Post by: 67thRaptorBull on June 20, 2004, 02:55:00 PM
Post by: nemt on June 20, 2004, 03:01:00 PM
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on June 20, 2004, 03:41:00 PM
| QUOTE (Hoppy @ Jun 20 2004, 06:06 PM) |
| More importantly, how many people here have just barely a grasp on politics in general. |
well alot, just that certain people down play it by correcting their spelling
Post by: chefelf on June 20, 2004, 03:44:00 PM
| QUOTE (Hoppy @ Jun 20 2004, 07:06 PM) |
| At a party one night I overheard someone saying they were going to vote for Kerry based on the fact that they saw him snowboarding on TV. |
What dummies! I would only vote for him If I saw him beat my high score on Garabaldi in SSX Tricky.
Post by: iwinulose on June 20, 2004, 03:54:00 PM
lol
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on June 20, 2004, 04:00:00 PM
Post by: OrkanMan on June 24, 2004, 06:56:00 PM
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on June 24, 2004, 06:59:00 PM
| QUOTE (OrkanMan @ Jun 24 2004, 09:56 PM) |
| 67thRaptorBull: You've been in the whitehouse before? |
you must support bush, as its apperent he could qualify for retarded
did anyone see how he pronounced the prison (the one in iraq, with the tortures)
he called it abu grabif (or something along the lines, he put a clear "f" in it) and then stared at the camera for 7 seconds and then continued, knowing he didnt know how the fuck to say it
Post by: Banj on June 24, 2004, 11:01:00 PM
Post by: lordvader129 on June 24, 2004, 11:49:00 PM
of course only 8% of the voting populace shows up for congressional elections, then the other 92% whines about whos in office
Post by: Boba_Fett on June 25, 2004, 06:49:00 AM
| QUOTE (Banj @ Jun 25 2004, 08:01 AM) |
| Your counrty is a joke to the civilized world. |
ROFL... so we are a joke to, what: Japan, Canada, Australia, UK, and some of western Europe? Big deal
P.S.
I personally hope your little podunk country could experience something exactly like we went through with 9/11, maybe then you'd understand a smidgen of what we Yankee bastards think
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on June 25, 2004, 08:13:00 AM
| QUOTE (Boba_Fett @ Jun 25 2004, 09:49 AM) |
| ROFL... so we are a joke to, what: Japan, Canada, Australia, UK, and some of western Europe? Big deal P.S. I personally hope your little podunk country could experience something exactly like we went through with 9/11, maybe then you'd understand a smidgen of what we Yankee bastards think |
i live in the US, and you cant use 9/11 as an excuse anymore, as iraq had nothing to do with it, and 9/11 wasnt completely on the spur of a moment
your a jackass for even saying that
and yes, japan, canada, england and even france are all better countries then the US right now, as there not knee deep in a shit storm that was cuased by the most retarded president ever, who cant even pronounce a prison name thats been in the news for the last 3 months (thats shows he doesnt give a fuck)
like i said, your another ignorant jackass who wants to only say what he wants to hear, and feels 9/11 puts the US at the top for remorse, but yet you dont understand that the US has only been around for 229 years, and other countries (england, japan) have been around for centuries, and have seen far worse
o and ur forgetting, what country had 2 atomic bombs droppen on it.............the US, so if killing 5,000 by using a plane into a building is terrorism, so is dropping 2 atomic bombs on cities full of innocent people, so the US is a terrorists country then to.
Post by: Boba_Fett on June 25, 2004, 11:30:00 AM
Our President is retarded, huh? How do you get to be a self-made millionare, have the ability to fly fighter jets, and get elected President of the United States (these are just a few examples) by being one of mentally inferior capacity? So the man has a few speach problems, last time I checked, perfection doesn't exist in humans...
