Post by: novakpower on December 07, 2005, 10:22:00 AM
Post by: xalvalt on December 07, 2005, 11:07:00 AM
Post by: BigSteel on December 07, 2005, 11:10:00 AM
Post by: deadparrot on December 07, 2005, 11:15:00 AM
Post by: novakpower on December 07, 2005, 10:34:00 PM
QUOTE(deadparrot @ Dec 7 2005, 12:22 PM) 
You can have partitions up to 2TB without corruption, but ONLY if you format with 64k clusters instead of 32k.
Thanks for the information. I assume there is a special format program to do the 64k cluster partition format? I remember reading about this to, but was fairly untested at the time. Do the drives formatted to 64k run well with most xbox apps and games?
Post by: slingshot2170 on December 07, 2005, 10:54:00 PM
Post by: Pikkon on December 08, 2005, 12:25:00 AM
Post by: The Zep Man on December 08, 2005, 02:55:00 AM
@Pikkon
What Xbox-application can format Xbox FATX-partitions with 64k clusters and is this by default supported on every BIOS?
Post by: lordvader129 on December 08, 2005, 09:19:00 AM
QUOTE
My understanding is that any partition over 250GB will start to become corrupt. So, using F&G on a 400GB should be no problem.
partitions over 256gb become corrupt
QUOTE
You can have partitions up to 2TB without corruption, but ONLY if you format with 64k clusters instead of 32k.
32k cluster partitions get corrupt at 512gb, 64k will corrupt at 1024gb (1tb) there is currently no app to format with 64k clusters (not needed since there are no HDs that big yet)
QUOTE
What Xbox-application can format Xbox FATX-partitions with 64k clusters and is this by default supported on every BIOS?
xbpartitioner will automatically use 32k clusters on any partition it formats over 256gb
i believe your bios must be set to look at the HD partition table ("ignore HD partition table" box in xbtool is unchecked)
320gb and 400gb drives are fine using normal F+G partitioning (no special actions or apps needed) or using when xbpartioner to format large F
Post by: deadparrot on December 08, 2005, 10:20:00 AM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Dec 8 2005, 02:26 PM)
32k cluster partitions get corrupt at 512gb, 64k will corrupt at 1024gb (1tb) there is currently no app to format with 64k clusters (not needed since there are no HDs that big yet)
I've been lied to! Damn. I'll remember this then.
Post by: lordvader129 on December 08, 2005, 10:45:00 AM
QUOTE(deadparrot @ Dec 8 2005, 11:27 AM)
I've been lied to! Damn. I'll remember this then.
heh, theres alot of information flaoting around about this, problem is alot of it is wrong
the xbox default is 16k clusters, this causes data to corrupt at 256gb on a single partition, you cna format with 32k clusters to increase partition size to 512gb, theoretically you can use 64k clusters to go to 1024gb and 128k to put a full 2tb on a single partition
of course with each of these the minimum filesize is increases to the cluster size, resulting in more slack, by 64k and 128k it might not be worth it (although 64k would ne necessary if an IDE drive larger than 1tb is ever released)
Post by: novakpower on December 08, 2005, 10:13:00 PM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Dec 8 2005, 11:52 AM)
heh, theres alot of information flaoting around about this, problem is alot of it is wrong
the xbox default is 16k clusters, this causes data to corrupt at 256gb on a single partition, you cna format with 32k clusters to increase partition size to 512gb, theoretically you can use 64k clusters to go to 1024gb and 128k to put a full 2tb on a single partition
of course with each of these the minimum filesize is increases to the cluster size, resulting in more slack, by 64k and 128k it might not be worth it (although 64k would ne necessary if an IDE drive larger than 1tb is ever released)
Thanks for the info Vader. How compatible are the 32k cluster sizes when using xbox apps and games?
Post by: xboxgamer733 on December 08, 2005, 10:27:00 PM
Post by: PIRATA! on March 30, 2006, 09:22:00 AM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Dec 8 2005, 06:26 PM) 
id like to clear a few things up in here
partitions over 256gb become corrupt
32k cluster partitions get corrupt at 512gb, 64k will corrupt at 1024gb (1tb) there is currently no app to format with 64k clusters (not needed since there are no HDs that big yet)
xbpartitioner will automatically use 32k clusters on any partition it formats over 256gb
i believe your bios must be set to look at the HD partition table ("ignore HD partition table" box in xbtool is unchecked)
320gb and 400gb drives are fine using normal F+G partitioning (no special actions or apps needed) or using when xbpartioner to format large F
Here is the answer I was looking for.
