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Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: bluedeath on March 23, 2005, 03:06:00 PM
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This case has really been nasty.  It appears they are going to crucify her just in time for Easter.

If the husband really wanted her to die in peace he should have taken the responsibility on himself and killed her via a lethal injection.  Instead he chooses to make her suffer.  Very sickening.
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: pepsik on March 23, 2005, 04:00:00 PM
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"When I close my eyes at night, all I can see is Terri's face in front of me, dying, starving to death," Mary Schindler said outside the hospice. "Please, someone out there, stop this cruelty. Stop the insanity. Please let my daughter live."


It's funny this family says this after their daughter starved herself into vegetation. This woman is a vegetable, that chose to kill herself by unhealthy eating habits, now she is nothing but dead weight that state taxpayers have been supporting for 15 years. The federal government is showing how much of a big spendor it is when it comes to the aid of a self inflicted vegetable. The videos that the congressmen have used in support for this case are on the rare occasions when this woman is not spasming violently in her hospital bed. The way I see it, she tried to kill herself, her family could have saved her, if they paid attention to her bullemic/anorexia, but now she is a lifeless shell being supported by a machine. The quotes from this family are amazing, in one article they say that visiting their daughter once or twice a week has been the inspiration to their lives - wait a second you do realize that your visitng her after she is brain dead, why didn't they give her this emotional support when she was trying to kill herself with malnutrition?

A little late for the love and affection they say they will miss if she is gone. It's not like these people take care of her, they just pay for a nursing home to feed,bath and clothe her while they visit once maybe twice a week for 30 minutes. It's just rediculous to think this is a medical case that needs presidential attention.

Finish what the woman wanted to do 15 years ago and let her die.
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: iwinulose on March 23, 2005, 07:12:00 PM
your a fuc.....(dont wanna start a flame war)
why the fuck is the government allowing her to be starved to death, they fucking treat convicted felons better
i dont even understand how it got to this point, the husband didnt want her so the family said they would take care of her (even pay the medical bill...) why has it gone this fucking far???
this is a sad day for america if these fucking....grrr grr.gif .... i dont know what the fuck to call them because i dont understand why we should let them live
any way its a sad day for america if we can starve a fucking human to death, that is "brain dead" but we give a rapist/murderer a last meal and then let them die painlessly
god damn people piss me off
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: rony2211 on March 24, 2005, 06:58:00 AM
i love the fact that we care so much about tax payers money ya they can use mine to keep her alive why not that or a millon on cow farts ,as to how she got that way pepski do a little more fact checking before you say she did this to her self her husban went to court saying he would take care of her forever ,then 7 years latter he just happens to remember that one night while they were watching tv that she says she would not want to live like this about the same time he is seeing another woman hmm strange know ,as for him i think they should do a little um i dont know police work cuz somethings up with him . but anyway
we wont let a dog or cat starve you can go to jail for that but a human lets let her die she is know use to anybody .bullshit she has family who want to take care of her thats all they ask .no most of our liberal judges and citizens would rether just kill her ,but not that cute little puppy no way  mad.gif
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: pepsik on March 24, 2005, 01:36:00 PM
lets see,this is  for the unimformed masses, from a credible news agency

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Schiavo, now 41, suffered what court-appointed doctors have called irreversible brain damage 15 years ago when her heart stopped due to a chemical imbalance, believed to have been caused by an eating disorder. The legal showdown has spanned more than seven years, with more than 20 different state and federal courts making rulings.


