Post by: ArMaGeDdOn on May 28, 2004, 12:14:00 AM
My opinion may differ from yours, but I liked bill. And i'm sure lots of you pro-bush guys will love posting shit in this thread. But, i'm just posting it. Probably won't be reading/responding.
Post by: Maximumbeing on May 28, 2004, 11:08:00 AM
Post by: gronne on May 30, 2004, 12:32:00 AM
Post by: HiRoll3r on May 30, 2004, 11:38:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| I think Clinton and his foreign policy was just as bad as Bush. Opposite ends of the spectrum but both harmful. |
Examples to back that up?
Post by: Thelonious on May 31, 2004, 01:01:00 AM
| QUOTE (HiRoll3r @ May 31 2004, 08:38 AM) |
Examples to back that up? |
Kosovo - See, Nato is still useful guys
Iraq - we're gonna get ya, not kidding, really, I'm serious now, really
East Timor - "Suharto is our type of guy"
Sudan - does anyone care about this country - doesn't look look like it ?!
Terrorism/Afghanistan - great plans, no action
N. Korea - If we give him money he'll go away
Haiti - we like him, we don't, we like him, we don't
Cuba - don't like you - you all starve
Add to that the continued abuse of the UN veto and the status quo in Israel and I don't think he was a very effective commander. Great policy at home, but overseas he contributed to the mess we're in now as much as anyone before him.
Post by: rafblade on June 01, 2004, 12:33:00 PM
Post by: nemt on June 01, 2004, 06:17:00 PM
Post by: iwinulose on June 02, 2004, 08:17:00 AM
| QUOTE (gronne @ May 30 2004, 04:32 AM) |
| People get more upset if their president is cheating his wife, then if he kills 20000 iraqies??? |
last time i checked were at war wit them (i dont want to turn this into a war thread so ill leave it at that)
and we were more upset because he turned being the president into a joke
in my opinnon (sp?) he should have been thrown out of office, not for cheating but for lying under oath
he is a dumb ass
period
Post by: nemt on June 02, 2004, 08:31:00 AM
Not to mention all the Serbs he murdered...
Post by: iwinulose on June 02, 2004, 08:32:00 AM
Post by: Maximumbeing on June 02, 2004, 12:23:00 PM
Double Standard.
Post by: nemt on June 02, 2004, 01:34:00 PM
| QUOTE (Maximumbeing @ Jun 2 2004, 05:23 PM) |
| So i guess Serbs are better than Iraqis too, right Nemt? Last time I checked the forums you didn't mind innocents dieing, in fact weren't you glad they were dead? :-P Double Standard. |
I don't mind innocents dying if it's accidental and the war wasn't ridiculous in the first place.
The war in the balkans was anything but justified.
Post by: Banj on June 03, 2004, 12:41:00 AM
You're a credit to the species Nemt.
Post by: nemt on June 03, 2004, 06:16:00 AM
You can't compare one to the other.
Post by: gronne on June 03, 2004, 07:28:00 AM
| QUOTE |
I don't mind innocents dying if it's accidental |
???
How old are you, you little fucking punk. Where do you draw the line of whether it's accidental or not? So if Iraq invaded America (they wouldn't do shit like that w/o a reason though, USA got the patent of doing so) and happened to accidentally kill you, it wouldn't matter to you?(would be hard to do if you're dead, but you get the point, hopefully).
Someone should ban you for your cynical fucking views on people's values
Post by: CHRONOSTORM on June 03, 2004, 07:30:00 AM
Post by: iwinulose on June 03, 2004, 08:23:00 AM
| QUOTE (CHRONOSTORM @ Jun 3 2004, 11:30 AM) |
| although i agree with you maybe you should rewrite your post so it makes since |
lol ^
ok heres the deal though (but i still dont think this should be a stupid war topic)
no mater where you fight a war their will be some civilian cassualties
and like nemt said we are trying to keep them to a minimum but its impossible to not have any
and if Iraq invaded the US i would be pissed of if civilians were killed but i cant say they did it on purpose or blame it on my gov't *cough* librals *cough*
lets just stay on topic from now on:
BILL CLINTON SUX!!!
