Post by: lostboyz on June 19, 2006, 07:04:00 AM
Just trying to pull a lot of information before making a final decision so if you have any opinion let me know.
and if your opinion is crotch rockets are gay or anything like that I dont need to hear it.
Post by: Wolves on June 19, 2006, 12:12:00 PM
But on a more serious note, look for a bike not by looks, but by feel. Every motorcycle has it's own 'feel' to ride it. When you go to buy one, make sure you test drive it so you can tell if the feel of it suits your driving style. That's the best advice I can give.
Post by: Rylinkus on June 19, 2006, 02:04:00 PM
QUOTE(Wolves @ Jun 19 2006, 07:19 PM) 
Call up the Teutels and get them to make you a Wal-Mart themed bike?
But on a more serious note, look for a bike not by looks, but by feel. Every motorcycle has it's own 'feel' to ride it. When you go to buy one, make sure you test drive it so you can tell if the feel of it suits your driving style. That's the best advice I can give.
And make sure you budget for proper protective gear. Remember, on a bike all that's between you and the pavement is whatever you're wearing. So make sure you have money for a decent helmet, jacket and gloves. A helmets 100 bucks and up. Gloves can run from maybe 40-way too much. And a decent armored jacket probably starts @ 160 or better assuming you look for last years models and such. My Icon jacket cost 400 bucks new. But should I ever go down itll be worth every penny. Just want to give you the heads up that a 3000 dollar bike may require another 500 or 600. And for the love of god make sure a qualified mechanic looks it over. A slightly worn tire or warped rotor may not be a big deal on a car, but then again you dont need to balance a car. So again, you could find yourself needing a few hundred bucks in tires, brakes, chain, etc. Keeping it in tip top shape is the only way to ride safely.
Post by: lostboyz on June 19, 2006, 03:01:00 PM
right now im between mid to late 90's ninja 600cc, as I have riden my friend kawasaki 600 that is basically a 2001 ninja but sport/touring version. forget the exact model he has
same years of CBR, or GSX-R. All can be acquired for about $2,500-$3k. I got a budget right now for protective gear so I set that aside.
Post by: Rylinkus on June 19, 2006, 05:19:00 PM
Post by: lostboyz on June 19, 2006, 05:24:00 PM
Post by: Rylinkus on June 23, 2006, 09:01:00 PM
QUOTE(lostboyz @ Jun 20 2006, 12:31 AM)
yea I was looking at the YZF R6 as well, I rode on my buddies kawasaki and he said its more less the same model as the late 90s ninja's so I just assumed Id like them. But Im going to do a thorough check on anything before I buy.
Yeah, at least do a little research and ride a few things. A GSXR and Ninja will be a bit more hunched over and may be harder on your body for a ride of more then an hour. And frankly Kawasakis feel cheesy to me. Honestly, there's a reason there's so many GSXRs on the roads. There REALLY nice bikes.
Bare in mind for 2500 you could also get a car. Which would allow passengers and be drivable in any weather.
Post by: GearGuy2001 on June 23, 2006, 10:06:00 PM
Prior to my dads current Harley he had a Honda CB 500. You don't sit hunched over and it had a nice seat, plus the clutch wasnt hard to pull in like on harleys.
What you could do is see if your city has a public auction and pick up a used police cruiser or public works vehicle. Just an idea.
Post by: yaazz on June 25, 2006, 06:21:00 AM
I got a brand new helmet and armored jacket for 250 bucks, so I got lucky, but you definitley need it. Once you wear the jacket you will feel naked without it
but like the other guy, id just look into a cheap car like a geo or a toyota or something. My little brother just got a 4 cyl ranger in almost immaculate condition (needed brake lines for the back wheels) for 200 bucks, no joke. Cheap cars are out there if you look, i would set your max at 500 bucks and see what you find
Oh and I saw a 400 dollar jeep the other day
Post by: lostboyz on June 25, 2006, 12:36:00 PM
My dad just bought an '03 or '04 rav4, nice little SUV nice safety cheap parts. Insurance for him as primary is $700 a year. Me as secondary is $2100 a year and me as primary is $2400 a year. I have no points on my license its simply because I am 20 years old. So cars arent worth it in my mind. I simply want some form of transportation that is cheap because Id think Id go bonkers without some means of leaving somewhere, that and I love to drive.
Post by: Rylinkus on June 25, 2006, 05:15:00 PM
QUOTE(lostboyz @ Jun 25 2006, 07:43 PM)
nope car is out of the question, its not the price of buying it its insurance. my friends brand new kawasaki is $800 a year.
