Post by: KDragon on August 29, 2005, 08:18:00 PM
Post by: Alex548 on August 29, 2005, 08:21:00 PM
I can't fit in them comfortably anymore (damn, I need to lose weight).
Pretty fast and look nice too.
Definitely a better vehicle than your Eagle Summit.
Post by: KDragon on August 29, 2005, 08:32:00 PM
Post by: Psykomantis00 on August 30, 2005, 08:03:00 AM
. But if you want a fun cheap car, you could get a j-body (sunfire or cavalier). I got mine for 1700 and the body is in great condition and its not a bad lookin car, and its quick Ive beat several swapped and even a boosted civic.
Or you could get a del sol, their cheap, look awesome, and its a honda so you know its reliable.
Post by: KDragon on August 30, 2005, 08:15:00 AM
Post by: Psykomantis00 on August 30, 2005, 08:38:00 AM
QUOTE(KDragon @ Aug 30 2005, 04:26 PM)
well i have the summit wagon and it is fun but i want something not every one has like a sun fire
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: jesterrace777 on August 30, 2005, 07:22:00 PM
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Post by: jesterrace777 on August 30, 2005, 07:22:00 PM
QUOTE(KDragon @ Aug 30 2005, 04:29 AM)
yeah i have a old (94) Eagle Summit that has more room than i need and little balls so i was thinking about getting a 90 Mazda Miata. What do you all think of them?
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Post by: Psykomantis00 on August 30, 2005, 07:38:00 PM
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Post by: Psykomantis00 on August 30, 2005, 07:38:00 PM
QUOTE(jesterrace777 @ Aug 31 2005, 03:33 AM)
No shortage of cool mods for it that is for sure. For about a total of $12K (car included) you can turn it into a supercharged 200-250HP beast. Not bad for a car that weighs less than 2500 lbs.
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Post by: ubernewb on August 30, 2005, 10:05:00 PM
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Post by: ubernewb on August 30, 2005, 10:05:00 PM
QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Aug 30 2005, 04:14 PM)
But if you want a fun cheap car, you could get a j-body (sunfire or cavalier). I got mine for 1700 and the body is in great condition and its not a bad lookin car, and its quick Ive beat several swapped and even a boosted civic.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: jesterrace777 on August 31, 2005, 02:58:00 AM
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Post by: jesterrace777 on August 31, 2005, 02:58:00 AM
QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Aug 31 2005, 03:49 AM)
Only 12k huh. 
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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on August 31, 2005, 07:27:00 AM
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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on August 31, 2005, 07:27:00 AM
QUOTE(ubernewb @ Aug 31 2005, 06:16 AM)
you beat a turbo'd civic with stock cavalier? you sir are full of shit.. the only way that would happen is if:
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Post by: Psykomantis00 on August 31, 2005, 09:27:00 AM
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Post by: Psykomantis00 on August 31, 2005, 09:27:00 AM
QUOTE(ubernewb @ Aug 31 2005, 06:16 AM)
you beat a turbo'd civic with stock cavalier? you sir are full of shit.. the only way that would happen is if:
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: KDragon on August 31, 2005, 10:17:00 AM
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yeah i want to supercharge the miata but i don't have the money for that now.
Sorry no its not AWD i wish it was! But how much do you think it would go for it has ~120000 miles a fair amount of rust and a few dings and dents but runs GREAT
except the flex-pipe is half there the ac need a recharge and... i know theres something else but i don't remember. o and did i say its got a 93 2.4 engine.
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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on August 31, 2005, 11:33:00 AM
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Post by: KDragon on August 31, 2005, 10:17:00 AM
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Is your wagon awd? Wanna sell it?
Sorry no its not AWD i wish it was! But how much do you think it would go for it has ~120000 miles a fair amount of rust and a few dings and dents but runs GREAT
except the flex-pipe is half there the ac need a recharge and... i know theres something else but i don't remember. o and did i say its got a 93 2.4 engine.
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on August 31, 2005, 11:33:00 AM
QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Aug 31 2005, 05:38 PM)
I said j-body, I never said cavy. There is no replacement for displacement my friend. 2.4l 5 speed vs 1.5l auto with a shit turbo setup, easily done. The swapped civic was my friends and I pulled on him like it was nothing. Teh turbo civic had me till 3rd gear then tailights is all he saw. Both were from a stop. If we would have went from a roll he would have beaten me. Either way, both of my friends like my completely stock car, and I envy them because I get 29 mpg compared to their 35 and up.
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Post by: KDragon on August 31, 2005, 12:22:00 PM
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ok kiddies no flaming in my Thread and if you don't like ricers ignore them!
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Psykomantis00 on August 31, 2005, 07:10:00 PM
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Post by: KDragon on August 31, 2005, 12:22:00 PM
Post by: Psykomantis00 on August 31, 2005, 07:10:00 PM
QUOTE(Hercules Q Einstein @ Aug 31 2005, 07:44 PM)
Im still not buyin it. The Civic already has more or atleast equal HP stock (Depending on the trims). It they swapped an engine you have to figure it had more power than their orignal engine (probably from a Integra). Point is they had more power (id guess atleast 20hp).
