Post by: Xboxman20 on April 24, 2004, 03:10:00 PM
I know of a couple
Audiobahn
JL Audio
JBL
Bazooka
Post by: jesterrace777 on April 24, 2004, 10:09:00 PM
You really have to crank the JLs before you hear that sort of sound. Anyways IMHO, if you just want loud bass then go for MTX, Alpine, ect. If you want an accurate sub that isn't going to cost you $800-$1,000 then definitely go with JL. Kicker traditionally has also been very accurate however, I have heard that in recent years that thier quality has dropped off.
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on April 25, 2004, 11:46:00 AM
| QUOTE (jesterrace777 @ Apr 25 2004, 07:09 AM) |
| Kicker traditionally has also been very accurate however, I have heard that in recent years that thier quality has dropped off. |
Oh yeah, kickers pretty much suck now (imho). In my opinion get fosgate subs if you want to get cheap ones, and infinity kappa if you really want to spend some money.
But like stated above if you just want load bass any name brand sub will do (except sony, never buy sony when it comes to car audio).
Post by: jesterrace777 on April 25, 2004, 12:43:00 PM
Post by: bong888 on April 25, 2004, 12:55:00 PM
of the powerfull subs . in my opinion cerwinvega is the winner! good sound
huge DB
depends what kind of sound u like though, i like infinity quality but not big bass!
the new top off the range pioneer is quite nice, some thing like 600w Rms
cant remeber. to expensive and its a 12"
Kenwood Db+ good value 4 money solid 350Rms i uses to have 2 12"
Audio barn is very good as well.
Post by: Xboxman20 on April 25, 2004, 02:44:00 PM
I dont want like subs that just hit I want ones that are going to soound good crisp and clear and are accurate
Post by: MeNaCe911 on April 25, 2004, 03:06:00 PM
Post by: Zziggy00 on April 25, 2004, 04:33:00 PM
Post by: jesterrace777 on April 25, 2004, 10:16:00 PM
| QUOTE (Xboxman20 @ Apr 25 2004, 11:44 PM) |
| Yea my friend has MTX and they sound pretty good I dont want like subs that just hit I want ones that are going to soound good crisp and clear and are accurate |
Then JL Audio are what you want. On average they are a little more expensive per sub but do a comparison between even the W0 series (entry line JLs) and your buddies MTXs and you will see that the MTXs can't touch the JLs for clarity and accuracy. Also the type of box you get makes a big difference I recommend getting a sealed box for the best accuracy. Above all don't commit suicide with your soundsystem and get a bandpass enclosure. They produce maximum thump but I have yet to hear one that acutally sounds good. BTW a good amp is just as important. Just because an amp has lots of power doesn't mean it is good. You need to take a look at the Total Harmonic Distortion ratings (THD) as well as what voltage they were rated at. Cheap companies tend to cheat and put thier specs up at 14.4 volts when we all know that a car battery isn't capable of putting out such power.
Post by: Rylinkus on April 26, 2004, 12:26:00 AM
Post by: bong888 on April 26, 2004, 02:49:00 AM
| QUOTE (jesterrace777 @ Apr 26 2004, 07:16 AM) |
| Then JL Audio are what you want. On average they are a little more expensive per sub but do a comparison between even the W0 series (entry line JLs) and your buddies MTXs and you will see that the MTXs can't touch the JLs for clarity and accuracy. Also the type of box you get makes a big difference I recommend getting a sealed box for the best accuracy. Above all don't commit suicide with your soundsystem and get a bandpass enclosure. They produce maximum thump but I have yet to hear one that acutally sounds good. BTW a good amp is just as important. Just because an amp has lots of power doesn't mean it is good. You need to take a look at the Total Harmonic Distortion ratings (THD) as well as what voltage they were rated at. Cheap companies tend to cheat and put thier specs up at 14.4 volts when we all know that a car battery isn't capable of putting out such power. |
i would argee jl audio is better than mtx
i think JL audio have the world rercord 176db or some thing like that.
i have to say i like my boxes ported , there is more air move ment in the car.
i like to feel my hair move.lol
ul also need to decide on what size sub or subs u wanna get, is makes quite a big difference to the sound.12" - 15" 18"
or 10"
10" good qualitly sound ,not much sub movement
i have 2 cerwinvega 15" Hed 15" trust me not many subs come close to the sound of these!
running of my cerwinvega mono block amp . does not have enough power 4 these bad boys.
