Post by: Xbox-Scene on April 25, 2006, 09:52:00 PM
Samsung DVD Firmware Hack for Original Xbox Out in the Wild, Xbox360 WIP-- Posted by XanTium on April 25 23:52 EST
In fact, Commodore4Eva released it a few days ago already, but I was waiting for the smart guys on the xboxhacker.net forums to confirm the hack as real. The hack seems to be done a bit differently than the original (unreleased) Xbox1 hack by TheSpecialist (which was for the Hitachi-LG GDR-8050L drive) and as this modified Samsung SDG-605B firmware requires raw dumps, some patching and expensive DVD-DL recordable discs it took some time to be confirmed working. Commodore4Eva already released a firmware for this drive before, but it wasn't working correctly... this 2nd version however has now been tested and it looks like it's working.
From Commodore4Eva on xboxhacker.net[keep thread clean - technical posts only plz]:
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Cracked Samsung SDG-605B/616T/616F Firmware for Xbox 1 v2
What's New:
* Totaly re-done to read security sector from image, will now work with all games and xbox live.
* Security sector moved to image
* Security sector now read from PSN $fd021e (originals) AND PSN $f9fa00 (backups. This is the next sector after end of xbox game data.)
* Patched read sector routine to work with originals and backups
* Patched debug cdb command (FF 66 05 or FF 06 05) for bank 0 rom checksum check to return original bank 0 rom checksum. Possible xbox live checker
* Extra debug cdb command found to unlock drive without any challenge response (FF 08 01)
Tested with unmodified xbox with copy of Halo 2 made using hot swap technique, clonecd, original dvd size was psn 30000-FCxxxxx. Added security sector to image with hex editor at psn f9fa00
Don't forget to include per game security sector into image. If need be, will post firmware to easily return security sector data
This will be similar to our soon to be released xbox 360 firmware.
*Update* I released a firmware for reading the security sector data. Use only to obtain SS data from games which is $0800 in length. Send custom cdb command (from dvdinfo pro: AD 00 FF 02 FD FF FE 00 08 00 00 C0). Save data as bin file.
*Update* Status Update for the 360
Things are moving quickly, patched security sector routine. Security sector now also read from $FB04E0, this is the next sector after xbox 360 game data.
Many debug cdb commands found including the firmware checksum routine which will be patched for xbox live checker, other debug commands will be patched as they return values from disk.
Interesting that the firmware checks for version of security sector data at $065f in SS data, being 01 (xbox) or 02 (360)
Read sector routine patched to read from originals and copies. I am working on it and should be complete soon.
DVD Firmware Hack?
The hack is a modified firmware of the (original) Xbox Samsung SDG-605B/616T/616F DVD-ROM drive.
As you (should) know, all Xbox executables (XBE files) are signed by Microsoft (with a private key only MS has). This means that if you try to change anything to the XBE file, the signature will be wrong and the file will not boot.
To protect from booting raw copies of a game from a DVD-R or other recordable media, microsoft gave each XBE file a 'mediaflag'. This mediaflag tells the Xbox from which media (cd-r, dvd-r, dvd+r, dvd-rw, hdd, dvdxbox, dvdxbox360, ...) the XBE is allowed to boot. Changing this mediaflag in the XBE header is not an option as it'll break the signature of the file (see above), so ... what's done in this firmware hack is 'break' the detection of the disc.
Retail games usually get a mediaflag where they only allow 'dvdxbox' (Xbox discs - different than a normal DVD because it has some specific bad sectors etc). The modified firmware will trick the DVD drive into reporting a DVD-R (or other) as a DVDXBOX to the Xbox.
So... how does this work?
First of all you need a Samsung SDG-605B/616T/616F drive, this firmware release will only work with these drives.
Flash the firmware on the drive is easy: you'd have to open your Xbox (void warranty), connect the DVD drive to your PC (via IDE) and use the windows flasher software (MTK Win flash) to flash your drive with this modified firmware.
You also need a 'RAW' dump of an original game of your gameregion... images with ripped/moved stuff or XBE files with modified media, debug or regionflags etc. will NOT work. You can do a real raw dump by hotswapping a full DVD (a burned DL with 8,5GB of data for example) with an Xbox game after your PC drive loaded the first disc, then use clonecd and/or isobuster (for example) to dump the full data of the Xbox disc.
Then you'll have to add the SS (security sector) to the image (with a hex tool like hexworkshop for example). The SS is different for each game ... a few examples were included with the firmware release (Commodore4Eva now also released a special 2nd firmware to get this SS data yourself from an original Xbox disc by sending a special command with the drive connected to your PC). The exact position inside the image where you have to add this SS can be calculated. This SS is required and is on the 2nd layer, that's why you need to burn it on a DVD-DL. The unreleased Hitachi-LG GDR-8050L firmware by TheSpecialist works with DVD5 discs, but this modified Samsung firmware will not work with DVD5, even if the game is small enough to fit on it, it needs this SS data on the 2nd layer to work.
How to calculate the exact position of the SS is best explained by Geremia on the XBH forums:
"My big dvd (disc you used to swap with the original Xbox disc) has last sector = FCFFEF
FCFFEF-F9FA00=305EF, each sector is 2048byte(0x800 hex), so 305EF*800=182F7800 this is in hex the distance backward of the PSN F9FA00 from the end of the image file, use hexworkshop to find the right place.
BTW, it seems that this is the distance of the end of the F9FA00 sector, so the sector begins 0x800 bytes back, anyway in doubt i pasted the SS in both places."
As said above the hack will allow you to run raw dumps with MS-signed and unmodified XBE files only, so that also means the game must be of right region (as changing the regionflag in the XBE header would break the signature). Unsigned, homebrew executables would of course not work, again because signature check would fail. This hack could however help you boot a disc with the gamesave exploit which would then allow you to install an XBE exploit or flash your TSOP (Xbox v1.0-v1.5).
Microsoft and Xbox LIVE?
Can Microsoft check for this firmware? Probably (even if firmware could probably be changed to make it invisible again ... starting a cat&mouse game with MS)
Does MS check it already? Unlikely, but just like when they detect a modified bios, they will probably ban your Xbox from LIVE once the check is in place.
(Note that all info above is based on all stuff I read ... if I made any mistakes, let me know)
Download: n/a, firmwares contains copyrighted code (don't ask for it here or on XBH, we can't help you)
News-Source: xboxhacker.net[keep thread clean - technical posts only plz]
Post by: Mr_Milenko on April 25, 2006, 10:09:00 PM
) Good work guys seriously..
Post by: NitroShot on April 25, 2006, 10:22:00 PM
QUOTE(brywalker @ Apr 25 2006, 11:19 PM) 
That's neat and all. Really, I appreciate the effort and it's great that we can still find an exploit or 2 on the original XBOX. Potentially for the 360.
But hotswapping games? No thanks. We did that with the PS2 back in the day (and some people still do it
) and it's a freaking mess. It is a step, and that's great, but I don't think that there will ever be a way to do this in a way that makes sense.We will see.
The swapping is only required to make a RAW dump of the disc in a image which is then burned onto a DVD-DL disc patched with the correct SS (security sector). Swapping isn't needed to boot the disc
Post by: trigga71 on April 25, 2006, 10:25:00 PM
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Post by: italianiceag on April 25, 2006, 10:42:00 PM
it's funny, I was messin around with unleashx and the tap noted xbox 1 security broken, and I was like, "wtf???"
anyway, I don't get the point of saying nice job to someone who isn't going to read this...but nice job.
Post by: running_wild on April 25, 2006, 10:47:00 PM
QUOTE(italianiceag @ Apr 26 2006, 05:49 AM)
I'm a bit surprised this was released on xboxhacker.net
Why? It would seem like the most obvious place to me.
Post by: italianiceag on April 25, 2006, 10:49:00 PM
anyway, it came with .bin dumps of games like halo 2, gta, lotr, and mech assault.
And those asking, as of this writing, no its not on the "usual places"
the file name I have is: sdg605bv2.rar
Post by: SniperKilla on April 25, 2006, 10:50:00 PM
QUOTE(xboxexpert @ Apr 26 2006, 12:55 AM)
This is interesting. I have a few samsung's at home...I wonder if I should flash them all
Also a question....Would there be any advantage in flashing the samsung in my modded (X3) xbox?
-xboxexpert
besides being able to play a backup on live with the x3 disabled.. no
Post by: italianiceag on April 25, 2006, 10:51:00 PM
QUOTE(running_wild @ Apr 26 2006, 05:54 AM)
Why? It would seem like the most obvious place to me.
just because all of the commotion about TS not releasing it and all the legal BS.
I figured they would report it, but not a forum member create it and release it; and recognize it was them.
QUOTE(SniperKilla @ Apr 26 2006, 05:57 AM)
able to play a backup on live
wow, it must be late, i forgot this is now possible.
how long until xbox live sucks balls?
Post by: SniperKilla on April 25, 2006, 10:57:00 PM
QUOTE(italianiceag @ Apr 26 2006, 12:58 AM)
how long until xbox live sucks balls?
i sure hope people dont post premade images.. then it will be too much work for your average halo 2 cheater
Post by: DaddyO21 on April 25, 2006, 11:14:00 PM
Post by: italianiceag on April 25, 2006, 11:23:00 PM
Seems like TS doesn't want people taking his thunder away. He's not a god, or even bunny, you know.
Post by: s00pcan on April 26, 2006, 12:03:00 AM
Post by: Home Less on April 26, 2006, 12:13:00 AM
QUOTE(italianiceag @ Apr 25 2006, 09:58 PM)
how long until xbox live sucks balls?
xbox live shouldn't be affected should it? since only unmodified, signed games will work with this method, there shouldn't be any hackers or anything. The only difference on xbox live will be more people online that couldn't arfford to play the game until now.
Post by: celicagt1993 on April 26, 2006, 12:17:00 AM
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Post by: clogicgmather on April 26, 2006, 01:09:00 AM
Post by: STICKY_BUD on April 26, 2006, 01:38:00 AM
QUOTE(italianiceag @ Apr 25 2006, 09:56 PM)
I actually stumbled across this on usenet a few days ago and thought it was just a replacement that's been posted forever now.
anyway, it came with .bin dumps of games like halo 2, gta, lotr, and mech assault.
And those asking, as of this writing, no its not on the "usual places"
the file name I have is: sdg605bv2.rar
thanks!!