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: KDragon on August 31, 2005, 09:21:00 PM
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Now what do you all think of NGK extended reach spark plugs?
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 01, 2005, 12:15:00 PM
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Post by: KDragon on August 31, 2005, 09:21:00 PM
Now what do you all think of NGK extended reach spark plugs?
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 01, 2005, 12:15:00 PM
QUOTE(KDragon @ Sep 1 2005, 05:32 AM)
don't want to see BS clams don't read the threads OK?
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: ubernewb on September 01, 2005, 12:41:00 PM
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Post by: ubernewb on September 01, 2005, 12:41:00 PM
QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 1 2005, 03:21 AM)
What you believe doesnt concern me. The engine the civic has is d16z6 with OBD1 conversion, stock eclipse injectors, stock eclipse turbo, stock eclipse intercoolr. A junkyard setup. Pushin about 5-6 psi when we ran, and did I mention its non v-tec? Of coarse you will come back saying something that you know nothing of, and then I will come back and say something, and this will turn into a flame war. It wasnt really a race, it was form redlight to redlight and I topped at 55 before i started to brake. Barely enough to wind out 3rd gear.
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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 01, 2005, 02:30:00 PM
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Actually its a Sunfire he drive, same thing really though.
But its not a Cavy.
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Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 01, 2005, 02:50:00 PM
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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 01, 2005, 02:30:00 PM
But its not a Cavy.
Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 01, 2005, 02:50:00 PM
QUOTE(Hercules Q Einstein @ Sep 1 2005, 10:41 PM)
Actually its a Sunfire he drive, same thing really though.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Alex548 on September 01, 2005, 03:07:00 PM
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10K in a car? Hmmm.... I'd love to stick 10K in upgrades to my 1st Gen Talon. It already has the 4G63 engine in it. Unfortunately, it's being used as my family car because some idiot rear-ended my BMW (and my 240SX is dead).
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: KDragon on September 01, 2005, 03:27:00 PM
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Ouch!
On what kind of track?
Drag? Somthing with LOTS of tight turns?
I think a Miata would "walk" any honda!
EDIT: and use less gas.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: ubernewb on September 01, 2005, 04:50:00 PM
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Post by: Alex548 on September 01, 2005, 03:07:00 PM
Post by: KDragon on September 01, 2005, 03:27:00 PM
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some idiot rear-ended my BMW (and my 240SX is dead)
Ouch!
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you spend 10k on a car, and Ill spend 10k on a car, and we will race, no performance mods matter you can do whatever you want, but the car has to be stock when you buy it, it can be anything you want. I would pick a honda and beat anything you threw at it, no matter how many cylinders.
On what kind of track?
Drag? Somthing with LOTS of tight turns?
I think a Miata would "walk" any honda!
EDIT: and use less gas.
Post by: ubernewb on September 01, 2005, 04:50:00 PM
QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 1 2005, 11:01 PM)
Exactly. Sunfire's suck, but cavy's suck harder.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: ubernewb on September 01, 2005, 04:56:00 PM
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Post by: ubernewb on September 01, 2005, 04:56:00 PM
QUOTE(KDragon @ Sep 1 2005, 11:38 PM)
I think a Miata would "walk" any honda!
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 01, 2005, 05:14:00 PM
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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 01, 2005, 05:14:00 PM
QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 1 2005, 11:01 PM)
Exactly. Sunfire's suck, but cavy's suck harder.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Alex548 on September 01, 2005, 05:21:00 PM
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Anyone need a project car? I've spent $3,700 on it, but now it's just sitting in my driveway looking ugly.
**Alex**
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: ubernewb on September 01, 2005, 05:35:00 PM
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Post by: Alex548 on September 01, 2005, 05:21:00 PM
Anyone need a project car? I've spent $3,700 on it, but now it's just sitting in my driveway looking ugly.
**Alex**
Post by: ubernewb on September 01, 2005, 05:35:00 PM
QUOTE(Hercules Q Einstein @ Sep 2 2005, 01:25 AM)
Any stock car for 10k? And you think a honda would win?
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 01, 2005, 06:03:00 PM
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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 01, 2005, 06:03:00 PM
QUOTE(ubernewb @ Sep 2 2005, 01:46 AM)
no.. said you just had to buy it stock.. like you'd 10k total to buy the car and then mod it. but i see how you could have misread it.. i had to go over it a couple times myself
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: ubernewb on September 01, 2005, 06:43:00 PM
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10k limit came from psycho.. and i agree on that one. there are so many options out there that it's not even worth comparing,
as for finding a s2000 or nsx under 10k, don't have too... simply replying to kdragon's comment about a miata walking any honda
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 01, 2005, 11:45:00 PM
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Post by: ubernewb on September 01, 2005, 06:43:00 PM
as for finding a s2000 or nsx under 10k, don't have too... simply replying to kdragon's comment about a miata walking any honda
Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 01, 2005, 11:45:00 PM
QUOTE(Hercules Q Einstein @ Sep 2 2005, 02:14 AM)
Yeah as for the S2000 and the NSX, you go ahead an tell me when you see one of those for under 10K.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: KDragon on September 01, 2005, 11:51:00 PM
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Post by: ubernewb on September 02, 2005, 01:50:00 AM
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how in the fuck does that make any sense? so your car will beat any other becasue of your magical powers? that is seriously the most retarded thing i have heard in this thread so far..