Post by: gronne on June 03, 2004, 08:44:00 AM
Seriously, I'd be glad if you pointed out what was wrong, otherwise I won't advance.
Post by: iwinulose on June 04, 2004, 10:31:00 AM
| QUOTE (HeLiuM @ Jun 3 2004, 10:56 PM) |
| So the other day I went into the street and I saw this guy I didn't quite like. Well he gave me a look, and I thought he probably had a knife on him. My buds told me to let it go, the cops would deal with him, but I took a few shots at him. Sure, there was some collateral damage, I shot a few civilians and a few of the guys buddies took out a few of mine, and some more civilians died in the crossfire. It's okay though, it's not like I TRIED to get those people killed. I'll just tell the cops god told me to do it *cough* republicans *cough*. Seriously, how can you not see something wrong with saying God told you to go to war with Iraq. I don't care how much you think this is a Christian nation, that should offend EVERYONE (Christians that he's calling God a war monger, and everyone else that he's insulting our intelligence by using God's word as justification for diplomacy). You know for a fact every step was taken to prevent civilian casualties. Hmm. If the army didn't have enough intel to tell a wedding from a terrorist uprising before launching a helicopter strike, I'd say they weren't doing their best. I know one of you will respond with "they werent innocents, they were terrorist bastards". Well I'm not going to go into how the war is just inspiring terrorism, let's pretend they are all terrorists, pure evil. The military PR front had no information on the attack, even after it was over the press. 3 days later, the military makes an official statemeny. Three days for a simple report saying we were in the right, and they still haven't given any significant evidence. The Nick Berg video, many people in high positions believe it is fake. Where is the investigation? Why aren't we being notified on it? Don't the american people have a right to know who's decapitating their children (yes, we all know who started the war leading to this, but I mean directly). I don't care how much support you have for the government, isn't this even curious? What kind of a president condones this lack of intelligence and blatant lying to the American people (Denying he was detained, you can only change your story so many times and expect everyone to believe you. Of course, you've still got the sheep)? The Bush kind apparently. but while we're staying on topic, Bill Clinton was a better president than Bush could ever be. Bush is big on national security, I would feel safer with Clinton leading us than I do now. |
were in my post did i bring up god?
no where
and that was a really dumb example
we dont just jump on the streets saying "Hes got a knife, i think, so lets kill every one here"
seriously wtf dude
and no Clinton sux really bad
he didnt even take osama when he had the chance, hes dumber than bread
Post by: gronne on June 05, 2004, 12:53:00 AM
Post by: Banj on June 05, 2004, 05:07:00 AM
Post by: iwinulose on June 05, 2004, 10:11:00 AM
ok so because i think that a president that doesnt go after a terrrorist, cheats on his wife, lied about it under oath, and freed prisoners for no reason is stupid, im the dumb one?????
u need to work out ur logic buddy
oh and:
CLINTON SUXS
Post by: nemt on June 08, 2004, 05:40:00 AM
| QUOTE (gronne @ Jun 3 2004, 12:28 PM) |
| ??? How old are you, you little fucking punk. Where do you draw the line of whether it's accidental or not? So if Iraq invaded America (they wouldn't do shit like that w/o a reason though, USA got the patent of doing so) and happened to accidentally kill you, it wouldn't matter to you?(would be hard to do if you're dead, but you get the point, hopefully). Someone should ban you for your cynical fucking views on people's values |
It's accidental when our troops are put in danger because bomb payloads have been reduced to avoid civilian deaths. Your comment about an invasion on the US is ridiculous and irrelevent, because the US doesn't have over a dozen UN sanctions against it, nor does it invade and threaten its neighbors as well as ethnic minorities.
Someone should ban you for using "fucking" repeatedly on a forum which is supposed to be family friendly. Your resorting to foul language only shows your ignorance and your lack of age. I don't care if you think you're smart for taking 10th grade government class, you don't know anything about politics or war, and you're a complete moron.
Post by: BloodyMary on June 09, 2004, 03:15:00 AM
| QUOTE (Colonel32 @ Jun 8 2004, 05:28 PM) |
| I agree that SA and the ISI are Bin Ladens biggest allies... much more than the Taliban was - they are also GWB's biggest allies so I don't understand why you don't slam the current administration as well. |
'GWB's biggest allies'???