Post by: .:Dino:. on April 26, 2006, 01:52:00 AM
.Thanks commodore4eva for having the balls, however you must respect the specialists decision on not releasing. This is a lil more complicated and time consuming. You need to use dvd dual layers so the ss can be put on the 2nd layer. The ss is often game specific so you will need to do some extra work.
Post by: LESTAT on April 26, 2006, 01:57:00 AM
and only DVD9 disks work so go ahead and spends ass loads on dvd9 disks cuz its a waste.
the time and effort and the mod arent really a waste but the fact that it only works with dvd9 disks is a waste.
even games that are DVD5 have to be burnt to dvd9 so wtf is the point.
not only did you waste dvd's burning the backup to begin with now you have to redo them on a dvd 9 ?
come on commodore... if the original disk was created on a dvd5 then there is no reason why a dvd9 should be needed.
insert the security code in the image and burn it.
whats the mentallity and reasoning behind burning a dvd9 disk of a dvd5 disk when the original code was never on a 2nd layer. it was only on the first layer to begin with.
wicked nice hack and can be used to help out the hacking of the 360 but since most xbox 1 games are dvd5 .. ouch thats alot of money to spend on dvd9 disks....
and the bin files you guys downloaded from the usenets.. or bt or whatever.. is already old.. he stated clearly that he has updated things already.. so... bear that inmind as you go and fry your sammy drives just to test this out.
Post by: RMF on April 26, 2006, 02:09:00 AM
Post by: trey85stang on April 26, 2006, 02:17:00 AM
QUOTE(LESTAT @ Apr 26 2006, 09:04 AM)
not sure how you guys missed that it was xbox 1 it says it right in the freakin title.
and only DVD9 disks work so go ahead and spends ass loads on dvd9 disks cuz its a waste.
the time and effort and the mod arent really a waste but the fact that it only works with dvd9 disks is a waste.
even games that are DVD5 have to be burnt to dvd9 so wtf is the point.
not only did you waste dvd's burning the backup to begin with now you have to redo them on a dvd 9 ?
come on commodore... if the original disk was created on a dvd5 then there is no reason why a dvd9 should be needed.
insert the security code in the image and burn it.
whats the mentallity and reasoning behind burning a dvd9 disk of a dvd5 disk when the original code was never on a 2nd layer. it was only on the first layer to begin with.
wicked nice hack and can be used to help out the hacking of the 360 but since most xbox 1 games are dvd5 .. ouch thats alot of money to spend on dvd9 disks....
and the bin files you guys downloaded from the usenets.. or bt or whatever.. is already old.. he stated clearly that he has updated things already.. so... bear that inmind as you go and fry your sammy drives just to test this out.
did you RTFA?
Post by: mat989 on April 26, 2006, 03:01:00 AM
I hope X360 will not require those for the few DVD5 games I have!!!
Post by: DynaMight on April 26, 2006, 03:25:00 AM
Post by: sowa99 on April 26, 2006, 03:56:00 AM
Anyway, it's possible to change firmware from xbox linux?
Post by: SniperKilla on April 26, 2006, 04:06:00 AM
great work commo!
PS.. stan he actually was bashing this very firmware, calling the guy out on reasons it was impossible that it could work, then when he actually sat down and looked at it, 4 days later, and realized it just COULD work, alot of posts were removed/edited, and he apologized..
Post by: SniperKilla on April 26, 2006, 05:15:00 AM
i hotswapped on my NEC 3520A dvd burner, with star wars episode 2 dvd1 original dvd.. (7.70GB)..
loaded isobuster, set retrys to 1 on both options, started ripping, when it hit 7% it asked what to do with the bad sectors found, picked make dummy data, and told it to never ask again, got stuck on 7% for a few mins, then kept going, got stuck a few times from bad sectors.. took about 3 hours to rip..
while i was doing that, anger popped in halo 2 in his 605B and dumped the SS with the firmware posted..
after it was done ripping, i opened clonecd, and started a dump in that, then cancelled it, to get the image.dvd with the layer break, edited the image from isobuster to match the image.000 in the image.dvd, and deleted any other image.00# entrys..
using Geremia's calculations, we found the proper offset to go back to, inserted the SS at that sector using winhex, as well as the sector before and after, just for good luck Wink, saved the image...
burned it on a verbatim dvd+r dl using clonecd, opening the image.dvd to burn...
works great.
Post by: Angerwound on April 26, 2006, 05:20:00 AM
Post by: mksoftware on April 26, 2006, 05:24:00 AM
QUOTE(LESTAT @ Apr 26 2006, 10:04 AM)
not sure how you guys missed that it was xbox 1 it says it right in the freakin title.
and only DVD9 disks work so go ahead and spends ass loads on dvd9 disks cuz its a waste.
the time and effort and the mod arent really a waste but the fact that it only works with dvd9 disks is a waste.
even games that are DVD5 have to be burnt to dvd9 so wtf is the point.
not only did you waste dvd's burning the backup to begin with now you have to redo them on a dvd 9 ?
come on commodore... if the original disk was created on a dvd5 then there is no reason why a dvd9 should be needed.
insert the security code in the image and burn it.
whats the mentallity and reasoning behind burning a dvd9 disk of a dvd5 disk when the original code was never on a 2nd layer. it was only on the first layer to begin with.
wicked nice hack and can be used to help out the hacking of the 360 but since most xbox 1 games are dvd5 .. ouch thats alot of money to spend on dvd9 disks....
and the bin files you guys downloaded from the usenets.. or bt or whatever.. is already old.. he stated clearly that he has updated things already.. so... bear that inmind as you go and fry your sammy drives just to test this out.
Dude, what the f*ck is your problem, are you pregnant or something? This guy has the balls to release a firmware and you go complain about it, well the scene would have died long ago if everyone was like you
Post by: .:Dino:. on April 26, 2006, 05:51:00 AM
Post by: clogicgmather on April 26, 2006, 05:59:00 AM
QUOTE
come on commodore... if the original disk was created on a dvd5 then there is no reason why a dvd9 should be needed. insert the security code in the image and burn it.
Of course, you could always hack/code it that way yourself, oh wait..
Post by: Trex666 on April 26, 2006, 06:25:00 AM
That means a hacker can change the resources used by the game...
Remember rainbow six's savegame hacks?
Whats to stop a person now from changing textures making it easier for him self?
Brighter models, seethough walls, its gona be all in the works
Post by: SniperKilla on April 26, 2006, 06:48:00 AM
my little video showing that this hack is indeed real
Post by: Stoned Ferret on April 26, 2006, 07:24:00 AM
If all discs are reported as XBox-DVD, does this cause even DVD-Video and the like to be falsely reported as XBox games in a good dashboard, say UnleashX?
I really just want be able to use DVD+R media in my damn XBox. I KNOW I have read from a DVD+R before, (No, I don't know why either) but apparently, the firmware is designed to report DVD+R discs as unknown media. (WTF? HOW DID I READ FROM ONE BEFORE!!! It pisses me off to no end!)
Does this firmware already work for my purposes? If not, maybe you could modify the firmware so that all it does is report DVD+R as DVD-ROM? Or at least point me in the right direction so I can try it myself? I'm willing to bet I'm not the only one who would LOVE this, as the Samsung is considered the best drive, other than this annoying fault. It is quite capable of reading +R media, it reads +R DL fine (Edit: my DVD writer automatically booktypes DL media as DVD-ROM). I had an idea about modifying the Samsung firmware a while ago, but I'm lazy and I'm not currently playing my XBox.
PLEASE give me an answer. I'll help in any way I can.
Post by: Andy Hewitt on April 26, 2006, 07:34:00 AM
Unfortunatly in the real world its almost useless. It requires a lot of work on the ISO side to get working and needs a DVD9 even if the game is only DVD 5 size.
In basic terms.... just stick to the softmod. Its easier to do and Homebrew works.
But as a step in the right direction towards the 360 being hacked ... KUDOS
Post by: Andronicus on April 26, 2006, 07:48:00 AM
It is now very quickly all coming together. First KeyDrive Patcher/Xtractor v0.5, then this, soon Xecuters SATA to USB2 adapter, then the 360 hacked firmware... EXELENT!
Very soon now there will be a 360 hack, then a eazy 360 hack, then everyone (in the scene, even the noobs) will be hacking thier 360s.
Post by: 89c4l98 on April 26, 2006, 07:57:00 AM
The concept, the proof, and the hopefully future ability to do this on the 360 opens the doors to end less possibilities
Post by: O_oTheGameo_O on April 26, 2006, 09:22:00 AM
congrats
Post by: nectar12 on April 26, 2006, 09:40:00 AM
Post by: mike96sc2 on April 26, 2006, 09:44:00 AM
Post by: brywalker on April 26, 2006, 09:47:00 AM
If the security sectors are different between originals and backups, isn't that a surefire thing for MS to look at for Live banning?
Post by: Mega_mil on April 26, 2006, 09:59:00 AM
QUOTE(nectar12 @ Apr 26 2006, 04:47 PM)
why are some of you guys acting like dual layer dvds are made of fucking diamonds? theyre not that expensive anymore.. my god
If you really think this is going to mess with M$'s bread and butter, you must really be slow. This is M$. You know they were probbly following this board and all the others right now to create a patch that blocks this hole before we even get it off the ground. It's just not worth all the hassle. Like someone else said, your better off with a cheap modchip, that way you can load homebrew or anything.
And to the guy that said DL disc are expensive, you must be on drugs
Sure they aren't are expensive as they used to be but the average person isn't going to spend money to pretty much waste half a dvd when they can just burn the same game on a dvd-+r, which cost WAY LESS. If you have the money to waste then good for you but the average person is looking to SAVE money, not waste it.
Post by: italianiceag on April 26, 2006, 10:07:00 AM
QUOTE(stanneh @ Apr 26 2006, 11:11 AM)
it doesnt only run 1 backup it will run every backup but the backup will have to be patched.
on page 1 and onward he is talking about the first release that didnt work but about a week ago he released a new fw which TS checked and then he congratulated him for a good job i think your a troll.
right, I've just had every subsequent poster acknowledge that TS wasn't the must humble about it, and I'm the troll.
Fact is, just because TS didn't think it was posible at first, he belittled the guy's accomplishment. And not only that, after realizing it was indeed done, he's gotten RATHER rude with other posters asking how to do things. Saying things like "you're too stupid to understand it."
Also, several of his remarks (as noted) were edited and/or toned down. So, why don't you acknowledge the truth before you start flames because TS's character ain't the best out there.