I would rather they euthanize her, but her parents are pathetic, if they cared for her they would keep her in thier home instead of locking her up in a home. If you've never been to a hospice you should go into one and see if this type of place you would put your loved ones.
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: rony2211 on March 24, 2005, 01:43:00 PM
trust me ive been there my wife and my sister work there and what is stoping the parents from taking her home is her peice of shit spouse wants her dead as far as credible news ya right i bet you would not starve a puppy
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: rony2211 on March 24, 2005, 03:40:00 PM
who the fuck are you to say post closed
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: rony2211 on March 24, 2005, 03:44:00 PM
ooh post closed sorry i was thinking topic beerchug.gif
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: jbp20717 on March 24, 2005, 03:52:00 PM
The way I see it, if a person cannot live without a life support machine, or live a half-decent life with one, there is absolutely no point in just keeping them in a vegetative state for the sake of it.  I can understand people don't want her to starve to death - and an injection would probably be more suitable, but then there's all the stuff about the exact legal position in mercy killings and so forth...

BTW, I bet you wouldn't kill a puppy!! wink.gif
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: pepsik on March 24, 2005, 04:05:00 PM
Unfortunalty this is not the Netherlands where there is government sanctioned euthanasia. This woman is a vegetable, that did it to herself. This is the main ethical point that sways my opinon towards letting her die. The family should look into organ donation and save more lives than waste resources. All the claims about her snapping out of this are fairy tales, the doctors run extensive tests and when it comes down to it, nobody wants to make that kind of diagnosis.

I work in healtchcare and bust my ballz everyday trying to save lives, starving her is cruel, but I would not want to be a vegetable in a slum house for the rest of my life.

This case is all about living wills, if you don't want to be on a machine then put it in writing. She didn't and thats why its made such a big fuss.

BTW I have a few adorable pups for sale right now love.gif
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: rony2211 on March 24, 2005, 04:06:00 PM
i could give a flying fuck about a dog, cat ,fish this is a human
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: Wong Hung Lo on March 24, 2005, 04:12:00 PM
It's time for her parents to let her go. She's brain dead and is no longer here. At least she isn't suffering.

I've seen to many family and friends going out screaming from cancer when they should be able to go out without suffering.

A good friend of mine had cancer and was suffering and ended it with a single gunshot to the head. It was quick and his suffering ended. I was upset when he did it but I now understand why he did it and would do the same thing if I was in that situation.

People treat animals better than they do humans. They would rather let a human suffer till death but would put their dog down if they were suffering.

I think Jack Kevorkian is a hero and should be let out of prison.
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: bluedeath on March 24, 2005, 05:53:00 PM
If the issue is suffering then why doesn't the husband take responsibility?  Of mice and men.
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: pug_ster on March 24, 2005, 07:50:00 PM
Let's see, Jeb, George and the Republican Led House moved to act to save a braindead woman while they don't give a damn about 10 people getting killed execution style in MN.  You tell me who's pro-Life.
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: Ween311 on March 25, 2005, 10:31:00 AM
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Let's see, Jeb, George and the Republican Led House moved to act to save a braindead woman while they don't give a damn about 10 people getting killed execution style in MN. You tell me who's pro-Life.


Are you talking about the school shooting?  That's a totally different situation.  That happened on a reservation.  It has laws independent of the rest of the US.  What can Jeb and George do about it?  Nothing.  Plus, those people are already dead.  They can't be brought back to life.They were killed with a law officers weapons.  This person would have had access to weapons even if the anti-gun crowd had thier wish.

This issue is about an individual who is alive.  She breathes on her own.  She needs assistance with getting food.  My sister works at a school that has a program for disabled children.  Terry has a lot more functions then some of these kids.  Should we kill these kids instead of taking care of them?

I think this is a really tough issue.  Her family wants to take care of her and keep up their hope that one day medical science will be able to help her.  Her husband wants to go ahead and let her go.  He says that she would not want to live like this, but she didn't have a living will that made her wishes known.  It's his word against her families.  I would hate to be in the position of making this decision.  I don't know what the right answer is.

The thing that bugs me the most is the people who want to starve her to death seem to be the same people that were so upset that we took naked pictures of prisoners and screamed torture.  Starving someone to death seems like just as much torture as anything we allegedly did to those prisoners.  Just something to think about.
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: pug_ster on March 25, 2005, 12:42:00 PM
I would agree that starving her to death is kind of cruel.  It would've been much easier to give her an injection or something...  As for the disabled children, I am sure that their next of Kin didn't want them to die.  Also, those kids are not legally 'brain dead,'  unlike terry Schiavo.

