Post by: dietrite on October 12, 2004, 01:28:00 PM
Steve Harvey Revokes Eminem's 'Ghetto Pass,' Video Pulled From BET
By Latisha Simmons
Date: 10/12/2004 2:37 pm
Michael Jackson called in on Los Angeles radio station 100.3 this morning (October 12th) to voice his disapproval of the new Eminem video for his song "Just Lose It.
In the video, Eminem plays the characters of Jackson, Madonna & MC Hammer and others.
The video shows scenes of Eminem dressed as Jackson sitting on a bed with children jumping around him.
With Jackson's recent troubles, the scenes are hitting a little too close to home for the King of Pop.
"I never had a problem with Eminem, Jackson said during The Steve Harvey Morning Show.
Harvey also voiced his disgust with the rapper.
"Eminem has lost his ghetto pass, Harvey declared. We want the pass back."
Harvey said that he was displeased at the way Eminem chose to depict the black community.
He added that rappers who are afraid to say something because they dont want to jeopardize their own careers are "cowards."
"You [Eminem] apologized about the comments you made before about us being ni**ers and calling black women b**ches but we don't want your apology now", Harvey fumed.
In a bombshell revelation, Harvey stated that Bob Johnson, Founder and CEO of BET has decided to pull the video from BETs rotation and will not be playing it again.
Johnson also called The Steve Harvey morning show and confirmed the video has been pulled from the BET airwaves.
Johnson is expected to release a statement later today about this issue.
Harvey also stated that MTV and VH1 should follow suit and pull the video as well.
Post by: dietrite on October 12, 2004, 01:34:00 PM
you got to give him credit
Post by: thomes08 on October 12, 2004, 02:08:00 PM
thomes08
Post by: Mr. Chips on October 12, 2004, 02:55:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| "You [Eminem] apologized about the comments you made before about us being ni**ers and calling black women b**ches but we don't want your apology now", Harvey fumed. |
In Eminem's defense, he never said it that way. That "comment" was from a tape he made when he was 14 and had just broken up with a black girl. If we were all held accountable or a lot of the stupid stuff we did as kids, we'd be in serious trouble.
I love the video, it's hilarious, how it became black vs. white is unknown. BET seems racist anyways. Anyone who favours censoring this type of material must have other reasons for doing so. They probably beleive that it could cause trouble for the fans who are mostly pro-Jackson.
Get a life people.
Then this Harvey guy says Eminem was granted a "ghetto pass"? How so? I guess that skin color DOES come before talent!
BET are a bunch of racists trying to divide America even more.
Post by: gcskate27 on October 12, 2004, 03:04:00 PM
Post by: dietrite on October 12, 2004, 03:26:00 PM
@ steve harvey for making this into a black & white thing. other rappers, comedians, tv shows, late night shows, etc.. have "dissed" on michael jackson, why is it wrong when eminem does? and on top of that BET actually pulls the video and steve harvey urges mtv & vh1 to do the same.
Post by: shanafan on October 12, 2004, 09:12:00 PM
Post by: brandogg on October 12, 2004, 09:21:00 PM
Post by: EverythingButAnAnswer on October 12, 2004, 09:36:00 PM
Post by: The unProfessional on October 12, 2004, 10:24:00 PM
Post by: gcskate27 on October 13, 2004, 12:13:00 AM
| QUOTE (brandogg @ Oct 12 2004, 09:24 PM) |
| gcskate, you just insulted a ton of people. You're obviously white. |
was this sarcasm?
but yeah i am white... can tell by my avatar...
Post by: The unProfessional on October 13, 2004, 02:21:00 AM
if someone tells a joke that ISN'T racial, the crowd tilts their heads and stares in confusion.
edit: typo
Post by: brandogg on October 13, 2004, 08:50:00 AM
Post by: gcskate27 on October 13, 2004, 12:26:00 PM
Post by: Baner on October 13, 2004, 12:32:00 PM
I still wanna know why I'll get sued if I make a HWCMA18-24EC (Healthy White Christian Aged 18-24 Entertainment Channel). Why is the Majority always getting screwed over like the Minority used to? Damn equal rights movement.