At any rate, it was just meant to point out his (lack of) character. This thread should be about the creator of this firmware, even if its a bit buggy its a great release. TS should be left out of this for the most part.
Post by: chr0ma on April 26, 2006, 11:27:00 AM
Post by: italianiceag on April 26, 2006, 11:48:00 AM
QUOTE(chr0ma @ Apr 26 2006, 06:34 PM)
Yes, please leave that TS guy out of this conversation! People really need to take their work to a new website other than xboxhacker.net. As far as I'm concerned that 360 FW hack is total BS until their is something with proof released(no not a video). Anyway, I wouldn't expect this to do much if anything for the 360 and if it does the people at xboxhacker.net and their wierd ethics I'm sure will not allow them to release it or it will be screwed up in some sorta way so most of us never see it. Or sites like these that post every little friggen detail for the MS spies(yes we know you're here you little douche bags) will have a patch before it even gets a release.
The 360 hack is real, technical details can back it up. The video is NOT the proof. That was simply an auxilary means of "proving" it some people -- though in the end it may have caused more doubt that it was real tahn if they just noted the technical details like they have because some people just serve to ignore those details and concentrate on the fact that "oh, the video can be faked, hahaha you lam0rs"
Post by: dmitri on April 26, 2006, 12:04:00 PM
QUOTE(Mega_mil @ Apr 26 2006, 04:06 PM)
And to the guy that said DL disc are expensive, you must be on drugs
Sure they aren't are expensive as they used to be but the average person isn't going to spend money to pretty much waste half a dvd when they can just burn the same game on a dvd-+r, which cost WAY LESS. If you have the money to waste then good for you but the average person is looking to SAVE money, not waste it.I think you might be missing the point.. You'd probably do this to play on LIVE..
How many Xbox live games are there? 50?
50x50 = $2,500
50x5 = $250
That's probably why you'd do it..
-dp
Post by: cadavra on April 26, 2006, 12:06:00 PM
QUOTE(rasstar @ Apr 26 2006, 07:07 PM)
Are you people missing something? You need the original disk for this to work so what is the point?
What's the point? Believe it or not, hackers don't do their thing just so you can play 'backups' of games that you do not own.
@commodore - nice work, can't wait to bust the 360 open and start playing!
Post by: Andronicus on April 26, 2006, 12:07:00 PM
QUOTE(rasstar @ Apr 26 2006, 07:07 PM)
Are you people missing something? You need the original disk for this to work so what is the point?
Dude, The point is you can back up your games so that the originals don't get scratched etc. Also, when renting games from Blockbuster, less law abiding induviduales could find a use for it as well. It is also likely that the torrent sites will soon have pre-packed iso files to make this all quite simple for the average guy.
Post by: helino on April 26, 2006, 12:22:00 PM
Post by: feflicker on April 26, 2006, 12:24:00 PM
1) What good is it?: You can play backups on an Xbox without a modchip. All you have to do is update the firmware on your DVD drive. (No $)
2) Do you need original disc?: Only to back it up. After that you don't need it. I am sure there will be "firmware hack-ready" ISO's floating around soon, so you won't need squat when it is all said and done.
3) Why would you do this instead of using a chip? Because you can play on XBOX LIVE with a backup!
4) Why did they do this in the first place? To show that it can be done, and to prepare for the xbox 360 hack. (Maybe they are testing MS$ to see how they attack the f/w hack on the original Xbox, to get knowledge before releasing the 360 hack?)
5) You are ruining live wah wah wah: Who cares, get over it. This does not enable cheating, it just enables people who haven't paid for a game to potentially play it on live. WHO CARES.
6) Dual Layer discs are not THAT expensive: You can get them for less than $2 at most places now. Most live games are still in the $30-40 dollar range, so yeah, that is significant.
Post by: pothead_07 on April 26, 2006, 12:29:00 PM
Post by: gehx on April 26, 2006, 12:38:00 PM
QUOTE(frOOt lOOps @ Apr 26 2006, 02:30 PM)
perhaps a location to this file? it is not in the usual places havent seen it on any of the big torrent sites either.
hint:
use your net
next narcotic to people
it's news worthy
Post by: Nightbird on April 26, 2006, 12:44:00 PM
QUOTE(helino @ Apr 26 2006, 07:29 PM)
Is it possible to flash a Samsung SD-616 with this firmware? Since it's able to use the original Samsung firmware, wouldn't it be able to use this firmware too?
Yes. T and F models
Post by: Rustmonkey on April 26, 2006, 12:54:00 PM
Anyways, I don't have the knowledge to construct one, but this is all relatively easy if you CAN READKudos to all who made this possible
Post by: DWells55 on April 26, 2006, 01:35:00 PM
Post by: SniperKilla on April 26, 2006, 01:44:00 PM
QUOTE(DWells55 @ Apr 26 2006, 03:42 PM)
I have contacted Bungie regarding the release of this hack, and hopefully they will be able to do something to protect the integrity of the Live service in Halo 2 (or what's left of it).
lol YEAH! YOU GO BE THAT HERO!
... halo 2 was ruined months ago, this wont change anything... your average halo 2 "hacker" cant even figure out how to use ppfomatic
QUOTE(Ohm @ Apr 26 2006, 02:56 PM)
Commodore4Eva say it should work for Samsung SDG-605B/616T/616F, but what about the 605, without the 'b'?
Mine is a SDG-605 marked BG68-00490A (serial?) rev0.0.
the drives are not actually marked with what revision they are.. mine says SDG-605 too.. xbmc can identify the revision as can your pc when you hook it up
Post by: italianiceag on April 26, 2006, 01:55:00 PM
QUOTE(rasstar @ Apr 26 2006, 07:07 PM)
Are you people missing something? You need the original disk for this to work so what is the point?
Well, as others have pointed out, it serves numerous purposes:
1.) proof of concept (released)
2.) able to actualy backup your games with no modifications to aything but the dvd tray.
3.) ability to play on xbl with a backup.
4.) valueable for x360
5.) simply put, you think because you have to maek your own iso and patch it that you won't be able to find prehacked images available? wtf is wrong with you?
QUOTE(frOOt lOOps @ Apr 26 2006, 07:30 PM)
perhaps a location to this file? it is not in the usual places havent seen it on any of the big torrent sites either.
I already gave the name of the file, it should be sufficent enough to find it. You don't need to be spoon fed everything, your not a child (hopefully).
QUOTE(feflicker @ Apr 26 2006, 07:31 PM)
5) You are ruining live wah wah wah: Who cares, get over it. This does not enable cheating, it just enables people who haven't paid for a game to potentially play it on live. WHO CARES.
I wouldn't consider it impossible to cheat. You don't have to modify checksumed files to cheat. Right now it's not possible, but does that make it impossible? Nah.
But a good thing about XBL is that it's not free. Even if you play the backups on it, you'll have to pay for your subscription, so I doubt we see massive numbers of people joining. Hell, even if it was free, I doublt most people are smart enough to do this, so it probably wouldn't affect it much at all.
Post by: SniperKilla on April 26, 2006, 03:01:00 PM
QUOTE(Mr Amazing @ Apr 26 2006, 04:32 PM)
Can anyone say how to get a RAW dump of an iso? Or can we not discuss that here?
I read about the xbox tool that puts them in 4gb chunks but is there anything simpler?
get an original dvd movie, thats atleast 8GB in size, stick it in your existing pc dvd drive, open WxRipper, click hotswap, stop drive, use the emergency eject hole to pop the tray out, put in your xbox game, put the tray back in, click hotswap, start drive.. close wxripper..
open isobuster 1.9, go to the settings and change both read retrys to 1, then right click on the DVD icon in the file tree, hit create image, pick the top option, should be the only you can pick.. save the image somewhere, at about 7% the copy will crap out for a minute, then ask you how to handle bad sectors, pick make dummy data, click never show this again, and hit the selection button
leave it go, it will take a couple hours, it will hit about 8 more sections of bad sectors, where the program will seem to hang and the drive will make crazy laser sounds, this is fine, let it go..
there ya go, a full raw dump..
Post by: SniperKilla on April 26, 2006, 03:21:00 PM
QUOTE(frOOt lOOps @ Apr 26 2006, 05:12 PM)
Well i used to have a modded ps2 so i know. what happens is they wont ban your ps2 for playing bruned games. but it is a simple process. if you try and sign into ps2 online with a backup it chesk the DNAS data and doesnt allow you on. If it is a real disc you can play. I would assume eveyr disc has a security sector on it. so once micorosft notices the same disc (by security or id) they will know that is a pirated disc and not allow that disc on live. this is what they should do. cause if they ban xbox 360's people will just buy another one and they are gonna lose money.
its not unique data like the DNAS id on ps2 games is...
every game has its own unique SS, but not every copy of that game
Post by: italianiceag on April 26, 2006, 03:24:00 PM
QUOTE(frOOt lOOps @ Apr 26 2006, 10:12 PM)
also where can this file be found. snd have any of you bothered to search into how ps2 deals with bunred games on their shitty live service?
Yes, I have, and DNAS is a far different ballgame than anything that XBL authenticates with.
Oh, and all my burned games for PS2 work online, so what are you talking about? All you do is a patch the image with a valid DNAS id and your good, it can be copied billions of time and ran at the same time and PS2 doesn't do anything.
QUOTE
what happens is they wont ban your ps2 for playing bruned games. but it is a simple process. if you try and sign into ps2 online with a backup it chesk the DNAS data and doesnt allow you on. If it is a real disc you can play.
What? The ps2 online system doesn't authenticate that your using a "real disc," it authenticates that your PS2 disc has the correct DNAS id on it. That's it.
The reason you can plan online with backups on PS2 is because the PS2 copying procedure is not a 1:1 process, however patching the iso with a legit DNAS id satisfies the requirement for ps2 online even if the copy is not "1:1"
The DNAS id will only return invalid if you don't patch the image. It's fully possible to play backups on the PS2 service, I have and do.
XBL has no way of differentiating a backup from a legit copy with this method (as the term 1:1 suggests), so a patching of any type of DNAS id data (an analogy, of course there is none on an Xbox disc) isn't needed as the XBL system already thinks a backup is real.
Post by: peter_kay on April 26, 2006, 03:28:00 PM
If i use this hack, Would i still be able to use the drive for anything i do now, like playing all myother backups with the bios enabled.
Can i still play my avi discs in xbmc?
Once the drive is reflashed, is playing special backups the only thing that the drive is usefull for anymore?
