Post by: Emc1683 on March 17, 2004, 09:51:00 PM
Post by: UndercoverPunker on March 17, 2004, 10:12:00 PM
into a Skyline 
... NOT GONNA HAPPEN...and I CANT WAIT to se a Ford GT on the road, first good thing fords made since the GT40
Post by: TyPe-ZeRo on March 17, 2004, 11:01:00 PM
Post by: zizux on December 30, 2002, 10:57:00 AM
Post by: whiffin on December 30, 2002, 10:58:00 AM
But friends are racers and I may give it a go on an empty road
Post by: zizux on December 30, 2002, 11:05:00 AM
You should buy either my 11 sec Firebird formula or my 3000GT VR-4 500 HP AWD monster.
Post by: zizux on December 30, 2002, 11:34:00 AM
| QUOTE (iam @ Dec 30 2002, 07:10 PM) | ||
I personally think they are a bunch of young immature retards with no conscience. They should stop watching TV and "The fast and the furious" and start understanding those guys are pro stuntman on closed circuits. They should also learn how to drive. Then, go on a race track if they wish to race. They are a real danger on the streets. I don't have enough fingers to count the number of kids dying from street race per year here. They all are under 18 and drive Civics or Integras. It pisses me off when I have the kids in the car and some jerks are driving all over the road. |
IMO these are just wana-be street racers. Or RICERS
Little punks in civics, integras, mustangs or whatever that race from light to light on common roads are jack asses IMO.
However I am a street racer. I also race at the local track (when its open while I am not at work). And I race SCCA Solo II. I have allways been around racing.
Yes there is a risk with street racing. But the fact is we (the people I think of as street racers, not ricers) are more safe than you are while driving to work or school or whatever.
Post by: M3_DeL on December 30, 2002, 11:42:00 AM
M3
Vette
Post by: zizux on December 30, 2002, 12:59:00 PM
I have been around racing almost all my life but have never even heard of a fatial street racing accident. I have however lost a few friends and some family members to accedents caused by everyday people.
Post by: rooicity on December 30, 2002, 01:05:00 PM
Why race in a boring car when you can get a much more bigger kick with a motor cycle ...
now that's REAL racing ...
Post by: zizux on December 30, 2002, 01:08:00 PM
Post by: rooicity on December 30, 2002, 01:24:00 PM
My first investment when i finished school and got a good job was a Honda CBR600F.
The picture is just one that i found on the internet, mine is almost the same except i got a dual-exhaust system that's under the passenger seatbelt instead of on the right side of the bike ( same as GP500cc Professional Racers have it )
Now i am looking for a nice car but haven't decided what to buy ....
Post by: zizux on December 30, 2002, 01:27:00 PM
I have all the basic bolt ons, bigger turbos, bigger injecters, bigger fuel pump, electronic boost controller, A/F controller/computer.
Post by: zizux on December 30, 2002, 01:28:00 PM
| QUOTE (rooicity @ Dec 30 2002, 09:24 PM) |
| Yeah i know ... My first investment when i finished school and got a good job was a Honda CBR600F. The picture is just one that i found on the internet, mine is almost the same except i got a dual-exhaust system that's under the passenger seatbelt instead of on the right side of the bike ( same as GP500cc Professional Racers have it ) Now i am looking for a nice car but haven't decided what to buy .... |
you should buy my vr4 you can check it out here
http://www.ut3si.org...izux/zizux.html
Post by: zizux on December 30, 2002, 01:31:00 PM
Post by: rooicity on December 30, 2002, 01:50:00 PM
| QUOTE (zizux @ Dec 30 2002, 09:28 PM) |
| you should buy my vr4 you can check it out here http://www.ut3si.org...izux/zizux.html |
With all respect ... i don't want an american car.
I live in europe and american cars are way to expensive here.
To heavy and they use to much fuel.
I only want german cars : BMW, Opel, Volkswagen and i am especially an Opel Freak ....
