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Post by: unrealskill on December 01, 2004, 03:25:00 PM

sup guys and girls this is the honda forms where u can show me your hondas and tell me what u got under the hood. this is for "all go and no show" ppl no 2f2f ppl in here its what i like to call it sleepers.

well here are the specs on my 89rex i have a 1.8L B18C1 moter and three-angle valve job arp head studs edelbrock intake sfp exhaust manifold.turbonetics T-61 turbo with a indy race cores intercooler and radiator aeromotive fuel system aem electronic mangement system

528hp 30 psi of boost 10.23 in to qurter mile at 126mph on 17 psi of boost

here are the cars i have beatin over the past year
-a ZO6(if u dont know what that is your a dum as$)
-a SRT-4
-a STI(god pls tell me u know what that is)
-a viper(one of the old ones)
-all shity fords lol
-a nsx
-integra type-r(i owned it so bad)
-a 3000gt
and lots of other cars
well
the only thing is that i dont know how to put a pic on here if some one can help me on that it wud be nice so i can show u my rex well pls reply asap and ford ppl i know your cryin wishing u got a honda lol.l8r all and good racein to ya

This post has been edited by Rylinkus: Sep 23 2005, 12:15 AM

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Post by: Rylinkus on December 01, 2004, 03:54:00 PM

Why not list all your mods and maybe someone will believe you?  

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Post by: unrealskill on December 01, 2004, 05:04:00 PM

ok u want it all here it is i will not put in the stuff i allredy put in there
-ge sleeves.020 over 9:1 pistons
eagle rods
crower valverain
five-speed manual stock integra gs-r transmission(it came with motor)
chassis mods
ground control coil-overs
jamex struts
rear disc brake conversoin
rota subzero wheels(or rims)
bfggoodrich g-force drag redials 225/50-15(front)
and i got a spider wide body kid but i have not put it on yet
there u happy dam   lol j/k

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Post by: Rylinkus on December 01, 2004, 06:25:00 PM

QUOTE (unrealskill @ Dec 2 2004, 02:07 AM)

ok u want it all here it is i will not put in the stuff i allredy put in there -ge sleeves.020 over 9:1 pistons eagle rods crower valverain five-speed manual stock integra gs-r transmission(it came with motor) chassis mods ground control coil-overs jamex struts rear disc brake conversoin rota subzero wheels(or rims) bfggoodrich g-force drag redials 225/50-15(front) and i got a spider wide body kid but i have not put it on yet there u happy dam   lol j/k

Not too shabby. I'm not trying to be nit picky, but it's far t6oo easy to come on the web and say I have the following mods and can run a 10 sec quarter. I know a CRX is light so it shouldn't require all that much to make it move. A few questions.

No LSD to get that power to the ground?
No clutch??? There's no feasible way a stock GSR clutch is gonna take 500hp
The 528 is whp?
Some more details on the fuel system and what it entails would be cool.
BOV?
What type of chassis mods?

As for posting images......
The "IMG" button when you post a link. Click it and then type in the link to any pic that's hosted somewhere on the web. (Pics must be hosted elsewhere as X-S DOES NOT have the BW to host everyone's pics and files.) If you only wanna toss a few pics up feel free to PM me and I can host a few. Or Cardomain is always a great place to dump pics for free.

Lastly.....
Badmouthing an entire brand is never a good thing. Almost every car manufacturer has some gems on the market. And what is a "good" car varies greatly dependant on people's needs. Ford has some solid stuff on the market. The Focus, (Though I hate many of the "tuners" that own them), isn't a bad car.  A solid AutoX car for a cheap price. The New Mustang seems to be a decent upgrade to a solid car. It's gotten rave reviews across the boards with it's upgraded chassis. And it's looks should be appealing to a wide demographic. I've always been a fan of the Lightning myself. It's  utility if a truck mixed with reasonable speed. While it doesn't have the power of the SRT-10 I have seen far too many Dodge trucks burn oil to be confident in investing that much money in em.

BTW, I drive a FORD Probe GT. (Though it's pretty much a Mazda MX6.) It's not too bad for a FWD car. I have a mod list in a few places around here though I'm too lazy to find it. I have pics here and there. It looks pretty much stock and actually has had the spoiler and GT badging removed.

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Post by: unrealskill on December 01, 2004, 08:14:00 PM

so bro let me tell u some more mods ok becuase i dont think that im telling the truth so SOME more for ya

-clutchmasters stage 5 clutch and flywheel(my new tci 600-hp axles
-and i have a fuel cell in the back of the hach and i dont have nos
its all motor bro

dont be scard of a fast as$ honda buddy    
and i leard my lesson with the stock axles man it riped out of the bottem of my car when i wus at the track so i just got the tci axle. it can handle the stress of 528 hp

i know its hard to grasp that i have a honda that has 528hp but a lot of money and work it can be done bro.

i dont think i will put on the body kit man i want a sleeper all i have is rims as out side mods.and its lowerd.so i will get thows pics to you with pm k l8r bra.

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Post by: Rylinkus on December 01, 2004, 08:39:00 PM

I wasn't totally disbelieving. But it's so damn easy to lie on the internet. I know you can make a 10sec Honda. And you can make a 10 second Probe. And 10 second neon. And almost any other car you want to throw the cash at.  At this point,, I'm not asking questions, because I don't believe, but because I'm curious. My PGT clutch lasted a shade over 6K miles with a 30% gain in HP. So I can be fairly certain a ~500% requires a upgrade or 2 to get power down.    anyway, some pics would be great. Hit me up on AIM @ Rylinkus13 if ya want or via email @ [email protected].

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Post by: MoeMan949222 on December 01, 2004, 09:52:00 PM

How about some pictures?

Ill host them if you need too.

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Post by: unrealskill on December 02, 2004, 12:17:00 PM

what do u mean host?if u can host?then i will give u the picks trust me im telling the truth.so if u can get at me on aim at xhalomaster.it wud be nice if i kud get the pics on here but there not on a site there on my comp so how do i do it help some one. so u can see my rex

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Post by: celinedrules on December 02, 2004, 01:11:00 PM

Honda CRX's are gay.

My car is a (IMG:http://www.howellautomotive.com/Howell/Store/catalog/catalog/images/BannerRiceEater.jpg)

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Post by: unrealskill on December 02, 2004, 02:08:00 PM

hahaha yeah thats what that zo6 said to me till i owned him in a race hahaha u do u drive a ford or some thing lol look buddy u cant beat me ever ok so get over it

DUM ASS :lol:

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Post by: celinedrules on December 02, 2004, 02:41:00 PM

First, how the hell would you know if I could beat you. You dont now who I am so for all you no, I could have the fastest car in the world. I know I don't or even close to it but you don't know that.

Second, no I dont drive a Ford, it's a Dodge. I a don't know if I could beat you or not but I am not being all cocky like you. I bet I stand a pretty damn good chance of beating you.

Third, I think you are full of crap.

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Post by: Rylinkus on December 02, 2004, 02:53:00 PM

Talked with unrealskill. Seems like he's got a decent setup. I got an older pic. He can give more details.



Any way you look at it 500HP in anything lighter then a Semi is gonna be quick. Now in a car that weighs less then most you're gonna be hard pressed to have something faster unless you have something heavily modded. Keep in mind even a car like the Ferrarri Enzo won't run a 10 second quarter mile. It's more like low 13s, high 12s.......

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Post by: celinedrules on December 02, 2004, 03:07:00 PM

I'm not saying that he couldn't beat me but he just assumes that he can w/out knwoing anythig about myself or my car. He is just a cocky son of a bitch who thinks that he is better than anyone else.

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Post by: yaazz on December 02, 2004, 03:33:00 PM

have an issue?
want a tissue?

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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on December 02, 2004, 04:17:00 PM

id be more interested in seeing pics, of something thats modded (let see under the hood)

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Post by: krustytheclown on December 02, 2004, 06:06:00 PM

I can pull a pic of some random website and claim that its mine too. Tell you what, take a picture with your modded xbox in it, or something to prove that you took a picture of YOUR car.