Sorry if this is worded wrong
Post by: gehx on April 26, 2006, 03:31:00 PM
QUOTE(frOOt lOOps @ Apr 26 2006, 05:12 PM)
..................also where can this file be found.
Man, read my comment above. I practically spelled it out for you.
sdg605bv2
Post by: frOOt lOOps on April 26, 2006, 03:31:00 PM
Post by: italianiceag on April 26, 2006, 03:32:00 PM
QUOTE(gehx @ Apr 26 2006, 10:38 PM)
Man, read my comment above. I practically spelled it out for you.
sdg605bv2
thanks for taking credit for my notation
see post #15.
Post by: Rustmonkey on April 26, 2006, 03:33:00 PM
Anyways, some help would be appreciated - if not, well, it was worth a shot
Post by: italianiceag on April 26, 2006, 03:36:00 PM
QUOTE(frOOt lOOps @ Apr 26 2006, 10:38 PM)
okay i wasnt trying to be smart, it is could this has been pointed out. so i am guessing MS is going to be able to detct when alot of people are using a disc witht he same security sector and ban the unique ID of that security disc. then they could blacklist that security sector as being pirated. that would be good so you would still have to play to pay on live.
that'd be a bad idea.
as others have noted how the security sector works, it is possible that legit owners could end up banned, that would of course lead to pesky things like lawsuits, and jsut overall annoyance with the company.
think about it, your smart ass brother comes over and copies your halo 2 while your in the shower, not thinking anything of it -- he gives it to a few friends, xbl bans those people...and you in the process. do you not get pissed?
also, blockbuster would be crying a storm as well.
I'm actually quite interested to see how MS handles this, becuase Sony has essentially IGNORED it. if you have ea valid id and there are hundreds of the same exact id on, they do NOT ban it. id's posted online work fine for me, you would have to think those would be the first ones banned, but they arent.
Post by: italianiceag on April 26, 2006, 03:42:00 PM
QUOTE(darren_JJ @ Apr 26 2006, 10:46 PM)
MS is going to detect the hack, going to ban you from xbox live and going to throw that commodore dude in prison, where he belongs
Approx age: 12
*margin of error +/- 2 years
Am I right?
Post by: italianiceag on April 26, 2006, 03:53:00 PM
QUOTE(darren_JJ @ Apr 26 2006, 10:53 PM)
This commodore morron is destroying xbox live, all sorts of mods will appear, gaming industry will lose money, MS will lose money and MS won't like that
MS will put Commodore in jail where he can stay for the rest of his pityful life !!!I'm done with you after this, but:
1.) He's certainly not a moron if he could engineer this hack. Whether or not you disagree with the moral implications of it, it takes a talented person to pull this off.
2.) You spelt moron incorrectly.
3.) Let's see what implications this has on XBL. Let's see if even 1/100,000th of the XBL crowd even knows about this much less can do it (when the 360 hack is available).
4.) Why is he going to jail? You do not know anything about his location: if he has adequately spoofed information, or if he simply lives somewhere where it is legal to modify copyright. If he lives in the U.S. and was stupid enough not to spoof his IP information then he will certainly see legal action...depending on his age, a variety of things could happen. I doubt he ends up with jail time though.
Post by: Mega_mil on April 26, 2006, 04:22:00 PM
QUOTE(dmitri @ Apr 26 2006, 07:11 PM)
I think you might be missing the point.. You'd probably do this to play on LIVE..
How many Xbox live games are there? 50?
50x50 = $2,500
50x5 = $250
That's probably why you'd do it..
-dp
I still wouldn't use it. I already have a chip and I like having the option to easily play with games and homebrew. You might as well softmod. Also it's not that inticing to me since I do not play any xbox 1 games on live, Only my 360 games and I'm not risking getting banned just to use a hack that will work until M$ figures a way to patch it. So congrats to Com for the hard work but I'll wait to see the outcome.
Post by: feflicker on April 26, 2006, 04:39:00 PM
One more thing: I think it is absolutely incredible that this hack was just released, this long after launch. You would think the DVD Drive security would be the first thing attacked... I guess the history of modding for the Xbox has to do with it (other hacks just happened to come first, making people focus attention elsewhere). Don't be pissed at the hackers for this, be pissed at MS$ for using standard PC parts and expecting to make a secure system
Post by: chilin_dude on April 26, 2006, 04:43:00 PM
QUOTE(DWells55 @ Apr 26 2006, 08:42 PM)
I have contacted Bungie regarding the release of this hack, and hopefully they will be able to do something to protect the integrity of the Live service in Halo 2 (or what's left of it).
SOMEBODY GIVE HIM THE INTERNET SHERIFF AWARD.
Post by: leorimolo on April 26, 2006, 04:47:00 PM
Also about cheaters it should only be a problem in halo 2 and bungie will realease a patch that will probably check mapfiles.LEo--this works with sammy drives right Stock ones
Post by: fewl` on April 26, 2006, 05:00:00 PM
QUOTE(darren_JJ @ Apr 26 2006, 11:58 PM)
You've obviously never played on the 'alternate' networks. Game play is completely fucked up by some idiots who cheat on their data files and you really think that these guys won't show up on live ?
This guy is a lot smarter than you, he realizes that this hack will only do harm to live ...
If I see a game that I like, I'm happy to pay its price and support the people who developed it and worked hard for it. And now this Commodore moron fucks up everything ... People that worked hard to develop games, won't get their money any more and live will be fucked up. Thanks again, moron.
I really hope MS will send out a strong signal to the community and put this guy away for the rest of his pathetic life ...
Post by: PedrosPad on April 26, 2006, 05:17:00 PM
QUOTE(feflicker @ Apr 26 2006, 11:46 PM)
One more thing: I think it is absolutely incredible that this hack was just released, this long after launch. You would think the DVD Drive security would be the first thing attacked... I guess the history of modding for the Xbox has to do with it (other hacks just happened to come first, making people focus attention elsewhere).
Indeed. The existing XBOX1 mod-chips/hacks/exploits were driven by a wish to run Linux, followed by homebrew. Running 1:1 game backups was of no interest to those pioneers.
QUOTE(Andy Hewitt @ Apr 26 2006, 02:41 PM)
Unfortunatly in the real world its almost useless. It requires a lot of work on the ISO side to get working and needs a DVD9 even if the game is only DVD 5 size.
I forsee an update to dvd2xbox, that'll do it all and simply drop a DVD9 or DVD5 ISO on the XBOX1 HDD complete with SS injected
. (I've heard that efforts are afoot to patch the FW to seek for the SS within the DVD5 region when DVD5s are present 
) Maybe the XBOX1s will simply become backup devices for X360 games. 
Post by: italianiceag on April 26, 2006, 05:30:00 PM
QUOTE(feflicker @ Apr 26 2006, 11:46 PM)
Don't be pissed at the hackers for this
Why the hell would we be pissed at the hackers for this?
In all likelyhood if they found this hack before the X360 was made and it became prevelant this would be FIXED in the X360, much like the other methods we have for hacking the Xbox1 have been fixed. Accordingly, we'd be completely sunk on playing backups if this came out earlier. Why be pissed?
QUOTE(darren_JJ @ Apr 26 2006, 11:58 PM)
I really hope MS will send out a strong signal to the community and put this guy away for the rest of his pathetic life ...
I know I said I wouldn't address you again, but OMFG...why stop there? GIVE HIM THE DEATH PENALTY.
Apparently M$ makes its own laws now.
QUOTE(PedrosPad @ Apr 27 2006, 12:24 AM)
I forsee an update to dvd2xbox, that'll do it all and simply drop a DVD9 or DVD5 ISO on the XBOX1 HDD complete with SS injected
. (I've heard that efforts are afoot to patch the FW to seek for the SS within the DVD5 region when DVD5s are present ) Maybe the XBOX1s will simply become backup devices for X360 games. Nah, if anything, the code for this f/w hack will just be improved. He left one major hole in it, as well as the obvious DVD9 only requirement that nobody likes, and TS has proven can be fixed. I'd like to see the hole fixed more than the DVD9 though, even though I have no plans on using it, lol.
Post by: ra3r0 on April 26, 2006, 05:33:00 PM
i love the fact we can "all" play live with this hack.
Post by: italianiceag on April 26, 2006, 05:34:00 PM
Post by: italianiceag on April 26, 2006, 05:54:00 PM
QUOTE(darren_JJ @ Apr 27 2006, 12:50 AM)
Remember Dmitry Sklyarov ?
Lol, I do remember him, I remember the whole "Free Dmitry" stuff.
At any rate, he was let off within 6-months. Charges were dropped because he was arrestd for something that was legal in his juristiction (Russia).
I don't know all the ins and outs of it, but seems to me he just annoucned he was coming over here and the FBI nabbed him ILLEGALLY. Believe it or not the FBI does do illegal things to
Also, he was willfully admiting who he was the whole time becausue he didnt think it was illegal to do (and it wasnt). Nobody even can confirm the identity of this commodore guy.
Post by: italianiceag on April 26, 2006, 06:27:00 PM
QUOTE(darren_JJ @ Apr 27 2006, 01:08 AM)
Because their hack had a legal purpose: allowing other OS-es to run on the XBOX. This firmware hack however will be declared illegal by ANY judge ...
You're lucky your not a woman (and so am I my fiance would kill me), because I jsut can't resist you.
At any rate, I dont think project x does a single thing except release their "backup" games to the whole world. I don't see them releasing much software/hardware, if any.
Maybe they just want to have a bunch of alternatives to downlaod their backups when they are way from their PC? Beats me
Post by: Heet on April 26, 2006, 07:23:00 PM
Post by: Pikkon on April 26, 2006, 07:43:00 PM
QUOTE(Heet @ Apr 26 2006, 08:30 PM)
Wow it works great! Cant wait for the 360 release!
Well just to let everyone know that MS has already created an update for the xbox 360 to prevent this firmware hack,they are going to wait until its wide spread then force an update,as MS can flash almost any chip thru xbox live.
And if you dont believe me just wait and see.
Post by: italianiceag on April 26, 2006, 08:10:00 PM
QUOTE(Pikkon @ Apr 27 2006, 02:50 AM)
Well just to let everyone know that MS has already created an update for the xbox 360 to prevent this firmware hack,they are going to wait until its wide spread then force an update,as MS can flash almost any chip thru xbox live.
And if you dont believe me just wait and see.
do you have any source for this magic update, or are you citing the xbl update in games like elder scrolls?
though, i wouldn't be surprised if new machines are being changed to fix this.