What kinda of crack are you smoking...
you ever hear of Great Britain, Israel or Spain???
Post by: iwinulose on June 09, 2004, 10:35:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| That's exactly the point. What does God have to do with Iraq? How can you claim to be objective while saying God told you to invade them? Aren't you admitting your inability to be an objective president, when supreme beings start telling you to wage war? |
i still dont c how i said god has any thing to do with this
i didnt bring it up and i dont think that a FAKE OVERFIGURE has any thing to do wit it
and i didnt say god told me that we should invade iraq, seriously u need to stfu
and nemt i agree completely
these morons are still stuck on god, where did he come into play
there just making excuses for there stupidity and ignorace (sp? lol)
president clinton was one of the worst presidents ever.
oh and y is this turning into another stupid war topic, its annoying
Post by: nemt on June 09, 2004, 11:34:00 AM
Post by: Colonel32 on June 09, 2004, 01:19:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event." |
From one of the Mossad agents. Search google in you don't believe me.
Great allies - instead of "documenting" it, why not warn your friends that a few jets are about to hit some buildings and suggest an evacuation
Post by: chefelf on June 09, 2004, 01:21:00 PM
| QUOTE (nemt @ Jun 9 2004, 03:34 PM) |
| Bush never said God told him to invade Iraq, you need to get your news from someone besides tv comedians. |
I think he's referring to quotes from the Bob Woodward interview:
| QUOTE |
| Having given the order, the president walked alone around the circle behind the White House. Months later, he told Woodward: As I walked around the circle, I prayed that our troops be safe, be protected by the Almighty. Going into this period, I was praying for strength to do the Lord's will. I'm surely not going to justify war based upon God. Understand that. Nevertheless, in my case, I pray that I be as good a messenger of his will as possible. And then, of course, I pray for forgiveness." Did Mr. Bush ask his father for any advice? I asked the president about this. And President Bush said, Well, no, and then he got defensive about it, says Woodward. Then he said something that really struck me. He said of his father, He is the wrong father to appeal to for advice. The wrong father to go to, to appeal to in terms of strength. And then he said, There's a higher Father that I appeal to." |
For the full interview see here: http://www.cbsnews.c...ain612067.shtml
Post by: nemt on June 09, 2004, 01:43:00 PM
Post by: iwinulose on June 10, 2004, 10:38:00 AM
bush didnt say he was doing what god told him
and lets get back to Clinton (this is a topic about him is it not?)
i still think that he was one of the worst, if not the worst, presidents ever
if Washington were still alive he'd be ashamed (sp?), of Clinton
personally i dont think he even deserves the secreat (sp?) service that he gets
Post by: muerte on June 10, 2004, 11:46:00 AM
| QUOTE (self @ Jun 10 2004, 04:27 AM) |
| A crusade is a christian holy war. |
not according to wordnet:
| QUOTE |
| crusade n 1: a series of actions advancing a principle or tending toward a particular end |
Post by: nemt on June 10, 2004, 11:52:00 AM
| QUOTE (self @ Jun 10 2004, 06:27 AM) |
| A crusade is a christian holy war. |
crusade
\Cru*sade"\ (kr?-s?d"), n. [F. croisade, fr. Pr. crozada, or Sp cruzada, or It. crociata, from a verb signifying to take the cross, mark one's self with a cross, fr. L. crux cross; or possibly taken into English directly fr. Pr. Cf. Croisade, Crosado, and see Cross.]
1. Any one of the military expeditions undertaken by Christian powers, in the 11th, 12th, and 13th centuries, for the recovery of the Holy Land from the Mohammedans.
2. Any enterprise undertaken with zeal and enthusiasm; as, a crusade against intemperance.
3. A Portuguese coin. See Crusado.
Post by: Master-Chief on June 10, 2004, 01:31:00 PM
| QUOTE (nemt @ Jun 2 2004, 05:34 PM) |
| I don't mind innocents dying if it's accidental and the war wasn't ridiculous in the first place. The war in the balkans was anything but justified. |
This guy is a moron and he just DOESN'T get what's happening in the outside world. Maybe you should try getting your news source from somewhere else because you are obviously getting it from a bias source. How would you feel if someone closely related to you (mother, father, etc.) was killed because of their "innocence"? You wouldn't mind would you? I'm certainly sure you wouldn't!