And what about 9/11 being "spur of the moment"? WTF are you talking about? Everyone knows the wack-ass Al Quedia have been planning that for awhile. About Iraq's connection with Al Quedia (SP? I dunno...), do YOU have any definitive proof that Saddam and company WASN'T in cahoots with them? No? Oh, thought so. I will err with the president on this as it seems highly logical that such happenings took place. But who really cares, right? You won't sway anyone to your twisted side and I won't be winning and converts over today... makes you wonder the point in arguing in the first place
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on June 25, 2004, 11:55:00 AM
| QUOTE (Boba_Fett @ Jun 25 2004, 02:30 PM) |
| Hmm... that's too bad. If you hate our country so much, why not leave? Oh, and about the atomic bomb thing, if you remember correctly (which you obviously don't), Japan BOMBED Pearl Harbor. In a combination of retaliation and something that would stop Japan COMPLETELY from ever attempting something like that against us again, we used our new atom bomb technology on Hiroshima and Nagasaki (two of Japan's biggest war weapon producing cities). The outcome actually probably saved 5x the amount of casualties that occured on that day considering our only other option after that was to storm Japan (killing tons and tons of Japs and Yanks in the process). That was no terrorist action and it makes my blood boil seeing ignorance on this subject. Our President is retarded, huh? How do you get to be a self-made millionare, have the ability to fly fighter jets, and get elected President of the United States (these are just a few examples) by being one of mentally inferior capacity? So the man has a few speach problems, last time I checked, perfection doesn't exist in humans... And what about 9/11 being "spur of the moment"? WTF are you talking about? Everyone knows the wack-ass Al Quedia have been planning that for awhile. About Iraq's connection with Al Quedia (SP? I dunno...), do YOU have any definitive proof that Saddam and company WASN'T in cahoots with them? No? Oh, thought so. I will err with the president on this as it seems highly logical that such happenings took place. But who really cares, right? You won't sway anyone to your twisted side and I won't be winning and converts over today... makes you wonder the point in arguing in the first place |
wow, you are ignorant, ill respond peice by peice, first with the most retarded statement of all
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| Our President is retarded, huh? How do you get to be a self-made millionare, have the ability to fly fighter jets, and get elected President of the United States |
by having a father with lots of power........hmm that explains that
next....
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| Hmm... that's too bad. If you hate our country so much, why not leave? Oh, and about the atomic bomb thing, if you remember correctly (which you obviously don't), Japan BOMBED Pearl Harbor. In a combination of retaliation and something that would stop Japan COMPLETELY from ever attempting something like that against us again, we used our new atom bomb technology on Hiroshima and Nagasaki (two of Japan's biggest war weapon producing cities). The outcome actually probably saved 5x the amount of casualties that occured on that day considering our only other option after that was to storm Japan (killing tons and tons of Japs and Yanks in the process). That was no terrorist action and it makes my blood boil seeing ignorance on this subject. |
reminds me of 9/11 (ill kill two birds with one stone) as the US could have easily stopped an attack on pearl harbor if they would have pulled their heads out of there asses, you dont just lose 3 carrier groups and not suspect something is up.....
and bombing wasnt the only option, it was either bomb, attack or blockade, so there were more actions.....and i like how you said an attack wouldnt be feasable, so we put american GI's lives ahead of innocent civilians
o and hiroshima and nagasaki were not the biggest military targets, they chose them because they did have military factories, yes, but also so they could show japan what kind of civilian damage itd do..........
next
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| And what about 9/11 being "spur of the moment"? WTF are you talking about? Everyone knows the wack-ass Al Quedia have been planning that for awhile. About Iraq's connection with Al Quedia (SP? I dunno...), do YOU have any definitive proof that Saddam and company WASN'T in cahoots with them? No? Oh, thought so. I will err with the president on this as it seems highly logical that such happenings took place. But who really cares, right? You won't sway anyone to your twisted side and I won't be winning and converts over today... makes you wonder the point in arguing in the first place |
ok, right off the bat, weres the proof sadaam was planning with the terrorists.......just because the president said so? the president also said he had WMD's, good call on that one
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| makes you wonder the point in arguing in the first place |
because i hate ignorant americans who want remorse for somethign that happened in the past, when other countries have had worse (ill say it again, japan and the atomic bombs, thats worse then a few planes, (and ill say this, because its the truth) at least the terrorists werent gutless and sacrficed there lives, instead of dropping a fe bombs from a plane on innocent civilians........)
there, i felt thats good enough, and controversial
Post by: Boba_Fett on June 25, 2004, 12:27:00 PM
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on June 25, 2004, 12:56:00 PM
| QUOTE (Boba_Fett @ Jun 25 2004, 03:27 PM) |
| My God, that is sick... I'm done replying in this thread. |
thank god, no more unvalid, bullposts
anyways, i didnt like the whole conclusion by the 9/11 commission, that the FAA was a cuase because of thier major delays, yes that was a major fault, but they needed to devulge more into the spy network, and information (CIA, etc)
but maybe i didnt watch it long enough to catch the whole conclusion
Post by: The unProfessional on June 25, 2004, 08:06:00 PM
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John Kerry will win by a landslide (as proven by the poll on the main site,) due to his probable running mate of Mickey Mouse. |
Not sure if I'm the first to say it. But it probably isn't very statistically accurate to judge a nations voting population by a poll on a video game forum
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Post by: 67thRaptorBull on June 25, 2004, 08:15:00 PM
| QUOTE (The unProfessional @ Jun 25 2004, 11:06 PM) |
| Not sure if I'm the first to say it. But it probably isn't very statistically accurate to judge a nations voting population by a poll on a video game forum . |
says who
Post by: The unProfessional on June 25, 2004, 09:32:00 PM
Post by: muerte on June 26, 2004, 06:59:00 AM
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| 67thRaptorBull This is quite the right wing conspiracy. Somebody hacked into the x-s main page and changed the poll. Even if this wasn't done by hackers, THIS IS JUST AN XBOX MODDING FORUM. |
Amazing... I can tell the future.