Post by: italianiceag on April 26, 2006, 09:07:00 PM
QUOTE(pablo0024 @ Apr 27 2006, 04:09 AM)
.
When they talk about the "xbox360 dvd firmware hack"
they talk about the hitachi dvd firmware? or they talk about the samsung xbox360 dvd firmware?
because if this firmware hack only works on hitachi then im screwed .. my xbox360 has a samsung one.
why are you being a selfish retard for?
at any rate, at some point all the drives will probably have full support. i doubt they're that different.
Post by: unspoiledpuma on April 26, 2006, 09:13:00 PM
QUOTE(italianiceag @ Apr 27 2006, 04:14 AM)
why are you being a selfish retard for?
at any rate, at some point all the drives will probably have full support. i doubt they're that different.
LOL you are probably the retard.... the firmware are diffrerent it's not the same approcch!
Post by: Pikkon on April 26, 2006, 09:32:00 PM
QUOTE(italianiceag @ Apr 26 2006, 09:17 PM)
do you have any source for this magic update, or are you citing the xbl update in games like elder scrolls?
though, i wouldn't be surprised if new machines are being changed to fix this.
Well this infomation came from members over at ASSEMblergames,I very much believe them,there are actually real game developers that post over there.
But if you want more info just go here.
http://assemblergame...read.php?t=9677
Post by: Jman232 on April 26, 2006, 09:41:00 PM
Anyway, does anyone have any legit ideas or theories if this is a product of a firmware hack? Just ignorant and curious.
Post by: Heet on April 26, 2006, 09:47:00 PM
Post by: Pikkon on April 26, 2006, 09:54:00 PM
QUOTE(Jman232 @ Apr 26 2006, 10:48 PM)
I was playing COD 2 two nights ago on Live (on the 360), and there was one player flying around. It was like he was in spectator mode but we could see him. He was taking everyone out. Bullets went right through him. He ended up with about 1/3 of his team's kills and it didn't bother me too much. I just went after the rest of his team. One guy called him a f***in hacker at the end in the score page, and he just chuckled.
Anyway, does anyone have any legit ideas or theories if this is a product of a firmware hack? Just ignorant and curious.
Im pretty so the person was using the spectator glitch,there is a way to do it.I think it involves two people on the same team to get it working,but it has nothing to do with the firmware hack.
QUOTE(Heet @ Apr 26 2006, 10:54 PM)
They cant touch me. I dont use xbox live.
It doesnt matter,they will also force an update with games also.
Post by: italianiceag on April 26, 2006, 10:08:00 PM
QUOTE(unspoiledpuma @ Apr 27 2006, 04:20 AM)
LOL you are probably the retard.... the firmware are diffrerent it's not the same approcch!
I said its not THAT different sir.
I never said they wer the same.
But if the 360 happens as the Xbox1 has, the Xbox1 drives arent THAT different that you need a seperate distinct plan of attack for every drive out.
Post by: Andronicus on April 26, 2006, 10:23:00 PM
Software can only do what hardware allows.
Post by: italianiceag on April 26, 2006, 10:49:00 PM
QUOTE(Andronicus @ Apr 27 2006, 05:30 AM)
Everyone stating that MS will force and update should remember xbox1. We all have copy protection on our chips. This would also be easy to do to the DVD via a simple hardware mod. I could be as simple as cutting a trace on the DVD's PWB, or a little smarter by installing a switch.
Software can only do what hardware allows.
Yes, that's true, but we have to figure out a way to circumvent their software mods.
And, if the hype is true, they have unprecendented amounts of control over the boards.
Post by: Heet on April 26, 2006, 10:52:00 PM
With live yes, from the factory, no but it will be a wave of games with one fix later, then a second wave with a new patch needed, and so on.
If we learned anything from the past its that.
Post by: PedrosPad on April 27, 2006, 02:18:00 AM
QUOTE(PedrosPad @ Apr 27 2006, 12:24 AM)
I forsee an update to dvd2xbox, that'll do it all and simply drop a DVD9 or DVD5 ISO on the XBOX1 HDD complete with SS injected
. (I've heard that efforts are afoot to patch the FW to seek for the SS within the DVD5 region when DVD5s are present ) Maybe the XBOX1s will simply become backup devices for X360 games. QUOTE(italianiceag @ Apr 27 2006, 12:37 AM)
Nah, if anything, the code for this f/w hack will just be improved.
If I've understood the posts correctly, the current process goes like this:
- Open XBOX1 case
- Plug XBOX1 DVD-Rom drive into nearby PC
- Flash the XBOX1 drive
- Run at least 2 PC DVD ripping apps to grab data sectors (ties up PC for around 8hours)
- Run a further app to issue the DVD-Rom drive debug sequence in order to obtain the Security Sector.
- Run HexEdit for SS injection into the ISO
- Burn to DVD
- Disconnect XBOX1 DVD-Rom drive from PC and reconnect in XBOX
- Close up XBOX1 case (should you wish to restore this to operation use for legacy game play)
- Pop game title into XBOX1 pre-flashed XBOX1
- Run an updated dvd2xbox on XBOX1
- FTP generated ISO to PC (mine isn't nearby , it's WiFi distance away )
- Burn ISO with Nero.
Post by: nwo504 on April 27, 2006, 02:31:00 AM
Post by: PedrosPad on April 27, 2006, 02:36:00 AM
QUOTE(nwo504 @ Apr 27 2006, 09:38 AM)
Im using a softmod, If i switch to a modchip with a switch can i use this on xbox live???
fyi - It's possible to switch softmods on and off also.
Post by: nwo504 on April 27, 2006, 02:44:00 AM
Post by: SniperKilla on April 27, 2006, 04:06:00 AM
QUOTE(PedrosPad @ Apr 27 2006, 04:25 AM)
If I've understood the posts correctly, the current process goes like this:
- Run at least 2 PC DVD ripping apps to grab data sectors (ties up PC for around 8hours)
the 2nd app you need to run for a split second... and it only takes about an hour and a half to rip with isobuster on my NEC 3520A
Post by: PedrosPad on April 27, 2006, 04:10:00 AM
QUOTE(SniperKilla @ Apr 26 2006, 12:22 PM)
loaded isobuster, set retrys to 1 on both options, started ripping, when it hit 7% it asked what to do with the bad sectors found, picked make dummy data, and told it to never ask again, got stuck on 7% for a few mins, then kept going, got stuck a few times from bad sectors.. took about 3 hours to rip..
Based my previous comment of your older post (which I now have to admit says "3 hours" and not 8 - I misread it - soz.
)QUOTE(SniperKilla @ Apr 27 2006, 11:13 AM)
and it only takes about an hour and a half to rip with isobuster on my NEC 3520A
Oooh, that sounds more convenient
. Good catch and a welcome correction. Post by: Roupus on April 27, 2006, 07:10:00 AM
QUOTE(trigga71 @ Apr 26 2006, 05:49 AM)
i dont think they will bother with it as wal-mart and bestbuy arnt selling them any more so they will probley stop production on them in the next few months
Ya this is true, I went around looking for the original xbox and wal-mart, best buy, and futureshop did not have any and they all said MS will not be shipping anymore out they havnt since christmas, I picked up the original xbox at an eb games and it was their last one!
Post by: italianiceag on April 27, 2006, 08:28:00 AM
QUOTE(nwo504 @ Apr 27 2006, 09:38 AM)
This would actually help M$ out. What a way to boost xbox live subscriptions. Im using a softmod, If i switch to a modchip with a switch can i use this on xbox live???
You people have such a ignorantly broad sense of what "help" is.
Sure, modding a 360 could cause 360 sales to rise a bit (another case of "help" that doesn't "help" because thye take a loss).
But this isn't much help, when it costs, what $50/yr for subscription to XBL? If you don't buy the games it's not helping XBL that much. Essentially, you're just not fully exploiting XBL with your backups if you have to pay to play your backups and at least covering your bandwidth costs. But I doubt M$ even makes a profit because of this, depending on how much bandwidth you use, it could be a loss still since you're not paying for the games.
Just buy the freaking XBL games at least.
Post by: Rustmonkey on April 27, 2006, 01:53:00 PM
Post by: Rustmonkey on April 27, 2006, 02:40:00 PM
Anyone else have this problem??? I'll try looking through the forums for posts about wxripper as well
EDIT: HA! Got it working, drive wasn't engaging all the way because I was using the emergency eject hole and not pushing the drawer in far enough
Sweet!
Post by: italianiceag on April 27, 2006, 03:01:00 PM
QUOTE(Rustmonkey @ Apr 27 2006, 09:47 PM)
Ok, well sorry to repost
I doubt anyone has a problem with it. I don't really know why X-S doesn't always leave the ability to edit. Most forums I use do.
Post by: mksoftware on April 27, 2006, 06:00:00 PM
QUOTE(darren_JJ @ Apr 27 2006, 02:03 AM)
Well, if "Commodore4eva" gets raped in the ass for 6 months, that would at least make me smile a bit again, but we'll still won't get XBOX live back with it ...
Ok I am done with you, bitch of a bitch...
You make it sound like Xbox Live is the only thing you care about. Well, wake up boy ... because there's more then online gaming on your fucking xbox. This guy didn't harm you in ANY way. I bet if you find a cheater on LIVE soon you will say it's commodore's fault. Do you work for fucking M$ or something? Losers like you don't belong on xbox-scene and should be banned from the forums..
Goodbye asshole
(PS: I don't want you to think I prefer nerds who ruin xbox live, but seriously guys lik Darren_JJ should be banned from our xbox-scene forums, the place where we discuss about backdoors and more ... if he doesn't like our opinions this loser should go to xbox.com and sign up for a fucking account and talk to his buddy's over there... he doesn't belong here at all!
QUOTE(darren_JJ @ Apr 27 2006, 02:08 AM)
Because their hack had a legal purpose: allowing other OS-es to run on the XBOX. This firmware hack however will be declared illegal by ANY judge ...
Hmmm... I don't see why the would release these nice bios files then... Xecuter released bioses with the ability to play "back-ups" which wouldn't be needed because we have cromwell...
Post by: i800phyco on April 27, 2006, 08:44:00 PM
QUOTE
I've just read that at xboxhacker.net, they are already discussing modifying DLL's and repacking them. It's happening. Lead by this commodore4eva moron, the idios have now opened Pandorra's box and soon xbox LIVE will be ruined .... Thanks Again, commodore4eva, I hope you'll have fun in jail....
