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Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bucko on July 24, 2005, 08:19:00 PM
What you thin of my logo for my coorperate identity.

http://www.potton-de.../stuff/logo.jpg

It has to be 300dpi so it says on the brief.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: Twasi on July 25, 2005, 12:45:00 AM
I agree it's simple but it's not bad, the only thing I don't like about it is the colors, they don't match well.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bucko on July 25, 2005, 06:54:00 AM
Cheers for that any more feeedback?
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: lostboyz on July 25, 2005, 10:12:00 AM
simple yea.......colors dont match, textures dont match. needs some work
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bucko on July 25, 2005, 03:06:00 PM
Ok what colours do you think I should choose, do you think it needs like a more glassy feel to it?
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bluedeath on July 25, 2005, 08:43:00 PM
it looks more like a button than a logo.  When it comes to logo design you should keep it simple.  Nothing looks better than a elegant streamlined logo.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bucko on July 26, 2005, 06:44:00 AM
true.dat, no it can be any style I want biggrin.gif and soon I will have to animate it in 3DStudioMax so I want to keep it quite simple.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: Twasi on July 26, 2005, 07:32:00 AM
How long have you been working with 3Dsmax? I have been trying to learn but it's alot more difficult than photoshop obviously. I can make alot of stuff by following tutorials but I'm not really learning anything just following steps. There are so many buttons and functions I can't learn any of it. If anyone knows a good way to learn how to use it I would appreciate them posting a link (I was thinking about signing up for a class but I can't find any) Btw the silver/blue looks good but it's the green that just doesnt do it for me. Maybe make the green a dark blue? I think that would look wicked especially when you throw it into 3dsmax.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bucko on July 26, 2005, 10:04:00 AM
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How long have you been working with 3Dsmax? I have been trying to learn but it's alot more difficult than photoshop obviously. I can make alot of stuff by following tutorials but I'm not really learning anything just following steps. There are so many buttons and functions I can't learn any of it. If anyone knows a good way to learn how to use it I would appreciate them posting a link (I was thinking about signing up for a class but I can't find any) Btw the silver/blue looks good but it's the green that just doesnt do it for me. Maybe make the green a dark blue? I think that would look wicked especially when you throw it into 3dsmax.



Your in the same boat as me, I've only used it like 3 times but it's my intended specializm next year (I chose web design and game design) at college so I got to make somthing in it before I go back to start my second year.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bluedeath on July 26, 2005, 11:08:00 AM
I would recommend building a solid foundation with vector graphics before jumping right into maya or 3ds.  Illustrator and flash are a great place to start.  You can gain momentum by hitting lynda learning and completing their basic tutorials (illustrator, flash, maya, 3ds).  There are several other tutorial sites that offer similar packages.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bucko on July 26, 2005, 12:50:00 PM
My second attempt.

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Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: Xdox_ on July 26, 2005, 03:21:00 PM
I think that looks good for keeping it simple maybe do a little something with the text? Add a little dropshadow perhaps.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: jaydon34 on July 26, 2005, 03:32:00 PM
Yeah i use to do freelance webdesign but hated it as a career. Practice makes perfect. Try a vector based program as someone suggested.


http://web.archive.o...efedesigns.com/

my old site check it out
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bucko on July 26, 2005, 03:54:00 PM
I tried vector stuff before not my sort of thing, I added a drop shadow and changed the text colour. Does the text colour blend in ok?

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Please give me any other feedback.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bluedeath on July 26, 2005, 04:18:00 PM
QUOTE(bucko @ Jul 26 2005, 04:05 PM)
I tried vector stuff before not my sort of thing, I added a drop shadow and changed the text colour. Does the text colour blend in ok?
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: jaydon34 on July 26, 2005, 04:22:00 PM
yeah no offense it looks like u did that mspaint
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bucko on July 26, 2005, 05:38:00 PM
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yeah no offense it looks like u did that mspaint


Make it in m$ paint then please.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: jaydon34 on July 26, 2005, 05:54:00 PM
sorry went to far. You just need some practice thats all.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bucko on July 26, 2005, 06:21:00 PM
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That is hilarious. You know that you are going to be working with polygonal based graphics which is the older brother of vector graphics. Don't tell me you are throwing your money away at on of those fake and bake game design schools.