actually they're pretty damn slow.. when they boost the h22 that in them, they run 4's .. but that's in the 1/8 mile you twit.. not the quarter.
first off, who in the hell brought up muscle cars? we've been talking imports pretty much this whole debate.. except for you and your shit sunfire that is..
and what was proven by professionals? the fact that a fully modded 240 can beat a stock domestic? no shit ... wow .. that's news
you do know of things like lower compression pistons, thicker headgaskets, and such don't you? for a guy that claimed to know so much that is...
and this would be my favorite line of all... how in the fuck would boosting an h22 make them retarded? are you that fucking dumb? hey.. got news for you there stud.. that honda attack you brought up earlier was only quick when it was boosted.
that's right.. a boosted h22 ..
from now on, just do us all a favor and stay out of the "big kid" talks .. we'll drop you a little note when someone wants to talk about putting a wing on some domestic turd.
have a nice day
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: ubernewb on September 02, 2005, 01:54:00 AM
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Post by: KDragon on September 01, 2005, 11:51:00 PM
Post by: ubernewb on September 02, 2005, 01:50:00 AM
QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 2 2005, 07:56 AM)
You pick any car you want to, and Ill pick any car I want to, and I will walk all over you in any race situation, Ill even pick a honda.
how in the fuck does that make any sense? so your car will beat any other becasue of your magical powers? that is seriously the most retarded thing i have heard in this thread so far..
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FYI the Honda Attack runs low 4's, and handles like a dream, plus gets upwards of 60mpg.
actually they're pretty damn slow.. when they boost the h22 that in them, they run 4's .. but that's in the 1/8 mile you twit.. not the quarter.
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If I was building a race car to beat any car you threw at it, I would buy either a VR4 or a 240zx with rb20dett swap. You and your muscle cars cant touch either of those, and its been proven by proffesionals. and I know of many civic's that would roast any car you threw at it. Ever heard of cheesefrog?
first off, who in the hell brought up muscle cars? we've been talking imports pretty much this whole debate.. except for you and your shit sunfire that is..
and what was proven by professionals? the fact that a fully modded 240 can beat a stock domestic? no shit ... wow .. that's news
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As for the guy that said he would use is 1g dsm... its fwd turbo (I assume because you said 4g63 and not 4g63t) and if you did turbo it, you would blow it within a week. Compression on the non turbo 4g63 engine is alot higher.
you do know of things like lower compression pistons, thicker headgaskets, and such don't you? for a guy that claimed to know so much that is...
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Also if you boosted an h22 your retarded.
and this would be my favorite line of all... how in the fuck would boosting an h22 make them retarded? are you that fucking dumb? hey.. got news for you there stud.. that honda attack you brought up earlier was only quick when it was boosted.
that's right.. a boosted h22 .. from now on, just do us all a favor and stay out of the "big kid" talks .. we'll drop you a little note when someone wants to talk about putting a wing on some domestic turd.
have a nice day
Post by: ubernewb on September 02, 2005, 01:54:00 AM
QUOTE(KDragon @ Sep 2 2005, 08:02 AM)
i was just kidding but ok lets say any bone stock car for under $2500? in the twisties hows the miata sound now?
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 02, 2005, 06:51:00 AM
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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 02, 2005, 06:51:00 AM
QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 2 2005, 07:56 AM)
http://used-cars.aut...mNzej00NTYxOQ--
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: jesterrace777 on September 02, 2005, 01:38:00 PM
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Post by: jesterrace777 on September 02, 2005, 01:38:00 PM
QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 2 2005, 07:56 AM)
http://used-cars.aut...mNzej00NTYxOQ--
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Rylinkus on September 04, 2005, 10:21:00 AM
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Ok, I've got 4K in my car right now. Thats car, seat, and some brake pads. Nothing special. But it was modded when I bought it. Who buys a stock car to mod if theres a modded car out there just as cheap? If this "contest" requires one to buy a stock car thats totally stupid.
And don't list the friggin VR4 as a super car. It's HEAVY..... My god, what is it with little ricer boys and their stupid beliefs that any import is better than any domestic. It's just plain stupid. God damn it, I'm sick of all this over rated import bullshit. Skylines are WAY OVERRATED. VR4s are Overrated. Civics are Overrated. And 240SXs are Overrated. You know, if you guys picked decent imports to argue with it would make your arguments that much more compelling. And certainly if you didn't act like Honda owns the world in racing. Christ who races in a wrong wheel drive car??
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Post by: KDragon on September 04, 2005, 11:59:00 AM
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Post by: Rylinkus on September 04, 2005, 01:19:00 PM
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Post by: ubernewb on September 04, 2005, 09:00:00 PM
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Post by: Rylinkus on September 04, 2005, 10:21:00 AM
And don't list the friggin VR4 as a super car. It's HEAVY..... My god, what is it with little ricer boys and their stupid beliefs that any import is better than any domestic. It's just plain stupid. God damn it, I'm sick of all this over rated import bullshit. Skylines are WAY OVERRATED. VR4s are Overrated. Civics are Overrated. And 240SXs are Overrated. You know, if you guys picked decent imports to argue with it would make your arguments that much more compelling. And certainly if you didn't act like Honda owns the world in racing. Christ who races in a wrong wheel drive car??