.
Yes, it sure is his fault. If that idiot hadn't released the firmware, there would be no cheaters on LIVE. I hope he rots away in jail ...
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Yes, it sure is his fault. If that idiot hadn't released the firmware, there would be no cheaters on LIVE. I hope he rots away in jail ...
Man nothing can be done now so before you hang yourself remember people already cheat and it already fucked live.
Post by: SniperKilla on April 27, 2006, 08:55:00 PM
QUOTE(darren_JJ @ Apr 27 2006, 10:30 PM)
Yes, that's correct. Xbox Live is the only thing I care about. I don't like single player games, I have my xbox for LIVE.
He killed xbox LIVE, so yes, he did harm me personally. And because of him developers that worked hard for games, won't get their money anymore. If the PS3 proofs to be more secure, developers will prefer developing for that platform. Do you seriously think that is a good development for your xbox gaming experience ?
.
Yes, it sure is his fault. If that idiot hadn't released the firmware, there would be no cheaters on LIVE. I hope he rots away in jail ...
ha no cheaters on live prior to this? welcome to the real world...
"he killed xbox live" ? i dont see live killed... seems quite alive to me, i played a few games on it my self last night... seemed quite NOT dead...
you are just a bitter little child.. dont know what you have against this guy, or development in general, but wake the fuck up
Post by: Flexmaster Frag on April 27, 2006, 08:57:00 PM
QUOTE(darren_JJ @ Apr 27 2006, 07:56 PM)
True, it's too late now ...
This is just the beginning. Commodore4eva opened Pandora's box and now ... there ain't no turning back anymore ...
You make it sound like MS is completely helpless in this situation... how wrong you are.
Post by: Flexmaster Frag on April 27, 2006, 09:24:00 PM
QUOTE(darren_JJ @ Apr 27 2006, 08:24 PM)
Not yet ... Just wait ... It will only take a couple of weeks. We'll talk again soon ...
I don't see how this is development ? This is destroying.
Well, first of all I do hope they will send out a strong signal to the community by arresting this idiot. Secondly, I hope they'll start detecting and banning all cheaters from LIVE. But I seriously don't know how swift MS can respond and how difficult it will be to detect/ban all pirates/cheaters ....
I don't like cheaters as much as the next person, but MS will surpress this eventually. It is also quite a bit of work to get one game to run correctly, so I'm sure that will weed out many from attempting this.
Post by: jonels on April 28, 2006, 05:02:00 AM
QUOTE(pakman21 @ Apr 28 2006, 09:14 AM)
anyways, i think TheSpecialist is a whinny little b!tch. If he is not gonna release his work, and act like a prick then people should pay him no attention. This isn't a popularity contest, and he needs to grow the hell up. So wot if he hacks something, it's retarded how he acts all smug and doesn't release his work. he is useless.
I have to agree with that, the scene is all about development and sharing, this is the way the ball keeps rolling, picking up tit bits from all along the way... 'we all stand on the shoulders of giants'
TS just managed to hold things up for a few months by giving away only the new direction but no hard code, the reason he did this is he wanted everyone to see but not have, this way his big head could remain basking in the lime light. As far as i know he's the only one one who has ever done this, where others just post there stuff up and become the real heroes, they don't mind the common joe having a look, this is the way projects keep going and improving.
The TS name will forever be linked to a holier than though attitude IMO and I bet there are many that feel the same.
Post by: .:Dino:. on April 28, 2006, 06:32:00 AM
Post by: HAPYman on April 28, 2006, 09:23:00 AM
Post by: feflicker on April 28, 2006, 11:11:00 AM
And just to set things straight:
1) MS$ is not going to allow cheating. One way or another, they will get it under control. If this means scanning game discs for changed content, they will do it. Another thing, nothing stops users from REPORTING cheaters, and getting them banned this way as well
2) This is going to be difficult enough that only 50% of the scene will be able to do it at the most (because you will have to hack your own games, not use "released" hacks that MS$ will block/ban quickly). And you'd have to say that 50% of those people WOULDN'T do it. So, 25% out of what, maybe 100,000 hacker members who actually use Live. That is at most 25,000 cheaters on a network of millions. It won't be as big of an impact as you think, even if it was rampant! CALM DOWN. People already cheat, all this will do is allow those same cheaters a small window to cheat even more...
Post by: Textbook on April 28, 2006, 11:58:00 AM
Finding
Finding it is easy enough, just google sdg605bv2.rar.
Flashing the Firmware
Flashing your Samsung drive is also relatively easy. Turn off your computer and Xbox. Open up your computer case and connect an IDE cable to the Xbox DVD drive. Leave the yellow cables connected to the Xbox motherboard so the drive gets power. Turn on the Xbox, leave it on. The drive will have power. Turn on your computer, and wait until Windows detects the drive. I usually wait until the drive comes up in My Computer, just to make sure. Run MtkWinFlash and launch ATAPI version. Select the Xbox DVD drive and select the sdg605b.bin file. It will flash the firmware and then tell you to reboot your computer. Instead, just turn off your computer. Disconnect the Samsung Xbox Drive from your computer and hook it back up to your Xbox.
--That's what I have done so far. I'm stuck on making my own dumps.
Making Raw Dumps - My Problems
So...If anybody who has done this would like to tell us how to make a dump with very clear instructions, I would really appreciate it. Here is what I tried...
I put Sin City (7.85gb) in my DVD drive and opened up ISO Buster. Before doing anything, I set the read retries to 1 in IsoBuster by going to Options > File System Settings > Communication tab > Read Settings tab > set both read retries to 1 > hit Ok. I right-clicked the DVD icon in the file tree and hit Extract DVD <Image>. I then selected the only thing I could select: User Data (*.tao, *.iso). A window came up asking me where I wanted to save the file and what filename I wanted. I typed in Halo2 as my filename but DID NOT hit Save. At this point, I opened up wxRipper. With wxRipper, I hit Hotswap>Stop drive. I then hit Hotswap>Eject Drive and the tray ejected. I swapped the Sin City DVD with an original Halo 2 NTSC but left the tray open. Using wxRipper, I hit Hotswap>Load drive and the tray closed. I used wxRipper one last time to do Hotswap>Spin drive. I was done with wxRipper, so I closed out of it. Isobuster is still open, and at the browse window with the filename, waiting for me to hit Save. So i hit Save and I immediately got a bad sector error. What's weird is most people said they got it around 7% but I got it immediately, before it even started ripping. My error came up like this:
I told Isobuster to Replace With Dummy Data and checked the box that said Always Apply Selection and then clicked Selection. It started ripping and it was done within 10 minutes. This is also unnerving, as the others said it took about an hour to rip Halo 2, but mine was done in 10 minutes. Well, I now have a 7.85gb Halo2.tao file on my hard drive, as well as a 1kb Halo2.cue file. This is the most I have done so far. With so many differences between me and others, I'm pretty sure I did something wrong. I am writing all this to supply as much information as I can about what I did, so the people who have tried this can tell me where I went wrong. I think finding the firmware and flashing it is easy enough. The hard part is making an ISO. I can't even get a raw dump. I still don't know how to go about getting the SS and hexediting or injecting that, but I think I should get a proper Raw dump first. I think it's best to take this one step at a time. I have a double-layer burner, 10 blank dl's, and I already flashed the drive with the hacked firmware. I want to try this, but I will need some help making the ISO. If somebody can help me get this, I'll write a clear tutorial on how to do everything step-by-step. Just need some help making the ISO.
Post by: Chancer on April 28, 2006, 12:12:00 PM
The idiot causing the trouble in here will not be posting on XS for a good while
keep the thread on topic and reasoned debate now.
Thanks
Post by: Flexmaster Frag on April 28, 2006, 02:26:00 PM
... It's feasible to implement a checksum to detect any changes in the firmware and then ban the appropriate users. And what do you think is happening to the 360 when you apply a new update to the dashboard
Post by: ipodder2003 on April 28, 2006, 02:44:00 PM
Post by: SniperKilla on April 28, 2006, 02:52:00 PM
QUOTE(Textbook @ Apr 28 2006, 02:05 PM)
I told Isobuster to Replace With Dummy Data and checked the box that said Always Apply Selection and then clicked Selection. It started ripping and it was done within 10 minutes. This is also unnerving, as the others said it took about an hour to rip Halo 2, but mine was done in 10 minutes. Well, I now have a 7.85gb Halo2.tao file on my hard drive, as well as a 1kb Halo2.cue file. This is the most I have done so far. With so many differences between me and others, I'm pretty sure I did something wrong. I am writing all this to supply as much information as I can about what I did, so the people who have tried this can tell me where I went wrong. I think finding the firmware and flashing it is easy enough. The hard part is making an ISO. I can't even get a raw dump. I still don't know how to go about getting the SS and hexediting or injecting that, but I think I should get a proper Raw dump first. I think it's best to take this one step at a time. I have a double-layer burner, 10 blank dl's, and I already flashed the drive with the hacked firmware. I want to try this, but I will need some help making the ISO. If somebody can help me get this, I'll write a clear tutorial on how to do everything step-by-step. Just need some help making the ISO.
do this..
stick sin city in, once windows reads it, open WXRipper, hit stop drive, then eject the drive via the emergency hole or take it apart and swap it... swap the disc and push the tray back in with a decent amount of force so that it will click back over.., then hit start drive in wxripper..
then close wx, and open iso buster, change the retrys to 1, and then right click and make a .tao..
Post by: SniperKilla on April 28, 2006, 03:02:00 PM
QUOTE(ipodder2003 @ Apr 28 2006, 04:51 PM)
If I'm allowed to ask this, how exactly does the security sector "ripper" firmware work?
you flash it to the drive, put the xbox game in (no hotswapping needed)
open dvdinfo pro, make sure your drive is selected in the bottom left dropdown, then on the lower right dropdown pick send custom command, change the size to 12, and enter in the following.. starting from 0 and ending at 11
AD 00 FF 02 FD FF FE 00 08 00 00 C0
then click send
it will come up with some hex values, click the right most icon on the top bar, should say save to binary file.. and save it...
theres your SS
Post by: Textbook on April 28, 2006, 03:19:00 PM
Thanks for trying to help me. I tried following your instructions, but that isn't working at all. I'm not sure if my drive is hotswappable or not. Each time I use the pinhole, the light comes on my drive, like a normal eject. It is detecting the emergency eject, I don't think it's suppossed to. I'm saying this because when I push on the tray, it senses me pushing it and loads the tray back in like normal. I don't think my drive will work with the pinhole or with wxRipper's assembly-only instructions. The drive starts spinning up automatically after the swap. I've tried doing the hotswap many ways, and have come up with two different results. When I tried my way, it detected bad sectors immediately, and made a .tao 7.85gb - the size of my original dvd. When I tried your way, it only detected the short video and made a 14mb .tao file that only took 5 seconds to create. I tried using my friends laptop with the pinhole and it did the same thing. Is there any other way to make a RAW dump? Perhaps by hooking up an Xbox DVD drive, use TS's DVD drive unlocker, and then using Isobuster? I think it's impossible to use my PC DVD burner to make a RAW dump - I'm not sure why others can get it to work.