And now for some real facts:
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Gallup News Service "Bush and Kerry are essentially tied for the lead among likely voters" |
As you can see, this race is nowhere close to 40% Bush, 60% Kerry.
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on June 26, 2004, 08:20:00 AM
| QUOTE (muerte @ Jun 26 2004, 09:59 AM) |
| I'm going to go with the fact that the majority of hackers are liberal. I'd go by a more accurate polll.... hmmmm, maybe a SCIENTIFIC POLL?? I'm amazed at how 67thRaptorBull likes twisting the truth to serve his own purpose. For example, if this poll was not in Bush's favor, he'd be screaming Amazing... I can tell the future. And now for some real facts: As you can see, this race is nowhere close to 40% Bush, 60% Kerry. |
i really dont care who wins, either way the country is fucked
nice example though, it almost makes sense......
Post by: gronne on June 28, 2004, 11:27:00 AM
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About Iraq's connection with Al Quedia (SP? I dunno...), do YOU have any definitive proof that Saddam and company WASN'T in cahoots with them? No? Oh, thought so. |
Well, do YOU have any proof? You people even started a war, without anything looking like a proof. And it's pretty certain there is no connection whatsoever.
And how can you ever justify the fact that 2,403 american soldier's were killed in the attack of Pearl Harbor when the american retaliation-attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki murdered 200,000 INNOCENT people?
reference
Post by: nemt on June 28, 2004, 11:52:00 AM
| QUOTE (gronne @ Jun 28 2004, 04:27 PM) |
| And how can you ever justify the fact that 2,403 american soldier's were killed in the attack of Pearl Harbor when the american retaliation-attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki murdered 200,000 INNOCENT people? |
Becuase a land invasion of Japan would've cost more than 200,000 American lives.
War is violent, people, and in war, you need to play favorites - because lives are at stake.
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on June 28, 2004, 02:30:00 PM
| QUOTE (nemt @ Jun 28 2004, 02:52 PM) |
| Becuase a land invasion of Japan would've cost more than 200,000 American lives. War is violent, people, and in war, you need to play favorites - because lives are at stake. |
ok, but you cant make one life more valuable then the other because he is the one fighting it
with all due respect, an american GI's life is less valuable then an innocent Iraqi's life, as it was the GI's choice to go to war, and hes the one killing people, which no matter who he kills is morally wrong
and an invasion of japan wasnt the only option
they also had a blockade option, or test the atomic bomb on a remote island to show japan how bad it would fuck em up
trust me, dropping the bomb wasnt the last ditch effort, we just like to think it is, because as americans it makes us feel better knowing we me the "right"
decision
Post by: ahhh on June 28, 2004, 03:28:00 PM
-not implying that the US has supported any coup against any democratically elected socialist country or anything......
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on June 28, 2004, 04:09:00 PM
| QUOTE (ahhh @ Jun 28 2004, 06:28 PM) |
| -not implying that the US has supported any coup against any democratically elected socialist country or anything...... |
thats true, but they did stage a coup to put one in power *coughpanama=canalwhichgivestheusalotofmoneycough*
Post by: miazmaticdotcom on July 02, 2004, 02:31:00 AM
It looks like they're getting closer to nuking the Children's Online Protection Act, which makes me happy, because that was some major communist censorship unconstitutional crap. Porn for all!
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on July 02, 2004, 10:38:00 AM
can anyone guess who said that, ill give you a hint, hes illiterate, cant do shit on his own, drove this coutnry into the ground, and again, is illiterate
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on July 02, 2004, 12:19:00 PM
| QUOTE (Colonel32 @ Jul 2 2004, 02:32 PM) |
Enough already  He was a very average college student. Of course he can read... Your wasting bandwidth posting these generalizations and exaggerations. |
im sorry, he doesnt know how to form a coherrent sentence.....
there, thats the correct phrase
Post by: The unProfessional on July 02, 2004, 12:26:00 PM
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A poll which people from all over the world can vote in shouldn't have a good accuracy considering the rest of the world hates Bush and vote Kerry. But it definitely shows what people think of Bush. |
People from all over the world don't participate in our election. The argument was that you can't judge the outcome of the election based on a poll on X-S... it's a tiny sample set, and by no means represents the US population accurately. I was making a simple point... don't blow it out of proportion.