I'm sorry I was talking about vector based work in photoshop and stuff not 3DStudioMax if thats what you mean. I really don't understand vector based stuff at the moment so thats why I want to stick to what I know for the time being.

Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: metaldevil on July 26, 2005, 08:04:00 PM
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Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: metaldevil on July 26, 2005, 08:22:00 PM
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My curiosity kicked in, and I had to run a search with that phrase (no quotation marks). The first result gave me a tutorial on replicating an owl (WTF?). The second one, however, gave me a decent explanation of vectors in PS. It's a little old because it's based on PS6... *wolf howls* Although, for some damn reason, it was "added" to the site June 30, 2005. You can read it here.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bucko on July 27, 2005, 06:18:00 AM
Thanks for the vector information it might be somthing I cover during my second year I will certainly mention it to my teachers. But this logo needs to look simple and easy on the eye, I was just looking at the EA logo. That looks even more basic that mine.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: Twasi on July 31, 2005, 06:21:00 PM
Sorry to bring up an old topic again but I was away on vacation. The logo looks good, if anyone has taken graphic design classes you know that logo's should be rather simple,(although it depends on what it's for of course) anyways I would say it looks pretty good as it is, probably shouldn't be too complicate if youre going to put it in 3dsmax I would think. Anyways I'm hoping to get into game design if not some sort of graphic design career. I know web design is cut throat since there are thousands of people who can do it and do it well but does anyone know if game design (modeling characters, etc) is just as cut throat as web design or the IT field? I was also looking at coding which the companies treat you like garbage since coders are so plentiful. Just woundering if anyone has any experience with that since I need to make a choice soon because I don't have the time to practice both.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: metaldevil on July 31, 2005, 07:18:00 PM
QUOTE(Twasi @ Jul 31 2005, 08:32 PM)
does anyone know if game design (modeling characters, etc) is just as cut throat as web design or the IT field?

I can't compare it to those fields, but I have some friends that are trying to break out on their own and are having a vicious time, and we live in Miami. I can't even imagine what it's like in California. I start my animation classes this fall. I'm going to have to work 10 times as hard as those before me because I'm getting into this field very late in the game. The huge benefit is that the software available now is much more malleable than their progenitors. My advice is to do what is fun for you. I know that sounds like a simple answer, but it's all about how much you enjoy the work you do. If you enjoy it, then it won't even seem like work. Look at all of the gaming mags around. I doubt the game reviewers find their jobs boring. Most don't even do it well. A lot of the reviews I've read are laden with misspellings and grammatical disasters (there to show possession, their meant as in they are, etc.). I think I went off on a slight tangent, but you know what I mean.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: Xdox_ on August 01, 2005, 02:55:00 PM
QUOTE(bucko @ Jul 27 2005, 02:29 PM)
Thanks for the vector information it might be somthing I cover during my second year I will certainly mention it to my teachers. But this logo needs to look simple and easy on the eye, I was just looking at the EA logo. That looks even more basic that mine.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: lostboyz on August 02, 2005, 10:28:00 AM
it really takes a lot of observation of a lot of logos to see devices and styles.

to be frank, i think you should start over. usually the font shold be the biggest thing in a logo (mostly).  look at a lot of different logos, try to figure out what you want to accomplish, how people will see it, and hardest of all keep it simple.


i have made many many logos, ill have to scrounge to find some, but ill post some examples that work, some that dont, and some that work but break rules.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: Xdox_ on August 02, 2005, 01:55:00 PM
You dont always have to do a circle type logo either, you could try something else like whatever your business is. I've done some logos for people and animations of their logos and most of the time their pretty simple but have something to do with their business in some way. I did one for this loan company and they had a little like house on their logo and i did an animation for it i'll try to dig up.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bucko on August 07, 2005, 08:30:00 AM
biggrin.gif, what you think?