Post by: MeNaCe911 on April 26, 2004, 10:20:00 AM
then competition subs ...i like brumah and the RFL serious of MTX(RMS of 2000)
btw u wanna look at rms watts when lookin at speakers...its what really counts
Post by: jesterrace777 on April 26, 2004, 12:08:00 PM
| QUOTE (bong888 @ Apr 26 2004, 11:49 AM) |
| i would argee jl audio is better than mtx i think JL audio have the world rercord 176db or some thing like that. ul also need to decide on what size sub or subs u wanna get, is makes quite a big difference to the sound.12" - 15" 18" or 10" 10" good qualitly sound ,not much sub movement |
I agree on both counts. I personally prefer 10" subs for that reason, however if you go with 12" JLs you will still get a very accurate sub. Yeah, JLs do have that record due to the introduction of thier W7 subs. Keep in mind though that if you are running less than 1,000 watts to one of those subs you are under-powering the thing.
Post by: UndercoverPunker on April 26, 2004, 08:24:00 PM
Post by: Xboxman20 on April 27, 2004, 12:41:00 PM
Post by: ravage73 on April 27, 2004, 05:40:00 PM
Post by: jesterrace777 on April 27, 2004, 09:12:00 PM
| QUOTE (Xboxman20 @ Apr 27 2004, 09:41 PM) |
| Yea Im looking for either 12" or 15" and when i start working ill save up and have enough for 2 subs in about 2 months lol the subs alone im guessing will be 2 grand or a little less |
Whoa there man. Unless you are planning on getting into competitions there is no reason to be running more than 500-600 watts. While it seems cool at first to have a soundsystem that can be heard for 6 city blocks, you start realizing that you really can't use it for that on a regular basis, and while it might be cool at first to be listening to subs at thier full potential it gets old real fast. Also I don't know where you live but most cities have sound ordinances where you can earn yourself a fat fine. Anyways I would say that unless you are planning on getting into professional competitions that you would be just fine with a pair of 12" JL Audio W6s. They aren't going to handle 1000+ watts or anything but trust me when I say you don't need anywhere near that much with a good amp. A pair of 12" JL W6s will run you about $450-$500. With a nice JL Audio Amp that is matched to them the amp and subs should run you about 1K. I have 2 10" JL Audio W0 subs with 400Watts mono running to them and my car can probably be heard for about 100 feet. Not saying that it is the most impressive sound system out there, I am just trying to give you an idea of what kind of sound projection you would have (a pair of 12s would be much louder). I think that some people just go way overboard and blow 3K-4K on a stereo without really realizing what they are getting into. Fortunately, I had a bunch of buddies who went through countless setups during high school so I got a pretty clear picture of what it was that I really wanted before committing a bunch of money to a sound system.
Post by: Xboxman20 on April 28, 2004, 06:40:00 PM
Also who makes nice 6x9 speakers because The stock ones are getting rpped out the same day i get the car lol
Post by: UndercoverPunker on April 28, 2004, 07:00:00 PM
| QUOTE (Xboxman20 @ Apr 29 2004, 03:40 AM) |
| Competition Are stupid you cant eve go in the car when they are going. Im looking towards the JL Audo 12" 2 of those and a nice amp probably 1500-2000 amps to run my 6x9s' off it but im not sure yet Also who makes nice 6x9 speakers because The stock ones are getting rpped out the same day i get the car lol |
have you ever even picked up a crutchfield? No offense but you don't need anything EXCEPT a stock sound system until you can put forth the effort to learn the right terms to be using where...
I have competition 6X9's and they won't handle 1/4 of what you're talking about and they have 40oz sub-woofer magnets...(provided you ment to say watts, not amps)
Post by: Xboxman20 on April 28, 2004, 07:23:00 PM
Post by: Xboxman20 on May 02, 2004, 08:40:00 AM
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on May 02, 2004, 12:30:00 PM
Post by: Xboxman20 on May 02, 2004, 01:27:00 PM
BAscially im looking at the Jl Audio 12W7 Subs 2 of tHOSE
Post by: jesterrace777 on May 07, 2004, 12:17:00 PM
| QUOTE (Xboxman20 @ May 2 2004, 10:27 PM) |
| Yea im not sure yet BAscially im looking at the Jl Audio 12W7 Subs 2 of tHOSE |
I hope you pick up a big-ass amp to back those up.