We know the world hates Bush... no poll needed there.
Post by: nemt on July 02, 2004, 12:28:00 PM
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on July 03, 2004, 08:47:00 AM
| QUOTE (nemt @ Jul 2 2004, 03:28 PM) |
| pssst: the rest of the world hated america before george hw bush were elected president. |
hmm, in a way thats true nemt and way to be very general on your statement, but i dont remember a hate strong enough to cuase 19 men to crash 4 planes into the US when any other president was in power................... (yes, clinton and the WTC bombings was strong, but the guys failed, meaning that didnt care enough)
Post by: Wolfblade12 on July 04, 2004, 05:37:00 AM
.Post by: nemt on July 04, 2004, 05:47:00 AM
Post by: Wolfblade12 on July 04, 2004, 08:43:00 AM
hahahhahah funny guy
Post by: Mozart.mp3 on July 05, 2004, 07:39:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| hmm, in a way thats true nemt and way to be very general on your statement, but i dont remember a hate strong enough to cuase 19 men to crash 4 planes into the US when any other president was in power................... (yes, clinton and the WTC bombings was strong, but the guys failed, meaning that didnt care enough) |
Because OBVIOUSLY those who did plan to attack the World Trade Center on 9/11 already knew years ago that Bush would become President and they waited until he was in office to do it. Wow buddy, you think they started planning it because of Bush, you're a fucking retard, never post here again.
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on July 05, 2004, 09:29:00 AM
| QUOTE (Mozart.mp3 @ Jul 5 2004, 10:39 AM) |
| Because OBVIOUSLY those who did plan to attack the World Trade Center on 9/11 already knew years ago that Bush would become President and they waited until he was in office to do it. Wow buddy, you think they started planning it because of Bush, you're a fucking retard, never post here again. |
i didnt say they planned it because of him being in office (hey jackass, bush was in office for almost a year, and within that time period he fucked up and pissed off alot of people)
i was referring to the fact that the actions of a president have never gotten people this pissed before, ie pissed enough to kick the shit out of the finacial and militarial stronghold of the US
Post by: Mozart.mp3 on July 05, 2004, 09:34:00 AM
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on July 05, 2004, 11:27:00 AM
| QUOTE (Mozart.mp3 @ Jul 5 2004, 12:34 PM) |
| Ok, you're obviously not getting it. The attack was being planned for at least 10 years before it actually took place. It's not like they all got together and made plans the year Bush came into office. The attack was GOING to happen no matter who was in office. Bush is doing a much better job than I believe Gore could have done in handling this situation. Since 9/11 how many terrorists have flown planes into the U.S. So obviously he is doing SOMETHING right. Just because some little kid posting on an X-Box forum dislikes the president, does not mean that he is a "retard". Which college did you go to again? That's what I thought. |
haha, wow, you seem to have me cornered, espacially with that whole college thing
wow, so he went to a good college, that doesnt mean shit when your daddy gets you into it and you get below average grades.
and whos to say gore wouldnt do a better job, bush is doing a terrible job
jesus, what the fuck does iraq and getting soldiers and innocent people killed have anything to do with terrorism? what about the current situation at home, he went from having a projected income of 5 trilllion (ie, when bush was in office) to a projected deficit of negative 5 trillion by 2010, thats good for us
do you have proof that the attacks were being planned for 10 years? (its a serious question, as id like to see it)??
i didnt see anybody trying to blow there fucking show up when clinton was president, and i didnt see the US killing innocent people in a cowboy war when clinton was in president, and i didnt see a peice of shit economy when clinton was president................... that tells you something
Post by: Mozart.mp3 on July 05, 2004, 11:34:00 AM
As for Bush ruining the economy, do you really think that wars are free? They they are so cheap you could start one with pcket change? He spends so much to fight the war to SAVE soldiers and innocent lives with better more accuracte weapon technology. If we went back to fighting wars like we did in WWI without spending money for more advancements, do you realize how many more people would have died? The casualty rates don't even COMPARE.