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Post by: SupraKid on December 02, 2004, 06:41:00 PM

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Post by: Rylinkus on December 02, 2004, 07:02:00 PM

QUOTE (krustytheclown @ Dec 3 2004, 03:09 AM)

I can pull a pic of some random website and claim that its mine too. Tell you what, take a picture with your modded xbox in it, or something to prove that you took a picture of YOUR car.

Agreed. It would be FAR more convincing.

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Post by: SupraKid on December 03, 2004, 05:36:00 AM

QUOTE (numbnuts22715 @ Dec 3 2004, 05:32 AM)

yep...and i really odnt think a 1.8 l could handle 500 hp... You could obtain that a lot easier by boring it out to like a 2.0 liter... that dbe a lot more practical, anybody that knows anything about fixing up cars would do that first... 30 psi is horrible to put on an engine.. that will surely fuck it up to hell.

If its tuned properly there isnt a problem at all.

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Post by: Rylinkus on December 03, 2004, 03:01:00 PM

QUOTE (numbnuts22715 @ Dec 3 2004, 05:32 AM)

yep...and i really odnt think a 1.8 l could handle 500 hp... You could obtain that a lot easier by boring it out to like a 2.0 liter... that dbe a lot more practical, anybody that knows anything about fixing up cars would do that first... 30 psi is horrible to put on an engine.. that will surely fuck it up to hell.

There's several out there that are pushing far more then 500hp. I don't doubt it's possible at all.

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Post by: Rylinkus on December 03, 2004, 03:13:00 PM

BTW, here's a few more pics he tossed me. Can't definatively provve they're his car. But they're pics of a CRX none the less. Take what you will from it.

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Post by: TrUnX on December 03, 2004, 04:03:00 PM

LMFAO, ricer alert. Lets see, an intake. Ok a ricer must-have. A strut bar, headers, an oil filter intake, and some purdddey blue wires which give him the other 360 hp. Lets not forget the riced out fenders, gay bodykit, shitty bucket seats and the must have interior paint job. I wonder why he didnt paint the engine bay, after all he did get the engine swapped right? As if your gonna run 10's with those tires, even with slicks you wouldnt run a 15. Normally i wouldnt have a problem with your car but since your so fucking cocky, talk shit, and dont have the car you claim to have, gtfo.

Heres a CRX with some decent HP, oh and btw it runs a 15.5 I doubt your shit wagon runs a 17 much less a 10 sec QM.

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Post by: Rylinkus on December 03, 2004, 05:01:00 PM

Since we all love engine bays.....



See if you can tell what the second car is....

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Post by: havocaose on December 03, 2004, 05:06:00 PM

QUOTE (Rylinkus @ Dec 2 2004, 05:56 PM)

Any way you look at it 500HP in anything lighter then a Semi is gonna be quick. Now in a car that weighs less then most you're gonna be hard pressed to have something faster unless you have something heavily modded. Keep in mind even a car like the Ferrarri Enzo won't run a 10 second quarter mile. It's more like low 13s, high 12s.......

I know you know this, im more saying this in general, not to you..

Anyone can build a rocket sled, it takes a lot of skill to make a fast track car, on a track without a lot of straights that crx would be getting lapped by an enzo after a few seconds.

I prefer to think of fast as lap time, and not 1/4 time.

QUOTE

See if you can tell what the second car is....

i'd have to say something american

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Post by: celinedrules on December 03, 2004, 05:15:00 PM

QUOTE (Rylinkus @ Dec 3 2004, 03:16 PM)

BTW, here's a few more pics he tossed me. Can't definatively provve they're his car. But they're pics of a CRX none the less. Take what you will from it.

Thats nothing special at all. I guarantee this guy is full of shit. My Dodge Neon could beat that in a race. That is if the motor mounts weren't broken.

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Post by: unrealskill on December 03, 2004, 06:39:00 PM

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Post by: celinedrules on December 03, 2004, 06:53:00 PM

Your the one thats all cocky and shit thinking your better than the rest of us. I've gotta a question.  You only have one post. Is the only reason you joined is to be a bad ass and show off your car?

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Post by: unrealskill on December 03, 2004, 07:19:00 PM

well u guys just cant take jokes here man and know i like reading all the xbox stuff and what duz my post have to do with eneything buddy all u people need to take a chill pill

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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on December 04, 2004, 02:23:00 PM

QUOTE (Rylinkus @ Dec 4 2004, 02:04 AM)

See if you can tell what the second car is....

Well i guess its a chevy seeing as the engine is painted orange (unless your just a rebel).

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Post by: FektionFekler on December 04, 2004, 02:32:00 PM

0mg0t02z r4c1nG t3h c4rz is k3wl!!!1!1111!! 2F2F!1!11

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Post by: celinedrules on December 04, 2004, 03:12:00 PM

Why dont you type so a normal person can read what the hell you just said. I can make sense of it but it would be so much easier just to type the words and probablly faster for you.

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Post by: Rylinkus on December 04, 2004, 03:35:00 PM

QUOTE (Hercules Q Einstein @ Dec 4 2004, 11:26 PM)

Well i guess its a chevy seeing as the engine is painted orange (unless your just a rebel).

Sadly it's not my car........

But I'll bet no one can guess what it is  

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Post by: celinedrules on December 05, 2004, 11:09:00 AM

QUOTE (unrealskill @ Dec 3 2004, 06:42 PM)

fist of all the pics are old and the new pics are comeing people u all need to chill i have taken the pics today and tomorrow thay will be up and i know your not going to beleve me but that paint jog got al keyed up so now its a new color.so yes u will see the gsr and all that good shit and i dont put the sliks on when im on the street man there to much to be blowing them one afet anuther and i dont know why your all get mad at this its just a car a mean guys chill the fuck out and get the dildo out of your ass's.so the new pic will be up towmorrow so suck a dick

So how come we haven't seen this pics?

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Post by: SupraKid on December 05, 2004, 01:19:00 PM

Wow it was sooooooo hard to know this guy was full of shit even before he posted pics.............    

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Post by: unrealskill on December 05, 2004, 02:40:00 PM

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Post by: celinedrules on December 05, 2004, 02:49:00 PM

If you dont want people to talk shit then you better be prepared to back up what your saying.

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Post by: CamaroGuy on December 06, 2004, 08:31:00 AM

in the pic of the motor bay is that a monza?

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Post by: nemt on December 06, 2004, 10:22:00 AM

Even if you're not lying, you're still a loser who drives a Honda.

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Post by: celinedrules on December 06, 2004, 11:29:00 AM

QUOTE (nemt @ Dec 6 2004, 10:25 AM)

Even if you're not lying, you're still a loser who drives a Honda.

A CRX at that.

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Post by: Ripasser on December 11, 2004, 01:08:00 AM

Seeing as how you have "500hp", and i assume no more than a 12 gallon tank. The more hp is created by more fuel and oxygen being cumbusted. If you have fun with it every day, shouldnt you be fillin your tank up every other day? And i assume in California gas prices are insane.

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Post by: fishlord on December 11, 2004, 10:09:00 PM

JDM V12 eh?

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Post by: jesterrace777 on December 12, 2004, 01:22:00 AM

@Rylinkus that 2nd pic kinda looks like a 2nd Generation RX-7 with the 350 V-8 conversion.  I'm just guessing though.

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Post by: fishlord on December 12, 2004, 02:52:00 AM

@Ry

Or possibly a probe with a V8 conversion

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Post by: Rylinkus on December 12, 2004, 09:27:00 AM

It's actually a 350 into a Focus ZX3. It's from a kit that came out shortly after the car came out. But there's several kits now.

http://cgi.ebay.com/...ssPageName=WDVW

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Post by: fishlord on December 12, 2004, 09:45:00 AM

Really??  it totally looks like the car in the pic has pop up lights.

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Post by: Ripasser on December 12, 2004, 05:22:00 PM

Not much of a cobra fan, but i wouldnt mind seein a pic or two.

