Post by: Gonzo_PhD on September 20, 2004, 05:48:00 AM
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Post by: gcskate27 on September 20, 2004, 07:30:00 AM
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| Many key members of the Bush administration believe they are playing out armageddon |
do you have any sources for this claim? ive never heard anything about this...
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| With US arsenals of mass destruction in the hands of politicians with a simplistic good/evil us/them approach to the globe, we are fluffed. |
while im not the biggest fan of the bush administration and ill agree that the iraq debacle was a pretty fucked idea, i do give them enogh credit to know that its not the best idea to just toss around nukes...
Post by: Intensecure on September 20, 2004, 08:43:00 AM
The author is a very left-wing, Guardian reading, liberal green type - so of course I agree totally with what he says
But even if there is only a fragment of truth in the subject, it is a scary thing indeed in the age of weapons of mass destruction.
Many leaders in past eras have had apocalyptic visions, but none have had the means at their disposal - until now
Sleep tight.
Post by: Arvarden on September 21, 2004, 06:43:00 AM
A conference to plan the future of the American nuclear arsenal, including the development of so-called mini-nukes, is being held this week at StratCom, the headquarters of US Strategic Command in Nebraska.
The Bush administration appears determined to build a new generation of small nuclear weapons, especially "earth penetrators", designed to attack nuclear, chemical or biological materials buried deep underground.
http://news.bbc.co.u...cas/3126141.stm
http://www.newscient...p?id=ns99993414
Post by: nemt on September 21, 2004, 06:47:00 AM
Post by: nemt on September 21, 2004, 06:59:00 AM
Post by: Arvarden on September 21, 2004, 01:25:00 PM
I guess you've heard about the bible code and Michael Drosnin? To cut a long story short Bush invited Michael Drosnin to breif him on possible future events.
Now there is no cast iron proof of Bush believing in the book of Revelations but Bush's deep connection to the Christian fundamentalist right is well documented.
John Ashcroft has also expressed his belief in the Book of Revelations.
Post by: gcskate27 on September 21, 2004, 08:34:00 PM
if thats not what you meant, i apologise, but it is what you wrote...
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| Many key members of the Bush administration believe they are playing out armageddon |
Post by: Intensecure on September 21, 2004, 11:33:00 PM
We are getting closer, as these key and truly awful events signify:
32 Mark of the Beast:
The push to replace bar codes product labels with radio tags
has upgraded this category.
WTF?
33 Beast Government:
EU leaders agree on a new draft constitution.
34 The Antichrist:
The EU is looking a new President.
I'm guessing the rapture crowd is slightly anti-European?
And of course there are the undisputed (
) facts such as:24 Persia (Iran):
Iran continues to advance on its nuclear weapons programs.
Well, I would want nukes if I had the US playing god next door. And if in biblical terms we should still call it Persia - then what should we call the modern construct that is the USA, which doesn't get much of a mention in the bible despite the Presidents, and some of the citizens fervent belief that "god blesses America".
Truly inane stuff.
I think that the people named, such as GWB and Ashcroft are far too savvy to really believe this guff. They simply use it, as they use most things, for their own furtherance and gain. If 15% of Americans want to act like the world is ending, well that might be good for the pocketbooks of those who would take advantage of religious stupidity - and there are plenty of those in the US. As it states on the website - "Even So, Come Lord Jesus!" Yeah, right.
Post by: Arvarden on September 22, 2004, 05:57:00 AM
Thats right but isn't it worrying that the people who may beleive in this are actually in power with WMD's and manpower at there disposal. If you and me believe in the prophecy it wouldn;t make much difference as we are not at the helm.
I'm pretty sure there as been a few docs on uk national tv covering this issue but there is no cast iron proof.
All I'm asking for is your opinion on the matter.
A few things are starting to fall into place such as westerner's buying real estate in Esdraelon in Northern Israel which is also described as Jezreel or the valley of Megiddo to get a front row seat for the end of days.
A new TV/radio(?) station has been launched in Israel dedicated to the armageddon theory.
GWB meeting with Michael Drosnin.
GWB illegal invasion of Babylon.
GWB proposssed mini nukes.
GWB stance with Iran with them openly admitting they are trying to build a nuclear arsenal to protect themselves from a possible invasion from the US.
A few other people who believe in the armageddon theory:
Arafat
Reagan
I'm pretty sure the above 2 peoples beliefs are well documented. So to say no one in the US government believes in this cock and bull story is nieve to say the least.