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Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: Xdox_ on August 07, 2005, 08:37:00 AM
vector? just looks like text to me, but i like the idea you have going on the right.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bucko on August 07, 2005, 08:45:00 AM
well it was done in fireworks text then I did convert text to vector or somthing. But yes I have been doing vector stuff and that should scale to any size now without distortion. Should also be easier to animate in 3DSM.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: Xdox_ on August 07, 2005, 08:47:00 AM
Well yes then it would be vector. Maybe now try recreating your logo.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bucko on August 07, 2005, 08:48:00 AM
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recreating your logo.


You mean my old one? I'm slightly confused. I'd rather just use this new one.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bucko on August 07, 2005, 11:19:00 AM
tongue.gif Well I managed to and it's a lot easier now biggrin.gif
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bucko on August 07, 2005, 12:44:00 PM
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Any more thoughts? Drop shadow and R is back to normal.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bucko on August 07, 2005, 02:35:00 PM
Umm this??

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Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: Xdox_ on August 07, 2005, 07:45:00 PM
hmm i like where your going with that but you need some more, btw maybe line up the letters so there identical on both sides or did you mean to make it like that? Either way is pretty good but you need some more stuff.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: lostboyz on August 07, 2005, 07:58:00 PM
the warrior looks good, but the designs dosent flow well

here are some examples i have done practicing flow, merging or combining letters

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and here are my logos that I use for my designs

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Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bucko on August 08, 2005, 05:58:00 AM
Cool sure ill probebly put a background and textures later I'm trying to get the basic done, and I will do a seperate logo I think towards the left. The designs bit is going to be moved to the bottom.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bucko on August 08, 2005, 07:39:00 AM
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Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: Twasi on August 08, 2005, 08:26:00 PM
That is much much better than what you had, I think it would look better if the "W" wasn't all skewed, If you could make it uniform and make the right look like the left it would be much better.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bucko on August 12, 2005, 10:49:00 AM
I did this in Adobe Illustrator

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how does it look any quick suggestions this is looking good I think. Thanks for all the feedback.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: lostboyz on August 12, 2005, 11:10:00 AM
better. nice and clean but a little too generic. the dots on the I's are good but it needs something else
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bucko on August 12, 2005, 11:33:00 AM
remember it has to be very simple,I like it generic perhaps I could do somthing with both R's?
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: lostboyz on August 12, 2005, 11:41:00 AM
try this. make the Warrior part all caps and squatter and leave designs how it is

and possibly make the dotted line thing on the bottom comming off of the tail of the g going back to the start of the W. just an idea.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bucko on August 12, 2005, 12:37:00 PM
cool idea but I think that will over complicate it, im going to work at a design company on wed so ill speak to them about it. I have seen some logos that are more simple than mine from them. I really like this logo that I have done.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bucko on August 12, 2005, 01:06:00 PM
alright mate I had a go I actualy like it better. Thanks.

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Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bucko on August 12, 2005, 02:52:00 PM
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Ohhh maybe my post topic makes everyone think I'm doing a logo, my bad it's a corporate identity project


Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bucko on August 12, 2005, 03:48:00 PM
QUOTE(metaldevil @ Aug 12 2005, 10:33 PM)
Google's logo isn't forgettable. You may not remember the proper color order, but you won't forget what it looks like. I see you took offense and took my advice the wrong way. Even if you say, "Let me know what you guys think of this new 'whatever'," I'll just keep my comments to myself. Next time, state that you only want praise and not criticism. I'm sorry if I made you feel slighted.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bluedeath on August 12, 2005, 08:02:00 PM
QUOTE(bucko @ Aug 12 2005, 01:17 PM)
alright mate I had a go I actualy like it better. Thanks.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: metaldevil on August 13, 2005, 02:01:00 PM
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Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: Xdox_ on August 13, 2005, 02:54:00 PM
I actually like that, well everything except the bottom i where the dot goes up into the o, but other than that simple yet good.
Title: Corporate Identity
Post by: bucko on August 13, 2005, 04:39:00 PM
QUOTE(metaldevil @ Aug 13 2005, 09:12 PM)
Ok, I'll show you an example instead. Here's one I made that's extremely simple but works. I didn't use special shapes or anything like that. Just rectangles, the Times New Roman font, and a little bit of path work. It took me about three minutes in Illustrator. I'm not bragging; I'm just saying don't over-complicate things. beerchug.gif