Post by: Mozart.mp3 on July 05, 2004, 11:35:00 AM
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on July 05, 2004, 12:55:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mozart.mp3 @ Jul 5 2004, 02:34 PM) |
| For starting I am going to go ahead and disregard except your statement about Bush and income because honestly. It is meaningless dribble and if you took one second to look at what you just said, you'd realize that you know absolutely nothing of what is going on. There IS proof that the attacking was being planned for more than 1 year, IDIOT. As for Bush ruining the economy, do you really think that wars are free? They they are so cheap you could start one with pcket change? He spends so much to fight the war to SAVE soldiers and innocent lives with better more accuracte weapon technology. If we went back to fighting wars like we did in WWI without spending money for more advancements, do you realize how many more people would have died? The casualty rates don't even COMPARE. |
ooooo yes, the typical, ignorant, dumb son of a bitch response
because hes fighting a war................
first off, ok, so the attacks might have been planned a year ahead, but like i asked, GIVE ME SOME PROOF, or did you miss that question on purpose???
second, wars do cost money, no shit, but its his fault, he didnt have to attack iraq, a country that didnt show any direct threat towards the US, it was his fault, so he fucked up
and the war itself doesnt cost all that money, but when you go around flinging billions and billions of aide towards a country that you fucked up, yes it does cost money
the war itself isnt even a majority of the money problem, and like i said, if it was, its still bushes and his administrations fault, they didnt need to go play cowboy, but they chose to
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on July 05, 2004, 12:56:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mozart.mp3 @ Jul 5 2004, 02:35 PM) |
| And Clinton wasn't fighting a fucking war moron. |
ooo no shit? i guess i was missing out on what was going on then
also, you cant compare WWII to today, as its different time periods and technology
"i guess if we fought like they did back in the middle ages wed lose alot of people"
derrrr
Post by: Mozart.mp3 on July 05, 2004, 01:12:00 PM
And yes, Iraq WAS a direct threat to the U.S. You had a leader that hated the U.S., killed his own people, that was harboring terrorists and nuclear weapons. How is that NOT a threat?
And where the fuck were you going with this statement? If you remember correctly, the U.S. still is SOMEWHAT civil. Our plan wasn't to invade Iraq and kill every single one of them unless they move to America. When we bombed Hiroshimo and Nagusaki we did the same thing. We AREN'T still in the middle ages and that's WHY we give them money to get the country back on track. We know the effect it would have on the country to leave them destroyed and in rubbles.
You OBVIOUSLY know NOTHING of politics and you seriously need to get a grip on reality. We don't live in a fantasy world. We do the best we can to fix things.
It costs money to save lives.
Post by: Mozart.mp3 on July 05, 2004, 01:14:00 PM
Would you like me to scribble that one in crayon for you, or would you like grow up?
"derr"
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on July 05, 2004, 01:26:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mozart.mp3 @ Jul 5 2004, 04:12 PM) |
| You had a leader that hated the U.S., killed his own people, that was harboring terrorists and nuclear weapons. |
that says it all, i shouldnt even have to respond to that........
so, he had WMD, where are they?
why is there not trace of them if in fact he had them and destroyed them?
and if your referring to AL-Queda, it was never shown that he had a direct, or even a remote link to them?
seriously, proof of anything you say would be nice, as WMD, were the hell are those? and how can you prove he was harboring terrorists?
even if he was harboring terrorists, that doesnt make IRAQ A DIRECT THREAT, notice the keywoard, direct
shit, even if he had nuclear warheads, he still had no way of hitting the US with him, unless god would permit a Scud missile to fly 10,000 milles
o and the fact still remains, using the war as an excuse as to why the economy is going into a negative 5 trillion deficit, and as to why in the last 3 years, 1.8 million jobs have been lost is still very very weak, and its still bush's fault as he felt like playing cowboy and killing people (whats it up to now, 800 american soldiers dead, and 15,000 innocent iraqi's dead, and for what???)
also, dont compare hiroshima and nagasaki, those were bloodbaths as well
and scribble it in crayon, still wont change the fact
| QUOTE |
| And you cannot compare a wartime-economy after a major economic structure was destroyed during Bush's presidency, to a President who's biggest media event was having an affair, you can't do it. |
o and that statement, i can compare them, as clinton must have been doing something right if non of that shit happened during his term, or bush could have actually been paying attention to stop the attack, and once again, dont use iraq as an excuse to the economy, who remind me of the average, ignorant american
Post by: Mozart.mp3 on July 05, 2004, 01:37:00 PM
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| o and that statement, i can compare them, as clinton must have been doing something right if non of that shit happened during his term, |
You do know that shit started during Clinton's term and the reason it happened during Bush's was because Clinton ignored it. You do know that right? Or are you the "average ignorant american" as well?