Post by: brandogg on October 13, 2004, 12:36:00 PM
Post by: Baner on October 13, 2004, 12:40:00 PM
Post by: gcskate27 on October 13, 2004, 02:17:00 PM
| QUOTE (brandogg @ Oct 13 2004, 12:39 PM) |
| Both. You said you can't imagine anyone intelligent watching BET. That's basically saying you think their entire audience is stupid, basically insulting the black population, because it consists mainly of them. |
thats not what im saying at all... these are the kinds of arguments you get when you have an all-something channel... do you really believe all black people watch bet? or even only black people are supposed to watch it?
Post by: brandogg on October 13, 2004, 03:24:00 PM
Post by: gcskate27 on October 13, 2004, 03:59:00 PM
i wouldnt say that as its not what i think, bet however has fairly low-brow shows that i cant imagine anyone intelligent, regardless of race, watching...
Post by: Ronnie on October 13, 2004, 04:15:00 PM
Ive heard his song that the source put out from when he was younger and he doesnt say nigger.He says some dumb shit about black girls and they only want you for your money.Thats all.Every rapper out says bitches so this dumbass from BET should shut the hell up about that.But again I say he never used that word in any song he made.
Post by: The unProfessional on October 14, 2004, 08:44:00 PM
| QUOTE |
I wonder what Dr.'s stance on all this shit is. |
Dre loves it... he's always known that enimem was controversial, and since Dre is as greedy as the rest, he welcomes all of it.
Post by: blueshogun96 on October 15, 2004, 06:14:00 PM
| QUOTE (gcskate27 @ Oct 12 2004, 11:07 PM) |
| who watches bet anyway? i cant imagine anyone intelligent watching it... comicview is the worst show ever... every comic saying the exact same thing and not actually making jokes, just being loud and running around on stage/falling on the floor... utter shit... |
I don't mean to be racist, but that is what I would expect a white person to say. Obviously black people watch it. BET stands for Black Entertainment Television. I'm not saying white people can't watch it, but hey, you get the idea, right. Lucky for you, this is a forum and not a bar full of black people because you would either be hurt or dead, seriously. And don't forget there ARE black people in this forum. I don't care for BET myself, but don't you EVER insult the ones who watch it. Most of the things you say make sense, but today you are unreasonable.
EDIT: And another thing, it's not all about the rap music, watch it on a sunday...
| QUOTE |
| I know a fairly large group of Wiggers that watch that channel, and I doubt you'll find a successful Black Business Man (ie CEO) watching Bet on a regular basis. |
Baner, this the first time I have ever disagreed with you. Do you know every CEO in the world!? But I can't imagine a CEO watching it either.
| QUOTE |
| BET is EXTREMELY racist. Everything is black and white. It's funny how they have all these rap videos that glorify violence and sex, use the N-word repeatedly even thought it's bleeped out AND promote drug use. Nothing wrong with Mary-J but still. these videos are on heavy rotation when young people are watching them. I bet Steve Harvey wouldn't pull those videos even though they are doing more harm to the black community then a retarded Eminem video. More examples of racism can be heard on ComicView. Just turn that on and EVERY joke is aimed at making white people look weak and retarded. I know they bust on themselves but I know for a fact you wouldn't have a white comedian on comedy central busting on black people like that. Oh and one last thing, alot of veiwers of a particular channel/station log onto and participate in the community forums and it's no different at BET. If you wanna see out and out racism, with topics like "why do white women wanna be black" and "why white people scurry away from sunlight", then just roll on over and check that out. As far as the rest of the programming, they show lots of movies with black people in them yes, and I know that it's aimed at the black community but again as with the video's; they glorify violence/sex/drugs. There aren't really too many shows they have that are original and don't glorify all the things I mentioned above. |
I REALLY disagree with you.
200 almost 300 years of racism against black people, eventually, the tables will turn and they are now. Racism is not dead. The KKK has not gone anywhere. White people have a lot of nerve to feel discriminated against. Yeah, I know not all of you are racist. But who hasn't used the term nigga or jigabu(SP?) I'm not talking about saying it out loud, thinking it. Face it, revenge is sweet.
Post by: gcskate27 on October 15, 2004, 09:28:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| But who hasn't used the term nigga or jigabu(SP?) I'm not talking about saying it out loud, thinking it. Face it, revenge is sweet. |
ive never used those words, and i dont think them... but guess how many times ive been called 'white boy'? you cant bitch about racism and discrimination if youre a part of it...