Btw GC I'm not calling you nieve.
Post by: nemt on September 22, 2004, 08:38:00 AM
Post by: gcskate27 on September 22, 2004, 10:44:00 AM
Post by: Baner on September 22, 2004, 12:18:00 PM
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| GWB illegal invasion of Babylon. |
What does it being legal have to do with the end of the world? even if it was legal, it could spark "armageddon"
Post by: Arvarden on September 22, 2004, 01:56:00 PM
Tuesday April 20, 2004
The Guardian
"We can laugh at these people, but we should not dismiss them. That their beliefs are bonkers does not mean they are marginal. American pollsters believe that 15-18% of US voters belong to churches or movements which subscribe to these teachings. A survey in 1999 suggested that this figure included 33% of Republicans. The best-selling contemporary books in the US are the 12 volumes of the Left Behind series, which provide what is usually described as a "fictionalised" account of the Rapture (this, apparently, distinguishes it from the other one), with plenty of dripping details about what will happen to the rest of us. The people who believe all this don't believe it just a little; for them it is a matter of life eternal and death.
And among them are some of the most powerful men in America. John Ashcroft, the attorney general, is a true believer, so are several prominent senators and the House majority leader, Tom DeLay. Mr DeLay (who is also the co-author of the marvellously named DeLay-Doolittle Amendment, postponing campaign finance reforms) travelled to Israel last year to tell the Knesset that "there is no middle ground, no moderate position worth taking"
http://www.guardian....1195568,00.html
Post by: Arvarden on September 23, 2004, 06:41:00 AM
Post by: Arvarden on September 23, 2004, 03:25:00 PM
Post by: pug_ster on September 23, 2004, 03:44:00 PM
| QUOTE (Arvarden @ Sep 23 2004, 11:28 PM) |
| "As I said in my State of the Union, liberty is not America's gift to the world. Liberty is God's gift to every human being in the world. (Applause.) America has great challenges; challenges at home and challenges abroad. We're called to extend the promise of this country into the lives of every citizen who lives here. We're called to defend our nation and to lead the world to peace, and we will meet both challenges with courage and with confidence. (Applause.) There's an old saying, "Let us not pray for tasks equal to our strength. Let us pray for strength equal to our tasks." (Applause.) And that is our prayer "today, for the strength in every task we face. I want to thank each of you for your prayers. I want to thank you for your faithfulness. I want to thank you for your good work. And I want to thank you for loving your country. May God bless you all, and may God bless America. (Applause.)" http://www.whitehous...20030210-1.html Bush is not the first president to use Gods name in time of war, but his approach is different from his predecessors. May God bless you all |
Damn, my Sister-in-law is in Knoxville and they are voting for Bush. Now I know why!!!
Most presidents have a fine line between a Religious Sermin and a presidential speech. This guy has crossed the line.
Post by: zboy2004 on September 27, 2004, 01:07:00 PM
Post by: Baner on September 27, 2004, 01:16:00 PM
(Sorry about the flame, but highly needed.)
Post by: The unProfessional on September 27, 2004, 01:23:00 PM
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(Sorry about the flame, but highly needed.) |
<--- brought some kerosene
Post by: gcskate27 on September 27, 2004, 01:32:00 PM
| QUOTE (zboy2004 @ Sep 27 2004, 01:10 PM) |
| can i tell u one thing i cannot name who or how i no this as i do not wish 2 unravel the threads of time itself u are tredy dangerously here b forth warned ye are messing with something more powerful then u could ever imagine |
out of curiosity... are you a goth or in the drama club?
Post by: zboy2004 on September 27, 2004, 01:51:00 PM
i am from the ancient order of bamhikemador i hold the clues an keys to all the worldly questions u so preciously desire
when it is indeed u michael that have fallen down as u did no she was only 14 an no amount of forgivness can make up for u knowing that u are wrong my little wolf
Post by: Baner on September 27, 2004, 01:55:00 PM
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Post by: Maximumbeing on September 27, 2004, 02:30:00 PM
...and the natives there suck.
Post by: zboy2004 on September 27, 2004, 02:34:00 PM
oh an also i didnt send u any pm u idiot so wtf is ur go
Post by: Maximumbeing on September 27, 2004, 02:35:00 PM
Post by: The unProfessional on September 27, 2004, 02:38:00 PM
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rest of xbox scene is laughing there asses off at the usless political forum fags |
Really? Who might that be?