My dad just bought an '03 or '04 rav4, nice little SUV nice safety cheap parts. Insurance for him as primary is $700 a year. Me as secondary is $2100 a year and me as primary is $2400 a year. I have no points on my license its simply because I am 20 years old. So cars arent worth it in my mind. I simply want some form of transportation that is cheap because Id think Id go bonkers without some means of leaving somewhere, that and I love to drive.
So buy a cheap car and put only liability on it and it wont be expensive. If you can only have one vehicle, which based on money you cant afford more, youd be far better off to buy something more practical. IE, can drive in the rain, snow, have a passenger, use to go buy groceries. Honestly I love my Camaro and Bike, but certainly wouldnt be able to own either if I didnt have my van.
And remember, the bikes arent made to take the milage a car will. They require a decent amount of upkeep if you constantly ride them to keep everything in perfect working order and safe.
Post by: lostboyz on June 25, 2006, 07:51:00 PM
Post by: Rylinkus on June 26, 2006, 09:05:00 AM
QUOTE(lostboyz @ Jun 26 2006, 02:58 AM)
yea Thanks again for all the input, A lot is going into my decisions (which are a good 6 months off at best) a lot of things I havent thought about
Verify insurance costs of liability only vs liability only on other vehicles. Most people don't put full coverage on a bike. And if they do, bikes are generally cheaper so it still may be cheaper full coverage vs. full coverage. To compare insurace prices on your dad's 2 year old SUV which is probably still valued @ 15k or so vs a motorcycle which probably isn't 15k BRAND NEW is a bad comparison @ best. Plus most insurances are expecting you to put more miles on a car then a bike and are basing rates in that manner as well. If I drive my car twice as much as my bike I've got twice the oppurtunity to wreck it. So if you claim a bike as the only mode of transport you have it may be a bit more costly than someone like me who has a van listed as his primary mode of conveyance.
So I guess, just make sure you know the prices both ways before you assume one's more expesive then the other. My bud just bought a year old GSX-R 750 for 7K. He's got full coverage on it, is older than me, has a better driving record than me, and is not using it as a primary ride. I can promise you he's paying more to insure that then I am my van. So if costs an issue, make sure to examine all your options. Upkeep on a bike is FAR more crucial then on a normal ride as a warped rotor may make my van or camaro pull to one side but I wont go down. Meaning I can put off a van rotor a week if I dont have cash and still feel ok driving it. The bike..... not so much.
Post by: lostboyz on June 26, 2006, 09:56:00 AM
my only issue with buying a beater is that Ive had one, im sure its not like most but my 94 explorer was just a huge pain. The first year I owned it, it didnt cost me a dime, but that last year and a half I put the cost of the car into fixing it and traded it in for half of what I paid. It only had 86k miles on it too. So in my mind Im not sure if its completely worth it, yet I do realize that it isnt always the case.
This is exactly what I wanted when i posted this so thanks, now I have a much better idea of what I have to look at before making my decision
Post by: Rylinkus on June 26, 2006, 03:46:00 PM
QUOTE(lostboyz @ Jun 26 2006, 05:03 PM)
yea I see your point and theres obviously more I need to look into
my only issue with buying a beater is that Ive had one, im sure its not like most but my 94 explorer was just a huge pain. The first year I owned it, it didnt cost me a dime, but that last year and a half I put the cost of the car into fixing it and traded it in for half of what I paid. It only had 86k miles on it too. So in my mind Im not sure if its completely worth it, yet I do realize that it isnt always the case.
This is exactly what I wanted when i posted this so thanks, now I have a much better idea of what I have to look at before making my decision
Well bare in mind bikes require maintenance too. Chains, brakes, and tires all need to be replaced often. And none of this is overly cheap. Add to that tuneups, oil changes, etc and a bike can be costly to keep on the road too. I'm sure you may know someone or have heard of someone that hasn't put a cent into their bike in 3 years. But thats the same guy riding a bike with leaking fork seals, warped rotors, and worn tires. All of which can help contribute to an accident.
With a 3K budget anything you buy is going to have mileage on it. You're either gonna end up with a car with 100k+ on it, a mid 90s bike with 13k, or a newer smaller engined bike with 5K. None of these are exactly low mileage scenarios. And none will be guarenteed reliable. The best you can do is make SURE to have a reliable mechanic look over anything before you buy it. Yeah, maybe youll pay 50-80 bucks for an hour worth of labor. But better then dropping 3k on something that had an obvious problem that you missed.