How do you still know he didn't have Weapons of Mass Destruction? Intelligence Agencies far beyond YOUR intelligence said they did. Which was an extreme threat to the U.S. Sometimes you have to fight to be free. Refusing weapons inspectors IS a "DIRECT THREAT". And I think it's extremely apparent Iraq was harboring terrorists of some sort, honestly, if you think they were, that's ignorant of you right there.
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| 800 american soldiers dead, and 15,000 innocent iraqi's dead |
Wow, 800 americans dead, and 15,000 Iraqs. I know that is a terrible tragedy, but compare it to most ALL wars and 800 dead casualties, think if we DID have that in WWII. That's the reason wars cost money, LOOK HOW MANY LIVES WERE SAVED.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki WERE bloodbaths, which is exactly why we paid to fix them up too. You can't leave a country in ruins or the entire country will collapse. At least we did SOMETHING for them.
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on July 05, 2004, 02:58:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mozart.mp3 @ Jul 5 2004, 04:37 PM) |
| You do know that shit started during Clinton's term and the reason it happened during Bush's was because Clinton ignored it. You do know that right? Or are you the "average ignorant american" as well? How do you still know he didn't have Weapons of Mass Destruction? Intelligence Agencies far beyond YOUR intelligence said they did. Which was an extreme threat to the U.S. Sometimes you have to fight to be free. Refusing weapons inspectors IS a "DIRECT THREAT". And I think it's extremely apparent Iraq was harboring terrorists of some sort, honestly, if you think they were, that's ignorant of you right there. Wow, 800 americans dead, and 15,000 Iraqs. I know that is a terrible tragedy, but compare it to most ALL wars and 800 dead casualties, think if we DID have that in WWII. That's the reason wars cost money, LOOK HOW MANY LIVES WERE SAVED. Hiroshima and Nagasaki WERE bloodbaths, which is exactly why we paid to fix them up too. You can't leave a country in ruins or the entire country will collapse. At least we did SOMETHING for them. |
what the hell are you trying to say????
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| Wow, 800 americans dead, and 15,000 Iraqs. I know that is a terrible tragedy, but compare it to most ALL wars and 800 dead casualties, think if we DID have that in WWII. That's the reason wars cost money, LOOK HOW MANY LIVES WERE SAVED. |
your still trying to compare the iraq war? are you brain dead? this isnt a war, is a retarded blood bath over oil and ghost weapons that never exsisted
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| Hiroshima and Nagasaki WERE bloodbaths, which is exactly why we paid to fix them up too. You can't leave a country in ruins or the entire country will collapse. At least we did SOMETHING for them. |
yea, we did something for them alright, we killed a shitload of innocent people
| QUOTE |
| How do you still know he didn't have Weapons of Mass Destruction? Intelligence Agencies far beyond YOUR intelligence said they did. Which was an extreme threat to the U.S. Sometimes you have to fight to be free. Refusing weapons inspectors IS a "DIRECT THREAT". And I think it's extremely apparent Iraq was harboring terrorists of some sort, honestly, if you think they were, that's ignorant of you right there. |
that explains it all, your just another brainwashed, republican puppet.
are intelligence agency suck, which is evident because of 9/11 and because we didnt find any weapons.......
wow, so if i was head of the FBI and i said disney world had drugs on "its a small world" youd believe them, even if it turned out to be false?
it ovbious they had no fucking clue what they were saying, or else wed have stockpiles of WMD's in our hands from Iraq right now
| QUOTE |
| And I think it's extremely apparent Iraq was harboring terrorists of some sort, honestly, if you think they were, that's ignorant of you right there. |
then my point is proven, your ignorant
honestly, you cant call refusing inspection a direct threat, as ill say it again, what the fuck was he going to hit us with, a flying telephone pole (ie, Scud missiles)??
he think he actually had ICBM's, fuck, wake up and open your eyes
your another one of those people that if told to jump will
Post by: Mozart.mp3 on July 05, 2004, 03:06:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| are intelligence agency suck |
| QUOTE |
| he think he actually |
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| your another one |
It's like I'm holding a conversation with a fucking preschooler.