Post by: blueshogun96 on October 16, 2004, 10:40:00 AM
Post by: mike96sc2 on October 16, 2004, 11:00:00 AM
Post by: The unProfessional on October 16, 2004, 03:30:00 PM
I love how every discussion on racism always somehow justifies racism towards white people, solely due to the fact that racism towards african americans is rooted deeper in american history. Hello, all you jesse jackson followers, the door swings both ways. If you cast hatred of any kind, you're doing nothing to fight racism. You're breeding it.
BET represents a voluntary segregation and by no means is positive in the fight against racism. Tell me how, in any way, BET is good for the black community. If there was all-white programming, you wouldn't find me watching it. i'd recognize that segregated entertainment is no better than segregated restrooms and drinking fountains. I'd also be completely aware that I'm watching heavily biased programming created by zealots with a seriously self-righteous agenda.
Post by: Mr. Chips on October 16, 2004, 04:03:00 PM
from sohh.com .
Pee Wee To Sue Eminem
Only days after Michael Jackson threatened to sue Eminem, Paul "Pee Wee Herman" Reubens is rumored to be preparing a lawsuit of his own. Rubens is one of many characters spoofed in Slim's "Just Lose it" video. The clip was recently pulled off BET after Jackson's complaints. Word is that Reubens is scheduled to press charges later this week.
Post by: Jimhawk on October 16, 2004, 04:22:00 PM
Anyways, back to Eminem. I'm happy something (yet again) has caused controversy related to him. It's awakening people to the discrimination present in our society. Anyways, not all of his songs are racist, and those ones are actually not bad. And Michael Jackson is strange anyways. He used to be cool--USED to be. But now he's not. Jackson still doesn't deserve the view society has placed on him. He made a few bad choices in the interest of gaining fame and fans. All stars do that. They gain fame, love it, and never want to let it go. Just like Eminem causes controversy, loves it, and never stops wreaking it.
Post by: Mr. Chips on October 16, 2004, 04:36:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| I'm fortunate enough to be one of those people who isn't a target of much racism (Asian) |
I 'm glad you are not affected by racism. It's hard to avoid it, really.
cuz I know in Canada, if you ever visit Vancouver... there is such a massive Asian population they are definately subject of racism. The city itself earned the name "Hongcouver"... really our second language in Canada should be Chinese, instead of French, and I say that with honesty since it would be more useful to know here, especilaly in BC.
Post by: AckBoy on October 19, 2004, 12:07:00 AM
Hey I am black Jamaican guy who grew up in Tampa, hows it going guys. WEEEEEEEELL I agree with flipping off fingers guy, don't know your name don't feel like checking, BET IS CRAP! BET is just a bunch of stereotypes running around, giving only one view of black people. I think you had a very good argument and don't think your racist. ComicView SUCKS! If you want real Black comedy get "Never Scared" by Chris Rock.
When people talk about black people and staying poor and not doing anything about it. Think how many stories of trailer park white people making it out and going to Yale? About as many stories you hear about black people. Its possible to break the cycle but time has proven poor people will usually stay poor and rich people will usually stay rich. Our government made sure a big percentage of black people were poor in the past and its a hard cycle to break.
As for Irish and Italians that were poor, they started illegal organizations, made money got power and stayed their. Come on you know its true. JFK's father and grandfathers were bootleggers, the crack dealers of their day. But now that black people are trying to do that, they get big time and make sure black people stay broke, be realistic. Do you really think they delt with mobsters the same way they deal with black gangsters? COME ON! They see blacks and hispanics getting money they want to stop it at all cost.
As for blacks seperating themselves...If my family Raped, killed, and beat up your grandparents and parents then said HEY your cool, come on over and you can hang out with me....would you really trust me? Probably not, so as for all these black organizations they were created because white people didn't let them into theirs and you think that now that they do they are gonna drop it and run to that crap, nope be realistic, its pride man.
In the end who cares? Most of the white kids on this board will always be afraid of big black guys, and I will always be afraid of red pick ups filled with rednecks. Nothing you can do about it. No matter how much people say they aren't racists...they always will be. America is a racist country and it will take drastic reform to ever end it, which will never happen.
Lets get back to modding Xbox's where no one is a race and we all love each other...Group Hug!BTW all you long post writing people I didn't feel like reading them...maybe I just said what you said.
Post by: melon on October 19, 2004, 03:29:00 AM
There is so much bullshit about only white people can be racist. I have suffered racism from asians and blacks (im white). I have been the only white guy in a hip hop club when i am with a group of friends, whenever i was seperated from them (bar, toilet), I have been severely intimidated to the point were i have had to leave.
