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Title: Can I Swap My 1.5 Phillips Dvd Into A 1.1 Xbox?
Post by: digitard on May 03, 2006, 08:06:00 PM
I have a non-modded 1.5.  I'm horrible at Soldering and I have a solderless setup for 1.0-1.5 (the 1.5's D0 point is moved so you have to solder it).

My friend has a 1.1 XBOX w/ no dvd drive in it.  Can I simply pull out my 1.5 DVD ROM and toss it into his 1.1 XBOX w/o a problem?  This would make modding this 100x easier to not have someone solder it for me!
Title: Can I Swap My 1.5 Phillips Dvd Into A 1.1 Xbox?
Post by: Dr Donkey Kong on May 03, 2006, 08:10:00 PM
Yes xbox dvd drives are completely unmodded swappable.
If i were you i would find someone who can solder in your area.
Title: Can I Swap My 1.5 Phillips Dvd Into A 1.1 Xbox?
Post by: digitard on May 03, 2006, 08:12:00 PM
Is there a major difference between the 1.1 and 1.5 XBOX that would make it more feasable?

I mean I already have a flashed 2.6ce chip (used the programmer on it to put 3.3 and 5035 on the banks) and the chip/etc is all ready to go.  It may be easier to pick up the box from him since he's 5mins away and just put my drive in (since its taken out of my box currently for modding anyhow) and put it into his.

I work 4x10's so I wont have a day off til next week except at night when Im home from work and I want to get XBMC on this box asap.

If there's some major performance difference or something definitaly I'll have someone solder it... but if its just  a matter of me taking apart his XBOX (whole 10mins) then I'd rather avoid going the solder route as its already a pain for me to get time during the day to do that.
Title: Can I Swap My 1.5 Phillips Dvd Into A 1.1 Xbox?
Post by: Dr Donkey Kong on May 03, 2006, 08:15:00 PM
there is no major advantage to switching from a 1.1 to a 1.5 or in reverse...Your harddrive must be unlocked before it can be placed into a different xbox, or you have to install your modchip in his and then use a new unlocked(lockable) harddrive...

Good Luck
and patience is a virtue.
I'm in da ville(louisville) if you are here feel free...

Also you could always softmod...
Title: Can I Swap My 1.5 Phillips Dvd Into A 1.1 Xbox?
Post by: digitard on May 03, 2006, 08:18:00 PM
Actually a softmod caused all this...lol.  I'm putting in a WD 120gig drive (is able to be setup) and AI 3.0.

What happened was I softmodded using the NDURE exploit on the site.  Installed XBMC and it worked beautiful, but I wanted a bigger drive so I started in on the Softmod drive upgrade steps.  I was backing up my EEPROM and was playing around in ConfigMagic and guess what I did?  I STUPIDLY unlocked my drive and restarted my computer.  So of course the XBOX started up with an unlocked drive error and my EEPROM ended up getting hosed... so basically unless I went through hell and back to relock that drive, it seemed easeir to just toss in a modchip..lol.

Now this is happening with my MODCHIP  smile.gif
Title: Can I Swap My 1.5 Phillips Dvd Into A 1.1 Xbox?
Post by: Dr Donkey Kong on May 03, 2006, 08:22:00 PM
that's a bummer, i honestly would tell you to just buy a $10 soldering iron and $3 electrical solder from radio shack, take your time and just be careful, it is hard to hurt the xbox...But it is possible and i will hold no responsiblity for any actions you take no matter how stupid with a soldering iron to your xbox motherboard....lol, just follow a tutorial and take your time, might take you 3 hours the first time (took me 1 hour but i had previous experience)...

Good Luck and god's speed.
Title: Can I Swap My 1.5 Phillips Dvd Into A 1.1 Xbox?
Post by: .:Dino:. on May 04, 2006, 12:31:00 AM
theres no such thing as a 1.5  wink.gif
Title: Can I Swap My 1.5 Phillips Dvd Into A 1.1 Xbox?
Post by: digitard on May 04, 2006, 01:22:00 AM
Yes there is.

http://www.xbox-scen.../versions_3.php

The 1.5 was a limited creation.  According to the link they only produced a few lines of the 1.5 then went back to the 1.4.