Post by: Rylinkus on June 27, 2006, 02:15:00 PM
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Post by: sidewinder33 on June 28, 2006, 04:57:00 PM
Maybe find one a few years old. The new ones are a bit pricey, but I have yet to hear any huge negatives for the R1 (minding the price) Good hunting.
Post by: yaazz on July 05, 2006, 11:57:00 AM
Post by: Rylinkus on July 05, 2006, 03:27:00 PM
Post by: i800phyco on July 05, 2006, 05:24:00 PM
I paid $400 for a 78 kz-400 with 5k miles on it and it work's great I ride it to work
every day and it goes highway speed's with eaze.
If you want more power I got my kz-1000 for $1200 and it's insanly fast.
Plus not to stab at rocket's but I find that lying on a gas tank just is not fun for more than
1 hour at a crack.
If your set on a rocket I'd go ninja I had a 600 and it was fun.
Post by: Perplexer on July 05, 2006, 10:13:00 PM
I have a Bandit 1200S and I love it - I commute 60 miles each way to work every day.
If you're near central North Carolina, I have a 1981 Yamaha Seca XJ550 for sale... another "standard" which is fun to ride.
Here's a GREAT guide for anybody looking for a first bike:
Used Motorcycle Evaluation Guide
And a good source for new protective gear at great prices:
NewEnough
Post by: thewickedjester on July 06, 2006, 05:09:00 PM
QUOTE(Rylinkus @ Jul 5 2006, 05:34 PM)
I agree. 900 CCs is a lot of bike. I think it'd be to a point where it's dangerous for a novice rider.
I rode my uncles Ninja ZX-11 (to get a feel for wether I wanted a Harley type bike or a Crotch Rocket) and it was SCARY if I got on the throttle, that thing had a WICKED power band. I'd want no bigger than a 600, though a late model GSX-R is looking nice... And those mostly come in the 900 range...
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Look into the Suzuki Bandit 600 - it's not a crotch rocket but it's not a "standard" bike either. Kind of a cross between the two, a sportbike with a more upright riding position.
A guy at the last job I worked at had a Bandit, it was pretty damn sporty but not wicked fast either. He was a great rider also, I've seen his little 600 smoke Busa's and GSX-R's all day long.
Post by: Rylinkus on July 06, 2006, 05:39:00 PM
QUOTE(thewickedjester @ Jul 7 2006, 12:16 AM)
I rode my uncles Ninja ZX-11 (to get a feel for wether I wanted a Harley type bike or a Crotch Rocket) and it was SCARY if I got on the throttle, that thing had a WICKED power band. I'd want no bigger than a 600, though a late model GSX-R is looking nice... And those mostly come in the 900 range...
A guy at the last job I worked at had a Bandit, it was pretty damn sporty but not wicked fast either. He was a great rider also, I've seen his little 600 smoke Busa's and GSX-R's all day long.
My buddy just picked up a 05 GSXR 750. And he sold his 01 600 for 3900. Not too shabby.
Post by: thewickedjester on July 06, 2006, 09:30:00 PM
QUOTE(Rylinkus @ Jul 6 2006, 07:46 PM)
My buddy just picked up a 05 GSXR 750. And he sold his 01 600 for 3900. Not too shabby.
Hmm, I'll have to keep an eye out.. most of the ones I've seen around Colorado in the dealerships and online have all been in like the 900 area...
Post by: GSX on July 08, 2006, 12:54:00 AM
) Not sure where ur located, but im in NY. I want around $3,200. Bike has 12k on it.
Rest of the pictures HERE
Mods:
K&N Air filter
K&N Oil FIlter
Royal Purple Synthetic race oil ($10 a qt)
Yoshimura factory jet kit
Yoshimura RS-3 carbon fiber exhaust
Micron full headers
Custom made high mount pipe(with micron mount kit) All done professional
Vortex front & rear sprocket kit
RK XSO Gold chain
Front braided SS brake lines
Sinistered pads
HID kit 6k
190 rear tire
Solo rear cover
Undertail kit
Custom plate mount
And a bunch of other crap I missed...
This bike smokes new 600's without a problem( had it at over 160+ and there is still most of 6th left)
Post by: GSX on July 08, 2006, 01:19:00 AM
Sorry for the double post, but this needed to be said. I seen too many ppl get hurt and/or die riding.
I might sound like an uncle tom, but I push my bike when road conditions allow it. Better yet keep it off the streets, and go to track day. Get your speed fix there, and leave the road for cruising.
PS. Almost forgot, I also have a worked 03 R6 for sale. $5700 for that one.(power commander, gpr, hid, many others)