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Post by: Rylinkus on December 12, 2004, 05:25:00 PM

QUOTE (hedstrosity @ Dec 13 2004, 01:49 AM)

i can take pics too... doing cartwheels, with my xbox, whatever the hell in front of the car with the hood popped open     ....

Pics would be most welcome. But I don't think cartwheels are quite enough. Maybe cartwheels in a sequinned jump suit with a mallard duck. Now THAT's believable.

Actually a couple pics would be pretty cool.

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Post by: brandogg on December 12, 2004, 08:47:00 PM

I've got to admit that's a fucking badass CRX.

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Post by: irfan on December 12, 2004, 09:42:00 PM

i see no turbo, i see headers... at least get a fake pic of a crx with a turbo.

those dont look like rota subzeros either. they dont look like 15s either.

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Post by: Rylinkus on December 13, 2004, 01:23:00 PM

[email protected]

There ya go. Ill have em up inside of a day once I get em.

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Post by: Rylinkus on December 13, 2004, 06:19:00 PM

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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on December 14, 2004, 12:54:00 PM

QUOTE (Altima NEO @ Dec 14 2004, 07:20 PM)

Well, while theres nothing wrong with souping up your car... the big question is, why soup up a crappy car like a civic?

Mostly because hes poor (probably due to being in high school). Can only afford to spend maybe 7k on a car and then spends every dime he gets on it.

Really is stupid to me, if you want to soup up a car save your money and buy a worthwhile one.

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Post by: Rylinkus on December 14, 2004, 01:38:00 PM

QUOTE (Hercules Q Einstein @ Dec 14 2004, 09:57 PM)

Mostly because hes poor (probably due to being in high school). Can only afford to spend maybe 7k on a car and then spends every dime he gets on it. Really is stupid to me, if you want to soup up a car save your money and buy a worthwhile one.

Like what?? A Mustang?? Why not get a Vette Z06?

Oh, you're gonna buy a Z06? Well why not buy something better, like a Porsche 911?

There's always something better. There's nothing wrong with a Civic. And if you have a problem with someone modding a Civic you should have a problem with a person modding any car, since they could have just bought something faster in the first place.

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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on December 14, 2004, 02:26:00 PM

QUOTE (Rylinkus @ Dec 14 2004, 10:41 PM)

Like what?? A Mustang?? Why not get a Vette Z06? Oh, you're gonna buy a Z06? Well why not buy something better, like a Porsche 911? There's always something better. There's nothing wrong with a Civic. And if you have a problem with someone modding a Civic you should have a problem with a person modding any car, since they could have just bought something faster in the first place.

Going to have to disagree. A Civic is in no way made to be a fast car or a racer. While a stang an vette are. Sure you could buy a better faster car but the stang and z06 are still made to be fast unlike the Civic.

You can only take a car not made for racing so far. While also when making a Civic "fast" you lose its natural advantage in gas miliage.

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Post by: unrealskill on December 14, 2004, 03:03:00 PM

thats the best part man makeing some thing fast thats not supost to be fast thayts why i love civics crx's and what about a civic si huh there racer

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Post by: unrealskill on December 14, 2004, 03:08:00 PM

Quote

Mostly because hes poor (probably due to being in high school). Can only afford to spend maybe 7k on a car and then spends every dime he gets on it.

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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on December 14, 2004, 03:13:00 PM

Key word MOSTLY.

Also you full of BS. We already proved it with you crappy CRX pics.

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Post by: Rylinkus on December 14, 2004, 04:01:00 PM

QUOTE (Hercules Q Einstein @ Dec 14 2004, 11:29 PM)

Going to have to disagree. A Civic is in no way made to be a fast car or a racer. While a stang an vette are. Sure you could buy a better faster car but the stang and z06 are still made to be fast unlike the Civic. You can only take a car not made for racing so far. While also when making a Civic "fast" you lose its natural advantage in gas miliage.

Every car has disadvantages. I don't think a Civic's gas mileage is really it's advantage. But it being FWD, may matter in winter. That's why when I only owned one car it had to be a FWD, and couldn't be a Stang or Camaro. Maybe the 4 door issue matter. There's plenty of reasons to buy a Civic. And it suffers the same downfalls when being modded that any car does.

I could argue that plenty of "sports" cars are obviously not made to be fast and sports cars, since they fail to miserably in comparison to others.

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Post by: fishlord on December 14, 2004, 11:34:00 PM

say what you will... There is a reason that honda (and specifically and specifically the civic) are the most popular cars in import tuning.

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Post by: krustytheclown on December 15, 2004, 08:07:00 AM

Insurance on a civic is a lot less than vettes, mustangs, and supras. Thats one reason. For a 98 supra with like 75,000 miles, you are still paying at least $18,000.

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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on December 15, 2004, 10:34:00 AM

QUOTE (fishlord @ Dec 15 2004, 08:37 AM)

say what you will... There is a reason that honda (and specifically and specifically the civic) are the most popular cars in import tuning.

As i said, price.

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Post by: Rylinkus on December 15, 2004, 01:27:00 PM

QUOTE (krustytheclown @ Dec 15 2004, 05:10 PM)

Insurance on a civic is a lot less than vettes, mustangs, and supras. Thats one reason. For a 98 supra with like 75,000 miles, you are still paying at least $18,000.

But then again, when you wreck a stock Vette you get insurance money for a stock Vette. When you wreck a Civic with 15K in mods you get a check for a stock Civic.

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Post by: fishlord on December 15, 2004, 02:48:00 PM

QUOTE (Hercules Q Einstein @ Dec 15 2004, 07:37 PM)

As i said, price.

sunfires, cavaliers, and kias are a hell of a lot cheaper than hondas...

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Post by: Rylinkus on December 15, 2004, 02:57:00 PM

QUOTE (fishlord @ Dec 15 2004, 11:51 PM)

sunfires, cavaliers, and kias are a hell of a lot cheaper than hondas...

Drive in a Kia and you'll know why most people would never wish to own one. They have got to be one of the worst cars I've ever seen.

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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on December 15, 2004, 05:33:00 PM

QUOTE (fishlord @ Dec 15 2004, 11:51 PM)

sunfires, cavaliers, and kias are a hell of a lot cheaper than hondas...

Civic Coupe - MSPR: $13k - $18k
Chevrolet Cavalier - MSRP: $14k - $18k
Pontiac Sunfire  - MSRP: $11k - $15k

They arent a "hell of lot cheaper" the Cavalier can be the same price or more. The main thing is ricers tend to like imports which you didnt name. In high school most kids thought the only way to buy a car to mod is to get a import.

Also dont even mention a KIA.

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Post by: hedstrosity on December 15, 2004, 07:01:00 PM

QUOTE (fishlord @ Dec 14 2004, 11:37 PM)

say what you will... There is a reason that honda (and specifically and specifically the civic) are the most popular cars in import tuning.

cause every parent wants to buy there kids one      .....
import tuning.... that will always sound like an oxy moron to me. when referred to a civic at least.

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Post by: Ripasser on December 15, 2004, 10:05:00 PM

The thing with Hondas is that they are light as hell.  My 83 Z28 Camaro is EXTREMELY heavy due to the fact that it is a uni-body. My car still beats many of the Hondas with "exhausts" ( which most are only the catbacks and back) and my car is COMPLETELY stock... accept the fact that i put a stereo in it. And it still makes me laugh at how people think they can beat me in a race. Im not braggine but i believe american muscle is the way to go.

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Post by: JMD1 on December 29, 2004, 10:32:00 AM

This is such horseshit!! LOL i dont beleive I read this whole thread.

Being the domestic guy I am I can offer good technical advice on SBC's and how to make them go fast.My 80 firebird which has a 350,9:1 compression,healthy cam and the usual mods like exhaust,edlebrock intake,holley carb,3200 converter.I ran 13.3 @ 100 which isnt bad for a $2500 car.