Some Asian friends wouldnt even let me come on certain nights out because I would get killed.
Point is minorities suffer too much shit. I can understand why an asian or african are racist they put up with crap every day. Think about how many people they meet a day who are racist and will give them shit!
I have seen a gang of black kids causing trouble at night and people have commented about "darkies" being badly behaved. Thing is you see white kids doing exactly the same, only then its a class issue not a colour one and thats just bullshit.
Some problems come from minority communities that want to keep a sense of identity which is fair enough, but usually this involves creating divisions and highliting differences when all sides should be concentrating on similarities. Untill white peoples attitudes change i dont blame minority communities from withdrawing, I would as well under the same cicumstance.
Post by: blueshogun96 on October 19, 2004, 09:35:00 AM
Anyway, I just want to apologize again. Sorry for yelling. I admit alot of the things I said were wrong and unnecissary.
EDIT: melon, you are very right. Racism comes in all colors and forms. It's not just against one kind, but them all.
Post by: Baner on October 19, 2004, 10:55:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| Pee Wee To Sue Eminem |
Cause Eminem creating a spoof of Pee-Wee is going to bring Pee-Wee's career down the drain, eh?
Post by: DasWaffenSS on October 19, 2004, 03:55:00 PM
Post by: gcskate27 on October 19, 2004, 08:21:00 PM
Post by: blueshogun96 on October 21, 2004, 10:50:00 AM
Post by: gcskate27 on October 21, 2004, 01:09:00 PM
| QUOTE (dietrite in the first post in this thread) |
| In a bombshell revelation, Harvey stated that Bob Johnson, Founder and CEO of BET has decided to pull the video from BETs rotation and will not be playing it again. |
| QUOTE (Mr Chips in the 4th post) |
| BET seems racist anyways |
both were posted before me and neither one go off topic, nor does my post... your responses calling me a racist however, do... so i guess you are correct if you mean that it was my posts that casued you to go offtopic...
Post by: Baner on October 21, 2004, 02:30:00 PM
I'm still gonna make my Majority channel one of these days, prolly get sued to hell'n back, but it'll make a point none-the-less.
Post by: melon on October 21, 2004, 02:43:00 PM
Its so funny you used to have midgets bouncing on a trampoline reading the weather or topless darts (not with midgets).
Post by: gcskate27 on October 21, 2004, 07:09:00 PM
Post by: blueshogun96 on October 22, 2004, 02:29:00 PM
| QUOTE (gcskate27 @ Oct 21 2004, 09:12 PM) |
| pssst both were posted before me and neither one go off topic, nor does my post... your responses calling me a racist however, do... so i guess you are correct if you mean that it was my posts that casued you to go offtopic... |
Yeah, you are right.
And for the third time I'm sorry for calling you a racist.
Post by: iranhasblts on October 23, 2004, 10:33:00 PM
Post by: drunkmunk on October 24, 2004, 02:15:00 PM
At least acne waits until the kid is 13 to come on their face....
is this thing on? hello? tough crowd tonight... try the veal folks and leave your ghetto passes at the door
Post by: Ronnie on November 01, 2004, 01:38:00 AM
| QUOTE (xbox beat box @ Oct 14 2004, 02:26 PM) |
| Thats not true, he did say Ni**er and did call black women bitches. I heard an old freestyle done by him, this was before Dre. picked him up. He was saying ni**ger this and ni**ger that, saying he would never date a black woman because all black women are bitches. It was a terrible recording but it was him. I wonder what Dr.'s stance on all this shit is. |
Like I said he never said nigger in any song.
The song about the black bitches was made after his black boo broke up with him.Its called "Foolish Pride" if you wanna hear it.
"Blacks and whites, they sometimes mix / But black girls only want your money, 'cause they're dumb chicks,"
"Never date a black girl, because blacks only want your money / And that sh!t ain't funny."
I dont believe you heard the song cus it doesnt go nigger this and nigger that like you claim.The word nigger has never come out of Eminems mouth onto any released track.
Ive heard so many of his songs and I can say its a fact he has yet to say it.
Also I think its women in general who are bitches to rappers,they really dont say blacks or whites but all women.
Anyway Steve Harvey aint funny and he still listens to Michael Jackson,what a dumbass.