As for the 10 people died in the school shooting.  Maybe the government should do something to help to prevent this from happening instead of turning a blind eye.
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: bluedeath on March 25, 2005, 12:52:00 PM
QUOTE(pug_ster @ Mar 25 2005, 11:48 AM)

Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: moistness on March 25, 2005, 04:23:00 PM
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Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: Colonel32 on March 26, 2005, 05:08:00 AM
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My sister works at a school that has a program for disabled children. Terry has a lot more functions then some of these kids. Should we kill these kids instead of taking care of them?


If a child was disabled to the point this florida lady is, they would be nowhere near a school. They would be living in permanant care. If you ask your sister, I'm sure there are no children at her school who have zero brain activity on an EKG machine.





Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: HomestarStunner on March 26, 2005, 11:45:00 AM
QUOTE(Colonel32 @ Mar 26 2005, 12:14 PM)
If a child was disabled to the point this florida lady is, they would be nowhere near a school. They would be living in permanant care. If you ask your sister, I'm sure there are no children at her school who have zero brain activity on an EKG machine.
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: Ween311 on March 26, 2005, 05:21:00 PM
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If a child was disabled to the point this florida lady is, they would be nowhere near a school. They would be living in permanant care. If you ask your sister, I'm sure there are no children at her school who have zero brain activity on an EKG machine.


No, you are right about the brain activity.  There is one little girl in particular that I bring up.  She is in 2nd grade here in Florida.  She has to use a portable respirator because she can not breathe properly on her on.  I ask again.  Should we let her starve to death?
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: rgtaa on March 26, 2005, 06:47:00 PM
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Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: moistness on March 26, 2005, 09:56:00 PM
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Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: bluedeath on March 26, 2005, 11:04:00 PM
This whole thing is starting to have a Stephen King like quality to it.  The city of LUD comes to mind.
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: amicold on March 27, 2005, 02:12:00 AM
QUOTE(Ween311 @ Mar 26 2005, 06:27 PM)
No, you are right about the brain activity.  There is one little girl in particular that I bring up.  She is in 2nd grade here in Florida.  She has to use a portable respirator because she can not breathe properly on her on.  I ask again.  Should we let her starve to death?
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: thewickedjester on March 27, 2005, 01:04:00 PM
look, this comes down to the fact: who is her guardian? because she is deamed brain dead legally, then she cant really 'vouch' for herself, so who was appointed her guardian? cause if its her husband then he kinda has the say doesnt he?

and i would like to state, like everyone else, starving someone is inhumane, just inject her with something. its gotten to the point that a 12 year old kid was arrested for trying to bring her water. people get to emotional over this.
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: tRuTh1337 on March 28, 2005, 02:44:00 AM
What's truley inhuman is letting this poor woman live. She's been a vegetable for how long? 15 years? Since she was in her 20's...she can't do shit, I can't imagine what it would be like to have to take care of your mentally retarded wife every day for the rest of your life. I'm sure the husband's sanity is weaning. Yes, the needle is a better way to die, but starving is an equal reward to living an obliviously shitty life.
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: thomes08 on March 28, 2005, 09:10:00 AM
I know if i were a vegtable for 15 years i would want to die, and i'm sure she would be saying the same thing.  but she's not saying the same thing, not outloud not even in her mind.  Her parents are delusional, they're trying to say they heard her said "i want to live" or some shit like that.  It's sad to see what this has done to her parents. They need to move on with their lives.

~If your religious, let her die and be at peace and go to heaven
~If your not religious, let her body finally die the way her brain has been trying to make it for the last 15 years.

It's sad seeing the living dead, and it's sad seeing what this is doing to so many people.  Her parents and everyone else freaking out about this should have coped with this when they coped with her being brain dead.