This is my dream car :
Opel Astra G
Post by: rerunn on December 30, 2002, 02:26:00 PM
Foolishness prevails, no matter what age.I'm usually a sane driver but sometimes I love seeing this face --->
when I hand a ricermobile his ass in my 4 door sedan (2k1 maxima)
Drive safe, boys and girlies
Post by: AdmStng on December 30, 2002, 02:31:00 PM
| QUOTE (Ace25 @ Dec 30 2002, 10:18 PM) |
| Hahaha.. most Americans dont want American cars.. they are crap.. trucks are a different story.. but I dont know of a single American car I would buy.. Even a mustang, although fun to drive, has tons of problems.. the '88 I was in had a $1200 computer go out twice in a year, among other major engine probs.. Stick with German or Japanese for cars.. I do like all the ones you listed there.. My soon to be roomate has a BMW, just got back from Germany where he bought it.. Not sure what it is, its silver, and a #, not an M3 or anything. |
If you own a mustang you beat on it, and if you beat on it your gunna have a nice tool set and jack cause your gunna be under the hood alot. then again if you take car of a mustang it will last forever. it's one of those cars you have to love to own. and r u sure your stang went 153?? i clocked mine at 130 somthing. but i had 373 gears.. zizux, i hope you weren't putting mustangs in the same class as ricers?!?!?!.. (i hate 4bangers that think they can beat 8's, and i HATE "the fast and furious) nice vr4, got spanked by one couple months ago
Post by: AdmStng on December 30, 2002, 02:41:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| I had an awd talon |
Post by: Ace25 on December 30, 2002, 02:44:00 PM
Post by: AdmStng on December 30, 2002, 02:57:00 PM
Post by: zizux on December 30, 2002, 03:11:00 PM
| QUOTE (AdmStng @ Dec 30 2002, 10:57 PM) |
| i'll tell ya that i would race anybody.. and i loved to race civics only because most kids in my school had 'em and after the movie fastNfur, they thought they were so fast. i loved seeing there faces when i smoked them.. then again, most cars in the mustangs class are faster than it (formula, transam, camaro, vr4,vette, etc) i don't race any more though, my car is totaled..(i should post the pics, lol) besides.. my true love is a 98+ trans am ram air!!! |
My next car will probably be a TA WS6
Neway I said mustangs cause I see a lot of punks rolling in stock mustangs acting like idiots. Yeah they are way faster then a civic but still GT's are worthless. Cobras are cool but over priced IMO.
As for the american vs jap crap opinions. HUH you should try having my VR-4 don't get me wrong its a great car, but very high expencive to maintain.
And BTW My VR-4 is known as a GTO (not an american car) where you live.
Post by: zizux on December 30, 2002, 03:13:00 PM
| QUOTE (rooicity @ Dec 30 2002, 09:50 PM) | ||
With all respect ... i don't want an american car. I live in europe and american cars are way to expensive here. To heavy and they use to much fuel. I only want german cars : BMW, Opel, Volkswagen and i am especially an Opel Freak .... This is my dream car : Opel Astra G |
I would rather have an M3 Or S6 but more power to ya
Post by: methadone_pretty on December 30, 2002, 03:30:00 PM
) - but a friend of mine has always been into faster cars. There isnt so much street racing over, you get the occasional cruise - most of the time its just supermarket car parks full of ricers with their baked bean tin exhausts and bled LED windscreen wiper washers.Post by: Ace25 on December 30, 2002, 03:43:00 PM
Post by: DaGamePimp on December 30, 2002, 04:03:00 PM
. My Civic is very extreme [ 480hp ] but so are many of the ones you see driving around [ don't think that your big V8 will eat any little Honda - Trust me , It Will Not ] . The problem is that most of these cars are owned by kids who just learned how to drive within the past year or two and they all act like Mario Andretti taught them to drive - WRONG ! They are not mature enough to handle the responsibility of a vehicle with more than 125hp let alone one with over 2 or 3 hundred . I have lost 2 friends from street racing over the past 10 years but they were very respectful drivers and would never put anyone in danger [ unlike most of todays young racers that cut you off without even thinking about what they are doing ] . I had this happen to me last year [ a young punk in an Acura cut me off ] so I followed him , he just happen to be going home so I told his parents how he was driving and that I had my wife and son in the vehicle with me . They were shocked [ big surprise ] and guess what , he lost his acura [ mom and dad took it away - hehe ] .
