Post by: Xbox-Scene on April 07, 2006, 11:45:00 PM
NES Controller to Xbox Mod-- Posted by XanTium on April 8 01:09 EST
From althack.com:
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Since wiring an NES Controller for use on an Xbox is a fairly complex mod, I've decided to break this article into 3 parts to simplify the process and give you time to shop for the tools/parts you'll need. Part I of How To: NES Controller to Xbox Mod will show you how to prepare the NES Controller for use on the Xbox. This article includes complete descriptions, an easy to follow wiring diagram, and a break down of all the tools you will need (for the entire mod).
Check it out on althack.com
Post by: Altima NEO on April 07, 2006, 11:47:00 PM
6 button genesis controller anyone?
Post by: Kampfbestie on April 08, 2006, 12:23:00 AM
Hope he will provide a driver for PC to
Since Xbox ports are nothing more than usb. It would be a charm to have an working NES-Usb Controller ;-)
Post by: nortnil on April 08, 2006, 12:45:00 AM
Post by: boddo on April 08, 2006, 02:20:00 AM
I submitted it in january to my own site, the althack sites tutorial is half a rip off of my own work and half its own, giving no credit where credit is due.
http://gflame.ath.cx/console/nesjoystik-2.html
its interesting how this surfaces a couple months after posting my own..
Post by: LastRitz on April 08, 2006, 02:33:00 AM
Long Live in the 80s (as long as your hair doesnt)!
Post by: XaRaNn on April 08, 2006, 02:56:00 AM
All it shows is how to wire a nes gamepad to a ps2 extension cord. no mention of xbox at all, and no idea why would this be usefull.
why is this on the frontpage again?
AFAIK the only way to use retro controllers (done it myself for nes and snes, seen it done here on xs forums for amiga and genesis) is to manually solder each buttion connection + ground of the old controller to the stripped down board of a regular xbox controller. Myself i used VGA extension cables.
Post by: pimpmaul69 on April 08, 2006, 03:18:00 AM
QUOTE(XaRaNn @ Apr 8 2006, 10:03 AM) 
I seriously do not get this.
All it shows is how to wire a nes gamepad to a ps2 extension cord. no mention of xbox at all, and no idea why would this be usefull.
why is this on the frontpage again?
AFAIK the only way to use retro controllers (done it myself for nes and snes, seen it done here on xs forums for amiga and genesis) is to manually solder each buttion connection + ground of the old controller to the stripped down board of a regular xbox controller. Myself i used VGA extension cables.
has no one here seen a xbox to ps2 adapter????????? do you need it spelled out for you.. here goes: 1. mod nes controller, 2. go to radioshack or somewhere and buy an xbox to ps2 adapter, 3.plug them together, 4.plug into xbox. 5.enjoy retro gaming
Post by: sumdude on April 08, 2006, 04:44:00 AM
Post by: grindar on April 08, 2006, 04:19:00 AM
Post by: deadparrot on April 08, 2006, 05:22:00 AM
Post by: Superjester on April 08, 2006, 08:19:00 AM
might I ask what other reason on why you would be wanting to do this? Looks way complex for such small rewards.
Post by: blindbug on April 08, 2006, 08:24:00 AM
1. More simple...
2. More adaptable (I.E. you can use the NES controller, bypassing the xbox controller, or it can be used via USB on a memory card port which is removable)
Post by: sircapgun on April 08, 2006, 08:36:00 AM
and use Push Button Switches for the additional buttons housed in a customized project box (R.TRIGGER, L.TRIGGER, R.THUMB, L.THUMB, X, Y, BLACK, WHITE). The NES Controller is hooked up to the Project Box via the PS2 Connector, and the Project Box is hooked up to the Xbox via the cord off the modded Mad Catz Controller. I divided the Article in Parts to give people the chance to get all the things they need to perform the mod, and I figured the span of 3 days wouldn't be too bad.BTW. I don't appreciate being considered a theif. I've received an email saying I "stole" images of an NES PCB for use in this mod. In fact, the accusing person(s) has sent me a link to what I have taken, and quite frankly it looks as though someone got out a box of Crayola and instructed a small child to draw an NES PCB. I used a program called InkScape for my diagram of the NES PCB. It is completely vector and further proof can be shown if need be.