Post by: HeLiuM on June 10, 2004, 04:39:00 PM
| QUOTE (iwinulose @ Jun 10 2004, 07:38 PM) |
| ok first of all i didnt turn this into a war topic bush didnt say he was doing what god told him and lets get back to Clinton (this is a topic about him is it not?) i still think that he was one of the worst, if not the worst, presidents ever if Washington were still alive he'd be ashamed (sp?), of Clinton personally i dont think he even deserves the secreat (sp?) service that he gets |
What better way to judge a president than comparing him to his peers?
You said Clinton was a moron for not going after terrorists, Bush is a good juxtaposition to this. It's much more substantial to show the other side than to simply say "clinton sux" and accept it as fact.
Anyone denying Bush makes constant references to God to explain his actions should take another look at some transcripts.
Post by: nemt on June 10, 2004, 05:34:00 PM
| QUOTE (Master-Chief @ Jun 10 2004, 06:31 PM) |
| This guy is a moron and he just DOESN'T get what's happening in the outside world. Maybe you should try getting your news source from somewhere else because you are obviously getting it from a bias source. How would you feel if someone closely related to you (mother, father, etc.) was killed because of their "innocence"? You wouldn't mind would you? I'm certainly sure you wouldn't! |
Civilian casualties are terrible, yes, but I'd rather have thousands of foreign civilians die than one American, and that's that.
Post by: Banj on June 10, 2004, 11:54:00 PM
AMERICAN LIVES ARE NOT MORE VALUABLE THAN THE REST OF THE WORLDS
There is no wonder that through out Europe and everywhere else Yanks are stereotyped as loud-mouthed, big-headed, shit-talking cartoon characters. I personally hope you continue this trend of self-importance and take it to the zenith, causing irrepairable damage to your standing as a moral country. It seems clear to me that you, Bush and every other elitist Yank needs taking down a peg or two.
Post by: Colonel32 on June 11, 2004, 01:21:00 AM
| QUOTE (Arvarden @ Jun 11 2004, 09:08 AM) |
Well if john titors(  ) prediction comes true then we wont have to put up with nemt's dribble for much longer |
I know Darby pretty well and if you were to ask him, he'd deny it, but this is the truth everyone has been trying to cover up...
I've never read any of his stuff cuz I'm not a sci-fi fan at all, but the titor saga came from unpublished works of a sci-fi writer called KSR who wrote a book called "mars". There is a debate whether or not it was actually the writer or someone who had access to his work but whoever "titor" was, they were using unpublished material of KSR and a RPG game called Gurps as their storyline.
Don't ask me how I know this
Post by: HSDEMONZ on June 11, 2004, 02:33:00 AM
Generic Universal Role-Playing System.
For wehat it was.. it once upon a time was a popular system to use. Lent itself wel to custom concepts.
Post by: BloodyMary on June 11, 2004, 06:28:00 AM
| QUOTE (self @ Jun 11 2004, 07:37 AM) |
| Bush should have enough bright people reading his speeches for stuff like this not to happen. |
You think Bush writes his own speeches???
You're way off there mate...
I don't like that terd swindler, Bush, and I like you even less...
Post by: nemt on June 11, 2004, 12:08:00 PM
| QUOTE (Banj @ Jun 11 2004, 04:54 AM) |
| AMERICAN LIVES ARE NOT MORE VALUABLE THAN THE REST OF THE WORLDS |
To Americans, they are. Any American who tells you otherwise is no american at all. The President of the USA has a duty to put his country first, whether or not it's good for the socialists in Europe or the fanatics in the mideast is insignificant.
Post by: iwinulose on June 11, 2004, 12:20:00 PM
all there going to do is jump on every little thing bush does and and make it seem horrible
so he makes errors in his speeches, its funny and if he can laugh at it himself a bit then thats good
nobodys perfect, little speech misshaps arent going to mess up ne thing
ne way its just not worth fighting cause all there going to say is "Bush is so dumb look wat he just did" (more than half of its fake)
well look wat Clinton did, its a whole lot worse then Bush could do if he tried
and why am i comparing clinton to his peers??? CAUSE HOW ELSE WOULD I DETERMINE IF HE'S A BAD PRESIDENT??????
duh
Post by: nemt on June 11, 2004, 12:26:00 PM
Post by: nemt on June 11, 2004, 03:51:00 PM
As in, all AMERICANS. The USA isn't obliged to aid any group of people except its own citizens, and neither is any other nation.