Post by: KDragon on September 04, 2005, 11:59:00 AM
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wrong wheel drive car
Post by: Rylinkus on September 04, 2005, 01:19:00 PM
QUOTE(KDragon @ Sep 4 2005, 08:10 PM)
Post by: ubernewb on September 04, 2005, 09:00:00 PM
QUOTE(Rylinkus @ Sep 4 2005, 09:30 PM)
Front Wheel Drive. Which in racing applications is just as good as saying wrong wheel drive, as no legitimate racers use FWD rides.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Rylinkus on September 04, 2005, 10:05:00 PM
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Post by: Rylinkus on September 04, 2005, 10:05:00 PM
QUOTE(ubernewb @ Sep 5 2005, 05:11 AM)
i like how you come in all and mighty then you yourself make a stupid blanket statement.. there are a hell of a lot of fwd cars in the auto-x circuits. but what, does auto-x not count cuz they don't go straight?
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: ubernewb on September 04, 2005, 10:18:00 PM
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 04, 2005, 10:22:00 PM
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Post by: ubernewb on September 04, 2005, 10:18:00 PM
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... drunk and slightly arroused..
Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 04, 2005, 10:22:00 PM
QUOTE(Rylinkus @ Sep 4 2005, 06:32 PM)
Ok, I've got 4K in my car right now. Thats car, seat, and some brake pads. Nothing special. But it was modded when I bought it. Who buys a stock car to mod if theres a modded car out there just as cheap? If this "contest" requires one to buy a stock car thats totally stupid.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 04, 2005, 10:25:00 PM
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Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 04, 2005, 10:25:00 PM
QUOTE(ubernewb @ Sep 5 2005, 06:29 AM)
240 an auto-x car? uhm.. no.. not so many of those in auto-x. drifting maybe..
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Rylinkus on September 04, 2005, 10:33:00 PM
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Post by: Rylinkus on September 04, 2005, 10:39:00 PM
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: ubernewb on September 05, 2005, 12:26:00 AM
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yeah.. but it's still racing is it not? and the fact that it's a driver's race should say a lot for fwd cars.. if they pick them to go fast in the twisties they must be doing so for a reason..
also, auto-x often turns into a "contact sport" .. with rwd cars, a slight bump entering a corner can cause a spin-out. fwd cars handle contact a little better.
actually ry, to be honest with you a skyline (i'm talking gt-r32 here) would beat your camaro. awd turbo with an incredible traction control system.. i mean wow. it's a mean car no matter how much you wanna belittle them. the car was built for a track.. (literally)
the vr4? it might beat you, but you can be sure that something will break soon if it did
and as to your other comment about auto-x being somehow a 'lesser' form of racing.. it might not be as big as drag or oval track, but it's a helluva lot more fun.
weaving in and out of a pack thru switchbacks and chicanes(sp?) is a lot more exciting that making a left turn every 45 seconds.. haha
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: ubernewb on September 05, 2005, 12:30:00 AM
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Post by: Rylinkus on September 04, 2005, 10:33:00 PM
Post by: Rylinkus on September 04, 2005, 10:39:00 PM
QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 5 2005, 06:33 AM)
Post by: ubernewb on September 05, 2005, 12:26:00 AM
QUOTE(Rylinkus @ Sep 5 2005, 06:44 AM)
And last point worth noting is simply that AutoX is much more driver then car.
yeah.. but it's still racing is it not? and the fact that it's a driver's race should say a lot for fwd cars.. if they pick them to go fast in the twisties they must be doing so for a reason..
also, auto-x often turns into a "contact sport" .. with rwd cars, a slight bump entering a corner can cause a spin-out. fwd cars handle contact a little better.
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And I guess I dont get how a car that's slower then mine like a VR4 or Skyline would walk all over my car, but I guess in your video games they would. So it must be true.....
actually ry, to be honest with you a skyline (i'm talking gt-r32 here) would beat your camaro. awd turbo with an incredible traction control system.. i mean wow. it's a mean car no matter how much you wanna belittle them. the car was built for a track.. (literally)
the vr4? it might beat you, but you can be sure that something will break soon if it did
and as to your other comment about auto-x being somehow a 'lesser' form of racing.. it might not be as big as drag or oval track, but it's a helluva lot more fun.
weaving in and out of a pack thru switchbacks and chicanes(sp?) is a lot more exciting that making a left turn every 45 seconds.. haha
Post by: ubernewb on September 05, 2005, 12:30:00 AM
QUOTE(Rylinkus @ Sep 5 2005, 06:50 AM)
So you boys sleep tight believing that because your civics get better gas mileage or handle better in the snow or have more of a showing @ AutoX are a better performance car and Ill laugh my slightly innebriated ass off.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 05, 2005, 01:04:00 AM
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Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 05, 2005, 01:04:00 AM
QUOTE(ubernewb @ Sep 5 2005, 08:37 AM)
yeah.. but it's still racing is it not? and the fact that it's a driver's race should say a lot for fwd cars.. if they pick them to go fast in the twisties they must be doing so for a reason..