Actually, we're generally discussing real issues. But we do have fun engaging in useless conversion from time to time (such as this one). Have you failed to notice that the vast majority of useless conversation today began with "zboy2004"?
EDIT: Soon to come... another bogus proverb about wolves and sheep apparently roaming around the australian outback. Isn't weed great.
Post by: Baner on September 27, 2004, 02:39:00 PM
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Post by: SKoT on September 28, 2004, 08:15:00 AM
DEMONS WILL RIP OUT OUR SOULS AND EAT THEM!:!@LE@!
Post by: SKoT on September 28, 2004, 12:30:00 PM
Post by: Arvarden on October 21, 2004, 07:11:00 AM
Post by: Arvarden on October 25, 2005, 05:17:00 AM
Over the past few weeks or so I have been watching a TV documentary regarding the history of the Israel and Palestine conflict. Both party's speak frankly about the situation and leave the spin on the back shelf for once, anyone interested in getting a un biased political view point on the situation should watch the series. It is very interesting.
Here's a quick snap shot:
President George W Bush told Palestinian ministers that God had told him to invade Afghanistan and Iraq - and create a Palestinian State, a new BBC series reveals.
In Elusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs, a major three-part series on BBC TWO (at 9.00pm on Monday 10, Monday 17 and Monday 24 October), Abu Mazen, Palestinian Prime Minister, and Nabil Shaath, his Foreign Minister, describe their first meeting with President Bush in June 2003.
Nabil Shaath says: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq " And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"
Abu Mazen was at the same meeting and recounts how President Bush told him: "I have a moral and religious obligation. So I will get you a Palestinian state."
he series charts the attempts to bring peace to the Middle East, from President Bill Clinton's peace talks in 1999/2000 to Israel's withdrawal from Gaza last August.
Norma Percy, series producer of The 50 Years War (1998) returns, with producers Mark Anderson and Dan Edge, to tell the inside story of another seven years of crisis.
Presidents and Prime Ministers, their generals and ministers tell what happened behind closed doors as peace talks failed and the intifada exploded.
Israel and the Arabs: Elusive Peace - Mondays 10, 17 and 24 October, from 9.00 to 10.00pm on BBC TWO.
Post by: puckSR on October 25, 2005, 05:16:00 PM
anyone still wondering why seperation of church and state is a good thing?
If you havent figured it out, let me explain
Religion-absolutely right(at least in the religions view)
Politics-absolutely nothing is absolute
Theocracies have all suffered from the same problem, a completely inflexible belief system is impossible to incorporate into a political system that is fluid enough to change to meet the demands of the people.
Post by: xmedia2004 on October 25, 2005, 08:13:00 PM
I think I will move to Israel so my elected reprsentatives will actually give a fuck about me.
Post by: xmedia2004 on October 26, 2005, 07:36:00 AM
QUOTE(puckSR @ Oct 26 2005, 06:43 AM)
what makes you think that they care more?
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Title: Worrying Revelations
Post by: xmedia2004 on October 26, 2005, 10:36:00 PM
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Post by: xmedia2004 on October 26, 2005, 10:36:00 PM
QUOTE(puckSR @ Oct 26 2005, 06:10 PM)
First, Israel, the people are Israelis
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Title: Worrying Revelations
Post by: xboxbox451 on October 26, 2005, 11:15:00 PM
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Whats with all this armageddon talk?! What friggin bullshit! Yes, were seeing a bunch of natural disasters occur, but guess what, they've been occurring for millions, and millions of years. The only reason they appear to be cataclysmic in any sense is due to the explosion of human population.
Were simply inhabiting damn near every square inch of land. Particularly land that shouldn't even be built upon, i.e. islands, shore property, etc. Fuck, if you build your house at the edge of a volcano, don't think its an act of God when it gets buried in lava.
Combine our population explosion with a few back to back natural disasters, and add the super efficient media reporting it all, then hell yes it'll look as if the stories of old are coming true. But its nothing more than the earth doin its normal thang.
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Post by: hugoboss1 on October 27, 2005, 11:44:00 AM
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IM not sure were i read this (in the bible)but isnt the world supposed to end when there is 7 years of peace...because this conflict beetween the palestinians and jews has gone on forever..so if they decide to live together isnt that a real sign of the end of times....
as far as a coment posted about world population and natural disasters i cant agree..if you look close enought you will notice all the increadable world events in the past years that has to be taken seriously.
