Post by: coltblue18 on November 17, 2004, 07:45:00 PM
Post by: EmperorPsiblade on November 17, 2004, 07:58:00 PM
Everyone duck and cover!!!!
The nuclear bombs are a comin'!!!!
I honestly haven't seen such a delusional fool in sooooo long...
Why did they air it? because of FREEDOM OF THE PRESS!!!! READ THE DAMN CONSTITUTION YOU HIPPIE FREAK!!!!
the "controlled media" WTF?
they should ban you for multiple accounts!
remember:
ignorance is bliss
Post by: nemt on November 18, 2004, 08:06:00 AM
Post by: Baner on November 18, 2004, 11:04:00 AM
Post by: Maximumbeing on November 18, 2004, 02:40:00 PM
Post by: The unProfessional on November 18, 2004, 03:43:00 PM
Yet every war crime and shameless tactic used by the enemy somehow falls through the cracks.
Post by: nemt on November 18, 2004, 04:18:00 PM
Post by: shanafan on November 18, 2004, 04:34:00 PM
Post by: .fortune on November 18, 2004, 04:43:00 PM
| QUOTE (shanafan @ Nov 19 2004, 01:37 AM) |
| What is the big deal? Isn't this the point of war, to kill the enemy? If the Iraqi had a weapon, he would have shot an unarmed Marine. So, it's just. Too fucken bad if you think it's immoral or improper. It's war. People in wars don't act morally correct the whole time. Kill the terrorists, kill the enemy. |
Exactly. People die every day over there, and the point is, I don't care. It's not my problem. The marines are doing their job, and Iraqi's do the same. I don't care if it's not religiously right or not, when you get shoved, shove back.
Post by: dmb062082 on November 18, 2004, 04:53:00 PM
Bush = Evil
There is no other politic talk needed. =)
Post by: pepsik on November 18, 2004, 04:58:00 PM
| QUOTE (nemt @ Nov 19 2004, 01:21 AM) |
| All laws regarding prisoners of war only apply to soldiers, in uniforms, responsible to a central authority. |
This is absolutly correct, but the soldier will most likely be court martialed under the UCMJ articles:
899.99 Misbehavior before the enemy
893.93 Cruelty and maltreatment
898.98 Failure to obey order or regulation
913.13 Misbehavior of a sentinal
918.18 Murder - probably not since it is during war
919.119 Manslaughter - probably not since it is during war
It kindof sux, the guy gets shot, loses his friend, gets his revenge and will probably get kicked out of the military.
Post by: Arvarden on November 18, 2004, 06:54:00 PM
Shanafan the Iraqi war finished some time ago.
Post by: Maximumbeing on November 18, 2004, 07:29:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| What is the big deal? Isn't this the point of war, to kill the enemy? If the Iraqi had a weapon, he would have shot an unarmed Marine. So, it's just. Too fucken bad if you think it's immoral or improper. It's war. People in wars don't act morally correct the whole time. Kill the terrorists, kill the enemy. |
What war is this? The war on unarmed injured people?
I don't recall the US ever declaring war on the unarmed injured people of the world.
So if they ignore the rules of war, they're terrorists, but if we do it...it's just fighting fair? Great.
Post by: nemt on November 18, 2004, 07:30:00 PM
Post by: Baner on November 19, 2004, 11:20:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| "What do you expect to happen in a war,people get shot. he shoots an unarmed fighter in the head and he dies." If you get pissed off when someone disagrees with you, don't you think you'd be a bit ticked off if you got shot in the face, whether or not it was a direct hit, and your friend got blown to shit by a booby-trapped body. Like psi said, I'd be a bit on the jumpy side if I saw the same set-up that killed my friend. And like you said, it's a war, people get shot. If one of our soldier were unarmed, walking down the street, would it not be ok for a terrorist to shoot him? I sure as hell know we wouldn't see that on tv, they won't even show us the damned flagged drapped caskets. I don't understand why our media will report one of our soldiers shooting an iraqi for days on end as "breaking news" but when a civilian woman who helped those fuckin pigs for 30 years out of her life gets executed, it only gets a 5 minute spot on today's news. Our media is bullshit, no wonder why troop moral is low and we have so many damned protestors. |
My post from the other thread about this.
| QUOTE |
| I don't recall the US ever declaring war on the unarmed injured people of the world. |
How did he get injured? Most likely being shot by us or them right? If he was shot by us, then more than likely he had a gun, or was threating the troops in some way correct? Therefore before the fact, he wasn't injured, and he was more than likely the enemey. The point of carrying guns is to kill the enemey, and that's him. The resistance over there is known to booby trap the dead, so checking them can prove to be deadly in the first place.