Post by: SniperKilla on April 28, 2006, 03:32:00 PM
QUOTE(Textbook @ Apr 28 2006, 05:26 PM)
@Sniperkilla,
Thanks for trying to help me. I tried following your instructions, but that isn't working at all. I'm not sure if my drive is hotswappable or not. Each time I use the pinhole, the light comes on my drive, like a normal eject. It is detecting the emergency eject, I don't think it's suppossed to. I'm saying this because when I push on the tray, it senses me pushing it and loads the tray back in like normal. I don't think my drive will work with the pinhole or with wxRipper's assembly-only instructions. The drive starts spinning up automatically after the swap. I've tried doing the hotswap many ways, and have come up with two different results. When I tried my way, it detected bad sectors immediately, and made a .tao 7.85gb - the size of my original dvd. When I tried your way, it only detected the short video and made a 14mb .tao file that only took 5 seconds to create. I tried using my friends laptop with the pinhole and it did the same thing. Is there any other way to make a RAW dump? Perhaps by hooking up an Xbox DVD drive, use TS's DVD drive unlocker, and then using Isobuster? I think it's impossible to use my PC DVD burner to make a RAW dump - I'm not sure why others can get it to work.
try this, bluecop got it to work by dumping the video partition, then unlocking it and dumping the game partition, and then combining with a dummy inbetween..
http://www.xboxhacke...msg7290#msg7290
Post by: Flexmaster Frag on April 28, 2006, 04:01:00 PM
http://www.xboxhacke...=33&topic=708.0
Post by: Textbook on April 28, 2006, 06:30:00 PM
QUOTE(SniperKilla @ Apr 28 2006, 05:39 PM)
try this, bluecop got it to work by dumping the video partition, then unlocking it and dumping the game partition, and then combining with a dummy inbetween..
http://www.xboxhacke...msg7290#msg7290
Thanks, I'll try that and let you know if it works out. I appreciate the help.
Post by: Textbook on April 28, 2006, 11:17:00 PM
CODE
Read capacity io succesful. Returned data ->
00 34 5B 5F 00 00 08 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Mode sense io succesful. Returned data ->
00 1A 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 3E 12 01 01 01 D1 01 55
99 A5 72 DF 7F 28 B4 74 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Read DVD structure IO succesful. Returned data (only first few bytes) ->
06 64 00 00 D1 0F 31 10 - 00 06 06 00 00 F9 F9 FF
00 20 33 AF 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Number of entries in challenge responste table = 23
Mode select IO succesful
Mode sense io succesful. Returned data ->
00 1A 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 3E 12 01 01 01 D1 01 C0
99 A5 72 DF 65 2D B6 F0 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Mode select IO succesful
Mode sense io succesful. Returned data ->
00 1A 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 3E 12 01 01 01 D1 01 55
99 A5 72 DF 7F 28 B4 74 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Mode select IO succesful
Mode sense io succesful. Returned data ->
00 1A 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 3E 12 01 01 01 D1 01 55
99 A5 72 DF 7F 28 B4 74 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Read capacity io succesful. Returned data ->
00 34 5B 5F 00 00 08 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Reported capacity bigger than standard xbox video partition. Unlocking seems to be succesful !
00 34 5B 5F 00 00 08 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Mode sense io succesful. Returned data ->
00 1A 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 3E 12 01 01 01 D1 01 55
99 A5 72 DF 7F 28 B4 74 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Read DVD structure IO succesful. Returned data (only first few bytes) ->
06 64 00 00 D1 0F 31 10 - 00 06 06 00 00 F9 F9 FF
00 20 33 AF 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Number of entries in challenge responste table = 23
Mode select IO succesful
Mode sense io succesful. Returned data ->
00 1A 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 3E 12 01 01 01 D1 01 C0
99 A5 72 DF 65 2D B6 F0 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Mode select IO succesful
Mode sense io succesful. Returned data ->
00 1A 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 3E 12 01 01 01 D1 01 55
99 A5 72 DF 7F 28 B4 74 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Mode select IO succesful
Mode sense io succesful. Returned data ->
00 1A 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 3E 12 01 01 01 D1 01 55
99 A5 72 DF 7F 28 B4 74 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Read capacity io succesful. Returned data ->
00 34 5B 5F 00 00 08 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Reported capacity bigger than standard xbox video partition. Unlocking seems to be succesful !
So then I load up isobuster and it complains about no file system. I hit cancel. Isobuster shows that the disc has 6.85GB of data, which is the correct size according to other users. Everything so far so good. Start the rip, and I get the bad sector error at 2%. Choose to replace with dummy data for all selections. Ripping continues, but very slowly. After 3 hours, the progress has halted at 32%. The drive's laser can be heard just going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. Halted at 32% and the current game.tao file is 2,269,511,680 bytes. I just can't win. Hotswap with eject hole is not working and using the unlock method isn't either. Any ideas why?
Post by: ipodder2003 on April 28, 2006, 11:47:00 PM
QUOTE(SniperKilla @ Apr 28 2006, 04:09 PM)
you flash it to the drive, put the xbox game in (no hotswapping needed)
open dvdinfo pro, make sure your drive is selected in the bottom left dropdown, then on the lower right dropdown pick send custom command, change the size to 12, and enter in the following.. starting from 0 and ending at 11
AD 00 FF 02 FD FF FE 00 08 00 00 C0
then click send
it will come up with some hex values, click the right most icon on the top bar, should say save to binary file.. and save it...
theres your SS
Greatly appreciated, thanks as always SniperKilla.
On a side note, has anybody found any cheap DL dvds?
Post by: Cookiesrus on April 29, 2006, 09:42:00 AM
QUOTE(darren_JJ @ Apr 28 2006, 04:24 AM)
Not yet ... Just wait ... It will only take a couple of weeks. We'll talk again soon ...
I don't see how this is development ? This is destroying.
Well, first of all I do hope they will send out a strong signal to the community by arresting this idiot. Secondly, I hope they'll start detecting and banning all cheaters from LIVE. But I seriously don't know how swift MS can respond and how difficult it will be to detect/ban all pirates/cheaters ....
Just to clarify things about editing game files.
Most hacks require an edited xbe file, for these cases applying hacks is impossible as it breaks the signature of the file and renders it unbootable. Unfortunatley Halo2's hacks work differently, you modify the map files, although they are encypted, just not to the same extent as an xbe.
Out of interest, i decided to set about making a modifed game disc simply to test if it worked and what consequences would come from using the hacked disc on xbox live.
Obviously i am not going to go into detail about what hacks were performed or how to apply them, its not that im anti hacker or anything i just dont think cheating should be on live.
So, what do we know. Bungie has a checksum in place that can detect modified maps, if you load a modified map of any sort, could be a nemisis package or simply cheats applied to a map, you will get banned. This is FACT.
I decided i would remove my HDD maps (had a modified Lockout on there) and download fresh versions from xbox live, I even went as far as deleting the updates and re downloading them just to be on the safe side.
I loaded up my modified disc and went online for around 30-40 mins about 10-20 of wich were in Team Training the rest was custom games that i created. When i signed out and tried to sign back in, I was notified that one or more players on this xbox had been permenantly suspended from matchmaking.
So for those of you that care, Bungie at least have thier bases covered. Xbox live wont die as the whole proccess of ripping a disc patching the SS, THEN modifying the game content and burning it back to a DL will be FAR to complex for 95% of the cheaters on live.
And for those of you that will flame me for even trying this, I dont play Halo 2 and for the record i dont really play much xblive at the minute, I did this out of curiosity only.
And to the cheaters, dont ask how this was done, i WILL NOT give ANY information.
Post by: ipodder2003 on April 29, 2006, 11:37:00 AM
QUOTE(Cookiesrus @ Apr 29 2006, 10:49 AM)
Just to clarify things about editing game files.
Most hacks require an edited xbe file, for these cases applying hacks is impossible as it breaks the signature of the file and renders it unbootable. Unfortunatley Halo2's hacks work differently, you modify the map files, although they are encypted, just not to the same extent as an xbe.
Out of interest, i decided to set about making a modifed game disc simply to test if it worked and what consequences would come from using the hacked disc on xbox live.
Obviously i am not going to go into detail about what hacks were performed or how to apply them, its not that im anti hacker or anything i just dont think cheating should be on live.
So, what do we know. Bungie has a checksum in place that can detect modified maps, if you load a modified map of any sort, could be a nemisis package or simply cheats applied to a map, you will get banned. This is FACT.
I decided i would remove my HDD maps (had a modified Lockout on there) and download fresh versions from xbox live, I even went as far as deleting the updates and re downloading them just to be on the safe side.
I loaded up my modified disc and went online for around 30-40 mins about 10-20 of wich were in Team Training the rest was custom games that i created. When i signed out and tried to sign back in, I was notified that one or more players on this xbox had been permenantly suspended from matchmaking.
So for those of you that care, Bungie at least have thier bases covered. Xbox live wont die as the whole proccess of ripping a disc patching the SS, THEN modifying the game content and burning it back to a DL will be FAR to complex for 95% of the cheaters on live.
And for those of you that will flame me for even trying this, I dont play Halo 2 and for the record i dont really play much xblive at the minute, I did this out of curiosity only.
And to the cheaters, dont ask how this was done, i WILL NOT give ANY information.
Post by: Cookiesrus on April 29, 2006, 05:11:00 PM
QUOTE(ipodder2003 @ Apr 29 2006, 06:44 PM)
Honestly, excellent testing. Good to know... and I'm glad that XBL won't be even more infested with cheaters.
Thanks!