9/11
war in the middle east..a president talking about good vs evil
title waves thousands dead
record breaking hurincanes back to back years
earth quakes
i fear this is only the begining
next will probably be a war with iran
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Title: Worrying Revelations
Post by: xboxbox451 on October 27, 2005, 01:28:00 PM
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Post by: xboxbox451 on October 26, 2005, 11:15:00 PM
Were simply inhabiting damn near every square inch of land. Particularly land that shouldn't even be built upon, i.e. islands, shore property, etc. Fuck, if you build your house at the edge of a volcano, don't think its an act of God when it gets buried in lava.
Combine our population explosion with a few back to back natural disasters, and add the super efficient media reporting it all, then hell yes it'll look as if the stories of old are coming true. But its nothing more than the earth doin its normal thang.
Post by: hugoboss1 on October 27, 2005, 11:44:00 AM
as far as a coment posted about world population and natural disasters i cant agree..if you look close enought you will notice all the increadable world events in the past years that has to be taken seriously.
9/11
war in the middle east..a president talking about good vs evil
title waves thousands dead
record breaking hurincanes back to back years
earth quakes
i fear this is only the begining
next will probably be a war with iran
Post by: xboxbox451 on October 27, 2005, 01:28:00 PM
QUOTE(hugoboss1 @ Oct 27 2005, 02:55 PM)
as far as a coment posted about world population and natural disasters i cant agree..if you look close enought you will notice all the increadable world events in the past years that has to be taken seriously.
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Post by: hugoboss1 on October 27, 2005, 01:41:00 PM
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you have good points but i forgot to mention the so callled bird flu scare if this happens and it isnt controlled we are in trouble....and all this is in revelations
disease,disaters and wars.
i say just keep an open mind...science has always tried to explain the bibble and they havent been able to explain anything scientifically to date..
when you hear ad or bc (years) bc means before christ am i right...so when jesus died we started keeping time its been 2005 years since christ died..does that have any meaning to anyone..people are waiting for a return 2005 and counting.
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Post by: xmedia2004 on October 27, 2005, 01:56:00 PM
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Post by: hugoboss1 on October 27, 2005, 01:41:00 PM
disease,disaters and wars.
i say just keep an open mind...science has always tried to explain the bibble and they havent been able to explain anything scientifically to date..
when you hear ad or bc (years) bc means before christ am i right...so when jesus died we started keeping time its been 2005 years since christ died..does that have any meaning to anyone..people are waiting for a return 2005 and counting.
Post by: xmedia2004 on October 27, 2005, 01:56:00 PM
QUOTE(hugoboss1 @ Oct 27 2005, 09:52 PM)
you have good points but i forgot to mention the so callled bird flu scare if this happens and it isnt controlled we are in trouble....and all this is in revelations
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Post by: puckSR on October 27, 2005, 07:12:00 PM
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Now this is just nuts, why is John the Baptist Elijah? And does this mean that Harod was the first antichrist?
And, what? huh,
ahh well, at least i understand why people dont take you seriously
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Title: Worrying Revelations
Post by: xmedia2004 on October 27, 2005, 10:13:00 PM
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Post by: puckSR on October 27, 2005, 07:12:00 PM
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Elijah's spirit was returned as John the Baptist and was beheaded by the gentiles.
I wonder is the second saint amongst us today making war against the gentiles
This saint will only be captured and killed by the antichrist.
I wonder is the second saint amongst us today making war against the gentiles
This saint will only be captured and killed by the antichrist.
Now this is just nuts, why is John the Baptist Elijah? And does this mean that Harod was the first antichrist?
And, what? huh,
ahh well, at least i understand why people dont take you seriously
Post by: xmedia2004 on October 27, 2005, 10:13:00 PM
QUOTE(puckSR @ Oct 28 2005, 03:23 AM)
Yeah, maybe i read a different bible as a kid, but what the hell is all of this talk about Rapture?
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Post by: xmedia2004 on October 28, 2005, 06:22:00 PM
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Post by: xmedia2004 on October 28, 2005, 06:22:00 PM
QUOTE(puckSR @ Oct 28 2005, 08:19 AM)
Gotcha, so your throwing together a mix of questionable theology, and the book of revelations?