I have to place a WD 320Gb hdd in my XBox 1.1.
How must I act to format it?? Must I format the complete hdd with the EvolutionX build in action for formatting drives and AFTER IT go to format ONLY the F partition with Xboxpartitioner, OR must I partition ALL the hdd using Xbpartitioner??
In case I have to partition ALL the drive using Xbpartitioner, can I manage to give to C, E, X, Y and Z some dimensions I prefere, or MUST they be big as the EvolutionX build in action formats it???
In case I MUST leave them as big as they are, should I format them ONLY to give them a 32k cluster partition or even here MUST I leave them as they are???
PLEASE let me know because I am waiting you guys for formatting. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: Necrophiliac on March 30, 2006, 02:04:00 PM
Post by: cerealkillajme on March 30, 2006, 04:00:00 PM
Boot your X3 Config Live and go into "Customize X3 Bios" then go down to "LBA 48 Mode" and change that. You might have to format the G partiition first, but you can do that with the X3 Config Live also.
Post by: PIRATA! on March 30, 2006, 04:50:00 PM
QUOTE(PIRATA! @ Mar 30 2006, 06:29 PM)
Here is the answer I was looking for.
I have to place a WD 320Gb hdd in my XBox 1.1.
How must I act to format it?? Must I format the complete hdd with the EvolutionX build in action for formatting drives and AFTER IT go to format ONLY the F partition with Xboxpartitioner, OR must I partition ALL the hdd using Xbpartitioner??
In case I have to partition ALL the drive using Xbpartitioner, can I manage to give to C, E, X, Y and Z some dimensions I prefere, or MUST they be big as the EvolutionX build in action formats it???
In case I MUST leave them as big as they are, should I format them ONLY to give them a 32k cluster partition or even here MUST I leave them as they are???
PLEASE let me know because I am waiting you guys for formatting. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
PLEASE HELP!!
Post by: Necrophiliac on March 30, 2006, 05:08:00 PM
QUOTE(cerealkillajme @ Mar 30 2006, 06:07 PM)
Richmond in the house!!!
Boot your X3 Config Live and go into "Customize X3 Bios" then go down to "LBA 48 Mode" and change that. You might have to format the G partiition first, but you can do that with the X3 Config Live also.
Yeah, thats how I formatted it to begin with (Using LBA48 Mode only i sent all to F). By doing that can I create a G partition without erasing anything else? (there is still pletny of room on my hard drive)
And PIRATA!, what kind of mod chip do you have?
Post by: cerealkillajme on March 30, 2006, 05:13:00 PM
Post by: PIRATA! on March 30, 2006, 05:17:00 PM
QUOTE(Necrophiliac @ Mar 31 2006, 02:15 AM)
.....
And PIRATA!, what kind of mod chip do you have?
I have an Xecuter2.1Light.
I have flashed last Xecuter2 Bios "x2_5035_vOld_512k.bin" with success. Now XBpartitioner loads good with NO messages telling me that I don't have any support for LBA48 2 support.
Is this bios set to give me a Big F partition with NO G partition?? This is what I am serching: I need to have a really big F partition with a WD 320Gb (that aproximately should be about 310Gb without C,E,X,Y,Z partitons).
Is this bios good or do I have to mod it or what else?? Is there a way from XBpartitioner to see if its settled to have a BigF??
After this, is it good to change size to C,E,X,Y,Z???
Shell I format ALL of them plus my BigF partition with 32k clusters??
Thank you.
Post by: Necrophiliac on March 30, 2006, 05:17:00 PM
QUOTE(cerealkillajme @ Mar 30 2006, 07:20 PM)
I think you can do it that way. I'm able to change mine in my bios, but I have no way to test it to see if it works, I don't have a HD big enough. Either way I would think it would work fine because F is already present and if you don't have any more than 137gigs worth of stuff then you have nothing to lose to try it.
Next time they come visit Ill have to have them bring it up and try it in x3 config live like you said. Worst case senerio theyll just have to figure out how to put their DVDs back into DVD2Xbox themselves (since Ive only explained the whole "hit A hit start" etc thing a million times.