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 05, 2005, 01:07:00 AM
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Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 05, 2005, 01:07:00 AM
QUOTE(Rylinkus @ Sep 5 2005, 06:44 AM)
And last point worth noting is simply that AutoX is much more driver then car.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 05, 2005, 05:25:00 AM
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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 05, 2005, 05:25:00 AM
QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 5 2005, 06:33 AM)
Actually skyline's, VR4's, Supra's, 240's S2k's, Prelude's, all considered super cars if done right. Ohh how could I forget the RX7. Your camaro cost 4k? Congrats, its still an ugly domestic that uses way too much gas and gives very low power numbers. Your car is faster than mine, big deal, my car is also better on gas, and insurance. Im glad you think skyline's and Vr4's are overated, even tho they have 2 cylinders less than your car, and they are completely stock and would just walk right the hell over your shitty domestic gas guzeling "amazing" machine. Not to mention camaro's are one of the most seen cars and most of which are the crap tastic V6 auto models.
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Post by: Rylinkus on September 05, 2005, 12:52:00 PM
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Ill post more hearsay and conjecture later, but since when is AutoX a contact sport?????
And VR4s are heavy as hell and have amazing drivetrain losses. Not to mention the reliability issues. Come on, it's a piece of shit that's not worth the money. And for everyone who wants to compare my Camaro to a GTR.... wow, really shows my cars value at 4K when you cant get a road legal skyline in the US for anywhere near that.
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Post by: jesterrace777 on September 05, 2005, 01:08:00 PM
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Post by: Rylinkus on September 05, 2005, 12:52:00 PM
And VR4s are heavy as hell and have amazing drivetrain losses. Not to mention the reliability issues. Come on, it's a piece of shit that's not worth the money. And for everyone who wants to compare my Camaro to a GTR.... wow, really shows my cars value at 4K when you cant get a road legal skyline in the US for anywhere near that.
Post by: jesterrace777 on September 05, 2005, 01:08:00 PM
QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 5 2005, 06:33 AM)
Actually skyline's, VR4's, Supra's, 240's S2k's, Prelude's, all considered super cars if done right. Ohh how could I forget the RX7. Your camaro cost 4k? Congrats, its still an ugly domestic that uses way too much gas and gives very low power numbers. Your car is faster than mine, big deal, my car is also better on gas, and insurance. Im glad you think skyline's and Vr4's are overated, even tho they have 2 cylinders less than your car, and they are completely stock and would just walk right the hell over your shitty domestic gas guzeling "amazing" machine. Not to mention camaro's are one of the most seen cars and most of which are the crap tastic V6 auto models.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 05, 2005, 04:45:00 PM
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Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 05, 2005, 04:45:00 PM
QUOTE(xBRYAN @ Sep 6 2005, 12:35 AM)
phycho.. why are you trying to defend honda drivers? you make us look like shit... a d16z6 IS A VTEC engine.. a d16Y6 is a NONVTEC....
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: ubernewb on September 05, 2005, 04:50:00 PM
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Post by: ubernewb on September 05, 2005, 04:50:00 PM
QUOTE(Rylinkus @ Sep 5 2005, 09:03 PM)
Ill post more hearsay and conjecture later, but since when is AutoX a contact sport?????
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Rylinkus on September 05, 2005, 07:25:00 PM
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Post by: Rylinkus on September 05, 2005, 07:25:00 PM
QUOTE(ubernewb @ Sep 6 2005, 01:01 AM)
have you ever been to an auto-x race? when you have a thick pack of cars going thru corners they often bump each other.. those rear quarter panel bumps can be disasterous for cars, especially rwd. when braking for the corner, the weight is transfered to the front making the rear end especially easy to spin around.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Rylinkus on September 05, 2005, 07:27:00 PM
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And a quick FYI. I don't particularly think my car is bad looking, but I'd certainly take an 85 Camaro over mine as far as style goes.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Rylinkus on September 05, 2005, 07:33:00 PM
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Post by: Rylinkus on September 05, 2005, 07:27:00 PM
Post by: Rylinkus on September 05, 2005, 07:33:00 PM
QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 5 2005, 09:15 AM)
an awd twin turbo vr4 would easily walk the camaro. a single turbo flat 4 scooby would walk a camaro. A twin turbo supra, would walk a camaro. Tahts why they are called japanise super cars. Because no matter what american muscle car you throw at them, the import can be made faster, more reliable, and look a hell of a lot sexier.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: ubernewb on September 05, 2005, 08:11:00 PM
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Post by: ubernewb on September 05, 2005, 08:11:00 PM
QUOTE(Rylinkus @ Sep 6 2005, 03:44 AM)
So my friends STI is slower then my camaro because........??