Post by: HeLiuM on June 11, 2004, 07:03:00 PM
If the country had always believed what you say, there's a good chance you wouldn't be here. Ponder that through your elitist head.
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on June 11, 2004, 07:23:00 PM
in fact, i dont care if the president is killed, his life is no more valueable then that of a farmer in kansas, or a person in india making computer parts for cheaper, then if they were made in the USA, a life is a life, no matter what physical mentallity is branded on it.
and, iwinulose, you should wipe your nose, its a little shit stained.
Post by: nemt on June 11, 2004, 08:01:00 PM
| QUOTE (ahhh @ Jun 11 2004, 08:58 PM) |
| Where is any of those statements like "All Men are Created Equal" for example does it say that the intention of America is to be an isolationist nation? Isn't the end goal here supposed to be freedom for all people? So you never answered the one guys question. How would feel if your family was killed in a hypothetical justified war against that US? |
The constitution refers specifically to americans, it has nothing to do with the rights or freedoms of anyone in any other nation, nor should any state governing document. Nothing gives the people of one nation the right to determine what freedoms anyone else should have, and though America isn't isolationist anymore, the leaders still have an obligation to put citizens of the US before citizens of any other country.
There could never be a justified war against the US, say what you want about Bush (it just proves your ignorance) but the US will never be ruled by a tyrant, it will never invade its neighbors, and it will never murder and oppress its people. The hypothetical question is worthless, and I don't respond to worthless questions.
Post by: lookformeb on June 11, 2004, 08:03:00 PM
| QUOTE (67thRaptorBull @ Jun 11 2004, 11:23 PM) |
| and, iwinulose, you should wipe your nose, its a little shit stained. |
/me thnks you may be intellectually challenged...
Post by: Banj on June 12, 2004, 12:41:00 AM
You are a product of the system. You probably won't even recognise that your country is the worst example of 'terrorists' in the world. Historically offering political and economic support to just about every shitty deed that's ever been labelled 'terrorism'. You are a bunch of hypocrits who preach 'Do as I say, not as I do.', and when the U.N. tries to pull on the leash, your representatives boycott, just like they did at the last Geneva Convention.
It would satisfy me greatly if America were identified for what it truely is, a country full of under educated people trying desperately to make history simply because you don't have one of your own.
The more I learn about your country and it's double standards, the more I feel sick by your fucking 'Holier than thou' attitude.
Post by: nemt on June 12, 2004, 04:50:00 AM
| QUOTE (Banj @ Jun 12 2004, 05:41 AM) |
| If Americans were only interested in American liberty then why the fuck are your marines shooting wedding guests in Iraq? |
Lots of wedding guests don't carry any form of identification and assemble on the Syrian border in weapons/training facility for foreign insurgents. I guess the Syrian border is like Iraq's Vegas, anything goes there!
Post by: Master-Chief on June 12, 2004, 05:14:00 AM
| QUOTE (nemt @ Jun 10 2004, 09:34 PM) |
| Civilian casualties are terrible, yes, but I'd rather have thousands of foreign civilians die than one American, and that's that. |
What if you were one of those foreigners? Your so American...
Post by: nemt on June 12, 2004, 05:27:00 AM
Also, it's "you're" not "your," idiot.