I also know a little bit about hondas and I can tell you that this is 100% BS.

If you were putting that power down to the ground you'd be alot faster than 10's with a dinky trap like that.Let us see a front end shot...where is your FMIC? Turbo? BOV?.

What are you tuning the car with?

At least post one with some FMIC bling.Post up your dyno charts and time slips.Do you frequent honda forums? hondatech?

Im not seeing any kind of boost gauge,boost controller or anything.

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Post by: jesterrace777 on December 29, 2004, 12:24:00 PM

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Post by: fishlord on December 30, 2004, 08:27:00 PM

QUOTE(JMD1 @ Dec 29 2004, 07:03 PM)

This is such horseshit!! LOL i dont beleive I read this whole thread.

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Post by: unrealskill on December 30, 2004, 10:57:00 PM

wow you guys are so nice in here and if you dont have a honda pls dont post your car here.this is called craping so pls dont do it here and i cant care if you dont think im telling the truth i know i have the car so its fine if you dont think i have it hey its ok guys im fine with it i dont care if i cant spell and i dont know why you insist on makeing fun of my spelling dude pls pls stop thx guys l8r

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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on December 30, 2004, 11:14:00 PM

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wow you guys are so nice in here and if you dont have a honda pls dont post your car here.

In the automotive forum??

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this is called craping so pls dont do it here

Kinda like making up things and getting real pissed people know your lying.

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and i cant care if you dont think im telling the truth i know i have the car so its fine if you dont think i have it hey its ok guys im fine with it

Yeah you do have a CRX, to bad its only mod is a muffler tip. It has closer to 100hp than 500hp

QUOTE

i dont care if i cant spell and i dont know why you insist on makeing fun of my spelling dude pls pls stop thx guys l8r

We make fun of it because out of the thousands of members on this board you have the worst spelling, period. Thats just sad, and it really is hard to read most of your posts.

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Post by: jesterrace777 on December 31, 2004, 01:20:00 AM

QUOTE(unrealskill @ Dec 31 2004, 07:28 AM)

wow you guys are so nice in here and if you dont have a honda pls dont post your car here.this is called craping so pls dont do it here and i cant care if you dont think im telling the truth i know i have the car so its fine if you dont think i have it hey its ok guys im fine with it i dont care if i cant spell and i dont know why you insist on makeing fun of my spelling dude pls pls stop thx guys l8r

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Post by: yaazz on January 01, 2005, 08:01:00 PM

ehh Id hate to say it but my geo could, and has beaten CRX's just like that one. If you had a turbo like you said, maybe not, but I dont see anything but ricer accessories

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Post by: unrealskill on January 02, 2005, 08:56:00 PM

hahahahahahaa your all funny,it duz not mader to me so i will just sit here and read you all talking shit a fucking geo world record of top speed is fucking 150mph w/e mod pls close this post for me i sick of these losers trying to bring me down all the time so pls stop i have been being nice in the post for a long time ppl be nice  one FUCKING time Pls pls pls pls pls pls pls be kind in your life its the best whay to live happy just because you all got made fun of and my still get made fun of in school but pls dont take it out on other ppl man so we are nerds on here so what dont be little bitches and be nice dont talk shit over the net pls pls cant we all wach g4tech together with no shit talk lol



o yeah thx for fucking geting my pic takin off and that shit dont suck i know you got no photo shop skill but come on

all have a nice day oh yeah fuck spell check aojnaefg[jubna['ugb;gujbng;ujb[tuhn['

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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on January 02, 2005, 09:03:00 PM

QUOTE(unrealskill @ Jan 3 2005, 05:27 AM)

hahahahahahaa your all funny,it duz not mader to me so i will just sit here and read you all talking shit a fucking geo world record of top speed is fucking 150mph w/e mod pls close this post for me i sick of these losers trying to bring me down all the time so pls stop i have been being nice in the post for a long time ppl be nice  one FUCKING time Pls pls pls pls pls pls pls be kind in your life its the best whay to live happy just because you all got made fun of and my still get made fun of in school but pls dont take it out on other ppl man so we are nerds on here so what dont be little bitches and be nice dont talk shit over the net pls pls cant we all wach g4tech together with no shit talk lol

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Post by: jesterrace777 on January 02, 2005, 09:15:00 PM

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Post by: Rylinkus on January 03, 2005, 01:36:00 PM

Well...... I miss so much when I go on vacation.

Ummm, what to say....

Well, I'll believe the Hp vs. 1/4 mile times numbers given, though I can't say I believe this articular car. I've seen similar cars run reasonably similar times with close hps. So I don't really expect it to go much faster. After all it is a FWD car.....

UNREAL
As for you sig.....
I don't know. Wasn't me. Maybe you should make sure it's still hosted wherever you put it. Unless you got a PM from a mod I doubt it was removed on you. That being said, I DID tell you that sig was remarkably large well over a week ago. It's not like it was close enough that someone may not notice. It was as obvious as you could make it. So if you didn't resize it then I'm not sorry for ya. You obviously have PS to reize it with, since you told me that you made it yourself......

Speaking of which....
You can't seem to get pics up on the web of your car. You claimed you didn't have a way to host them. Didn't you send me a link to your Halo Clan's website??? Surely if you have a website like that up, you must have some server capabilities. Or is that BS as well?

Anyway, I'm gonna leave this thread open for a few hours. If anyone can get it back on track or feels like trying to debunk my claim that a 500hp CRX would be in the 10 second range then maybe it can survive. Otherwise there's really no point. We don't need more BS in this thread. It's plenty deep already.

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Post by: twistedsymphony on January 03, 2005, 02:27:00 PM

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Post by: Rylinkus on January 03, 2005, 03:32:00 PM

With the mods he listed originally he is more then capable of the numbers he listed. They are actually VERY reasonable numbers that are similar to those of several other cars with relatively similar mods. Both the HP numbers and claimed 1/4 times are consistant with others that have comparable mods.

While Civics may not be purposely built to be highly moddable, but with the interchangibility of many engine components from one engine to the next they make it very easy to create a solid base for almost any kind of route you want to go with your car.

As for the WRX and Subie. Well,  don't know. Frankly I think the WRX is a great example of an under achieving car in it's stock form. With it's listed HP numbers and claims that were made when it was first released it was expected to be faster then it is and it simply does not live up to it. I'm not a bigt WRX fan. I'd rather have the A4, or failing that an EVO.

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Post by: twistedsymphony on January 03, 2005, 03:47:00 PM

(if you could find one) before I'd go for a late model Honda. All of which are better performance platforms than a CRX IMO.

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Post by: Rylinkus on January 03, 2005, 04:29:00 PM

QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Jan 4 2005, 12:18 AM)

Regardless of the WRX/A4 argument...

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Post by: twistedsymphony on January 03, 2005, 09:16:00 PM

yeah I recently decided to start a "project car" that I can do crazy stuff to and not worry about having it undrivable for a week or two.  Those were some of the cars I started looking at. After looking at the prices of them I was completely baffled as to why people would buy some Honda or Acura for modding when they could have something much faster / cooler / less popular.

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Post by: Rylinkus on January 04, 2005, 01:25:00 PM

QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Jan 4 2005, 05:47 AM)

yeah I recently decided to start a "project car" that I can do crazy stuff to and not worry about having it undrivable for a week or two.  Those were some of the cars I started looking at. After looking at the prices of them I was completely baffled as to why people would buy some Honda or Acura for modding when they could have something much faster / cooler / less popular.

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Post by: jesterrace777 on January 04, 2005, 07:46:00 PM

  It's definitely time for me to get something else.

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Post by: fishlord on January 05, 2005, 11:22:00 AM

QUOTE(jesterrace777 @ Jan 5 2005, 04:17 AM)

Not if you want a vehicle that is at-least semi-fuel efficient.  I just caluculated how much gas my N/A Second Generation RX-7 goes through and I can't believe it.      It's definitely time for me to get something else.