1,000 watts would be starving one for power.
Post by: Xboxman20 on May 07, 2004, 04:03:00 PM
Post by: jesterrace777 on May 07, 2004, 04:59:00 PM
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on May 07, 2004, 09:45:00 PM
Post by: Xboxman20 on May 07, 2004, 10:01:00 PM
Post by: jesterrace777 on May 07, 2004, 10:44:00 PM
It is mounted right behind my passenger seat. This keeps it out of sight, while still giving me easy access if I should want to tweak the settings. The last one is of my subwoofer box, which houses two 10" JL Audio W0 subs (can't take credit for this, it was custom built). The idea was to blend it in with the car for security reasons. To the person just walking by it looks like a part of the car. The subs are covered by that black grill cloth that is dead center. The circular towers to the left and right house my 6.5" Eclipse full ranges.
You will have to forgive me as I can't get the hosting to work properly, so I will just link it to another place where I have all 3 posted.
I hope it works. 
http://www.dvdrom-gu...p?t=1596&page=3
Post by: Xboxman20 on May 10, 2004, 12:48:00 PM
Im going to get
x2 JL 12w7 Subs
x4 MB Quart but dont know which ones yet
x2 Amps Not sure on the power yet
x1 Bad Ass Deck lol
So which Mb quarts are bad ass?
ALso who makes a nice deck?
Post by: jesterrace777 on May 10, 2004, 06:05:00 PM
Post by: Xboxman20 on May 10, 2004, 09:06:00 PM
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on May 11, 2004, 09:23:00 AM
Post by: jesterrace777 on May 11, 2004, 11:46:00 AM
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on May 11, 2004, 12:41:00 PM
Mine always skipped even if the CD wasnt scratched (but would work if i took it out and reinsrted it a couple of times) and the CD Text wouldnt read half the time.
And yeah a detachable face would be nice, because the ESN wont do me any good know a theif has a paper weight. Not to mention at night i dont think the theif could even read the brand name untill he already took the radio.
Post by: Xboxman20 on May 11, 2004, 02:58:00 PM
KenwoodKDC-319 It was a nice deck I guess It never skipped and displayed the text and everything.
Ill post a pic up later im out to check eclipse decks lol
Post by: jesterrace777 on May 11, 2004, 02:59:00 PM
Post by: Xboxman20 on May 11, 2004, 04:31:00 PM
Post by: jesterrace777 on May 11, 2004, 06:37:00 PM
Post by: UndercoverPunker on May 11, 2004, 07:59:00 PM
| QUOTE (Xboxman20 @ May 10 2004, 09:48 PM) |
| So here we go lol Im going to get x2 JL 12w7 Subs x4 MB Quart but dont know which ones yet x2 Amps Not sure on the power yet x1 Bad Ass Deck lol So which Mb quarts are bad ass? ALso who makes a nice deck? |
Ummm if you want those JL's to move you're gonna need serious power, and if you're gonna go all "high end" and dish out the cash for w7's, why not get Adire Brahmah's or RE SE/SEXXX's???? I mean why pay a shitload for very good, when you can pay a shitload for the best???
Post by: Xboxman20 on May 11, 2004, 08:07:00 PM
Post by: UndercoverPunker on May 11, 2004, 08:09:00 PM
(I've spent over 1000 on audiobahn and blaupunkt, and I've only paid full price on 1 thing)...(the blaupunkt)
Post by: jesterrace777 on May 12, 2004, 01:37:00 PM
Post by: Xboxman20 on May 12, 2004, 02:02:00 PM
Post by: MeNaCe911 on May 25, 2004, 10:52:00 AM
| QUOTE (UndercoverPunker @ May 11 2004, 11:59 PM) |
| Ummm if you want those JL's to move you're gonna need serious power, and if you're gonna go all "high end" and dish out the cash for w7's, why not get Adire Brahmah's or RE SE/SEXXX's???? I mean why pay a shitload for very good, when you can pay a shitload for the best??? |
adires are the shit...them brahmas bump 1600rms flat for 12"s but those are competition speakers which are 350 each...just go with infinity...ima get some comp vrs...i dont wanna kill no one
Post by: jesterrace777 on May 25, 2004, 09:14:00 PM
Post by: UndercoverPunker on May 26, 2004, 07:54:00 PM
Post by: jesterrace777 on May 26, 2004, 10:51:00 PM
My 10" W0s cost $100 each and I have yet to find any comparable sub that can match it's clarity and accuracy.
