Post by: havocaose on May 23, 2004, 11:15:00 AM
but oh wellim looking for a car with a really low center of gravity and a wide wheel base (ive rolled a car before, so i get really antsy with lots of body roll) something thats not too expensive (AT LEAST under $15000 which is still pretty expensive) and something with a turbo, im addicted to the noise of a bov. Some cars im thinking of would be a wolfsburg jetta (its got lots of suspension work done so it doesn't have much body roll) at first i was really looking forward to a wrx cuase im a huge rally fan but after i rolled that car (an x5
) i cant afford collision insurance. It seems like a few people around here are freaks with cars and im hoping they can point me to what to look for at a used car dealership. Btw im looking to buy a car in Minnesota.
Post by: jesterrace777 on May 23, 2004, 02:29:00 PM
Post by: UndercoverPunker on May 23, 2004, 02:33:00 PM
Post by: drozek on May 23, 2004, 08:18:00 PM
Post by: jesterrace777 on May 23, 2004, 10:55:00 PM
Post by: Lorre on May 24, 2004, 09:56:00 AM
| QUOTE (drozek @ May 24 2004, 05:18 AM) |
| speaking of jettas if u get one get a jetta with a VR6 omg it feels so good u like turbos my 2002 Jetta GLi has a stock intake and sounds like a turbo. wheels are huge stock 17'. http://www.cardomain.com/id/drozek3 this is my GLi i bought it for 19 used with 8k on it now it has 14k and runs brand new |
Hehe THAT's a Jetta?
Down here on the old continent we call that exact same car a Volkswagen Bora
This is the last generation of them to be called Jetta here:
The generation after this was called Vento, I mean these:
Dunnow if anybody cares, but car lovers might
If I where you, I'd go for the RX-7 though
Post by: nemt on May 24, 2004, 10:33:00 AM
Post by: havocaose on May 25, 2004, 05:56:00 PM
Post by: UndercoverPunker on May 25, 2004, 08:05:00 PM
Post by: jesterrace777 on May 25, 2004, 09:21:00 PM
I think you need to get your priorities straight here buddy. Either you are going to get a econo/family car or you are going to get a sports car. The one possible bridge between these two gaps that I was going to propose was the WRX (way over your limit anyways) and you said you don't want one. The closest thing I can think of to what you are looking for would be that Jetta but your parents are going to curb that as soon as they find out it is a turbo.
Post by: Lorre on May 26, 2004, 09:52:00 AM
This thing comes with a 1.6Litre Turbo engine, 160HP, dunnow if it's available in the States though
Honda Civic:
Comes with 200HP
What about a Miata? Those things are faster then you'd think.
Post by: Rylinkus on May 26, 2004, 07:51:00 PM
with his mention of the Fairlady Z, I dont think a powerful RWD car is a good choice as an only car in Minn. I know it's not in maine. Some sporty cars that may not seem overly sporty to your parents.......
Any VW with VR6. available in GTIs, Jettas, Passats, and Corrados.
Pontiac GTP. 4 doors. it cant be fast.
A 4 door integra GSR is a decent choice.
The Mazda MP3 is supposed to be pretty nimble. Not sure on Prices.
A Focus ZX3, or the PZEV focus would be decent.
Mainly keep your eyes open on deals that are local and test drive things to get a feel for what you like.
As far as Subies, even an a 2.5RS is decent. And can be upgraded.
I've seen older Quattros cheap.
Post by: havocaose on May 27, 2004, 05:05:00 PM
| QUOTE (jesterrace777 @ May 26 2004, 06:21 AM) |
| Hmm let's see wide-wheelbase, turbo, ect. What the hell did you think we were gonna do, post a family car? I think you need to get your priorities straight here buddy. Either you are going to get a econo/family car or you are going to get a sports car. The one possible bridge between these two gaps that I was going to propose was the WRX (way over your limit anyways) and you said you don't want one. The closest thing I can think of to what you are looking for would be that Jetta but your parents are going to curb that as soon as they find out it is a turbo. |
theres a big differance between wanting one and not being able to afford one... one every other forum on the internet my name is subarusti and my signiture is a picture of a wrc wrx
i might get an imprezza if i can find one (non turbo) for around $10,000
when i say a little less sporty, i mean something thats not 300hp or twin turboed.. i didn't say family car.
also, i believe I already said i was looking at getting a wolfsburg jetta and being turbo isn't the problem.. its actually finding the car and having it under $15000.. and hopfully not even that much becuase if i crash the car and its not my fault, it doesn't get fixed.