Post by: PIRATA! on March 31, 2006, 04:58:00 AM
QUOTE(PIRATA! @ Mar 31 2006, 02:24 AM)
I have an Xecuter2.1Light.
I have flashed last Xecuter2 Bios "x2_5035_vOld_512k.bin" with success. Now XBpartitioner loads good with NO messages telling me that I don't have any support for LBA48 2 support.
Is this bios set to give me a Big F partition with NO G partition?? This is what I am serching: I need to have a really big F partition with a WD 320Gb (that aproximately should be about 310Gb without C,E,X,Y,Z partitons).
Is this bios good or do I have to mod it or what else?? Is there a way from XBpartitioner to see if its settled to have a BigF??
After this, is it good to change size to C,E,X,Y,Z???
Shell I format ALL of them plus my BigF partition with 32k clusters??
Thank you.
Please HELP me on this!
Post by: Necrophiliac on March 31, 2006, 07:07:00 AM
QUOTE(PIRATA! @ Mar 31 2006, 07:05 AM)
I have an Xecuter2.1Light.
I have flashed last Xecuter2 Bios "x2_5035_vOld_512k.bin" with success. Now XBpartitioner loads good with NO messages telling me that I don't have any support for LBA48 2 support.
Is this bios set to give me a Big F partition with NO G partition?? This is what I am serching: I need to have a really big F partition with a WD 320Gb (that aproximately should be about 310Gb without C,E,X,Y,Z partitons).
Is this bios good or do I have to mod it or what else?? Is there a way from XBpartitioner to see if its settled to have a BigF??
After this, is it good to change size to C,E,X,Y,Z???
Shell I format ALL of them plus my BigF partition with 32k clusters??
Thank you.
Please HELP me on this!
I've only worked with Xecuter 3's but you should try to get the most recent bios (generally doesnt have "vOld" in the name). TeamXecuter's website lists v5032 as their most recent bios for the X2, so Head over to "the usual places" and download v5032 - 512k and flash that. Again, I don't really know anything about the Xecuter 2 but the X3 has something called "Config Live" where you can do a number of things including drive partitioning using LBA48 support. Also with the X3 if you have a different dash set you can always reaccess it by holding the white button down throughout the boot/flubber/startup procedure. Sorry I can't be of more help , perhaps someone with experience using the Xecuter 2 can help you. I would try to get the most recent bios though.
Post by: PIRATA! on March 31, 2006, 08:10:00 AM
QUOTE(Necrophiliac @ Mar 31 2006, 04:14 PM)
I've only worked with Xecuter 3's but you should try to get the most recent bios (generally doesnt have "vOld" in the name). TeamXecuter's website lists v5032 as their most recent bios for the X2, so Head over to "the usual places" and download v5032 - 512k and flash that. Again, I don't really know anything about the Xecuter 2 but the X3 has something called "Config Live" where you can do a number of things including drive partitioning using LBA48 support. Also with the X3 if you have a different dash set you can always reaccess it by holding the white button down throughout the boot/flubber/startup procedure. Sorry I can't be of more help , perhaps someone with experience using the Xecuter 2 can help you. I would try to get the most recent bios though.
Wait.. its exactly the same.
My "vOLD" is because I have an OLD version ov XBox, "ver.1.1", and not last "1.6". Infact the last bios for X2 is "5035" that is provided in two different versions: vOLD or XBox 1.0 to 1.5, and "v16plus" that is for all 1.6 XBox.
I have so the LAST X2 bios that has FULL LBA48 support. Infatc XBpartitioner works good.
My only doubts are in HOW TO USE XBpartitioner. I have to use a BigF partition and the bios I have flashed is settled up to have BigF, so the bios is OK. Now, these are the questions related to XBpartitioner:
- can I CHANGE fisically the size of partitions C,E,X,Y,Z or MUST they have original XBox size?????
- if haveing a BigF partition formatted with 32k clusters, MUST I format ALL other partitions with "32k clusters" either or MUST I keep them as they are???
- is there a "one-for-all" command that can create/format ALL partitions with a BigF bigger then 250Gb (I think that should format it all in 32k clustes)???????
Please let me know. Thank you.