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on June 12, 2004, 07:49:00 AM
| QUOTE (nemt @ Jun 12 2004, 08:27 AM) |
| I'm not, I'm an American, and I'd sooner die than worry about civilian casualties when the security of my country is at stake. Also, it's "you're" not "your," idiot. |
whoa, you told him good nemt, damn that was a good rebutle, telling him how to spell...
and you must not know what in the hell your talking about, when you say
| QUOTE |
| the security of my country is at stake. |
id assume your referring to iraq, since thats what this thread pretty much turned into, and if you think just because of 9/11, iraq was a threat, you need to learn something, anything.
first off, iraq has not directly attacked or threated the US, ever (even the gulf war, they were not a threat to the US, just to other countries). but now that 9/11 happened every american that doesnt know shit (including you nemt) thinks, "omg, they could kill us, omg there weapons will kill us, omg hax0r" (when, even then iraq never had ICBM's, or missiles of such to reach the US), so we went in there for "our personal security" (which is kind of selfish, dont you say)??
second, if iraq was harboring terrorist's, they would have just left once we attacked, and a terrorists is just some ordinary citizen, so it wouldnt be to hard for them to hide among ordinary people untill they found another opportunity to strike us, frankly i feel that by having such a strong pressence in the middle east, were just stirring up a shit storm, which gives terrorism more reasons to attack
but, i already know your going to reply back saying i need to spell better and learn politics, but frankly, this isnt politics, its common sense.
Post by: Heet on June 12, 2004, 09:44:00 AM
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on June 12, 2004, 10:27:00 AM
Post by: iwinulose on June 12, 2004, 12:00:00 PM
lol
Post by: nemt on June 12, 2004, 12:40:00 PM
| QUOTE (Heet @ Jun 12 2004, 02:44 PM) |
| Nemt for fucking president!!!!!! Agree with all you say man. |
If you lived in my county you could vote for me in a local election.
State Assembly New York 92nd District
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on June 12, 2004, 01:15:00 PM
| QUOTE (nemt @ Jun 12 2004, 03:40 PM) |
| If you lived in my county you could vote for me in a local election. State Assembly New York 92nd District |
o god, thats a scary thought, you in the political system, i could see it now
- some politician "we need mroe homes for the homeless"
-nemt "fuck em all, kill them, there terrorists or idiots"
Post by: nemt on June 12, 2004, 01:35:00 PM
| QUOTE (67thRaptorBull @ Jun 12 2004, 06:15 PM) |
| o god, thats a scary thought, you in the political system, i could see it now - some politician "we need mroe homes for the homeless" -nemt "fuck em all, kill them, there terrorists or idiots" |
Not exactly, considering I know how to spell.
Do you even know what the constitution looks like, asshole? You are the stupidest person on these forums by a landslide, that's one election you'd be sure to win.
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on June 12, 2004, 02:33:00 PM
| QUOTE (nemt @ Jun 12 2004, 04:35 PM) |
| Not exactly, considering I know how to spell. Do you even know what the constitution looks like, asshole? You are the stupidest person on these forums by a landslide, that's one election you'd be sure to win. |
aaahahahahaha, thank you, ill tkae teh sa a complemant
i guess i dont know how to spell, as you say i cant, and people on online forums are the people im surely trying to impress
anyways, umm im guessing the constitution is on a floppy disc somewhere??
i mean, wtf, its writing, the basis for our country, written on a peice of very old, and probably detoriorating (sp?????????/??//?/1`11111????)
but to you nemt, its probably nothing more then a peice of paper you wanna wipe your ass with and then go kill some innocent civilians, which you dub as terrorists
spell check me nemt
Post by: nemt on June 12, 2004, 02:38:00 PM
| QUOTE (67thRaptorBull @ Jun 12 2004, 06:15 PM) |
| - some politician "we need mroe homes for the homeless" |
That quote says it all, asshole. Your knowledge of politics doesn't reall extend beyond fake news television shows and internet forums.
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on June 12, 2004, 02:47:00 PM
| QUOTE (nemt @ Jun 12 2004, 05:38 PM) |
| That quote says it all, asshole. Your knowledge of politics doesn't reall extend beyond fake news television shows and internet forums. |
wow, you qouting that proves it all
i wasnt really trying to be political with that statement, just showing how your mind works (ie, kill everyone that doesnt matter, thats how you think dont you)
fine, ill put it in better terms
all the people nemt feels should be killed
iraqi's (o, im sorry, innocent terrorists, is that a better term for you) going to a wedding
anybody thats innocent, but not american
anybody thats been taken over by the so called "liberal propaganda machine" (according to nemt, everyone that differs with him is a liberal that doesnt know shit about politics)
anyways, you get the point
like i said, you qouting a statement that had no real point behind it, other then to show your a one minded, mentally ill person, shows how you think and act
o and, kazaa lite++ has spyware
Post by: nemt on June 12, 2004, 02:49:00 PM
I never said anything to imply any of that, you're either a complete idiot who can't read the connotation in anything on the screen, or a liar who's grasping for straws, or both.