Part II of this Article will be up shortly today and Part III should be up tomorrow showing the completed mod. If anyone deserves credit they will receive it in Part III, and quite frankly the community of Xbox-Scene as a whole deserves the credit, because without them I wouldn't even know where to start with any form of Xbox Modding.
Thank You,
Jordan Roberts
Post by: kolink on April 08, 2006, 09:32:00 AM
Post by: Zeck on April 08, 2006, 09:37:00 AM
Post by: sircapgun on April 08, 2006, 11:03:00 AM
Post by: sircapgun on April 08, 2006, 12:31:00 PM
QUOTE(SharkUW @ Apr 8 2006, 02:14 PM)
Why not just make a box with ports for nes, snes, genesis, ps1. Have the box contain an xbox controller card and then push the works to the xbox? Seems a lot simpler and one wouldn't have to have a bunch of adapters sitting around.
I was thinking of doing something like that using a VGA Switching Box with multiple VGA Ports, but my only issue was that I didn't have all those controllers. Plus, wiring all those D-Subs would have been a pain..
Post by: pimpmaul69 on April 08, 2006, 01:17:00 PM
Post by: XaRaNn on April 08, 2006, 10:22:00 PM
QUOTE(sircapgun @ Apr 8 2006, 10:43 AM)
Just to let everyone know, I am the author of this article on AltHack.com. It has been mislabeled everywhere it has been posted. This Article is PART I of III. The idea is to route the NES controls through an existing Xbox Controller (UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT, START, SELECT(BACK),A,
and use Push Button Switches for the additional buttons housed in a customized project box (R.TRIGGER, L.TRIGGER, R.THUMB, L.THUMB, X, Y, BLACK, WHITE). The NES Controller is hooked up to the Project Box via the PS2 Connector, and the Project Box is hooked up to the Xbox via the cord off the modded Mad Catz Controller. I divided the Article in Parts to give people the chance to get all the things they need to perform the mod, and I figured the span of 3 days wouldn't be too bad.BTW. I don't appreciate being considered a theif. I've received an email saying I "stole" images of an NES PCB for use in this mod. In fact, the accusing person(s) has sent me a link to what I have taken, and quite frankly it looks as though someone got out a box of Crayola and instructed a small child to draw an NES PCB. I used a program called InkScape for my diagram of the NES PCB. It is completely vector and further proof can be shown if need be.
Part II of this Article will be up shortly today and Part III should be up tomorrow showing the completed mod. If anyone deserves credit they will receive it in Part III, and quite frankly the community of Xbox-Scene as a whole deserves the credit, because without them I wouldn't even know where to start with any form of Xbox Modding.
Thank You,
Jordan Roberts
Your probably being dense on purpose, but the "thief" part comes from the fact you present all this like it's your idea, while there was a tutorial posted for amiga then genesis YEARS AGO, not to mention the several people from xbox-scene forums who have made similar hacks and posted pictures.
Post by: sircapgun on April 08, 2006, 11:46:00 PM
QUOTE(XaRaNn @ Apr 9 2006, 01:29 AM)
Your probably being dense on purpose, but the "thief" part comes from the fact you present all this like it's your idea, while there was a tutorial posted for amiga then genesis YEARS AGO, not to mention the several people from xbox-scene forums who have made similar hacks and posted pictures.
I shouldn't have to explain this to everyone, but instead of having EVERYONE jumping to conclusions and finger pointing, I guess I'll just save a few more people some keystrokes. Well if anyone would consider the fact that only Part I and Part II have been posted and there's still a Part III to be posted tomorrow....... Where do Credits usually go? At the end? Yes. There's several sources that I site at the end of Part III.
Included in those sources are bek (Amiga Mod you mentioned), Ted (who years ago modded a Dreamcast controller with an NES on DevCast), Xbox-Scene as a whole (the site that got me into all this in the first place), my Brother (a walking electrical encyclopedia), http://pinouts.ru/, etc... Never once in these guides have I put myself on some pedestal as the "Great Innovator of Controller Mods." I am just writing something that hopefully people might find some use in, plain and simple.