Terri Schiavo died in 1990, we're just keeping her body alive because her parents can't accept that their daughter is gone.

just my 2 cents, take it or leave it


thomes08
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: Ween311 on March 28, 2005, 10:49:00 AM
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Big fan of the needle. I would assume everyone would agree it is a more humane way to die. Unfortunately those people out in front of the hospice waving bibles care even more when the needle is discussed. It's illegal and people have been jailed.

Your question though it is a great way to avoid an issue when you are in the minority whilst claiming the moral highground.


I agree.  There are definately more humane ways to end her life.  I'm not trying to claim any moral high ground.  I said in my first post that I didn't know what the right decision is and I wouldn't like having to be in the position of deciding.  I just think that the way they are letting her die is horrible.  Like the little girl I mentioned.  If you took her off her respirator she would suffocate.  I would not wish that on anyone either.  The only problem is, if we do an injection the majorly conservative people will have a hissy.  I see hypocracy (sp?) on both sides though.  The left doesn't even want to use lethal injections on prisoners who have been sentenced to death.  It's a complicated issue and hopefully (for her sake) Terry will pass on soon with little more suffering.
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: bluedeath on March 28, 2005, 01:13:00 PM
QUOTE(Mage @ Mar 28 2005, 11:02 AM)
First off people should get their facts straight so you don't just look a like a fool about the case.
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: Electro Nation on March 28, 2005, 02:58:00 PM
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Anyway why someone would want to live out there lives in such a manner, having no purpose, is beyond me. In her current state she is in not a productive citizen (how ironic, since I spend all day trolling rolleyes.gif), and thus really serves no purpose since she can’t survive (or think for that matter) on her own (although someone could refute this citing Stephen Hawking as an example, this is however quite different, since she has NO BRAIN ACTIVITY). Her family and her husband (although he does offer her salvation) obviously suffer from some sort of obsessive compulsive disorder, and feels some need to have absolute control in her life. I find it very disturbing that someone's control would go as far as to keep a person in such a vegetative state alive. As for euthanasia through starvation, it is quite humane in this case, as she has no awareness, no concept of pain, her death will be a slow peaceful one, but most importantly painless. It is time to release her from this prison that is the both physical and the dominating social nature of her family, it is time to set her free, and awaken to the nothingness that is the here after.

I think therefore I am.
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: moistness on March 28, 2005, 04:56:00 PM
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Thats her brain scan, the big black bit in the middle is spinal fluid in place of the dead bit, just in case anyone was in any thinking that she might be able to "get better" in any way, shape or form!!
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: bluedeath on March 28, 2005, 10:24:00 PM
QUOTE(tampabayfan @ Mar 28 2005, 07:05 PM)
Don't blame the husband.  Its been 15 years and he wants to move on.  So what if he found someone else, he needs to because he hasn't had a relationship in 15 years because his wife is braindead.  She will never recover.  Some say they dont like the government(courts) saying she wouldn't want to live, but what about the president, how is this any more his business that the courts.  Its not.  It happens all the time in Texas because of George Bush's law he signed.  If you ask me, this seems like some kind of political movement to get ready for the next presidential election.  Can anyone say Jeb Bush?
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: moistness on March 29, 2005, 04:48:00 AM
QUOTE(bluedeath @ Mar 29 2005, 04:30 AM)
If he wanted to move on then why didn't he divorce her $$$$$$$$$
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: bluedeath on March 29, 2005, 10:00:00 AM
QUOTE(Mage @ Mar 29 2005, 08:06 AM)
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: edudlive on March 30, 2005, 10:15:00 AM
QUOTE(bluedeath @ Mar 29 2005, 06:06 PM)
You sidestepped my question
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: Northcarolina ReDn3k on March 30, 2005, 10:42:00 AM
yes you can..theres a special type if they have mental problems...
Serously she needs to die..so this is over with, what gives me a chuckle is her parents think she will get out of it and be normal again.haha..
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: thewickedjester on March 31, 2005, 12:53:00 PM
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well, shes dead, so we can all rest. and yet the battles continue on, over how she should be buried. Jesus Christ.