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on June 12, 2004, 03:08:00 PM
| QUOTE (nemt @ Jun 12 2004, 05:49 PM) |
| I never said anything to imply any of that |
ok, knowing that your not being very direct ill break it down
1) if your replying to the comments i made about people that should be killed, read the qoute in my signature, it says it all (for people not fimiliar, nemt thinks, that even though they were innocent (yes, there innocent, seeing how they were not proven guilty of anything) iraqi's at a wedding, they deserved to die since there "terrorists", so his definition of terrorists seems to be anybody not american, as early he said the constitution only applied to US citizens (which im not arguing it doesnt) im just saying that he seems to be one minded and mentally ill)
2) if you comment refers to me replying on how you qouted me, yes you were referring to me as making a political remark, when it was just meant to be a joke and show how retarded you are
so, now, instead of making fun og my spelling, or saying "im smarter, you dumb liberal" tell me what you meant, or tell me how im wrong, when i have it in my signature that you think innocent people should die
Post by: nemt on June 12, 2004, 03:39:00 PM
| QUOTE (self @ Jun 12 2004, 08:36 PM) |
| OMFG. I sincerely hope you two dont represent the common view in right wing America. If your opinions are regarded as anything other than extremistic racism, then the world is indeed in deeper shit than I could've ever imagined. Someone tell me it isn't so. |
I represent the moderate view in America, all forms of extremism are bad for the citizens.
To you liberal fantaics, however, even moderation seems extreme right.
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on June 12, 2004, 03:42:00 PM
jesus self, the world is in deep shit
Post by: melon on June 12, 2004, 03:53:00 PM
The one everybody hated?
Are you really frustrated because you have only had sex once and she was so drunk she doesnt even remember?
Your sex life is quite likely 100% cyber.
Are your firends even bigger gimps than you? You know the ones, about 2 or 3 in each year at school. Are they the only people who listen to you?
Do you even have friends?
Did you stay in at weekends because that was your "thing" or because you had no one to go out with?
If you do have friends are they some random internet psuedom?
Is your best friend Deathkiller2000 (etc..)?
I pity you very much. Deep down you must be truly sad.
Post by: iwinulose on June 12, 2004, 05:34:00 PM
| QUOTE (melon @ Jun 12 2004, 07:53 PM) |
| Nemt were you the really rich spoilt kid in class? The one everybody hated? Are you really frustrated because you have only had sex once and she was so drunk she doesnt even remember? Your sex life is quite likely 100% cyber. Are your firends even bigger gimps than you? You know the ones, about 2 or 3 in each year at school. Are they the only people who listen to you? Do you even have friends? Did you stay in at weekends because that was your "thing" or because you had no one to go out with? If you do have friends are they some random internet psuedom? Is your best friend Deathkiller2000 (etc..)? I pity you very much. Deep down you must be truly sad. |
wow ur a fucking moron
i bet u have no friends cause your that jackass type that no one likes cause he's so self centered
its just like teh librals to try to win a political argument with ilrellevent (sp?) garbage
nemt i say we just stop posting against these morons cause it wont do ne good
Post by: melon on June 12, 2004, 05:46:00 PM
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on June 12, 2004, 06:02:00 PM
| QUOTE (iwinulose @ Jun 12 2004, 08:34 PM) |
| its just like teh librals to try to win a political argument with ilrellevent (sp?) garbage |
wait wait, so only insulting someones spelling, and not arguing back to a valid point someone made, thats not useless (nemt)???
your a fucking idiot yourself, and i like how you labeled everyone a liberal.......shit, i dont even know what the fuck a liberal is, i just type in here becuase im expressing MY un altered, un biased views, i sure as shit am not influenced by this band wagon of liberals you and nemt keep referring to.