Post by: UndercoverPunker on May 27, 2004, 09:30:00 PM
Post by: Rylinkus on May 27, 2004, 09:37:00 PM
Post by: UndercoverPunker on May 27, 2004, 09:41:00 PM
| QUOTE (Rylinkus @ May 28 2004, 06:37 AM) |
| I take that back....... Mine are a bit crisper then the RFs |
LOL (at RF of course)
Post by: UndercoverPunker on June 08, 2004, 06:31:00 PM
Post by: PhalC1 on June 11, 2004, 09:11:00 PM
Post by: jesterrace777 on June 13, 2004, 12:51:00 AM
Post by: PhalC1 on June 13, 2004, 07:14:00 PM
Post by: jesterrace777 on June 15, 2004, 09:57:00 PM
Post by: PhalC1 on June 15, 2004, 11:23:00 PM
Woofers
Post by: jesterrace777 on June 16, 2004, 10:36:00 PM
Post by: PhalC1 on June 18, 2004, 09:04:00 AM
Audiobahn AWC12T
Post by: jesterrace777 on June 18, 2004, 11:28:00 AM
Post by: PhalC1 on June 18, 2004, 03:06:00 PM
I was also wondering which is better ported or sleaded boxes?
*EDIT* What would be a good amp to go with those Audiobahns?
Post by: jesterrace777 on June 19, 2004, 04:25:00 PM
Post by: PhalC1 on June 20, 2004, 12:41:00 PM
Post by: MeNaCe911 on June 20, 2004, 03:00:00 PM
| QUOTE (PhalC1 @ Jun 18 2004, 07:06 PM) |
| I just want something that you can hear a little ways away. Something not too expensive, but not cheap. I was also wondering which is better ported or sleaded boxes? *EDIT* What would be a good amp to go with those Audiobahns? |
ported...and btw ima get comp. vrs myself...85 dollars each at ikesound.com
Post by: PhalC1 on June 20, 2004, 05:29:00 PM
Post by: MeNaCe911 on June 21, 2004, 10:36:00 AM
they are 150 with shipping there...
103.95 dollars shipped on ikesound
Post by: PhalC1 on June 24, 2004, 10:40:00 AM
Post by: UndercoverPunker on June 24, 2004, 08:05:00 PM
Post by: PhalC1 on June 24, 2004, 08:14:00 PM
Post by: Perplexer on July 10, 2004, 05:44:00 AM
Polk Momo MM12 and Fosgate P5002. Been too lazy to wire it up, I want to make sure I have time for a clean install.
Post by: No.1 G on July 29, 2004, 11:46:00 AM
Post by: jesterrace777 on July 29, 2004, 03:53:00 PM
| QUOTE (Perplexer @ Jul 10 2004, 01:47 PM) |
| Hey guys, what's your opinion on this combo? I got a GREAT deal on the components (sub was less than $100 shipped, and I traded some stuff to a buddy for the amp). I don't want to shatter any windows but want it good, clean, and loud. Polk Momo MM12 and Fosgate P5002. Been too lazy to wire it up, I want to make sure I have time for a clean install. |
Polk audio sucks ass. They are horribly overpriced and they blow out more than any other sub/speaker that I know (barring Sony Xplods). You should look into a JL Audio W0 as it won't be much more than what you paid for your Polk but the clarity and accuracy will be inifinitely better.
Post by: celinedrules on July 29, 2004, 06:03:00 PM
I wouldnt buy Polk Audio subs but I have 6 Polk/Momo speakers in my car and they are far better then anything I have had before.
Post by: dedfrog on August 01, 2004, 03:31:00 PM
After much debate between a Brahma or a XXX, which are both nearly the same cause they use the same XBL^2 motor, i finally decided to go with a Brahma 12 because a place close to me carries them, and I couldn't find an RE dealer anywhere.
Post by: UndercoverPunker on August 01, 2004, 11:04:00 PM
Post by: Owtlaw333 on August 02, 2004, 02:20:00 AM
(but I could be exagerating(sp?) a bit, but who cares... it sounds awesome). I had it running on 200 watts for a lil while (only thing I had at tha time... only had it for a couple weeks, but still...) and it still sounded great. I'm now running it at 500watts, and of course sounds better! haha
Post by: Altima NEO on August 14, 2004, 02:34:00 PM