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Post by: jesterrace777 on January 05, 2005, 11:36:00 AM

Yeah, at this point I am looking at a couple of different options.  Neither of them would be my first choice but cost is of the essence here.  I'm looking for something that will give me the best of both worlds (power when I want it and fuel efficiency when I don't).  A 4 banger with a big turbo seems to be the answer.  It certainly won't get 30MPG but if I keep the RPMs low I should be able to still get 18-20MPG, which is at least 5MPG better than my RX-7.

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Post by: fishlord on January 05, 2005, 11:43:00 AM

QUOTE(jesterrace777 @ Jan 5 2005, 08:07 PM)

Yeah, at this point I am looking at a couple of different options.  Neither of them would be my first choice but cost is of the essence here.  I'm looking for something that will give me the best of both worlds (power when I want it and fuel efficiency when I don't).  A 4 banger with a big turbo seems to be the answer.  It certainly won't get 30MPG but if I keep the RPMs low I should be able to still get 18-20MPG, which is at least 5MPG better than my RX-7.

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Post by: jesterrace777 on January 05, 2005, 11:28:00 PM

QUOTE(fishlord @ Jan 5 2005, 08:14 PM)

you might be surprized... generally improving the performance of an engine improves it efficiency as well... i had this article on a mkIV supra that had some rediculous amount of power (like 500-600+ whp)  AND the thing was an automatic and the guy still got 30 mpg if he didnt honk on it driving around town. 

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Post by: twistedsymphony on January 06, 2005, 10:35:00 AM

 I've also seen dyno graphs (in that mag) of a Mach IVs with close to 1300 and no nitrous  

It always boggles my mind how much pressure that supra motor can hold.

lots of great examples in that mag:
365hp Silvia http://turbomagazine...0107tur_cooker/
980hp Supra http://turbomagazine...03tur_980supra/
740hp WRX http://turbomagazine...s/0301tur_ej20/
949hp Supra http://turbomagazine.../0212tur_titan/
375hp WRX http://turbomagazine...es/0209tur_wrx/

A real civic http://turbomagazine.../0208tur_hocus/
though still "Its best time to date is 11.20 at 118 mph"

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Post by: fishlord on January 06, 2005, 11:20:00 AM

sportcompactcar is my fav of the tuner mags.

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Post by: Rylinkus on January 06, 2005, 01:33:00 PM

How bout a Mazda 323 GTX? You can still get some solid power out of em all the while keeping a reasonable amount of gas mileage. If gas really is a concern though, maybe get a commuter car and then the one you play with.

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Post by: fishlord on January 06, 2005, 09:34:00 PM

How hard to find are the 323 GTXs?

a good hiway cruiser would be a taurus sho... they have good power and are geared really long.

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Post by: jesterrace777 on January 07, 2005, 01:00:00 AM

QUOTE(Rylinkus @ Jan 6 2005, 10:04 PM)

How bout a Mazda 323 GTX? You can still get some solid power out of em all the while keeping a reasonable amount of gas mileage. If gas really is a concern though, maybe get a commuter car and then the one you play with.

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Post by: iLLNESS on May 06, 2005, 12:48:00 AM

i dont understand

u said 30psi then 17psi for the same time?

then later on u say its all motor?

wtf

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Post by: civikb18 on May 06, 2005, 01:25:00 PM

i have a honda civic, nothing like tha "super rex" but i enjoy driving it. well i did when i was home. kinda in iraq right now so hopefully i will see it soon.  
     
     ill list some spec for anyone who cares
     it gets a little over 200 hp to the wheels

     ls/vtec conversion
     Hondata ecu
     dc sports 4-1 ceramic header
     skunk 2 intake manifold
     aem v2 intake
    apexi cat back exaust
     skunk 2 front, strut tower bar   rear tower and tie bars
    skunk 2 coil overs and camber kit
    b&m short shifter
     17" rota subzeros
    invader cf hood
     clarion indash touch screen dvd player
    and i got to add tha NOS even though im not a fan of it it was a little something for the track (even though i never ran it after i got the NOS)

      its been fun doing most of the work to it but its up for sell, trying for a 350Z when i get back.
    i have a couple a pics but i dont know how to send them

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Post by: jesterrace777 on May 07, 2005, 12:32:00 AM

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Post by: kezor on May 11, 2005, 10:34:00 AM

that much mods why not drive a nice car rather than a honda

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Post by: deftonesmx17 on May 11, 2005, 11:07:00 AM

QUOTE(fishlord @ Dec 15 2004, 01:40 AM)

say what you will... There is a reason that honda (and specifically and specifically the civic) are the most popular cars in import tuning.

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Post by: deftonesmx17 on May 11, 2005, 11:10:00 AM

QUOTE(jesterrace777 @ Jan 7 2005, 03:06 AM)

As for the Taurus SHO, no thanks.  I prefer a car that won't fall apart on me.

ummm the only problem is that you need to get the cams welded..............rock solid car otherwise......mine ran all the way to 192,000 miles before any major problems, and I have a serious leadfoot

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Post by: jesterrace777 on May 11, 2005, 12:42:00 PM

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Post by: reZz on May 14, 2005, 10:22:00 AM

Man this shit is weak. Here's a list of the mods I've done on my 1999 Civic Hatchback.

-Stock engine swapped with a Ferrari Enzo's engine, that's like 792 hp right there.
-74 stickers at 13.2 hp each =976.8 hp
-Super big exhaust tip which adds 42 hp
-Suicide scissor doors, takes off 3 seconds from my 9 second 1/4 mile time
-1253 lb/ft of torque.

Therefore, my Civic has 1810.8 bhp, and 1253 lb/ft of torque, plus a 6 seconds 1/4 mile, and a 0-60 time of about 2.4 seconds. Ya so if anyone wants to race me, I'll beat them, obviously.

Oh wait I forgot to add, my car has super hydraulics that can make the car jump 20 feet, and I also got some super-tite 24" spinners.

EDIT: Please don't ask for pics because I don't have my 14 megapixel camera with me right now, my super hot girlfriend is using it for a science project.

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Post by: XBL_SUCKS on May 14, 2005, 11:43:00 AM

and a 3000GT man they must be shitty racers. I mean you are in a Front engine front drive car and you 4WD and FR car's. Post ome videos of it then I will belive it.

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Post by: Lococoin on May 16, 2005, 12:54:00 AM

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Post by: iLLNESS on May 23, 2005, 12:32:00 AM

QUOTE(Rylinkus @ Dec 15 2004, 10:38 PM)

But then again, when you wreck a stock Vette you get insurance money for a stock Vette. When you wreck a Civic with 15K in mods you get a check for a stock Civic.

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Post by: ddzc on May 27, 2005, 04:21:00 AM

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Post by: Rylinkus on June 05, 2005, 08:20:00 PM

I'm really sick of all this "efficiency" bullshit? What's more efficient mean? Making 200 HP out of a small displacement engine and getting the same gas mileage that a V8 making the same HP would get? The efficiency part must have to do with the ease in which you can fit the engine in the back of a VW Jetta if you need to move it.

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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on June 06, 2005, 06:50:00 PM

QUOTE(Rylinkus @ Jun 6 2005, 04:31 AM)

I'm really sick of all this "efficiency" bullshit? What's more efficient mean? Making 200 HP out of a small displacement engine and getting the same gas mileage that a V8 making the same HP would get? The efficiency part must have to do with the ease in which you can fit the engine in the back of a VW Jetta if you need to move it.

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Post by: Code-Red on June 06, 2005, 08:17:00 PM

Im new to ricers/tuners/imports or whatever the hell you want to call them, but to achieve 500+ HP in an Inline 4 Cyl. engine you would have to do many things:

- Rip the stock (D16A6 DOHC is it in a 89 CRX?) and shovel in a B18 1.8 or D16A8 (but thats more work)
- Install racing headers, rocker valves, camshafts, crankshafts, pulleys, timing, electrical, ECU, transmission, axels, driveshaft, wheels, thats all I care to mention at the moment
- Post and polish the engine so its mint condition
- Bore all the cylinders and replace the pistons with larger racings ones
- Brand new exhaust system from headers to muffler
- Turbo stage 3 or higher
- Completely new intake setup for cold air

And I'm probably missing quite a bit, but I bet you that setup would get you just about 350-400 horses. Now if you want to take the pussies way and throw your baby bottle of nitrous in there, you might get about 450 HP. For that matter, I did not see any of that list in your car unreal. All I saw was a POS cold air intake which will run you $30 and enough garbage body shit to choke a camel.