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Post by: lordvader129 on October 28, 2005, 09:05:00 PM
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Post by: lordvader129 on October 28, 2005, 09:05:00 PM
QUOTE(puckSR @ Oct 28 2005, 08:44 PM)
Christians are wrong, very very wrong. They think that there is a hell. They think that their immensely loving God would punish people for no apparent reason.-
Title: Worrying Revelations
Post by: lordvader129 on October 28, 2005, 10:21:00 PM
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Post by: lordvader129 on October 28, 2005, 10:21:00 PM
QUOTE(puckSR @ Oct 28 2005, 10:20 PM)
no the catholic concept of reconciliation stems from repentance.
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Title: Worrying Revelations
Post by: xmedia2004 on October 29, 2005, 07:22:00 AM
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Post by: xmedia2004 on October 29, 2005, 07:22:00 AM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Oct 29 2005, 05:16 AM)
now i have a question, by "cary the cross" do you mean the literal means of wearing a cross or carrying in your pocket? because god doesnt care what idolatrous objects and images you have with you in life
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Post by: dman7 on October 29, 2005, 08:55:00 PM
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Post by: xmedia2004 on October 30, 2005, 06:51:00 PM
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Post by: dman7 on October 29, 2005, 08:55:00 PM
QUOTE(Arvarden @ Sep 20 2004, 01:22 PM)
Post by: xmedia2004 on October 30, 2005, 06:51:00 PM
QUOTE(dman7 @ Oct 30 2005, 05:06 AM)
I don't believe that the Bush Admin. is playing out on armageddon, if anything they are probably trying to stop it. By trying to make Iraq democratic there will be less chance of it attacking Isreal, as the old Iraq was pro Palestinian and against Isreal. Now, if Iran get nukes and attacks Isreal that should be enough to see the Revelation is comeing. Also, it doesn't help any that Islam and Muslim faith is growing in Europe due to immigration and by the end of the decade is supposed to become Europe's main culture and religion.
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Post by: lordvader129 on October 30, 2005, 07:04:00 PM
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Post by: lordvader129 on October 30, 2005, 07:04:00 PM
QUOTE(xmedia2004 @ Oct 30 2005, 08:02 PM)
Gods answer for the antichrist
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Title: Worrying Revelations
Post by: MysteryRidah on November 01, 2005, 09:04:00 AM
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LOL, this thread. Its cool that you wanna talk about armageddon, but get the facts correct. Everybody aint going to heaven, from the bible viewpoint anyway.
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Post by: MysteryRidah on November 01, 2005, 09:05:00 AM
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And btw, armageddon is not a man's war, its the war between Jesus Christ and satan, and wickedness, everybody should know this by now.
This comment is not aim at the OP, but someone else in this thread who mention something related to that.
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Post by: lordvader129 on November 01, 2005, 09:13:00 AM
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Post by: MysteryRidah on November 01, 2005, 09:04:00 AM
LOL, this thread. Its cool that you wanna talk about armageddon, but get the facts correct. Everybody aint going to heaven, from the bible viewpoint anyway.
Post by: MysteryRidah on November 01, 2005, 09:05:00 AM
And btw, armageddon is not a man's war, its the war between Jesus Christ and satan, and wickedness, everybody should know this by now.
This comment is not aim at the OP, but someone else in this thread who mention something related to that.
Post by: lordvader129 on November 01, 2005, 09:13:00 AM
QUOTE(MysteryRidah @ Nov 1 2005, 09:16 AM)
And btw, armageddon is not a man's war, its the war between Jesus Christ and satan, and wickedness, everybody should know this by now.
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Post by: lordvader129 on November 01, 2005, 10:58:00 PM
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Post by: lordvader129 on November 01, 2005, 10:58:00 PM
QUOTE(puckSR @ Nov 1 2005, 10:51 PM)
Wow, it took real political ignorance to say that Russia is going to team up with the Middle East....
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Title: Worrying Revelations
Post by: xmedia2004 on November 02, 2005, 05:31:00 PM
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Post by: xmedia2004 on November 02, 2005, 05:31:00 PM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Nov 2 2005, 08:09 AM)
hey, it aint my theory, im just quoting the "experts" who are just following a theory from the cold war, which was "anything we do [support isreal] the russians will oppose us"
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Post by: hugoboss1 on November 03, 2005, 11:12:00 AM
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Post by: hugoboss1 on November 03, 2005, 11:12:00 AM
QUOTE(xmedia2004 @ Nov 2 2005, 08:42 PM)
I thought i was supposed to be afraid of the Chinese!