This post has been edited by PIRATA!: Mar 31 2006, 04:13 PM
Post by: Necrophiliac on March 31, 2006, 08:24:00 AM
These are good questions, unfortunately I do not have the answers.
Post by: PIRATA! on March 31, 2006, 07:05:00 PM
QUOTE(PIRATA! @ Mar 31 2006, 05:17 PM)
Wait.. its exactly the same.
My "vOLD" is because I have an OLD version ov XBox, "ver.1.1", and not last "1.6". Infact the last bios for X2 is "5035" that is provided in two different versions: vOLD or XBox 1.0 to 1.5, and "v16plus" that is for all 1.6 XBox.
I have so the LAST X2 bios that has FULL LBA48 support. Infatc XBpartitioner works good.
My only doubts are in HOW TO USE XBpartitioner. I have to use a BigF partition and the bios I have flashed is settled up to have BigF, so the bios is OK. Now, these are the questions related to XBpartitioner:
- can I CHANGE fisically the size of partitions C,E,X,Y,Z or MUST they have original XBox size?????
- if haveing a BigF partition formatted with 32k clusters, MUST I format ALL other partitions with "32k clusters" either or MUST I keep them as they are???
- is there a "one-for-all" command that can create/format ALL partitions with a BigF bigger then 250Gb (I think that should format it all in 32k clustes)???????
Please let me know. Thank you.
Please HELP!!
Post by: Textbook on March 31, 2006, 10:30:00 PM
I have never used XBpartitioner, but I can answer one of your questions
...I know, it's not much help, but it's better than nothing...
You CANNOT change the partition sizes of C, E, X, Y, or Z. The only changes we can make are to the F and G drives.
I don't know about the other two questions, sorry.
@Lordvader, you mentioned minimum filesizes with each filesystem: FATX, FATX16, FATX32
Would you happen to know these minimum filesizes? This may be an answer to an unrelated question on a different topic.
For example, NKPatcher 11 for softmods has a function where it can disable ShadowC if there is a file titled "ShadowC_off.bin" in the E:/drive. It can be any file, because it just goes off of the title. So, I just opened notepad, didn't type anything, and saved it as ShadowC_off.bin and FTP'ed it over. Well, it did what it was suppossed to, it disabled the Shadow C. And I can see the file in a file manager, so it's definitely there. But if I check the file size on my computer, it is 0 bytes. How is this possible?
This post has been edited by Textbook: Apr 1 2006, 06:35 AM
Post by: PIRATA! on April 01, 2006, 06:34:00 AM
QUOTE(Textbook @ Apr 1 2006, 07:37 AM)
@PIRATA,
I have never used XBpartitioner, but I can answer one of your questions
...I know, it's not much help, but it's better than nothing...
You CANNOT change the partition sizes of C, E, X, Y, or Z. The only changes we can make are to the F and G drives.
I don't know about the other two questions, sorry.
....
Thank you very much!
I'll go for it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Post by: nachomans on May 12, 2006, 04:45:00 PM
The bios is xecuter2 4983, so this bios wont work?
Post by: lordvader129 on May 12, 2006, 04:50:00 PM
QUOTE(nachomans @ May 12 2006, 06:52 PM)
When I load xbpartiotioner...says that bios doenst have LBA 2 support...
The bios is xecuter2 4983, so this bios wont work?
The bios is xecuter2 4983, so this bios wont work?
ive had problems with x2 biox and xbpartitioner because the x2 bios overrides the HD partition table (which xbpartioner uses)
Post by: nachomans on May 12, 2006, 05:51:00 PM
So...should I change to an M8plus?
About M8plus.....Evtool lets you chosse IRG, "quick" and "more compatible"
Both are implemented on the bios?? Or that depends on evox dash?
Post by: nachomans on May 14, 2006, 01:47:00 AM
So....I think that X2 4983, 4981, 82 are not recommended for 32k clusters (needed for 250+gb in F.....)
Post by: bourke on September 13, 2006, 07:42:00 AM
I.e. I have installed a 400Gb drive into my v1.6b Xbox and then installed NkPatcher 11 using Krayzie's installer.
Then I formatted the F drive partition (380Gb) using 32k sectors in XBpartitioner.
Will this work?
Post by: Liquidvlade Hiraduo on November 13, 2006, 12:43:00 PM
Post by: snper on November 13, 2006, 03:51:00 PM