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Title: Awsome Article In Mph Mag
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on January 11, 2006, 04:48:00 PM
Sorry in the store i notice MPH magazine has a headline Porsche for under 5k. I think yeah right, but i still want to see what they are talking about. So i open it up and the talk about the 928 and how the first few years 78-80 are around 5k. Now at the time i didnt notice what the car actually was but when i saw the pics i realized ITS FROM THE MOVIE SCARFACE!!!!!!!! Just like the one he drove. Now Scarface is my favortie movie of all time i watch it atleast 5 time a week, infact as i type this im about to go watch it. So i definently need to buy one of these so ive been looking at/for them. Does anyone know anything about them i should know? I imagine it will be a pain to reapair (parts $$$) but everyone i have looked at is still in great condition, which is odd for MD. No rust on any and the interiors are generaly new looking.

Anyway here is one:

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Title: Awsome Article In Mph Mag
Post by: lordvader129 on January 11, 2006, 04:55:00 PM
dont go around advertising they are scarface cars, lol, the price will shoot up, lol

this one loosk like it needs some body work
http://cgi.ebay.com/...sspagenameZWDVW
Title: Awsome Article In Mph Mag
Post by: Granulated on January 11, 2006, 07:11:00 PM
I've been watching low-cost Porsches for a while now....me wanty.

Anyways, I've been intrigued by those headlights for a while, here's a page I found with a bunch of pictures of different 928's...some are incredible.  (It's in french, too sad.gif

http://membres.lycos...graphie928.html
Title: Awsome Article In Mph Mag
Post by: krustytheclown on January 12, 2006, 10:59:00 AM
Those are automatic aren't they? (I can't really tell, pictures are small)

Thats sad. At the shop I'm at right now, there is a 06 Vette that we are putting this hidious looking stripe on, and its an automatic too. A automatic sports car is like having sex with your clothes on. POINTLESS!!
Title: Awsome Article In Mph Mag
Post by: lordvader129 on January 12, 2006, 11:14:00 AM
i dont like manual, too much work, but i wouldnt buy something that manual (vettes are only available in manual, no?) then convert it to automatic, thats dumb, like people driving about in automatic cobras
Title: Awsome Article In Mph Mag
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on January 12, 2006, 11:37:00 AM
QUOTE(krustytheclown @ Jan 12 2006, 07:06 PM) View Post

Those are automatic aren't they? (I can't really tell, pictures are small)

Thats sad. At the shop I'm at right now, there is a 06 Vette that we are putting this hidious looking stripe on, and its an automatic too. A automatic sports car is like having sex with your clothes on. POINTLESS!!

Yeah i prefer manual aswell. Most of the 928s are manual anyway so its not like its hard to find one thas not auto.
Title: Awsome Article In Mph Mag
Post by: krustytheclown on January 12, 2006, 11:49:00 AM
Too much work? Thats kinda lazy. It dosen't take much more energy/time to use your left foot to push in and release a clutch pedal.

A regular vette is available with a auto or a stick. A Z-06 Corvette has ONLY a 6-speed manual transmission.  

I saw a ad in a motor trend magazine a while ago for a company that converts a Dodge Viper to automatic. Thats sad. If its a sports car over 6 cylinders, it should at least have a Manual transmission option.

The Chrylser 300C or SRT-8, Dodge Magnum, and Dodge Charger, all are fast cars. However, they are ONLY automatic. Don't give me the "its a tiptronic transmission, its just as good as a manual" line. There not. Stinking Chrysler calling a auto-stick. Losers. Give me a clutch for christ sake.
Title: Awsome Article In Mph Mag
Post by: Granulated on January 12, 2006, 11:57:00 AM
I refuse to drive automatic!  It's hardly driving at all.

Until you've learned to drive manual, you can't say it's too much work, cause it's really quite fun, and I picked up on it within a week or two.  

Plus, better gas mileage, better performance, and none of your siblings can drive your car, but I can steal all of theirs biggrin.gif
Title: Awsome Article In Mph Mag
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on January 12, 2006, 12:23:00 PM
Honestly the whole auto thing depends on your needs and where you live. If you lived in a heavy traffic part of the city and wnet through rush ahour traffic, i know i wouldnt want a Manual. I get pissed when driving a Manual and i hit standstill traffic. Go, stop, go shift, down shift, stop. Annoying as hell....
Title: Awsome Article In Mph Mag
Post by: lordvader129 on January 12, 2006, 12:48:00 PM
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Plus, better gas mileage, better performance, and none of your siblings can drive your car, but I can steal all of theirs

my brother would still steal it and fuck up the trans, lol

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Go, stop, go shift, down shift, stop. Annoying as hell....

yeah, more often than not thats my morning commute



i dont know, i like to just sit back and relax while i drive and not worry about shifting (yes, ive driven manual) although if i was given the option to have one of those cars that you can switch from manul to automatic with the push of a button it woul dbe cool, lol

i recently saw an article in a magazine about an 800hp daily driver mustang, it was an automatic, i think thats badass, lol
Title: Awsome Article In Mph Mag
Post by: blame canada on January 12, 2006, 12:59:00 PM
an 800hp mustung w/ an automatic? That kind of car with that much horsepower desvers a manual. Good idea though about switching between automatic/maual, but thats gonna be one big-ass tranny lol
Title: Awsome Article In Mph Mag
Post by: lordvader129 on January 12, 2006, 03:20:00 PM
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an 800hp mustung w/ an automatic? That kind of car with that much horsepower desvers a manual.