Taken from the link above
QUOTE
PC power/ground (v1.4 - v1.5)

    There's no visual method to distinguish a v1.5 from a v1.4.
    Xbox v1.5 has power and ground disconnected from LPC.
    So you will have to measure if pin 2 (ground) on the LPC-bus is connected to the ground plane (a screw, for example) or not

*NOTE* Don't just assume you have a v1.5 because you have a new Xbox. There are very few v1.5 xboxes (we don't have exact data about this - but probably only produced on a few production lines in August 2003 (as testrun, production fault, ... we don't know). As far as we know MS produced the v1.4 again on all lines after that. Do the test above to make sure wich version you have. You most probably have a v1.4!


There is actually, apparently, a difference between the 1.4 and 1.5.  The D0 pin on the top of the board on the 1.5 is filled in, and its open on the 1.4.  The board design is identical, but you cant just slide in a solderless d0 connector on the 1.5 box due to the fact the hole is lacquered over.  I found this out today when I couldn't figure out why my, what I thought was a 1.4 board, wasn't able to use the d0 non-solder setup.  Then I went to Team-xecuters forums and found a picture of someone w/ a 1.5 and their board has the same covered up d0.

If you refer to the thread link below it'll show you a picture of a standard 1.2-1.5 box ... and then mine.  Mine being the 1.5 you'll notice the D0 pin slot designated for the solderless mods is filled in.

http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=510198
Title: Can I Swap My 1.5 Phillips Dvd Into A 1.1 Xbox?
Post by: Alex548 on May 04, 2006, 11:53:00 AM
1.5's don't exist.
That link to the xbox-scene thing you posted is very old and was posted because (at the time) people began reporting "new" 1.5 motherboards. Tons of stuff has happened since then and numerous long threads later... it's been determined that 1.5 motherboards NEVER existed.

Same thing with the 1.7 motherboards... they don't exist.

Did you happen to test the LPC with a multimeter before trying to install the solderless adapter? I bet you didn't bother to try that.  blink.gif
Title: Can I Swap My 1.5 Phillips Dvd Into A 1.1 Xbox?
Post by: lordvader129 on May 04, 2006, 11:56:00 AM
QUOTE(Alex548 @ May 4 2006, 02:00 PM) View Post
1.5's don't exist.
That link to the xbox-scene thing you posted is very old and was posted because (at the time) people began reporting "new" 1.5 motherboards. Tons of stuff has happened since then and numerous long threads later... it's been determined that 1.5 motherboards NEVER existed.

Same thing with the 1.7 motherboards... they don't exist.

Did you happen to test the LPC with a multimeter before trying to install the solderless adapter? I bet you didn't bother to try that. blink.gif

ive run intop several "1.4" motherboards with ground and 3.3v disconnected on the LPC (these were the "1.5s" i believe)
Title: Can I Swap My 1.5 Phillips Dvd Into A 1.1 Xbox?
Post by: i800phyco on May 04, 2006, 03:23:00 PM
QUOTE
ive run intop several "1.4" motherboards with ground and 3.3v disconnected on the LPC (these were the "1.5s" i believe)

I have one in front of me now.
So surely they must exist.
Title: Can I Swap My 1.5 Phillips Dvd Into A 1.1 Xbox?
Post by: Alex548 on May 04, 2006, 03:31:00 PM
... and if they did exist, they are supposed to be so rare that production was only a few weeks long.
Funny though... everyone and their grandma claims to have one of these "ultra rare" 1.5's.

IF 1.5's actually do exist, they're more rare than all the LE's currently available.
Title: Can I Swap My 1.5 Phillips Dvd Into A 1.1 Xbox?
Post by: i800phyco on May 04, 2006, 03:33:00 PM
QUOTE
... and if they did exist, they are supposed to be so rare that production was only a few weeks long.
Funny though... everyone and their grandma claims to have one of these "ultra rare" 1.5's.

IF 1.5's actually do exist, they're more rare than all the LE's currently available.