Does it really matter? I understand the need to know that you buried your daugter/wife in a manner that she would want but is it something you should ARGUE over?
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: Northcarolina ReDn3k on March 31, 2005, 01:33:00 PM
blink.gif Sorry if this sounds offending..but damn..its time to let her rest
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: itdbesam on March 31, 2005, 02:00:00 PM
I thought it was funny since her brother and sister who wanted to cut the feeding tube said they gotten death threats from pro-life activits
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: moistness on March 31, 2005, 04:28:00 PM
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Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: The unProfessional on April 01, 2005, 01:24:00 PM
It's just a big media frenzy.  The networks have been aching for something to cover other than Iraq.  So they turn to Michael Jackson and the Shiavo case.  Both are entirely inconsequential and frankly, mean nothing to the rest of the world.  But somehow the American public still manages to get all wrapped up in this bull shit story.  I don't care of the family is still battling... do you?  My recommendation: Don't watch the news.
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: moistness on April 01, 2005, 05:13:00 PM
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Post by: Northcarolina ReDn3k on April 01, 2005, 10:03:00 PM
haha moistness...classic pics...I SOO WANT THAT GAME..HOW MUCH!
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: Tony42077 on April 02, 2005, 01:48:00 AM
tongue.gif... or fucking a sheep. Heh, at least they can't say no.
Seriously, why is someone starving to death funny? And people wonder why the rest of the world hates us.... or people like moistness




XS - Enthusiast = Someone with a social life
Moistness = Pathetic troll bitch who enjoys other's suffering
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: Northcarolina ReDn3k on April 02, 2005, 08:39:00 AM
QUOTE(Tony42077 @ Apr 2 2005, 02:54 AM)
Moistness is a pathetic little bitch who will only be happy when he is burning in hell tongue.gif... or fucking a sheep. Heh, at least they can't say no.
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: moistness on April 02, 2005, 11:13:00 AM
QUOTE(Northcarolina ReDn3k @ Apr 2 2005, 02:45 PM)
haha...guess what i..i thought it was soo fucking funny..im geussin your ass must be sore from mr clinton right?.
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: Northcarolina ReDn3k on April 02, 2005, 11:59:00 AM
QUOTE(moistness @ Apr 2 2005, 12:19 PM)
Exactly, the stupid bitch starved herself into braindeath, how can you have sympathy for that??
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: Tony42077 on April 02, 2005, 01:19:00 PM
QUOTE(moistness @ Apr 2 2005, 06:19 PM)
Exactly, the stupid bitch starved herself into braindeath, how can you have sympathy for that??
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: Northcarolina ReDn3k on April 02, 2005, 01:23:00 PM
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Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: moistness on April 04, 2005, 08:50:00 AM
QUOTE(Tony42077 @ Apr 2 2005, 07:25 PM)
You're right, her plan was to put herself into a coma by bulimia... you really are an ignorant moron. People that find humor in other people's suffering are pathetic little fucks - moistness.
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: Tony42077 on April 04, 2005, 10:37:00 AM
QUOTE(moistness @ Apr 4 2005, 02:56 PM)
She was NOT suffering, she was not aware of her own existence!
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: moistness on April 04, 2005, 02:15:00 PM
QUOTE(Tony42077 @ Apr 4 2005, 03:43 PM)

Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: Arvarden on April 04, 2005, 02:30:00 PM
I find it sad that she was starved to death, a lethal injection would have been a more humane treatment for a person in her condition.  

Having said that I don't believe in euthanasia the brain is complex lump of meat, we still don't fully understand it. Just because a machine tells you someone is brain dead doesn't mean they are brain dead.  



Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: Northcarolina ReDn3k on April 04, 2005, 03:05:00 PM
I think its funny..since it was her fault and all of you are crying over it..serously..who cares..same as the pope dieing..that didnt affect me at all..who cares??
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: moistness on April 05, 2005, 10:02:00 AM
QUOTE(Arvarden @ Apr 5 2005, 10:02 AM)
So if you get cancer, aids, huntington's disease etc it is your fault?
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: Northcarolina ReDn3k on April 05, 2005, 02:49:00 PM
QUOTE(Arvarden @ Apr 5 2005, 06:02 AM)
So if you get cancer, aids, huntington's disease etc it is your fault?
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: Electro Nation on April 05, 2005, 08:56:00 PM
QUOTE(MaxMuscleWear @ Apr 4 2005, 08:34 PM)
i thought moistness' first picture was funny, but the following pictures were not. In fact I felt bad after laughing at the first pic. Moistness is just trying to get some attention. Im tired of seeing those dumb pics.
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: moistness on April 06, 2005, 08:36:00 AM
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Post by: thewickedjester on April 06, 2005, 11:35:00 AM
QUOTE(Tony42077 @ Apr 2 2005, 02:25 PM)
Based on his humor, the people that were killed by the tsunami should have had the forsithe to move from such a dangerous area. I can see it now... A picture of a stack of rotting corpses with the caption "If I only would have joined the swim team"
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: Northcarolina ReDn3k on April 06, 2005, 08:12:00 PM
QUOTE(Electro Nation @ Apr 5 2005, 10:02 PM)
I'm tired of narcissistic faggots who think body building is weightlifting, it's not. REAL MEN DO OLYMPIC LIFTING. Try doing something where you don't have a fucking robot do all the lifting for you. Bitch (bench; you get it?!?!) press is for women.
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: moistness on April 07, 2005, 08:32:00 AM
QUOTE(Northcarolina ReDn3k @ Apr 7 2005, 01:18 AM)
Have you noticed no one likes you...and we dont care about the useless shit you post..go hide in a corner...
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: Electro Nation on April 07, 2005, 10:44:00 AM
QUOTE(moistness @ Apr 7 2005, 02:38 PM)
I care about the useless shit he posts!! Makes my life worth living!!  smile.gif
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: SKoT on April 08, 2005, 10:12:00 AM
her brain was liquified, and this happens to ALOT of people every year. If you think this is the first time this has ever happened, you are an ignorant fool
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: Northcarolina ReDn3k on April 08, 2005, 11:38:00 AM
QUOTE(SKoT @ Apr 8 2005, 11:18 AM)
her brain was liquified, and this happens to ALOT of people every year. If you think this is the first time this has ever happened, you are an ignorant fool
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: moistness on April 08, 2005, 11:54:00 AM
QUOTE(Northcarolina ReDn3k @ Apr 8 2005, 04:44 PM)
any one gota straw?!
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: thewickedjester on April 08, 2005, 12:04:00 PM
moistness, do you make these pics or find em? wherever you get em, hilarious

anyways, no, i dont think anyone thinks this is the first time it has happened, i think the reason it was so blown out of proportion (because it was, and anyone who disagrees with me on that has no gauge on what 'proportion' is) was because the battle between the parents and the husband went on for YEARS
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Post by: Northcarolina ReDn3k on April 08, 2005, 12:06:00 PM
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Post by: thewickedjester on April 13, 2005, 10:43:00 AM
QUOTE(Northcarolina ReDn3k @ Apr 8 2005, 12:12 PM)
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Post by: Northcarolina ReDn3k on April 13, 2005, 02:35:00 PM
QUOTE(thewickedjester @ Apr 13 2005, 11:49 AM)
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Post by: thewickedjester on April 14, 2005, 09:54:00 AM
QUOTE(Northcarolina ReDn3k @ Apr 13 2005, 02:41 PM)
hah..i didnt get where what you said came from biggrin.gif
Title: Schiavo Case
Post by: Northcarolina ReDn3k on April 14, 2005, 01:50:00 PM
I know i know i just got confused...