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Title: Worrying Revelations
Post by: hugoboss1 on November 04, 2005, 09:27:00 AM
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Post by: hugoboss1 on November 04, 2005, 09:27:00 AM
QUOTE(puckSR @ Nov 3 2005, 11:41 PM)
yeah hugo, if that happened then it wouldnt be the "sleeping giant", but the psycho who got ahold of his weapons.
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Post by: lordvader129 on November 04, 2005, 09:36:00 AM
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Post by: lordvader129 on November 04, 2005, 09:36:00 AM
QUOTE(hugoboss1 @ Nov 4 2005, 09:34 AM)
remember that cuba is huge and they have underground tunels..its very possible they still have tons of russian equipment maybe even a few sams.
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Title: Worrying Revelations
Post by: hugoboss1 on November 04, 2005, 09:52:00 AM
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pushing the button would be the easy part...getting the nuke is the problem.and who had nukes and needs money....money makes people do unthinkable things.
I mention cuba off subject because they got them from russia and there has to be one out of place somewhere or in hidding in a dark secret place.did we make sure that they were all accounted for i dont think so because we found out there were nukes when they were already aimed at us.
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Post by: lordvader129 on November 04, 2005, 11:21:00 AM
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Post by: hugoboss1 on November 04, 2005, 09:52:00 AM
I mention cuba off subject because they got them from russia and there has to be one out of place somewhere or in hidding in a dark secret place.did we make sure that they were all accounted for i dont think so because we found out there were nukes when they were already aimed at us.
Post by: lordvader129 on November 04, 2005, 11:21:00 AM
QUOTE(hugoboss1 @ Nov 4 2005, 09:59 AM)
pushing the button would be the easy part...getting the nuke is the problem.and who had nukes and needs money....money makes people do unthinkable things.
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Title: Worrying Revelations
Post by: puckSR on November 04, 2005, 03:25:00 PM
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Really, so what did Osama start his original jihad for?
Any aid that russia supplied was simply to cause instability in the region so that they would be able to control it more easily
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Title: Worrying Revelations
Post by: lordvader129 on November 04, 2005, 05:00:00 PM
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Post by: puckSR on November 04, 2005, 03:25:00 PM
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actually i found that soviet union provided good deal of aid to middle eastern countries, and most arab states liek and respect russia, so a military alliance isnt all that far fetched, really the only midle eastern country they arent on good terms with is saudi arabia
Really, so what did Osama start his original jihad for?
Any aid that russia supplied was simply to cause instability in the region so that they would be able to control it more easily
Post by: lordvader129 on November 04, 2005, 05:00:00 PM
QUOTE(puckSR @ Nov 4 2005, 03:32 PM)
Really, so what did Osama start his original jihad for?
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Post by: MysteryRidah on November 05, 2005, 01:53:00 PM
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Post by: MysteryRidah on November 05, 2005, 01:53:00 PM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Nov 1 2005, 05:20 PM)
actually, according to most interpretations of the bible, armageddon is the final decisive battle of WWIII, which the theory is will be russia with the arab nations against the US and isreal
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Title: Worrying Revelations
Post by: xmedia2004 on November 05, 2005, 05:36:00 PM
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Post by: xmedia2004 on November 05, 2005, 05:36:00 PM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Nov 1 2005, 05:20 PM)
actually, according to most interpretations of the bible, armageddon is the final decisive battle of WWIII, which the theory is will be russia with the arab nations against the US and isreal
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Title: Worrying Revelations
Post by: lordvader129 on November 05, 2005, 06:21:00 PM
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Post by: lordvader129 on November 05, 2005, 06:21:00 PM
QUOTE(xmedia2004 @ Nov 5 2005, 05:43 PM)
P.S. Lordvader Ethiopia is the oldest christian nation on the earth and some scholars believe Ethiopia to be the place where christ grew up whwn he fled the romans. .
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Post by: xmedia2004 on November 05, 2005, 09:03:00 PM
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Post by: xmedia2004 on November 05, 2005, 09:03:00 PM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Nov 6 2005, 02:28 AM)
and thats where they are hiding the ark of the covenant right? i saw that on the discovery channel