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Post by: zingZACH on June 11, 2005, 03:30:00 AM

Get a life, and stop bragging about shit that you dont have.

If you were to really have a fast CRX with the amounts of power you say you have... you would have a whole page of modifications....

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Post by: Rylinkus on June 11, 2005, 09:26:00 AM

QUOTE(zingZACH @ Jun 11 2005, 11:41 AM)

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Post by: ubernewb on June 13, 2005, 01:51:00 AM

that right there is what a 10 second crx looks like.. does that look very street friendly? i don't think so.. once you pass the 12 second mark in a crx you have made the thing almost impossible to drive on a day to day basis. just the way it is.. anyone that says otherwise is full of shit.

i hate stupid ricers that spew this crap, they make every other honda lover out there (like myself) look like a joke. i love my car, but i know and respect it's limits.. it's peppy alright, but i'm not stupid enough to think it can hold up against a car that was built to go fast.. there's a big difference between peppy and fast.


edit: here's another pic that shows how non-daily driver this thing is. do a google search on bisi's crx if you wanna see time slips. bisi's a household name on the honda tuning scene. ... not bad for n/a

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Post by: kevinlekiller on June 19, 2005, 04:36:00 PM

If you want to see something actually interesting look at the link at the bottom.
Its a guy that buys a old 4 cylinder mustang thats in bad condition, buys all kinds of parts from the scrapyard, gets it to over 30 psi and does 12 seconds with about 20 psi on the drag strip. Now he's making a volvo(or something like that) hemi head fit on his ford engine.

Read the page and at the bottom there is a next page you click on (the site is pretty long, he started in 2000 and his still going. Took me about two hours to go through the site checking out the videos and sounds. But its worth it.

http://msvorinich.it...om/oldindex.htm

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Post by: jesterrace777 on June 29, 2005, 12:06:00 PM

QUOTE(mau108 @ Jun 17 2005, 07:51 PM)

guys dont underestimate a civic

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Post by: ktm300 on July 05, 2005, 02:28:00 AM

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Post by: ubernewb on July 06, 2005, 01:07:00 AM

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Post by: Rylinkus on July 06, 2005, 08:12:00 PM

QUOTE(ubernewb @ Jul 6 2005, 09:18 AM)

just checking your sig as well...

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Post by: ubernewb on July 06, 2005, 09:04:00 PM

they looked to me like his replies to other people, as i'm used to seeing sig quotes with

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this bubble

no harm-no foul then  

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Post by: ktm300 on July 07, 2005, 12:26:00 AM

)  Either way I leave for WyoTech in October  

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Post by: xboxmodder4life on July 07, 2005, 12:46:00 AM

wyotech..i went there and it fucking sucked the big one. I got there and they didnt have enough tools because they over booked the classes. IT was friggen retarded. I ended up leaving and going to a university back home, and took a different path


If its the one in blairsville have fun..that town blows. IT may of got better as they invested tons of money into tools or so they told me.



O well good luck

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Post by: iLLNESS on July 07, 2005, 02:17:00 AM

either way.. the thing about american muscle heads is they try to compare their fully built v8s with minor modded 4 bangers heh..  u always hear about it.. oh man id slap that honda ricer with my v8 w/ supercharger super bored out blah blah the positrac and the rebuilt auto tranny blah blah blah

blah i cant even type.. i tell you american muscle heads wont accept the fact that something outside the usa is better lol

look how cars are selling now.. #1 car manufacturer is toyota... which happens to be a japanese company called toyoda

www.honda-tech.com

EDIT: oh hey here we are.. not the exact link i was looking for but heres the engine itself with specs

http://www.mulsannes...om/mugenv8.html

damn.. honda has the 4cyl, v6, and with this engine theyll have the v8.. lol those muscle cars will be rarer as the days go by.. but not for a good reason

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Post by: ubernewb on July 07, 2005, 02:28:00 AM

but i do agree with you on how some domestic drivers think.. they drive their cars with supercharged-this and bored-out-that and they feel proud everytime they pass up a honda with intake/exhaust. that's like mike tyson being proud about beating up a 10 year old...

grow the fuck up already... at least be realistic and compare your gas guzzling mammoth to a car with similar mods.. might just discover that the gap isn't as wide as you'd like to think it is.

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Post by: Senorpapacabasa on July 07, 2005, 12:13:00 PM

having owned a turbocharged integra, i know how fun they can be to drive.  but it can not compare to driving a rwd torque monster, no matter if it is domestic or imports.  honda's are ok, but there are so many better imports out there... dsm's, nissans, etc.

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Post by: Rylinkus on July 07, 2005, 03:56:00 PM

QUOTE(Senorpapacabasa @ Jul 7 2005, 08:24 PM)

having owned a turbocharged integra, i know how fun they can be to drive.  but it can not compare to driving a rwd torque monster, no matter if it is domestic or imports.  honda's are ok, but there are so many better imports out there... dsm's, nissans, etc.

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Post by: ktm300 on July 08, 2005, 04:09:00 AM

QUOTE(xboxmodder4life @ Jul 7 2005, 08:57 AM)

wyotech..i went there and it fucking sucked the big one. I got there and they didnt have enough tools because they over booked the classes. IT was friggen retarded. I ended up leaving and going to a university back home, and took a different path

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Post by: Lococoin on July 23, 2005, 11:32:00 AM

trey85stang

that time insnt all that bad. its very hard to hook up a high horsepower front wheel drive.

this guy has 660 whp and he only runs mid 10's, mind you he was only running 1.4 bar but still, he spins way too much. You can check out his video here.

http://www3.telus.ne...eetEK9Civic.wmv

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Post by: Rylinkus on July 23, 2005, 08:22:00 PM

QUOTE(iLLNESS @ Jul 7 2005, 10:28 AM)

a honda 4 banger pushing the same horse as a domestic v8 will burn less gas.. its just known that imported engines are better on fuel...

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Post by: jesterrace777 on July 24, 2005, 02:15:00 PM

Wait a sec.  What is your MPG on your Z28 again?  I know it does quite well on the highway but doesn't it suck around town?

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Post by: Rylinkus on July 24, 2005, 03:08:00 PM

2000 Honda S2000
Standard Engine     2.0L 240 hp I4
Horsepower    240 @ 8300 RPM
Torque (lb-ft)    153 @ 7500 RPM
City (mpg)     20
Highway (mpg)    26

2000 Acura NSX
Standard Engine     3.2L 290 hp V6
Horsepower    290 @ 7100 RPM
Torque (lb-ft)    224 @ 5500 RPM
City (mpg)     17
Highway (mpg)    24

1995 Chevy Camaro Z28
Standard Engine     5.7L 285 hp V8
Horsepower     285 @ 5000 RPM     275
Torque (lb-ft)    325 @ 2400 RPM
City (mpg)     17
Highway (mpg)    25 - 26

Comparing to the S2000 isn't quite fair as the Lt1 produces considerably more power then the S2000. (Though it's pretty close like I said.) But picking the most comparable Honda I could think of yielded the numbers above. Again I ask, hows the Honda more effiecient???