And ya im looking at sporty, one of my dads clients offered to sell me a quatro 97' audi a4 for only $7500 but its auto, and my heart is really locked on an manual. I was going to get an eclipse gt manual for a fair price a while ago but i checked again and its been sold. I live in south dakota so its gotta be either awd or f (front) wd.... but mic96 has a great point.. im really only thinking short term, my dad said id only have this car for a year or two.
And then theres the mazda mp3 with the new rear springs and rims for $12500 i was looking at... is that a fair price.. nowhere on the internet has the mp3 under its pricing quotes becuase its a special edition, but from what ive read its essentially a protege with better suspension and a nice sound system.
My dads first car was a 69 fastback mustang so hes not against me getting a real sporty car, i was origionally getting a NEW wrx.. right before i fucked up.
Heres the point to my post:
Which of the following cars on this list should be the ones to go after
Acura Integra
Mazda Protege (probably the mp3 edition)
Mitsubishi Lancer (possibly oz rally edition)
Subaru Impreza (or legacy... either way naturally aspirated)
Acura RSX
Honda Prelude
Nissan 240sx
Toyota Celica (i want the gt-s.. but i doubt ill ever see one)
Post by: havocaose on May 27, 2004, 05:11:00 PM
if i drive it a little and cant stand it i might fall back on the expensive ($$ to me) mazda mp3.. i repect anything rylinkus says about cars
Gonna be a long 2 years until i kiss that wrx
EDIT: or STi.....................
EDIT2: i repeated myself about 700 times in my preceding post.. just look past it
also rylinkus.. what kinda car you have and do you have any pictures? It sounds awsome from other posts
and about you sig quote... ferrari spent ( im not sure on the exact number.. i lost my magazine) over 100 million on aero for the design of its f1 car LAST YEAR ALONE
But it worked... except at monaco... shumi dnf'ed YES!!!!!
Post by: Rylinkus on May 27, 2004, 07:50:00 PM
I've got a post on my Probe here somwhere. It's been a long night though. Search "KLZE" and you'll find it for sure.
The MP3 thing, is that I love Mazda and have read a few reports on them putting an MP3 on an autoX course with Porches and it performed amazingly. Maybe not fast, but nimble as all hell. More so then anything else there that day. The Mazda Speed Protege is a remake of the Mazda F2T engine which was very tunable and tough as nails. It would make me think about buying either. The MP3 can be found for under 10K with some looking. My friend just looked at one.
As far as the other car's I've listed, they're all things I'd consider given the same restraints you have. Honda/Acura products are nice, but a bit overpriced lately IMO. The GTP has gotten some amazing reviews as of late. And certainly can be tuned to be faster then you'll need
While maintaining all the convenience of a larger 4 door sedan.The trick is to find what is right for you. Car's I'd be apt to buy given 15K are certainly not the same as others. And that's a very important factor when shopping. Decide what you'll need it for and what you need it to do and what's the most important. Then test drive an eliminate things that don't feel right. Then look for the bargain.
BTW: A4 and S4 are nice cars. Audis can be sweet as hell. It's about luxury. Don't let some jackass in a shitty mustang thats faster make you feel bad about a nicer car.
Post by: havocaose on June 07, 2004, 01:13:00 PM
plus it has every option.. bose stereo and sunroof.. leather, stuff like that.. im pretty happy with it actually.
Post by: Rylinkus on June 08, 2004, 07:47:00 AM
Post by: nemt on June 19, 2004, 04:31:00 PM
| QUOTE (Rylinkus @ May 28 2004, 12:50 AM) |
| Havo, I may be good with PCs and Xboxes, but cars are my forte. |
and modest too, ey renaissance man?
Anyway...I would've gone with the 240SX.
Post by: jesterrace777 on June 19, 2004, 09:38:00 PM
Post by: Rylinkus on June 21, 2004, 11:30:00 AM
| QUOTE (nemt @ Jun 20 2004, 01:31 AM) |
| and modest too, ey renaissance man? Anyway...I would've gone with the 240SX. |
Naw, I actually know about cars. I've got a new small project under way that I'll post pics of as I get going. I'm sure it'll impress no one.
As for a 240SX. Nice car, but a bit over rated. The KA isn't a bad engine, but certainly not what it could be and the SR engine swap is costly and time consuming then most people initially think when getting into the swap. Sadly I think it's far more difficult to make one fast then most people think.
That being said the A4 haws some veri nice features. Points 1-5 being class and refinement, something NO 240SX will ever have. And AWD and 4 doors are nice touches for people who need to use their car for something other then racing (Which is about 99% of the population sadly.) A4 is not a bad car at all.