and when someone says innocent people need to die, they themselves deserve to be greeted by the reaper at night
Post by: iwinulose on June 12, 2004, 06:03:00 PM
ur more of a geek than me
i have tons of friends and non of them r geeks
oh and the name comes from my cousin when we were playin halo
i was woping his ass and he made me change my name to iwinulose as a joke but its stuck ever since
and like i said nemt these retards will come up with ne thing they can to make u look bad
y dont u go to skool and get an ejimacation;) cause ur argunents r retarded
im not gay (i've probable had more g/fs than u) and wtf does that have to do with this topic
go to hell
Post by: EXCURSION-CRUSHER on June 12, 2004, 06:04:00 PM
ANd none of you have any friends becase no one woulds be frends with you. I to smart that I dont have to say Y i am bester then yous people. Btway, I win becuase I got dibs on it first. not even the retard kids would be frends with you guys and they have friends and you have none.This is pointless... "even if you win, your still retarted."
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on June 12, 2004, 06:19:00 PM
| QUOTE (iwinulose @ Jun 12 2004, 09:03 PM) |
| wow ur gay ur more of a geek than me i have tons of friends and non of them r geeks oh and the name comes from my cousin when we were playin halo i was woping his ass and he made me change my name to iwinulose as a joke but its stuck ever since and like i said nemt these retards will come up with ne thing they can to make u look bad y dont u go to skool and get an ejimacation;) cause ur argunents r retarded im not gay (i've probable had more g/fs than u) and wtf does that have to do with this topic go to hell |
thank iwinulose, i dont even have to argue what you said, you made yourself look like a jackass
and trying to get back on topic, replying about how were trying to make you look bad (if you could read, youd know everything ive said about nemt is true, dumbass) isnt helping, this is a political forum, now please dont turn into nemt and just reply without any reasoning, as then you make yourself look like a jackass, and people cant argue intelligently back at you (which is probably why you and nemt never make a valid point in replies, so they cant be shot down)
Post by: Master-Chief on June 12, 2004, 06:23:00 PM
| QUOTE (nemt @ Jun 12 2004, 09:27 AM) |
| I'm not, I'm an American, and I'd sooner die than worry about civilian casualties when the security of my country is at stake. Also, it's "you're" not "your," idiot. |
Oh so now you go from being a complete idiot to correcting a typo thinking that you're some English Major??
Look, the odds are against you. Why don't you just admit that your an average obese potato couch and only watch the news when your not eating (which is rarely).
Next time, say something reasonable in your post besides correcting someone on their typo since you have no rebuttle...
Post by: HeLiuM on June 13, 2004, 07:30:00 AM
| QUOTE (ahhh @ Jun 13 2004, 08:38 AM) |
| This is awesome. It's just insults thrown back and forth and that guy has still never said whether or not he would care if people in his family were killed while being an innocent bystander to a war. I'm not a liberal or whatver you want to pigeonhole me as. I really have no poltical affiliation at all. There are people on both sides of the "spectrum" that are corrupt and all that good stuff. One thing that really gets me about this war is if a big part of it was getting Saddam out of power why didn't we do it a long time ago? Why now? Well I got to get going to bed now. |
If you're referring to nemt, he has answered that. So long as they're American (which they probably are, or he wouldn't be so arrogant regarding people from other countries), they have more of a right to live than anyone else. The way he describes it, America is simply a leech on the rest of the world and that's the way it's meant to be.
Post by: melon on June 13, 2004, 07:56:00 AM
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on June 13, 2004, 10:09:00 AM
Post by: Banj on June 13, 2004, 11:38:00 PM
Post by: 67thRaptorBull on June 19, 2004, 12:39:00 PM
| QUOTE (ahhh @ Jun 19 2004, 02:46 PM) |
| I was thinking about how nemt said that there is no way there could ever be a just war against the US realistically since i was asking a hypothetical question and I thought of a situation in which there could be a just war against the US. Lets say some country that isn't the US democratically elects a socialist goverment and the US gets indirectly involved by supporting a coup to overthrow that goverment and the people get wind that the people bringing down their democratically elected socialist goverment were funded and aided by the US. If these people were to declare war on the US it would be totally justified since the US really has no business tearing down democratically elected goverements regardless if they are socialist or not just to support global expansion of their own economic policies and if that caused someone to start a war with the US it could be well justified in a sense. |
oo, by staging or aiding in a coup, do you mean Panama??
opps, i didnt just say that did i??