You know what, let's compare a few more. How bout @ 160 hp?
1995 Ford Probe GT
2.5L V6
164hp/160 ft/lbs
21/26 City/Highway

1994 Prelude Si
2.4L I4
160hp/162 ft/lbs
22/26 City/Highway

And just so we don't think it's just Honda engines that are overated......
2004 Toyota Celica GTS  (Sportiest thing Toyota has in the US ATM)
Standard Engine    1.8L 180 hp I4
Horsepower       180 @ 7600 RPM
Torque (lb-ft)        130 @ 6800 RPM    
City (mpg)     24 - 25
Highway (mpg)    31 - 33

2005 Dodge Neon SRT-4
Standard Engine   2.4L 230 hp I4
Horsepower       230 @ 5300 RPM
Torque (lb-ft)       250 @ 2200 RPM
City (mpg)         22
Highway (mpg)    30

2005 Subaru WRX
Standard Engine     2.0L 227 hp H4
Horsepower    227 @ 6000 RPM
Torque (lb-ft)    217 @ 4000 RPM
City (mpg)     19 - 20
Highway (mpg)    26 - 27

2005 Mistsubishi Lancer Evo 7
Standard Engine     2.0L 276 hp I4
Horsepower    276 @ 6500 RPM
Torque (lb-ft)    286 @ 3500 RPM
City (mpg)     19
Highway (mpg)    26

2005 Ford Mustang V6
Standard Engine     4.0L 210 hp V6
Horsepower    210 @ 5300 RPM
Torque (lb-ft)    240 @ 3500 RPM
City (mpg)     19
Highway (mpg)    25 - 28

2005 Nissan 350Z
Standard Engine     3.5L 287 hp V6
Horsepower    287 @ 6200 RPM
Torque (lb-ft)    274 @ 4800 RPM
City (mpg)     20
Highway (mpg)    26

2005 Cadillac CTS
Standard Engine     3.6L 255 hp V6
Horsepower    255 @ 6200 RPM
Torque (lb-ft)    252 @ 3200 RPM
City (mpg)     17 - 18
Highway (mpg)    27

So find ANYTHING in those numbers that prove that a Japaneese engine is more effiecient then a Domestic. (Actually the damn SRT-4 looks to provde the most Hp for your fuel.)  Producing HP requires burning fuel. Period.

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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on July 24, 2005, 03:42:00 PM

Agree 100% in this day and age every car company makes fuel efficint cars. The whole japanese cars being better on fuel and such is because in the old days the US didnt care about making cars that used little gas. People dont realize things have changed in the last 20 years.

Plus most all cars are built on the same foundations and tech nowadays. Japanese and American cars are so much alike they even share parts and designs  in alot of cases.

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Post by: Rylinkus on July 24, 2005, 03:45:00 PM

I don't entirely agree. There's not a lot of pushrod engines like the Chevy 350 used in Imports. But who cares if it's an old design so long as it yields the same hp/fuel numbers as anything Honda or any other company produces.

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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on July 24, 2005, 03:50:00 PM

Yeah forgot yours was a chevy and there for probaly has a pushrod engine.

Anyway i dont mean they are always exactly the same. I just mean you cant say one country is better at any one thing since we both have cars built off the same tech (atleast all new tech).

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Post by: Rylinkus on July 24, 2005, 03:53:00 PM

I just find myself frustrated with all the honda kids using the word "effiecient" to describe their engines since they produce a lot of hp from the limited displacement. Who cares? Has anyone ever really went car shopping and not chose a car because it had too much displacement?

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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on July 24, 2005, 04:00:00 PM

Another point i agree with. Id much rather buy an american V8 5.9L making 525hp than a Japanese I4 2.0 making 245hp. While yes i agree the I4 is a much more impressive feat, its still not better. Im sure American companys COULD make one just like it. Whats the point though? Impressive HP to Liter ratios are just a cool little thing to brag about. At the end of the day it has no bearing on how you car runs (other than less tourqe).

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Post by: Rylinkus on July 24, 2005, 05:11:00 PM

Nice car. I always liked the looks of the Integras. And they look excellent in black. Where are you located. It's obviously not the states since thats a RHD car. Aside from that you gotta get yourself some headers on that thing man. Theyre so easy to do on most Hondas.

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Post by: advanitr on July 24, 2005, 05:44:00 PM

I'm in the UK England, Keen eye for detail RHD.

Yeah Got a 4-2-1 header installed but haven't got new photos, 4-2-1 Header, Hondata, CAI, oil catch can, Ground wire Kit, Silicone hoses (RED), Exhaust, adjustable suspension, rear strut bar Type R, 17 Kosei Sniper Rims on Toyos and an S2000 start button Think thats every thing.

Haven't taken it on a dyno yet so not sure on output.

REVS: LOL Off the Clock.

Black ITR ares rare in the UK only 500 Units produced in the uk for UKDM.

Thanks

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Post by: Rylinkus on July 24, 2005, 05:52:00 PM

Not a bad start at all. I know breathing mods really help out those Honda engines. I know a VAFC and Skunk 2 Intake Manifold produced some very hefty gains in my friends Integra.

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Post by: Rylinkus on July 24, 2005, 06:58:00 PM

My car dynoed 289 rWHP. This was before I fixed a nasty vacuum leak and tightened my exhaust manifold back down. I now need Headers and a Cat back exhaust. I'm debating brands.

Next summer I want to get to 400 rWHP. the 2 options I'm tooling around with right now are a LLoyd Elliot head kit. There's a few options and they all get me into that range. Or a S/C setup of some sort (Prochgarger seems to be VERY popular). I think the S/C method seems a bit more fun. I kind of like being able to say I have a Supercharged Camaro. We shall see when the time omes I guess.

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Post by: iLLNESS on July 28, 2005, 12:41:00 AM

QUOTE(Rylinkus @ Jul 24 2005, 11:19 PM)

2000 Honda S2000

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Post by: Rylinkus on July 28, 2005, 02:22:00 PM

QUOTE(iLLNESS @ Jul 28 2005, 08:52 AM)

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Post by: prominator on August 24, 2005, 11:40:00 PM

you are just dont like black & mexican people you races person
god rules
do u think its cool to be races?

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Post by: Psykomantis00 on August 25, 2005, 06:37:00 AM

QUOTE(prominator @ Aug 25 2005, 07:51 AM)

you are just dont like black & mexican people you races person

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Post by: prominator on August 25, 2005, 02:10:00 PM

he is kkk all the way

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Post by: Rylinkus on August 25, 2005, 07:36:00 PM

QUOTE(prominator @ Aug 25 2005, 10:21 PM)

he is kkk all the way

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Post by: Psykomantis00 on August 26, 2005, 07:37:00 PM

QUOTE(Rylinkus @ Aug 26 2005, 03:47 AM)

What the hell are you talking about?

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Post by: Rylinkus on September 19, 2005, 07:21:00 PM

I can do the math just fine. I just can't come up with one reason why anyone would think that better hp/l makes a car more efficient. Has anyone ever really cared what size displacement engine they had so long as it met their performance and gas mileage needs? I mean, if I can get similar gas mileage and more power with a V8 engine, how is the S2000 engine more effiecient?

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Post by: jesterrace777 on September 21, 2005, 09:34:00 PM

QUOTE(alisson @ Sep 21 2005, 04:31 PM)

i dont think its more effiecient, but the weight is less. less whieght better performance.

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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 22, 2005, 04:55:00 AM

Not to mention, the sound of an engine. No matter how powerfull a 4cyl just wont sound as good as a V8. I know this doesnt effect preformance in anyway but...

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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 22, 2005, 12:16:00 PM

QUOTE(kevinlekiller @ Sep 22 2005, 08:17 PM)

So true, the sound makes you think its more powerfull 

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Post by: jesterrace777 on September 22, 2005, 01:08:00 PM

QUOTE(Hercules Q Einstein @ Sep 22 2005, 01:06 PM)

Not to mention, the sound of an engine. No matter how powerfull a 4cyl just wont sound as good as a V8. I know this doesnt effect preformance in anyway but...

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Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 22, 2005, 03:23:00 PM

Why in the heck is this topic still going on? Can it be locked please and start a new one about an actual car and not about a fake list of parts that some guy tried to pass off without knowing anything about anything (litterally, i mean come on, trying to pass off a pic of a pic of a crx thats supposed to have 528hp and be a sleeper and seing a crx with stock engine z3 fenders and rims) is annoying.