And what's with the instant insults around here all of a sudden? I express somewhat of a mature view and get slammed... Come on people!
Post by: pimpmaul69 on April 08, 2006, 11:51:00 PM
QUOTE(XaRaNn @ Apr 9 2006, 05:29 AM)
Your probably being dense on purpose, but the "thief" part comes from the fact you present all this like it's your idea, while there was a tutorial posted for amiga then genesis YEARS AGO, not to mention the several people from xbox-scene forums who have made similar hacks and posted pictures.
you know ive made tons of mods that i didnt realise someone else did.. its a big world out there.. not everyone sees every mod out there on the one site of a trillion sites out there... and personally i was inspired to do a mod from this tut.. the other one looks like ass and uninspiring to me... it is the world wide web where you share info... if you have a problem dont freakin cry about it, get a freaking patent.. oh wait... you cant get a patent on a mod your taking from someone elses copyrighted product!!! learn what a community forum is here for... to help others and thats all he did...this is why i stopped all my work with stepmania... all everyone did was whine and cry about someone stealing their work that they stole from someone else and cried about why they werent credited for it.. and it was a community forum based on helping each other.. personally i told everyone to feel free to steal all my work and hope it helped them.. cause if it wasnt i would be doing it for some big wig corporation and not for free
Post by: boddo on April 09, 2006, 11:32:00 AM
hahaha
Post by: Zeck on April 09, 2006, 11:39:00 AM
Post by: africamagical on April 09, 2006, 12:16:00 PM
Post by: coxII on April 09, 2006, 10:44:00 PM
BTW boddo,in your emails, u told me you were a loyal member of xbox scene but yet you just joined on the 8th of april, did you just join so that you could yell at us?And if you had this mod done in 2003 why was there nothing until 2006? Did you somehow forget you were the creater of this mod. how does being a two day old member make you a loyal member, i am confused. ne1 wanna clear this up for me? And i am sure i will get something to the extenet that "oh well you are only a two day old member also", well ppl i never self proclaimed that i was a "loyal member" of the scene. I just recently found the site thanks to boddo's complaining to me.
coxII
Althack.com
P.S. i am not trying to defend sicapgun/mrc.clean/jordan i am just trying to put it out here for everyone to see, plus i am tired of my inbox getting filled with hate mail from his website.
Post by: pimpmaul69 on April 10, 2006, 01:04:00 AM
QUOTE(Zeck @ Apr 9 2006, 06:46 PM)
Not to bring up an old matter, but has anyone wrote a reasonably detailed guide (Pictures probally not even needed) as to how to wire a Saturn controller for an Xbox? I know it seems a bit odd but, if anyone has seen one or has wrote/can write, can they please link me or do so? Thanks.
hey zeck it is quite easy to do the 15 pin vga mod.. put a female end on the xbox controller ( i say female end cause the male end would break first i wouldnt want to have to open up the controller to fix) and wire all the buttons inside the xbox controller to each pin...write down what pins go to what and then just make them match on the other controller
Post by: sircapgun on April 10, 2006, 10:22:00 AM
QUOTE(sweetbrett @ Apr 10 2006, 09:23 AM)
i gotta say i was a little disapointed when i got to the article and saw the picture of the finished product. I guess i'll have to wait until the 3rd part is released (i only saw one and two, maybe i'm missing it), but the picture of the final product has me baffled...Do you have to use that huge box and the nes controller together? Is that huge box suposed to be like a arcade controller? I was hoping the mod was just going to be a NES controller straight in to the xbox w/ an adapter, maybe a few extra buttons modded in to the nes controller.
If that huge box is necessary (which i assume it is because it houses the madcatz controller parts, which are used to interface with the xbox), I'd like to see the original NES controller not be modded at all, just simply plug it in to the box which acts like an adapter, and away you go.
also, the dude forgot to put LEDs everywhere
The project box isn't "necessary", but it makes things a lot easier for those who aren't good at cramming wires and such into the Xbox Controller itself. Plus, adding extra buttons to the NES controller would have required using a VGA cord as the connection and I found the PS2 Connector to be the easiest. It's all a matter of preference, so once Part III is up (tonight) then you can pick it all apart and make something completely new.