Post by: l2andom on June 21, 2004, 07:13:00 PM
.. and they are very nice cars.. stock, if everything is where its supposed to be and in working order, they are nice cars to drive. And i think the RX7 wouldn't have been to great of a choice.. i wanted one, almost bought one. but didnt. I dont know why, i just didnt. Later on I met some people who had real bad experiences with RX7's with the seals and what not. But the audi isnt a bad choice, I wouldn't mind pushing one around 
OH, btw. I have a rb25 in my 93 fastback
Post by: jesterrace777 on June 21, 2004, 11:10:00 PM
Post by: l2andom on June 24, 2004, 09:58:00 AM
.. even with more 'reliable' ones .. but that shouldnt be a factor if u are a real rx fan
Post by: tommy2hotty on June 24, 2004, 12:46:00 PM
Post by: Rylinkus on June 24, 2004, 08:19:00 PM
| QUOTE (l2andom @ Jun 24 2004, 06:58 PM) |
| i know guys with FD's and their seals fail often also .. even with more 'reliable' ones .. but that shouldnt be a factor if u are a real rx fan |
As a real MAZDA fan I have a very deep respect for the rotary engines. And I've kept my car even though there are cheaper options. BUT.......
There is a point where owning a car that will NOT remain drivable is a bad idea if you don't have a very large income.
I have had 2 friends. One with a gorgeous FD. One with an 11 second TSI. Both were on the road almost as much as my Probe was off it in the span of a year, 2-3 months. (I think there was even a time when the TSI was running and my Probe wasn't) So while both were great cars when running, when they weren't they were hell. And we did every recommended mod to make the FD reliable. Just such a nice looking car, so hard to give up. Hella cooling mods. Single turbo swap to reduce heat. Upgraded Apex seals. Yadda Yadda, money money. The thing still blew it's 2nd engine after 1 month of getting it installed.
We ALMOST dropped and LT1 into it, but it would just kill the spirit of the car. I hope someday to own one. It is truly one of the most beautiful cars ever built and ranks up there with Astons and Ferrarris and Lotuses as far as looks go. But as far as unreliable cars I need to stay cheaper at this point in my life.
Post by: jp110099 on July 02, 2004, 05:54:00 PM
| QUOTE (havocaose @ Jun 7 2004, 04:13 PM) |
| well.. i got the audi.. here are some pics i took in my garage mycar it looks pretty nice for being a $7500 car, and it makes 190 horse at 5500rpms... too bad it isn't manual though plus it has every option.. bose stereo and sunroof.. leather, stuff like that.. im pretty happy with it actually. |
well since you have $7500 left over check out
Club B5 Its mostly the VW passat, but I think that most products are universal. And the engines are similar. Is it a 2.8l V6 or 1.8l turbo? Also, most people on that site will point you in the right direction.
Also, check out AWE Tuning and select your car and you can get a supercharger for the V6 which will give you 295HP i believe (it may be only on the Passat, but I think I've seen a site with an Audi that had one). Be very happy you got the Audi. The Audis and VWs are surprisingly very mod-able.
I have other sites. Message me on AIM.
Post by: jesterrace777 on July 03, 2004, 01:05:00 AM
| QUOTE (Rylinkus @ Jun 25 2004, 05:19 AM) |
| As a real MAZDA fan I have a very deep respect for the rotary engines. And I've kept my car even though there are cheaper options. BUT....... There is a point where owning a car that will NOT remain drivable is a bad idea if you don't have a very large income. I have had 2 friends. One with a gorgeous FD. One with an 11 second TSI. Both were on the road almost as much as my Probe was off it in the span of a year, 2-3 months. (I think there was even a time when the TSI was running and my Probe wasn't) So while both were great cars when running, when they weren't they were hell. And we did every recommended mod to make the FD reliable. Just such a nice looking car, so hard to give up. Hella cooling mods. Single turbo swap to reduce heat. Upgraded Apex seals. Yadda Yadda, money money. The thing still blew it's 2nd engine after 1 month of getting it installed. We ALMOST dropped and LT1 into it, but it would just kill the spirit of the car. I hope someday to own one. It is truly one of the most beautiful cars ever built and ranks up there with Astons and Ferrarris and Lotuses as far as looks go. But as far as unreliable cars I need to stay cheaper at this point in my life. |
Is it possible to drop one of the new RX-8 Renesis engines in one? They are supposed to have worked out the bugs that were problematic with the 14B Rotaries.