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on July 05, 2004, 03:17:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mozart.mp3 @ Jul 5 2004, 06:06 PM) |
| Yet again, I don't even need to reply to any of your statements to prove my point is already made. It's like I'm holding a conversation with a fucking preschooler. |
oo shit, you got me there, wow, you argued my points with so many concrete facts and counter arguements i think im beat
honestly, you just went lower down the peg then nemt, that at least nemt, instead of only correcting spelling, made some effort to argue
you actually think that by saying you dont need to argue and then correcting someones spelling in an online forum, you proved a point?
you didnt prove shit, as you cant because you have no idea how in the fuck you can prove your point, or you dont know what your talking about.
honestly, you need to grow up and realize what you just did, correct someones spelling on an online forum
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on July 05, 2004, 03:19:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mozart.mp3 @ Jul 5 2004, 06:06 PM) |
| Yet again, I don't even need to reply to any of your statements to prove my point is already made. |
and what the fuck is your point that you proved? that i spelt a few thing wrong? wow, what a good point, but what the fuck does that have to do with the fact the economy sucks, bush is doing a horrible job, iraq is a big fucking mistake and waste of resources as they were never a threat, and your ignorant??
Post by: Mozart.mp3 on July 05, 2004, 03:43:00 PM
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on July 05, 2004, 04:04:00 PM
good
Post by: Mozart.mp3 on July 05, 2004, 04:19:00 PM
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on July 05, 2004, 04:42:00 PM
also, im being ignorant, but your the one thats so sure sadaam had WMD and so sure that bush has made the right moves, yet you dont offer any reason as to why or any proof that sadaam had WMD's???
wow, americans are retarded
Post by: Mozart.mp3 on July 05, 2004, 04:48:00 PM
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on July 05, 2004, 05:17:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mozart.mp3 @ Jul 5 2004, 07:48 PM) |
| You have provided me 0 valid arguement points, you're an idiot, you're ignorant and you aren't even american, why are you posting here? |
im half american and half canadien
i used to have the typical american view after 9/11, but then i realized we have to get over it and stop using it as an excuse
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on July 05, 2004, 05:18:00 PM
| QUOTE (67thRaptorBull @ Jul 5 2004, 05:58 PM) |
| what the hell are you trying to say???? your still trying to compare the iraq war? are you brain dead? this isnt a war, is a retarded blood bath over oil and ghost weapons that never exsisted yea, we did something for them alright, we killed a shitload of innocent people that explains it all, your just another brainwashed, republican puppet. are intelligence agency suck, which is evident because of 9/11 and because we didnt find any weapons....... wow, so if i was head of the FBI and i said disney world had drugs on "its a small world" youd believe them, even if it turned out to be false? it ovbious they had no fucking clue what they were saying, or else wed have stockpiles of WMD's in our hands from Iraq right now then my point is proven, your ignorant honestly, you cant call refusing inspection a direct threat, as ill say it again, what the fuck was he going to hit us with, a flying telephone pole (ie, Scud missiles)?? he think he actually had ICBM's, fuck, wake up and open your eyes your another one of those people that if told to jump will |
so you cant respond to any of that, just because i made a few errors?
honestly, grow up
Post by: Mozart.mp3 on July 05, 2004, 05:26:00 PM
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on July 05, 2004, 05:30:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mozart.mp3 @ Jul 5 2004, 08:26 PM) |
| I've already explained myself multiple times, you just keep asking the same questions over and over, ALL THOSE QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED. |
no they werent, you just stated what you wanted to hear, i asked for proof and all you said, well look it up yourself, that doesnt really help your arguement
its a political discussion forum, you cant just say something and not back it up, o wait, you can if your the president and want to invade a country for oil
show me proof of WMD's and proof that sadaam had nuclear warheads and proof he was harboring or helping Al-Queda or proof that the economy is the way it is all because of the war or proof unemployment is down because of the war
show me proof on any of those, and dont just say because the government said so (ie, the CIA said sadaam had WMD's, but i said where are they and you said an intelligence agency said that so it must be true)
Post by: Mozart.mp3 on July 05, 2004, 05:43:00 PM
Post by: nemt on July 05, 2004, 05:43:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mozart.mp3 @ Jul 5 2004, 10:26 PM) |
| I've already explained myself multiple times, you just keep asking the same questions over and over, ALL THOSE QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED. |
Get used to it.
Post by: Mozart.mp3 on July 05, 2004, 05:45:00 PM
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on July 05, 2004, 05:47:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mozart.mp3 @ Jul 5 2004, 08:43 PM) |
| Dude, you aren't even American, you act as if you know oh so much more than me. Seriously, why do you even post. If you really cared about the political discussion at all you would look up fact yourself for your own knowledge. |
oo, but i am american, im a citizen of the US, i was born here, so how am i not american?
and again, instead of proving me wrong or providing in the discussion, you attack me again, its nemt and bloodymarry all over again
why do you post here if all your going to do is tell people to find out stuff you said on there own and attack them personally?
