels some need to have absolute control in her life. I find it very disturbing that someone's control would go as far as to keep a person in such a vegetative state alive. As for euthanasia through starvation, it is quite humane in this case, as she has no awareness, no concept of pain, her death will be a slow peaceful one, but most importantly painless. It is time to release her from this prison that is the both physical and the dominating social nature of her family, it is time to set her free, and awaken to the nothingness that is the here after.
I think therefore I am.

Thats her brain scan, the big black bit in the middle is spinal fluid in place of the dead bit, just in case anyone was in any thinking that she might be able to "get better" in any way, shape or form!!
QUOTE(tampabayfan @ Mar 28 2005, 07:05 PM)
Don't blame the husband. Its been 15 years and he wants to move on. So what if he found someone else, he needs to because he hasn't had a relationship in 15 years because his wife is braindead. She will never recover. Some say they dont like the government(courts) saying she wouldn't want to live, but what about the president, how is this any more his business that the courts. Its not. It happens all the time in Texas because of George Bush's law he signed. If you ask me, this seems like some kind of political movement to get ready for the next presidential election. Can anyone say Jeb Bush?
QUOTE(bluedeath @ Mar 29 2005, 04:30 AM)
If he wanted to move on then why didn't he divorce her $$$$$$$$$
QUOTE(Mage @ Mar 29 2005, 08:06 AM)
021100-Trial 0Ct Order 0200
QUOTE(bluedeath @ Mar 29 2005, 06:06 PM)
You sidestepped my question
yes you can..theres a special type if they have mental problems...
Serously she needs to die..so this is over with, what gives me a chuckle is her parents think she will get out of it and be normal again.haha..
well, shes dead, so we can all rest. and yet the battles continue on, over how she should be buried. Jesus Christ.
Does it really matter? I understand the need to know that you buried your daugter/wife in a manner that she would want but is it something you should ARGUE over?
Sorry if this sounds offending..but damn..its time to let her rest
I thought it was funny since her brother and sister who wanted to cut the feeding tube said they gotten death threats from pro-life activits
It's just a big media frenzy. The networks have been aching for something to cover other than Iraq. So they turn to Michael Jackson and the Shiavo case. Both are entirely inconsequential and frankly, mean nothing to the rest of the world. But somehow the American public still manages to get all wrapped up in this bull shit story. I don't care of the family is still battling... do you? My recommendation: Don't watch the news.
haha moistness...classic pics...I SOO WANT THAT GAME..HOW MUCH!
... or fucking a sheep. Heh, at least they can't say no.
Seriously, why is someone starving to death funny? And people wonder why the rest of the world hates us.... or people like moistness
XS - Enthusiast = Someone with a social life
Moistness = Pathetic troll bitch who enjoys other's suffering
QUOTE(Tony42077 @ Apr 2 2005, 02:54 AM)
Moistness is a pathetic little bitch who will only be happy when he is burning in hell

... or fucking a sheep. Heh, at least they can't say no.
QUOTE(Northcarolina ReDn3k @ Apr 2 2005, 02:45 PM)
haha...guess what i..i thought it was soo fucking funny..im geussin your ass must be sore from mr clinton right?.
QUOTE(moistness @ Apr 2 2005, 12:19 PM)
Exactly, the stupid bitch starved herself into braindeath, how can you have sympathy for that??
QUOTE(moistness @ Apr 2 2005, 06:19 PM)
Exactly, the stupid bitch starved herself into braindeath, how can you have sympathy for that??
QUOTE(Tony42077 @ Apr 2 2005, 07:25 PM)
You're right, her plan was to put herself into a coma by bulimia... you really are an ignorant moron. People that find humor in other people's suffering are pathetic little fucks - moistness.
QUOTE(moistness @ Apr 4 2005, 02:56 PM)
She was NOT suffering, she was not aware of her own existence!
QUOTE(Tony42077 @ Apr 4 2005, 03:43 PM)
I find it sad that she was starved to death, a lethal injection would have been a more humane treatment for a person in her condition.
Having said that I don't believe in euthanasia the brain is complex lump of meat, we still don't fully understand it. Just because a machine tells you someone is brain dead doesn't mean they are brain dead.
I think its funny..since it was her fault and all of you are crying over it..serously..who cares..same as the pope dieing..that didnt affect me at all..who cares??
QUOTE(Arvarden @ Apr 5 2005, 10:02 AM)
So if you get cancer, aids, huntington's disease etc it is your fault?
QUOTE(Arvarden @ Apr 5 2005, 06:02 AM)
So if you get cancer, aids, huntington's disease etc it is your fault?
QUOTE(MaxMuscleWear @ Apr 4 2005, 08:34 PM)
i thought moistness' first picture was funny, but the following pictures were not. In fact I felt bad after laughing at the first pic. Moistness is just trying to get some attention. Im tired of seeing those dumb pics.
QUOTE(Tony42077 @ Apr 2 2005, 02:25 PM)
Based on his humor, the people that were killed by the tsunami should have had the forsithe to move from such a dangerous area. I can see it now... A picture of a stack of rotting corpses with the caption "If I only would have joined the swim team"
QUOTE(Electro Nation @ Apr 5 2005, 10:02 PM)
I'm tired of narcissistic faggots who think body building is weightlifting, it's not. REAL MEN DO OLYMPIC LIFTING. Try doing something where you don't have a fucking robot do all the lifting for you. Bitch (bench; you get it?!?!) press is for women.
QUOTE(Northcarolina ReDn3k @ Apr 7 2005, 01:18 AM)
Have you noticed no one likes you...and we dont care about the useless shit you post..go hide in a corner...
QUOTE(moistness @ Apr 7 2005, 02:38 PM)
I care about the useless shit he posts!! Makes my life worth living!!
her brain was liquified, and this happens to ALOT of people every year. If you think this is the first time this has ever happened, you are an ignorant fool
QUOTE(SKoT @ Apr 8 2005, 11:18 AM)
her brain was liquified, and this happens to ALOT of people every year. If you think this is the first time this has ever happened, you are an ignorant fool
QUOTE(Northcarolina ReDn3k @ Apr 8 2005, 04:44 PM)
any one gota straw?!
moistness, do you make these pics or find em? wherever you get em, hilarious
anyways, no, i dont think anyone thinks this is the first time it has happened, i think the reason it was so blown out of proportion (because it was, and anyone who disagrees with me on that has no gauge on what 'proportion' is) was because the battle between the parents and the husband went on for YEARS
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QUOTE(Northcarolina ReDn3k @ Apr 13 2005, 02:41 PM)
hah..i didnt get where what you said came from
I know i know i just got confused...