I've installed alot of chip's and this is the only one I have ever seen.
Title: Can I Swap My 1.5 Phillips Dvd Into A 1.1 Xbox?
Post by: Alex548 on May 04, 2006, 03:38:00 PM
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Many mod chip makers doubt even the existence of the 1.5, believing it to be a refurbished version of 1.4 motherboards with changes made to the LPC to prevent modding. This revision is exceedingly rare, if it exists at all.

Taken from here.

Also, quote from Appleguru:
QUOTE
While we're speaking of non-existant versions, there's no such thing as a 1.5 either wink.gif
So.. we have:
1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, and 1.6/1.6b(same as 1.6 but with hynix ram)
Any and all "1.7s" are just 1.6s and any and all "1.5s" are just 1.4s.

with reply from Chancer:
QUOTE
appleguru is correct


Taken from this thread.

One last quote:
QUOTE
my xbox is version 1.8

do i need a modchip?

There is no way you have a v 1.8 XBox. They don't exist (yet...?). 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 1.6, and 1.6b are valid versions. (Technically there is no such thing as a 1.5 XBox: some websites such as XBox-Scene (http://www.xbox-scene.org) mention a 1.5 XBox, but it appears to basically be a 1.4).


Taken from xbox-linux website (google cached version): Click Me
Title: Can I Swap My 1.5 Phillips Dvd Into A 1.1 Xbox?
Post by: i800phyco on May 04, 2006, 03:52:00 PM
You may be right as this box is a repair so it's possable that it's the result of the guy who fucked it up.
Title: Can I Swap My 1.5 Phillips Dvd Into A 1.1 Xbox?
Post by: Alex548 on May 04, 2006, 04:02:00 PM
I don't know the number, but I've gone through AT LEAST 100 motherboards over the past 2 years and I've never seen an UNMODDED 1.5 motherboard.

I've had a couple people claim they had 1.5's, but when I received them... they had been tampered with (failed mod attempts).

I'm still searching for a stock (never tampered with or refurbished) 1.5 motherboard.
Title: Can I Swap My 1.5 Phillips Dvd Into A 1.1 Xbox?
Post by: digitard on May 04, 2006, 04:10:00 PM
The board I have in that pic is untouched (unless you count the solderless adapter I put on yesterday).  Its not refurb since I bought it new at Best Buy in September of 2004.  It has never had a drop of solder on it as it was in the box untouched until I decided to put the modchip in.  While I guess its possible I'm starting to lean on the idea that MS just decided to screw modding and filled in the holes w/ lacquer on my board and its just a 1.4 w/ filled holes...lol.
Title: Can I Swap My 1.5 Phillips Dvd Into A 1.1 Xbox?
Post by: .:Dino:. on May 04, 2006, 04:13:00 PM
end of the day digitard, its not a 1.5, soldering to the bottom d0 doesnt maker it a 1.5, its a choice weather to use top or bottom d0, only there was lacquer in your top hole. When performing solder installs, its generally easier and more common to use the d0 on the bottom which you used.
Title: Can I Swap My 1.5 Phillips Dvd Into A 1.1 Xbox?
Post by: The Zep Man on May 05, 2006, 09:41:00 AM
QUOTE(digitard @ May 5 2006, 12:17 AM) View Post

The board I have in that pic is untouched (unless you count the solderless adapter I put on yesterday).  Its not refurb since I bought it new at Best Buy in September of 2004.  It has never had a drop of solder on it as it was in the box untouched until I decided to put the modchip in.  While I guess its possible I'm starting to lean on the idea that MS just decided to screw modding and filled in the holes w/ lacquer on my board and its just a 1.4 w/ filled holes...lol.
Ultimate question: is the ground of the LPC connected or not?
Title: Can I Swap My 1.5 Phillips Dvd Into A 1.1 Xbox?
Post by: The Zep Man on May 12, 2006, 01:28:00 AM
QUOTE(The Zep Man @ May 5 2006, 05:48 PM) View Post

Ultimate question: is the ground of the LPC connected or not?
Bump.

Digitard, why don't you answer the question? rolleyes.gif