I, for one, know that if someone was invading my city, I'd pack up and go, unless I had a reason for risking my life, and my house ain't gonna make me stick around and die.
Post by: cromat44 on November 19, 2004, 05:01:00 PM
Post by: nemt on November 19, 2004, 05:18:00 PM
Post by: blueshogun96 on November 19, 2004, 05:30:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Liberals have all the sympathy in the world for terrorists, |
Liberals generally have sympathy for everything, including immoral practice.
Post by: Maximumbeing on November 19, 2004, 05:49:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| If he was shot by us, then more than likely he had a gun, or was threating the troops in some way correct? |
At the time that he was shot point-blank, he no longer had a weapon. So it was kinda like marching into a hospital and picking off a child with cancer.
So why do you conservatives hate children with cancer?
| QUOTE |
| okay we lock you in a room with an injured (not really bad, just as much as that one) and give you a gun. what are you going to do? he's eventually gonna kill you, or you can kill him.... make your choice |
If someone is lieing on the floor injured, with a bullet wound in his arm or leg or whatever, I'm not so worried about him kicking my ass or killing me. Then again, I can totally understand some Top-Gun marine wanting to look good for the cameras, so he wastes a few Iraqis, all in good sport.
Post by: EverythingButAnAnswer on November 19, 2004, 06:06:00 PM
| QUOTE (Maximumbeing @ Nov 20 2004, 02:52 AM) |
| At the time that he was shot point-blank, he no longer had a weapon. So it was kinda like marching into a hospital and picking off a child with cancer. So why do you conservatives hate children with cancer? If someone is lieing on the floor injured, with a bullet wound in his arm or leg or whatever, I'm not so worried about him kicking my ass or killing me. Then again, I can totally understand some Top-Gun marine wanting to look good for the cameras, so he wastes a few Iraqis, all in good sport. |
Spinless bleeding heart liberal.
You must cure weak liberalism with strong nationalism. Aren't liberals for euthanasia? How do you know that child with cancer didn't want to die? Why else would he be in the hospital, wasting away, and not out enjoying the last few moments of his life? 
Post by: cromat44 on November 20, 2004, 12:29:00 AM
| QUOTE (Maximumbeing @ Nov 19 2004, 05:52 PM) |
| At the time that he was shot point-blank, he no longer had a weapon. So it was kinda like marching into a hospital and picking off a child with cancer. So why do you conservatives hate children with cancer? If someone is lieing on the floor injured, with a bullet wound in his arm or leg or whatever, I'm not so worried about him kicking my ass or killing me. Then again, I can totally understand some Top-Gun marine wanting to look good for the cameras, so he wastes a few Iraqis, all in good sport. |
except that child isn't 100% focused on fucking you up, killing your family and all other americans
Post by: Ronnie on November 20, 2004, 01:18:00 AM
Then to be conservative you must be stupid...
There is nothing wrong with liberal or conservative and I think you can be both.No one agrees one everything so most people are a little of both.
Why use the word liberal as if it were an insult?
Liberal-
a. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
b. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded
Doesnt sound bad to me.
Post by: EvilWays on November 20, 2004, 01:54:00 AM
| QUOTE (nemt @ Nov 18 2004, 05:09 PM) |
| The main reason? |
Thank you, it's great to be here!
Post by: EverythingButAnAnswer on November 20, 2004, 12:54:00 PM
| QUOTE (Ronnie @ Nov 20 2004, 10:21 AM) |
| Liberal- a. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. b. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded Doesnt sound bad to me. |
Post by: nemt on November 20, 2004, 04:12:00 PM
Post by: Ronnie on November 20, 2004, 05:19:00 PM
Post by: cromat44 on November 20, 2004, 11:21:00 PM
ITS FUCKING WAR! THATS WHAT HAPPENS!