 tongue.gif it deserves whatever the owner wants it to have, lol

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Good idea though about switching between automatic/maual, but thats gonna be one big-ass tranny lol

a friend of mine had a little mercury capri with a switchable transmission, he was alwyas bragging about it, then he blew it out all over the road in front of a group of people, funniest damn thing ive ever seen in my life
Title: Awsome Article In Mph Mag
Post by: Rylinkus on January 12, 2006, 05:40:00 PM
Automatic transmissions actually have advantages in drag racing.
Title: Awsome Article In Mph Mag
Post by: jesterrace777 on January 13, 2006, 02:27:00 AM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Jan 12 2006, 07:21 PM) View Post

i dont like manual, too much work, but i wouldnt buy something that manual (vettes are only available in manual, no?) then convert it to automatic, thats dumb, like people driving about in automatic cobras


WTF?  An automatic transmission in a sports car is like chopping the balls off of a guy.  A sports car just isn't complete without a manual tranny.
Title: Awsome Article In Mph Mag
Post by: anticrap1234 on January 13, 2006, 02:25:00 PM
manual= a pain in the ass in bad traffic. A stall converter and a built automatic tranny will beat a manual any day.
Title: Awsome Article In Mph Mag
Post by: Granulated on January 13, 2006, 03:30:00 PM
QUOTE(anticrap1234 @ Jan 13 2006, 03:32 PM) View Post

manual= a pain in the ass in bad traffic. A stall converter and a built automatic tranny will beat a manual any day.



Spoken like a true noodlearmed choir boy.

I don't drive in heavy traffic every single day, but I do quite frequently, as I spend alot of time in Madison and Milwaukee, WI.  I drove through Milwaukee yesterday during rush hour, so the freeway was a parking lot, and I thought about this thread and how silly it was.   Seriously, just leave it in second gear...you can go from 5 mph up to 35 before you have to worry about shifting if it's heavy traffic...little bit of clutch work, and it's fine.
Title: Awsome Article In Mph Mag
Post by: Rylinkus on January 13, 2006, 07:33:00 PM
In general, automatic transmissions are known as being more useful for lazy commuters than for hardcore racers. But it may be surprising for some to know that many pro drag-racing cars have heavy-duty auto gearboxes. That's because the brake-torque launch is an automatic specialty. This launch involves keeping the car stationary by flooring the brakes with the left foot, while using the right foot to rev up the engine against the torque converter. In technical terms, this preloads the entire drivetrain with the stress of a launch, allowing the engine to rev closer to its power and torque peaks at the starting line. Brake-torquing is also beneficial for turbocharged engines as it allows boost to build up before the launch, reducing turbo lag. The only problem is that there is a lot of stress on the transmission, and the consequent heat build-up can destroy your automatic gearbox. Unless your car has too much power for the tires to handle, a brake-torque launch usually will not spin the wheels. This is because the automatic transmission absorbs the shock by design, and brake-torquing actually reduces stress on the rest of the drivetrain. Instead of a sudden massive load, the drivetrain has the torque applied slower instead of one huge jolt.

Taken from
http://www.modernrac...techniques.html
Title: Awsome Article In Mph Mag
Post by: lordvader129 on January 14, 2006, 02:53:00 PM
QUOTE(jesterrace777 @ Jan 13 2006, 03:34 AM) View Post

WTF?  An automatic transmission in a sports car is like chopping the balls off of a guy.  A sports car just isn't complete without a manual tranny.

ah screw you all  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
Title: Awsome Article In Mph Mag
Post by: yaazz on February 06, 2006, 10:59:00 AM
QUOTE(Rylinkus @ Jan 14 2006, 03:40 AM) View Post

In general, automatic transmissions are known as being more useful for lazy commuters than for hardcore racers. But it may be surprising for some to know that many pro drag-racing cars have heavy-duty auto gearboxes. That's because the brake-torque launch is an automatic specialty. This launch involves keeping the car stationary by flooring the brakes with the left foot, while using the right foot to rev up the engine against the torque converter. In technical terms, this preloads the entire drivetrain with the stress of a launch, allowing the engine to rev closer to its power and torque peaks at the starting line. Brake-torquing is also beneficial for turbocharged engines as it allows boost to build up before the launch, reducing turbo lag. The only problem is that there is a lot of stress on the transmission, and the consequent heat build-up can destroy your automatic gearbox. Unless your car has too much power for the tires to handle, a brake-torque launch usually will not spin the wheels. This is because the automatic transmission absorbs the shock by design, and brake-torquing actually reduces stress on the rest of the drivetrain. Instead of a sudden massive load, the drivetrain has the torque applied slower instead of one huge jolt.

Taken from
http://www.modernrac...techniques.html


I used to do that in my truck all the time, didnt realize it was an actual technique, I just thought it was fun