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Post by: thewickedjester on September 22, 2005, 03:30:00 PM

QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 22 2005, 05:34 PM)

Why in the heck is this topic still going on? Can it be locked please and start a new one about an actual car and not about a fake list of parts that some guy tried to pass off without knowing anything about anything (litterally, i mean come on, trying to pass off a pic of a pic of a crx thats supposed to have 528hp and be a sleeper and seing a crx with stock engine z3 fenders and rims) is annoying.

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Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 22, 2005, 04:27:00 PM

QUOTE(thewickedjester @ Sep 22 2005, 11:41 PM)

So... dont click on the topic...?

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Post by: Rylinkus on September 22, 2005, 05:10:00 PM

QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 23 2005, 12:38 AM)

I still have to see the topic's title... at least change the name, seing "honda froms" pisses me off for some reason.

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Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 22, 2005, 05:17:00 PM

QUOTE(Rylinkus @ Sep 23 2005, 01:21 AM)

better? 

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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on September 22, 2005, 05:47:00 PM

QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 23 2005, 12:38 AM)

I still have to see the topic's title... at least change the name, seing "honda froms" pisses me off for some reason.

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Post by: Rylinkus on September 22, 2005, 05:54:00 PM

QUOTE(Hercules Q Einstein @ Sep 23 2005, 01:58 AM)

I kinda thought the title was parts of its charm...

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Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 22, 2005, 06:10:00 PM

QUOTE(Rylinkus @ Sep 23 2005, 02:05 AM)

You can change it back if you like.

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Post by: thewickedjester on September 22, 2005, 06:38:00 PM

QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 22 2005, 06:38 PM)

I still have to see the topic's title... at least change the name, seing "honda froms" pisses me off for some reason.

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Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 22, 2005, 06:54:00 PM

QUOTE(thewickedjester @ Sep 23 2005, 02:49 AM)

You know what you're problem is. You complain to much.

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Post by: thewickedjester on September 22, 2005, 06:57:00 PM

QUOTE

I really dont know why, and I know it shouldnt but everytime I saw the name of the topic I litterally started to get enraged

Then you have some anger issues

QUOTE

You know what your problem is? You stalk me too much

Stalk you? No no no, you just happen to irritate me the most. More of a coincidence than a 'stalking' per say.
(I was just messing with you more than anything by the way. I agree, the topic name was rather irritating)

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Post by: Psykomantis00 on September 22, 2005, 07:00:00 PM

QUOTE(thewickedjester @ Sep 23 2005, 03:08 AM)

Then you have some anger issues

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Post by: Rylinkus on September 22, 2005, 08:26:00 PM

QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 23 2005, 03:05 AM)

I complain to much? Im complaining about getting a topic closed because it started out as a made up car and is now 13 pages of flames and now talking about the name of the topic, this should have been closed by page 3. If I cant get it closed I at least got it renamed (I really dont know why, and I know it shouldnt but everytime I saw the name of the topic I litterally started to get enraged) so now Im all good.

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Post by: Rylinkus on September 23, 2005, 02:36:00 PM

QUOTE(alisson @ Sep 23 2005, 06:38 PM)

True, but what i meant was that if you have less weigth betwen the front tiers you get better cornering performance etc. and the torque of a straight 4-cyl engine compared to a V8 is never going to be close.

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Post by: Granulated on November 22, 2005, 11:43:00 PM

http://overboost.com/story.asp?id=1450

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Post by: jesterrace777 on November 24, 2005, 12:18:00 AM

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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on November 27, 2005, 09:56:00 AM

.... You guys got me all excited. I saw there were new posts in here and thought unrealskill was back. He was cool.

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Post by: ubernewb on November 28, 2005, 02:21:00 AM

wow.. first reply in a while and this sure looks different..  


haha, but back to topic.. you do know that the article you linked to isn't a CRX right? that's a 4th gen (92-95)hatchback, not a 3rd gen (88-91) rex. (3rd gen civic as far as year, but 2nd gen for the CRX.. no crx's during the first run of civics)

you could definately make a similar setup, but as the crx is lighter you could lower the psi a bit and still get the same eta's.

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Post by: Liquid Oxygen on December 19, 2005, 12:14:00 AM

Just to add in my 2 cents (didnt read the whole thread)

Civics dont need a lot of mods to make them quick, a proper turbo and tuning setup can produce excellent results.  This is my good buddies car, 93 Civic with an engine swap, your typical engine add ons such as headers and intake and a small turbo setup running 8-10psi.  Runs mid 13's at the track, hasnt been dynoed yet though.  

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Post by: jesterrace777 on December 19, 2005, 09:19:00 PM

Yes and no it depends on how you look at it.  Some people talk about engine swaps like it is absolutely nothing, for those with mad mechanical skills and access to professional equipment, you are right that it probably isn't that big of a deal.  However for the average tinkerer, that is a very daunting task, not to mention it is spendy.  I knew a guy who attempted to throw a V-Tech into his Prelude and he got it running but he had a mobile mechanic over there ALL THE TIME and he spent months putting that car back together with the new engine. Even a regular 1.5L Fuel Injected Civic engine isn't that cheap.  Even if you do all of the work yourself by the time you pick up the car and do all of that work to it, you would easily have $10K invested in the sucker.  You can pick up a mid 90s Z-28 in good shape for approximately $7K (or less depending on where you live) and could put in less than $2K in mods and it would run mid to low 12s.  So for the money and the amount of work put into it, the Z-28 would be a far more practical choice if you are talking about a quarter mile machine.  Anyways if you read the original post, the guy is braging about having a CRX with over 500HP.  I don't care what you say, a 500+HP CRX is gonna take a SHITLOAD OF MODS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by: StrictPuppet on December 20, 2005, 02:51:00 AM

This thread just refuses to die...hahahhaa... ahhhh the memories.....

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Post by: brutalsun on December 20, 2005, 03:29:00 PM

ALL MOTOR??? Did you not say 30psi?? WTF your car is not making boost all motor, and I can name 5 guys right now that would whoop that piece of shit you call a honda. number 1. Dan Taber Houston Texas... fastest stock block ls1 in the NATION 9.66 http://www.horsepowe...ia/MOV01296.MPG
2. My brothers Z28 10.11 250shot, heads,bump stick, headers, ls6 intake etc. tuned by Dan Taber and HPE. 2. 3.4.5. ANYONE at dsmtuners.com. You are so full of shit, The neighbors non running YUGO could take your ass. You bring disrespect to anyone tuning Hondas, I know several quick Hondas, but they do not BS numbers and lie about parts.

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Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on December 20, 2005, 06:58:00 PM

QUOTE(jesterrace777 @ Dec 20 2005, 05:26 AM)

Yes and no it depends on how you look at it.  Some people talk about engine swaps like it is absolutely nothing, for those with mad mechanical skills and access to professional equipment, you are right that it probably isn't that big of a deal.  However for the average tinkerer, that is a very daunting task, not to mention it is spendy.  I knew a guy who attempted to throw a V-Tech into his Prelude and he got it running but he had a mobile mechanic over there ALL THE TIME and he spent months putting that car back together with the new engine. Even a regular 1.5L Fuel Injected Civic engine isn't that cheap.  Even if you do all of the work yourself by the time you pick up the car and do all of that work to it, you would easily have $10K invested in the sucker.  You can pick up a mid 90s Z-28 in good shape for approximately $7K (or less depending on where you live) and could put in less than $2K in mods and it would run mid to low 12s.  So for the money and the amount of work put into it, the Z-28 would be a far more practical choice if you are talking about a quarter mile machine.  Anyways if you read the original post, the guy is braging about having a CRX with over 500HP.  I don't care what you say, a 500+HP CRX is gonna take a SHITLOAD OF MODS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah i remeber my brothers engine went up in his firebird and we had to put a new one in (the same motor mind you). His friend who is a mechanic helped us as well. It still took about 4-5 days.