Post by: The unProfessional on November 28, 2004, 03:48:00 PM
Interesting...
Post by: nemt on November 28, 2004, 05:19:00 PM
"Oh, I guess that justifies it."
Post by: bluedeath on November 28, 2004, 06:12:00 PM
| QUOTE (HeLiuM @ Nov 25 2004, 03:41 PM) |
| So we're at war again? Military tortures iraqi detainees, it's okay! they aren't POW, we're not at war! Military shoots unarmed iraqis, it's okay! we're at war, people die! make up your goddamn minds. When they kill contracted Americans who are willingly (and knowingly) going into a very dangerous area, it's an atrocity, a war crime! Soldier shoots a few unarmed Iraqi's, they were just getting what was coming to them? What was that about terrorists? We helped make the rules of war in a period of strong self righteousness, of course we'd be completely willing to break them in a war we started. Don't get me wrong, I agree completely! Given a millenia that man could be responsible for some 20 generations of Iraqi immoral sons of bitches who all are 100% intent on destroying all that we know (we know these things. We're just that good.) |
Excellent post
Post by: EverythingButAnAnswer on November 28, 2004, 06:31:00 PM
| QUOTE (bluedeath @ Nov 29 2004, 03:15 AM) | ||
Excellent post |
Excellent quote
Post by: Baner on November 30, 2004, 11:22:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| When they kill contracted Americans who are willingly (and knowingly) going into a very dangerous area, it's an atrocity, a war crime! Soldier shoots a few unarmed Iraqi [fighers], they were just getting what was coming to them? What was that about terrorists? |
I would have agreed with this point, if you hadn't left out one key point (added in bold above).
The contracted American workers who go over to Iraq, do so knowing their lives are in danger, but not to hurt any Iraqi's. While this certain iraqi did have the intent to kill American soldiers. This Iraqi had been in a fire fight with the soldiers in question ealier, this being the way he recieved his injuries. So the iraqi was armed, is dangerous, and has the intent to kill the soldiers. I would have agreed with the point above, if you hadn't left out that one detail.
Post by: tupac on November 30, 2004, 09:40:00 PM
Quote from: EverythingButAnAnswer,Nov 29 2004, 02:34 AM
Excellent post
Post by: EverythingButAnAnswer on November 30, 2004, 09:56:00 PM
| QUOTE (tupac @ Dec 1 2004, 06:43 AM) |
| Excellent quote [/QUOTE] You're an idiot. edit:fuck it didnt work  |
Oh the irony.
Post by: bluedeath on November 30, 2004, 11:38:00 PM
| QUOTE (EverythingButAnAnswer @ Dec 1 2004, 06:59 AM) |
| You're an idiot. edit:fuck it didnt work [/QUOTE]Oh the irony. |
Post by: tupac on December 01, 2004, 12:31:00 AM
Post by: Baner on December 01, 2004, 12:03:00 PM
Post by: SKoT on December 07, 2004, 09:30:00 AM
If i was there i would shoot anything before it even had a chance of hurting me. anyone.
Post by: Maximumbeing on December 07, 2004, 12:31:00 PM
Shooting people in the head doesn't disarm bombs or mines anyway...
Post by: FektionFekler on December 07, 2004, 02:28:00 PM
Post by: pegasys on December 07, 2004, 02:53:00 PM
Post by: FektionFekler on December 07, 2004, 03:09:00 PM
Post by: SKoT on December 07, 2004, 03:52:00 PM
| QUOTE (pegasys @ Dec 7 2004, 11:56 PM) |
| I'm not really so much against what happened, it just that "America" flipps out if someting similar happens to us. What a bunch of fucking hypocrits we are. |
if you dont like it, leave.
and i dont follow wtf you said anyway... america did flip out over this, how many US injured soldiers do you think an Iraqi has put a bullet in?
Post by: Maximumbeing on December 08, 2004, 12:40:00 PM