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Rylinkus on September 05, 2005, 08:16:00 PM
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I assure you it's a brand new STI. And James is well aware of mods that can and will be done to it. But an STI is only 276 hp from factory. Let's not kid ourselves into acting like it's some 600 hp car that runs a 10 second 1/4 mile and out handles F1 cars.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 05, 2005, 08:43:00 PM
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Post by: Rylinkus on September 05, 2005, 08:16:00 PM
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 05, 2005, 08:43:00 PM
QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 6 2005, 12:56 AM)
As for the japanise super cars, its a I6 motor, all of them are, supra-skyline-vr4, any american supercar is at least 10cyl's or more. No contest.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 06, 2005, 07:31:00 AM
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You know somthing Psykomantis00. I think i found some proof your full of crap. You claim that cars youve owned have had VR4 engines swapped into them, yet you ididnt even know a VR4 had a V6??? Surely you would have noticed it wasnt and I6.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: jesterrace777 on September 06, 2005, 11:18:00 AM
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: jesterrace777 on September 06, 2005, 11:36:00 AM
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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 06, 2005, 07:31:00 AM
Post by: jesterrace777 on September 06, 2005, 11:18:00 AM
Post by: jesterrace777 on September 06, 2005, 11:36:00 AM
QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 6 2005, 12:56 AM)
You can buy 4rth gen preludes for 5k and less. Ok sorry about the gas gusseling statement, I never really looked at the numbers I just always figured it was much worse, my bad.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: KDragon on September 06, 2005, 12:30:00 PM
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Rylinkus on September 06, 2005, 01:44:00 PM
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Post by: KDragon on September 06, 2005, 12:30:00 PM
Post by: Rylinkus on September 06, 2005, 01:44:00 PM
QUOTE(KDragon @ Sep 6 2005, 08:41 PM)
After reading all of the i think i would still go for the Miata considering i can get one for under 2k and its still a fun car to drive as a daily driver.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: jesterrace777 on September 06, 2005, 03:16:00 PM
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: KDragon on September 06, 2005, 08:21:00 PM
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Yeah i would love a hard top but soft tops are lighter! and easer to convert. I'd hate to get stuck in the rain with a hard top thats not on!
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: sk8phreak88 on September 06, 2005, 09:04:00 PM
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 07, 2005, 09:32:00 AM
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Post by: jesterrace777 on September 06, 2005, 03:16:00 PM
Post by: KDragon on September 06, 2005, 08:21:00 PM
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Miatas a good car. I think on most days I'm a bigger Mazda fan than any other brand. And if you can find the hard top it's hella sweet.
Yeah i would love a hard top but soft tops are lighter! and easer to convert. I'd hate to get stuck in the rain with a hard top thats not on!
Post by: sk8phreak88 on September 06, 2005, 09:04:00 PM
Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 07, 2005, 09:32:00 AM
QUOTE(Hercules Q Einstein @ Sep 6 2005, 03:42 PM)
You know somthing Psykomantis00. I think i found some proof your full of crap. You claim that cars youve owned have had VR4 engines swapped into them, yet you ididnt even know a VR4 had a V6??? Surely you would have noticed it wasnt and I6.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 07, 2005, 10:03:00 AM
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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 07, 2005, 10:03:00 AM
QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 7 2005, 05:43 PM)
Corvette's and mustangs arent super cars, they are sports cars. Japanise super cars are the equivelant to American sports cars, comparing an I6 engine to a V10 monster is just stupid.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 07, 2005, 09:57:00 PM
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Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 07, 2005, 09:57:00 PM
QUOTE(Hercules Q Einstein @ Sep 7 2005, 06:14 PM)
Why is it stupid to compare a I6 to a V10? They cost the same, both mid to late 90's Supras, Skylines, and Vipers all cost in the 35-45K price range. Shouldnt you judge a car based on its price not what size engine??? Its not stupid to compare them, just stupid to buy the I6 instead of the V10. You must feel really bad if a Corvette is just a sports car, cause if it is then you japanese 'super cars' cant even beat an american sports car like a z06.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 07, 2005, 09:59:00 PM
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Ohh and also you are completely fucking retarded. If you will read the VERY LAST LINE of the post that YOU QUOTED, you will notice I said V6 and not I6. Verifying that you are fucking illiterate.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: jesterrace777 on September 07, 2005, 11:50:00 PM
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Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 07, 2005, 09:59:00 PM
Post by: jesterrace777 on September 07, 2005, 11:50:00 PM
QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 8 2005, 06:08 AM)
Err try again dumbass.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 08, 2005, 07:33:00 AM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/...1QQcmdZViewItem
One supra
Well there seems to be a shortage on supra's I drool over them alot and usually there is about 3 pages, instead of the now 1 page.
I could afford an older supra, and it would be fast too, but why go for something that isnt the last body style, becuase those are just sexy.
As for the 8k S2k... idk if anything's wrong with it, but the add says it runs fine and has about 50k miles on it and maybe more by now but not by a whole lot.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 08, 2005, 10:00:00 AM
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Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 08, 2005, 07:33:00 AM
One supra
Well there seems to be a shortage on supra's I drool over them alot and usually there is about 3 pages, instead of the now 1 page.
I could afford an older supra, and it would be fast too, but why go for something that isnt the last body style, becuase those are just sexy.
As for the 8k S2k... idk if anything's wrong with it, but the add says it runs fine and has about 50k miles on it and maybe more by now but not by a whole lot.