Post by: Mega_mil on April 30, 2006, 05:50:00 PM
Post by: Flexmaster Frag on April 30, 2006, 07:18:00 PM
QUOTE(Mega_mil @ Apr 30 2006, 04:57 PM)
Yeah I keep hearing that they are sitting on a patch. It would make sense since the same info on xboxhacker was available to everyone so M$ probably stuck one of their crew to re-create the patch and then figure out a way to stop it. It's going to be easy with the 360 but I don't think the first xbox has a chance in hell since it's not really live-based like the 360's fashboard is. So if M$ did release a patch, you would not be able to download any demos or the other stuff.....I guess I'll go pick up a used core system to test this on once the 360 version comes out.
If you want to save a little money, you can piece together a new barebones 360 for around $140-160 if you already have the PSU.
Post by: Mega_mil on April 30, 2006, 08:49:00 PM
QUOTE(Flexmaster Frag @ May 1 2006, 02:25 AM)
If you want to save a little money, you can piece together a new barebones 360 for around $140-160 if you already have the PSU.
Really......I already have a PSU from my first 360 but do you know where I can get the rest of the parts from....???
Post by: Cookiesrus on April 30, 2006, 10:06:00 PM
QUOTE(fr0zt @ May 1 2006, 03:40 AM)
Hey, when I flashed my Samsung SDG-605 (Not SDG-605B) I first unlocked my drive with the unlocker. I then tried to flash it with MtkWinFlash and recieved the following error:
Press Browse Load A Bin/Hex And Flash.
ERR: fail to identify flash type!
Please wait a moment...
Complete! Please restart your computer
I'm just wondering if this flasher supports the SDG-605 and if this worked... Buying a DL DVD will be $10, so I don't want to buy one if I know it's not going to work. Thanks
Not 100% sure, but i think only the SDG-605B/616T/616F revisions of the drive can use this firmware, that would explain the failure to identify the flash type.
If you are paying $10 per disc it would not be worth your while trying this, I payed around $3 per disc and have a few coasters from trying to figure out where the SS data was supposed to be patched, not to mention that out of 4 samsung drives i had available only 2 of them would actually read from the second (game) layer, hence I thought SS was patched wrong and tried the sectors above and below.
Funny thing is, the samsung from my media box plays pretty much anything you throw at it, except DVD dl's, my old box that didnt believe it had a dvdrom however plays them flawlessly.
Post by: Flexmaster Frag on May 01, 2006, 05:13:00 PM
EDIT: Talked to Arakon on XBH.net and it looks like its not possible to flash via usb.
Post by: Flexmaster Frag on May 01, 2006, 08:32:00 PM
QUOTE(Textbook @ Apr 28 2006, 10:24 PM)
Not on my side. Samsung SDG-605B drive flashed with original firmware. Drive is powered by Xbox. Game was a retail copy of Halo 2 NTSC. Ripped the video.tao file fine using isoripper (and it also asked to create the video.cue file as well). Used TS's unlocker and I got the following:
CODE
Read capacity io succesful. Returned data ->
00 34 5B 5F 00 00 08 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Mode sense io succesful. Returned data ->
00 1A 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 3E 12 01 01 01 D1 01 55
99 A5 72 DF 7F 28 B4 74 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Read DVD structure IO succesful. Returned data (only first few bytes) ->
06 64 00 00 D1 0F 31 10 - 00 06 06 00 00 F9 F9 FF
00 20 33 AF 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Number of entries in challenge responste table = 23
Mode select IO succesful
Mode sense io succesful. Returned data ->
00 1A 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 3E 12 01 01 01 D1 01 C0
99 A5 72 DF 65 2D B6 F0 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Mode select IO succesful
Mode sense io succesful. Returned data ->
00 1A 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 3E 12 01 01 01 D1 01 55
99 A5 72 DF 7F 28 B4 74 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Mode select IO succesful
Mode sense io succesful. Returned data ->
00 1A 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 3E 12 01 01 01 D1 01 55
99 A5 72 DF 7F 28 B4 74 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Read capacity io succesful. Returned data ->
00 34 5B 5F 00 00 08 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Reported capacity bigger than standard xbox video partition. Unlocking seems to be succesful !
00 34 5B 5F 00 00 08 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Mode sense io succesful. Returned data ->
00 1A 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 3E 12 01 01 01 D1 01 55
99 A5 72 DF 7F 28 B4 74 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Read DVD structure IO succesful. Returned data (only first few bytes) ->
06 64 00 00 D1 0F 31 10 - 00 06 06 00 00 F9 F9 FF
00 20 33 AF 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Number of entries in challenge responste table = 23
Mode select IO succesful
Mode sense io succesful. Returned data ->
00 1A 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 3E 12 01 01 01 D1 01 C0
99 A5 72 DF 65 2D B6 F0 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Mode select IO succesful
Mode sense io succesful. Returned data ->
00 1A 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 3E 12 01 01 01 D1 01 55
99 A5 72 DF 7F 28 B4 74 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Mode select IO succesful
Mode sense io succesful. Returned data ->
00 1A 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 3E 12 01 01 01 D1 01 55
99 A5 72 DF 7F 28 B4 74 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Read capacity io succesful. Returned data ->
00 34 5B 5F 00 00 08 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
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Reported capacity bigger than standard xbox video partition. Unlocking seems to be succesful !
So then I load up isobuster and it complains about no file system. I hit cancel. Isobuster shows that the disc has 6.85GB of data, which is the correct size according to other users. Everything so far so good. Start the rip, and I get the bad sector error at 2%. Choose to replace with dummy data for all selections. Ripping continues, but very slowly. After 3 hours, the progress has halted at 32%. The drive's laser can be heard just going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. Halted at 32% and the current game.tao file is 2,269,511,680 bytes. I just can't win. Hotswap with eject hole is not working and using the unlock method isn't either. Any ideas why?
Did you set the read retries to 1 in isobuster?
Post by: Textbook on May 04, 2006, 09:30:00 AM
Alright, so I have the raw dump finally. Now, what do I need to do to make a proper ISO? Here is what I did, and it didn't work.
1. Made the raw dump using TS's unlocker with my 605A drive. Image is Halo2.tao with a filesize of 6.85gb.
2. Downloaded CarranzaFP's SS Patcher and had it extract the SS.bin from my Halo2.tao file.
(Not sure if that is the right way to do it, can anybody help me out here. I couldn't find the SS firmware)
3. Downloaded Arakon's IsoBuilder package which has a batch file and a dummy video dump. This combines the video, the SS, and the game data.
4. Re-patched in the SS using the patcher, just to make sure I would get that covered.
5. Burned using CloneCD.
The disc says it is unrecognizable in unmodded state. In modded, it autoruns as a DVD, but is just a black screen. When opened with a file manager, it looks empty.
Post by: Flexmaster Frag on May 04, 2006, 10:15:00 AM
QUOTE(Textbook @ May 4 2006, 08:37 AM)
Yeah, I set the read retries to 1. After 13 hours, it was still stuck at 32% and my laser was going crazy. I switched that SDG-605B with my 605A. Unlocked, dumped it fine in less than an hour. So...I don't know if it was just a fluke or what...but my 605B would not dump the raw data on my computer - my A did fine.
Alright, so I have the raw dump finally. Now, what do I need to do to make a proper ISO? Here is what I did, and it didn't work.
1. Made the raw dump using TS's unlocker with my 605A drive. Image is Halo2.tao with a filesize of 6.85gb.
2. Downloaded CarranzaFP's SS Patcher and had it extract the SS.bin from my Halo2.tao file.
(Not sure if that is the right way to do it, can anybody help me out here. I couldn't find the SS firmware)
3. Downloaded Arakon's IsoBuilder package which has a batch file and a dummy video dump. This combines the video, the SS, and the game data.
4. Re-patched in the SS using the patcher, just to make sure I would get that covered.
5. Burned using CloneCD.
The disc says it is unrecognizable in unmodded state. In modded, it autoruns as a DVD, but is just a black screen. When opened with a file manager, it looks empty.
The raw dump you made is the right size, but I would guess you're running into problems with the SS. Try the SS dumper firmware and see if the SS dumped matches the one found by the patcher/extractor tool.
Post by: DWells55 on May 05, 2006, 09:40:00 AM
QUOTE(chilin_dude @ Apr 26 2006, 06:50 PM)
SOMEBODY GIVE HIM THE INTERNET SHERIFF AWARD.
I love all the negative responses to me contacting Bungie. I'm not trying to stop people from hacking the Xbox or modifying firmwares - I'm all for this kind of stuff. I just hope Bungie can ban people who bring modified .map files on Live. I play legit, and I'm good at it, and the last thing I need to to get autoaimed on Zanzibar.
Post by: FoxRacR17 on May 06, 2006, 08:34:00 PM
QUOTE(DWells55 @ May 5 2006, 04:47 PM)
I love all the negative responses to me contacting Bungie. I'm not trying to stop people from hacking the Xbox or modifying firmwares - I'm all for this kind of stuff. I just hope Bungie can ban people who bring modified .map files on Live. I play legit, and I'm good at it, and the last thing I need to to get autoaimed on Zanzibar.
Post by: NEMESISRE on May 20, 2006, 12:27:00 AM
Post by: mc_atti on May 21, 2006, 03:21:00 PM
. I am not new to X-S but new to this firmware hack thing. Just had a few questions related to it and would appreciate if i get their answers. Here we go.First of all, my xbox is modded with an X3 and upgraded HD.
Now my dvd drive (Samsung 605F) does not play all of my burnt games, cd-r/rw, etc. in it. So i decided to do the mod which requires connecting a PC dvd drive to xbox with the existing xbox drive. This helps me play all my different medias. Other problem is that, i have to disconnect PC dvd rom to play original xbox games. So if i were to update my drive with the appropriate firmware, will I be able to play my existing burnt xbox dvds and originals or will I have to do the SS patching and etc. procedure? because the patching and dumping is just too complex for me. If any other solutions are there, pls let me know.
Whatever info. is provided is appreciated.
Thanks
MC
Post by: Textbook on May 22, 2006, 05:16:00 PM
Tutorials
Post by: zikronix on May 22, 2006, 07:34:00 PM
Post by: Mr Amazing on June 11, 2006, 03:10:00 AM
DVD-R DL
DVD+R DL
DVD-RW DL
DVD+RW DL
Mine seems to struggle with dvd+r as it reports them back as Unknown. I've only tested with single layer so far, still waiting on my DL discs to turn up.
Also which burning program is best and any specific changes need to be set with data type etc?
Trying not to waste these relatively expensive DL Discs
Post by: vlame on November 23, 2007, 02:07:00 AM