Post by: xerxes3rd on April 10, 2006, 11:03:00 AM
QUOTE(africamagical @ Apr 9 2006, 07:23 PM)
could somebody post a link to the tuts using the vga cord? i read it a while, back but i cant find it via search anymore, thanks
Here is the article on how to wire up a Genesis controller for use on an Xbox using a VGA cable:
http://www.xerxes3rd...ontrollerOnXbox
Back when I wrote that article (I think it was mid-2004 when it was originally posted on the hardmods.net forums), I made no attempt to submit it as a news article to xbox-scene news. Apparently the author (or someone) of the NES to Xbox adapter (sircapgun) submitted his guide as news, and the moderators of xbox-scene agreed that it was important enough news to be posted on xbox-scene. It doesn't appear that sircapgun claims that his work is entirely original; in fact, he stated in one of his posts that he gives credit to the author of the Amiga to Xbox controller guide, which I utilized as well in my guide.
I think the issue here is that some people don't think a NES to Xbox adapter article should be posted as news on xbox-scene. If you have an issue with this, take it up with the xbox-scene moderators, not with sircapgun.
Post by: sircapgun on April 10, 2006, 12:18:00 PM
QUOTE(xerxes3rd @ Apr 10 2006, 01:10 PM)
Here is the article on how to wire up a Genesis controller for use on an Xbox using a VGA cable:
http://www.xerxes3rd...ontrollerOnXbox
Back when I wrote that article (I think it was mid-2004 when it was originally posted on the hardmods.net forums), I made no attempt to submit it as a news article to xbox-scene news. Apparently the author (or someone) of the NES to Xbox adapter (sircapgun) submitted his guide as news, and the moderators of xbox-scene agreed that it was important enough news to be posted on xbox-scene. It doesn't appear that sircapgun claims that his work is entirely original; in fact, he stated in one of his posts that he gives credit to the author of the Amiga to Xbox controller guide, which I utilized as well in my guide.
I think the issue here is that some people don't think a NES to Xbox adapter article should be posted as news on xbox-scene. If you have an issue with this, take it up with the xbox-scene moderators, not with sircapgun.
Well, actually I didn't submit anything to Xbox-Scene for news. I was shocked to wake up the next day after posting my guide to see it on the front page as a news item. Ever since, people have continued to have a fit about it, but oh well. I'm happy the mods decided to post it, but please let me clarify that I didn't submit ANYTHING to them...
Post by: pimpmaul69 on April 10, 2006, 05:22:00 PM
QUOTE(xerxes3rd @ Apr 10 2006, 06:10 PM)
Here is the article on how to wire up a Genesis controller for use on an Xbox using a VGA cable:
http://www.xerxes3rd...ontrollerOnXbox
Back when I wrote that article (I think it was mid-2004 when it was originally posted on the hardmods.net forums), I made no attempt to submit it as a news article to xbox-scene news. Apparently the author (or someone) of the NES to Xbox adapter (sircapgun) submitted his guide as news, and the moderators of xbox-scene agreed that it was important enough news to be posted on xbox-scene. It doesn't appear that sircapgun claims that his work is entirely original; in fact, he stated in one of his posts that he gives credit to the author of the Amiga to Xbox controller guide, which I utilized as well in my guide.
I think the issue here is that some people don't think a NES to Xbox adapter article should be posted as news on xbox-scene. If you have an issue with this, take it up with the xbox-scene moderators, not with sircapgun.
the link is dead
Post by: sircapgun on April 10, 2006, 09:55:00 PM
BTW, the whole guide is online now so I am open for suggestions/criticism (even though I have had a lot
)
Post by: pimpmaul69 on April 11, 2006, 02:53:00 AM
QUOTE(sircapgun @ Apr 11 2006, 05:02 AM)
That link worked fine for me..
BTW, the whole guide is online now so I am open for suggestions/criticism (even though I have had a lot
)yeah works for me now
Post by: boomd on October 10, 2006, 08:53:00 PM
Post by: Barney_1 on October 11, 2006, 07:47:00 AM