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 08, 2005, 10:00:00 AM
QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 8 2005, 06:10 AM)
Ohh and also you are completely fucking retarded. If you will read the VERY LAST LINE of the post that YOU QUOTED, you will notice I said V6 and not I6. Verifying that you are fucking illiterate.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: jesterrace777 on September 08, 2005, 12:21:00 PM
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Post by: jesterrace777 on September 08, 2005, 12:21:00 PM
QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 8 2005, 03:44 PM)
http://cgi.ebay.com/...1QQcmdZViewItem
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Rylinkus on September 08, 2005, 03:01:00 PM
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: jesterrace777 on September 09, 2005, 03:41:00 AM
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Yup, especially considering the fact that the cars that he has listed are only supercars if they have gigantic turbos on them pushing rediculous amounts of boost. Hardly anymore efficient than a V8 or V10. The only difference is that outside of the supercar range (most people can't afford supercars anyways), you will get far more performance out of a domestic machine with less money invested. You've got to make up your mind. Imports definitely are the champs for fuel efficiency but those are for the 4-banger econo cars that ARE NOT DESIGNED FOR PERFORMANCE!!!!!!! Sure you can make them perform but by the time you get them to the point where they could outperform a Z-28 you have lost everything that makes them of value. 1. For the cost of making the average 4-banger import outperform the Z-28, you could buy at least two Z-28s. 2. By the time you get the average 4-banger to the point where it could beat out a Z-28, you have completely shot your fuel efficiency advantage to shit. News flash BIG Turbo=SHITTY GAS MILEAGE!!!!!!!!!! Even on a 4-banger. 3. By the time you have got the import into a position where it could beat a Z-28, it is pretty much worthless as a daily driver.
Bottom line: Imports are excellent for gas mileage, drifting and handling, THEY ARE NOT THE MOST ECONOMICAL CHOICE FOR SPORTS CARS!!!!!!!!!
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: ubernewb on September 09, 2005, 01:59:00 PM
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Post by: Rylinkus on September 08, 2005, 03:01:00 PM
QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 8 2005, 06:08 AM)
Post by: jesterrace777 on September 09, 2005, 03:41:00 AM
Bottom line: Imports are excellent for gas mileage, drifting and handling, THEY ARE NOT THE MOST ECONOMICAL CHOICE FOR SPORTS CARS!!!!!!!!!
Post by: ubernewb on September 09, 2005, 01:59:00 PM
QUOTE(jesterrace777 @ Sep 9 2005, 11:52 AM)
News flash BIG Turbo=SHITTY GAS MILEAGE!!!!!!!!!!
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Rylinkus on September 09, 2005, 02:14:00 PM
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But the whole efficiency thing is bullshit. People assume that a a 4 cylinder always gets better gas mileage then a V8. And generally they do. Because generally the V8 has more power. Start getting into I4s that produce hp and the gas mileage drops severely. Why? Because all the power a car has is produced by combustion of fuel and oxygen. It's a requirement. And more oxygen and more fuel equates to more power. You add a turbo to get more power on your car. What things do you need to think about? The ECU, fuel pump, injectors, etc. Because you need to make sure you can supply the added fuel that the engine needs not to run lean and burn up. Well dumpin more fuel into the engine means *gasp* worse gas mileage. As I've said, if an import is more efficient explain how. With science, facts, and numbers; not vague claims. I know how hard this is because I've tried to argue the wonder that is the S2000 a few times on other forums and a senior member ripped me to shreds while showing me the light. That hp per liter while an amusing fact means nothing if your MPG/hp is identical between 2 engines. And so called "Newer efficient" technology isn't truly amazing unless you can use it to make a faster, more powerful car without sacrificing gas mileage.
And I have friends that have Corrados, 240SXs, and DSMs faster then my Z28. The other fact common among all of them is that they ALL get worse gas mileage then me, (especially if they get on the highway), and they all require Super like me.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: ubernewb on September 09, 2005, 03:28:00 PM
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 09, 2005, 06:31:00 PM
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Post by: Rylinkus on September 09, 2005, 02:14:00 PM
And I have friends that have Corrados, 240SXs, and DSMs faster then my Z28. The other fact common among all of them is that they ALL get worse gas mileage then me, (especially if they get on the highway), and they all require Super like me.
Post by: ubernewb on September 09, 2005, 03:28:00 PM
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 09, 2005, 06:31:00 PM
QUOTE(ubernewb @ Sep 9 2005, 11:39 PM)
true.. but that's why i never argued for high-horsepower efficiency.. i know mileage drops when more hp is brought into the picture, that's just the nature of the beast.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 09, 2005, 07:09:00 PM
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Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 09, 2005, 07:09:00 PM
QUOTE(Hercules Q Einstein @ Sep 10 2005, 02:42 AM)
Great attitude about it... i just wish all Civic/Cavalier/CRX/Eclipse/etc owners felt that way. I swear i hate when soneone driving a riced out econobox comes up to me reving his engine. Its stupid.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Rylinkus on September 10, 2005, 08:10:00 AM
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There's always someone who does these things...