well you and nemt go have fun
Post by: Mozart.mp3 on July 05, 2004, 06:02:00 PM
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on July 05, 2004, 06:23:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mozart.mp3 @ Jul 5 2004, 09:02 PM) |
| Dude I've proved my point like 10 times now, you won't drop it, your reasons don't make any sense. |
proven what point?
all youve said is for me to prove your own point by myself (ie, i have to look up what your spewing out your ass)
ill say it again, as you have not proven shit
wheres the proof sadaam had WMD's? wheres the proof he was a direct threat even if he had a nuclear warhead? (they dont just fly without nothing)?? wheres the proof he was in direct contact and harboring of Al-Queda? wheres the proof the war is the 100% cuase of job loss and economic recession?
do you have any proof, or is all your going to do is keep sticking your head up your ass and avoiding the questions?
all youve asnwered is the WMD question, and your answer was laughable at best
| QUOTE |
| because on agency with more intelligence then you said so |
and what reasons? i havnt stated any reasons, as i dont need to, im not the one making sensational claims (its easy to see there were no WMD's, as we didnt find shit, its easy to see he wasnt in direct contact with Al-Queda as bush never showed concrete proof, its easy to see bush has let the economy go to shit as go to an umeployment office, its easy to see you cant blame war as the #1 factor as all you need is common sense)
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on July 05, 2004, 06:34:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mozart.mp3 @ Jul 5 2004, 04:37 PM) |
| How do you still know he didn't have Weapons of Mass Destruction? Intelligence Agencies far beyond YOUR intelligence said they did. Which was an extreme threat to the U.S. Sometimes you have to fight to be free. Refusing weapons inspectors IS a "DIRECT THREAT". |
thats the statement i was looking for
Post by: Mozart.mp3 on July 05, 2004, 06:36:00 PM
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on July 05, 2004, 06:38:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mozart.mp3 @ Jul 5 2004, 09:36 PM) |
| Does anyone else agree with him at all whatsoever? If so please post now. |
oo, so you cant asnwer my questions??
yup, thats what i though, its ok, being proven wrong happens everynow and then
typical republican stance it seems, someone brings up an issue, and all you guys do is play it down with false information and then try to turn the attention away from yourself
Post by: Mozart.mp3 on July 05, 2004, 06:42:00 PM
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on July 05, 2004, 07:05:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mozart.mp3 @ Jul 5 2004, 09:42 PM) |
| Who said I was republican, I don't remember saying I liked Bush at all.... |
but the way your making your case its ovbious, unless your a liberal that believes iraq was the right move, believes iraq had WMD's and blames the war for the economy flailing
again, you wont answer any of my questions, why is that?
and dont say because there dumb, there responses to everything youve said
Post by: Mozart.mp3 on July 05, 2004, 07:08:00 PM
And I'm not answering any of your questions because it's "ovbiuous" that you don't seem to understand anything I am saying at all.
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on July 05, 2004, 07:11:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mozart.mp3 @ Jul 5 2004, 10:08 PM) |
| Or I'm an independant, and I choose my own veiws... And I'm not answering any of your questions because it's "ovbiuous" that you don't seem to understand anything I am saying at all. |
o fuck, its 12 30 in the morning and i made a spelling mistake
and your not saying shit, all your saying is whatever you feel like pulling out of your ass and then telling people to verify it themselves
so, im not understanding what again? your retarded points and stances with no basis or concrete proof
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on July 07, 2004, 12:50:00 PM
Post by: nemt on July 07, 2004, 04:40:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mozart.mp3 @ Jul 6 2004, 12:08 AM) |
| Or I'm an independant, and I choose my own veiws... |
You must be new to the internet. On here, everyone is so far left, even moderation seems extreme.
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on July 07, 2004, 04:54:00 PM
| QUOTE (nemt @ Jul 7 2004, 07:40 PM) |
| You must be new to the internet. On here, everyone is so far left, even moderation seems extreme. |
wow, you never fail to amaze me nemt
you have it backwards, your so far RIGHT that your own thoughts cloud your judgement
Post by: nemt on July 07, 2004, 05:05:00 PM
| QUOTE (67thRaptorBull @ Jul 7 2004, 09:54 PM) |
| your own thoughts cloud your judgement |
Wow
..just....
wow
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on July 07, 2004, 05:37:00 PM
| QUOTE (nemt @ Jul 7 2004, 08:05 PM) |
| Wow ..just.... wow |
yes?
its true, you think so so far right, that anything even proposed, said or shown with ample evidence by someone on the left, you shoot it down immediatly, without offering a valid reason as to why, and to cover it all up you make fun of their spelling on an internet forum