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 10, 2005, 09:01:00 AM
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Post by: Rylinkus on September 10, 2005, 08:10:00 AM
There's always someone who does these things...
Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 10, 2005, 09:01:00 AM
QUOTE(Rylinkus @ Sep 10 2005, 04:21 PM)
I know a guy with a 94 TT Stang actually. There's always someone who does these things...
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Rylinkus on September 10, 2005, 10:33:00 AM
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You can certainly use an FMIC on a S/Ced car though. Not that there's anything wrong with a turbo setup either. Buth are cool options.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 10, 2005, 11:11:00 AM
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There's always someone who does these things...Post by: Rylinkus on September 10, 2005, 10:33:00 AM
Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 10, 2005, 11:11:00 AM
QUOTE(Rylinkus @ Sep 10 2005, 06:44 PM)
You can certainly use an FMIC on a S/Ced car though. Not that there's anything wrong with a turbo setup either. Buth are cool options.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Rylinkus on September 10, 2005, 12:39:00 PM
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I cant even name a mustang forum. I cant imagine its that rare a mod.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: jesterrace777 on September 10, 2005, 12:55:00 PM
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Post by: Rylinkus on September 10, 2005, 12:39:00 PM
Post by: jesterrace777 on September 10, 2005, 12:55:00 PM
QUOTE(ubernewb @ Sep 9 2005, 10:10 PM)
just to support that statement, my buddy at work has a massive t60 turbo in his 240 ... it's faster than shit (but still a decent daily driver) but he gets about 15mpg.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 10, 2005, 01:13:00 PM
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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 10, 2005, 01:13:00 PM
QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 10 2005, 05:12 PM)
Yes, but they arent common at all. I know one other guy near me that wants to go TT because he is sick of all these supercharger guys. Anyone that has a mustang would consider a super charger before a turbo setup, well there are a few exceptions... but I just love the sound of a turbo, you cant beat it. Plus it would give me a reason to have a turbo timer which is just funy to watch people look at you like your retarded when you walk away from your car while its running. Ohh and you cant forget the fmic bling a mustang with an fmic is sexy.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: jesterrace777 on September 10, 2005, 01:18:00 PM
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I do know that twin-turbo configurations are tricky. So unless you really know what you are doing you better take it to someone really experienced with them.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 10, 2005, 02:16:00 PM
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Would an older model camaro (the one before the one you have rylinkus) come with an ls1 and 6 speed? Ive seen alot of mustang forums and alot of them blew the engine while racing a camaro... I would much rather have the more reliable, but still want a tt setup.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 10, 2005, 02:35:00 PM
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a mustang with an fmic is sexy.Post by: jesterrace777 on September 10, 2005, 01:18:00 PM
Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 10, 2005, 02:16:00 PM
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 10, 2005, 02:35:00 PM
QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 10 2005, 10:27 PM)
Would an older model camaro (the one before the one you have rylinkus) come with an ls1 and 6 speed? Ive seen alot of mustang forums and alot of them blew the engine while racing a camaro... I would much rather have the more reliable, but still want a tt setup.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Rylinkus on September 10, 2005, 04:51:00 PM
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The 350 in the 3rd gens only produced arouns 225 hp. Nothing amazing. (Though the looks are great.)
The 4th gen has the LT1. It's rated @ 275/285 hp/tq
5th gen, (99 and up), have the LS1 rated @ 305/315 hp/tq
There's a very significatn price jump in the ls1 camaros. As fas as Im concerned the LT1 4th gens are a far better value. With the cash you saved you could easily make your engine far more powerful then an LS1.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: jesterrace777 on September 11, 2005, 04:05:00 AM
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Post by: Rylinkus on September 10, 2005, 04:51:00 PM
The 4th gen has the LT1. It's rated @ 275/285 hp/tq
5th gen, (99 and up), have the LS1 rated @ 305/315 hp/tq
There's a very significatn price jump in the ls1 camaros. As fas as Im concerned the LT1 4th gens are a far better value. With the cash you saved you could easily make your engine far more powerful then an LS1.
Post by: jesterrace777 on September 11, 2005, 04:05:00 AM
QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 10 2005, 10:27 PM)
Would an older model camaro (the one before the one you have rylinkus) come with an ls1 and 6 speed? Ive seen alot of mustang forums and alot of them blew the engine while racing a camaro... I would much rather have the more reliable, but still want a tt setup.
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: leijae on September 18, 2005, 02:08:00 AM
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you're an idiot. i have a stage 2 turbo with less than .10 second lag
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 18, 2005, 07:15:00 AM
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Post by: leijae on September 18, 2005, 02:08:00 AM
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God created turbo lag to give V8's a chance.
you're an idiot. i have a stage 2 turbo with less than .10 second lag
Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 18, 2005, 07:15:00 AM
QUOTE(leijae @ Sep 18 2005, 10:19 AM)
you're an idiot. i have a stage 2 turbo with less than .10 second lag
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Title: Looking To Get A 1990 Mx-5
Post by: KDragon on September 18, 2005, 01:20:00 PM
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Post by: KDragon on September 18, 2005, 01:20:00 PM
QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 18 2005, 03:26 PM)
Haha your dumb.