--- DGP ---
Post by: M3_DeL on December 30, 2002, 04:20:00 PM
Lets not go into M5's
Post by: makev80 on December 30, 2002, 04:24:00 PM
Kawasaki ZX-9R
Post by: M3_DeL on December 30, 2002, 04:30:00 PM
Post by: zizux on December 30, 2002, 04:34:00 PM
| QUOTE (DaGamePimp @ Dec 31 2002, 12:03 AM) |
| as long as you are respectful and don't drive like an IDIOT [ which many do - I agree it needs to stop ] then there is nothing wrong with being into sport compact cars [ Honda / Acura / Etc. ] . I own a built Civic SiR that is capable of leaving a Mustang GT at the line with a confused look on the drivers face [ Doh , how did that happen ] . Sorry to say I have beat many GT-VR4's as well as a couple of BMW M3's [ which I love by the way - One Slick Car ] . My Civic is very extreme [ 480hp ] but so are many of the ones you see driving around [ don't think that your big V8 will eat any little Honda - Trust me , It Will Not ] . The problem is that most of these cars are owned by kids who just learned how to drive within the past year or two and they all act like Mario Andretti taught them to drive - WRONG ! They are not mature enough to handle the responsibility of a vehicle with more than 125hp let alone one with over 2 or 3 hundred . I have lost 2 friends from street racing over the past 10 years but they were very respectful drivers and would never put anyone in danger [ unlike most of todays young racers that cut you off without even thinking about what they are doing ] . I had this happen to me last year [ a young punk in an Acura cut me off ] so I followed him , he just happen to be going home so I told his parents how he was driving and that I had my wife and son in the vehicle with me . They were shocked [ big surprise ] and guess what , he lost his acura [ mom and dad took it away - hehe ] . --- DGP --- |
hehe there is a civic around here with thoughs kind of numbers. Its pretty sick thats for sure, but I would rather have my cars.
If your car is anything like his, You will get your ass handed to you by cars that run up to a full sec slower in the 1/4 just cause you can't get out of the whole. On the track sure that might be another issue. And I am not the fastest car around, thats for sure. I might be able to be if I didn't have two cars. But thats not my goal. Two 11 sec daily drivers was my goal though. Can your civic run that without slicks and race gas? I highly doubt it.
Post by: zizux on December 30, 2002, 04:44:00 PM
IE if I was going to buy race gas at the track it would be 110, 115 both with lead. Unleaded is usualy a little harder to come by (at race tracks) but can be found around the city.
Running race gas in a basicaly stock car with not do jack for you... *Unless you advance your timming for it. And still the gains are not realy noticable.
My comment was due to the fact that I can only assume he is making all his power with a turbo. And race gas allows you to run higher boost = more power.
BTW I am also at 4200 FT. so my times would be much faster at sea level.
Post by: Potenza on December 30, 2002, 04:54:00 PM
I can drive 240 kmh on a normal road as well, i can race my 250 BHP car on the streets, but it doesn't make me feel more important, and it will not give me a kick.
However: racing in a 140 HP Renault against 40 other people at the same time on a closed circuit with only a few seconds between all of us....now that's a kick!
Street racin is stupid, dangerous, immature and doesn't proof you are a good driver. All it may proove is that you have the money to build a fast car.
Post by: M3_DeL on December 30, 2002, 05:00:00 PM
Post by: iam on December 30, 2002, 07:12:00 PM
| QUOTE (Steken @ Dec 31 2002, 01:57 AM) |
| as long as its organised well theres not that dangerous.... |
EXACTLY !!!
The problem is, I'm sure that over 90% of the so called street racers are NOT organised.
They take their honda, acura or mustang with their 6 months driver experience on the highway, find someone and then race between people like they're racing a World cup downhill and you're the poles...
I can't stand those fucking young jerks with their white caps, oakley minutes, listening to Eminem boum boum boum or fucking POD a wrist on the steering wheel the other on the shifter thinking they're fucking Vince Diesel and the road is their... Stereotype ? No I don't think so...
I will always have the biggest respect for someone who build and mod his car and then take some race driving lessons then go to a local race track and get the kick of is life... but please don't talk about a 17 year old driver that just got his license and follow me inches in the back thinking that because I have a fuckin Civic DX stock that can barely go to 100mph that I will act like an idiot and race with him...
hey look at the back of my car, this aint no NOS tank or 20" sub, thats 2 kids seats !
Post by: Steken on December 30, 2002, 08:07:00 PM
I do race on events also!! not just on the streets...
But streetracing is something special...
Post by: Rylinkus on April 04, 2004, 09:51:00 PM
I want to adress one point and one point only. And that's the comment made by someone earlier in the thread about some people are safer road racing then regular drivers. This is true to some extent. It still doesn't make racing safe. I'm not preaching from a soap box here. I too speed, and race here and there on public streets. I've driven SCCA events. Have had some decent days rallying. But all that doesn't change the simple fact that if I'm going double the speed limit, things are coming at me twice as fast as they normally would. Maybe my reaction times are slightly better then the average driver since I drive more. Maybe I'm paying better attention. Maybe my cars brakes are a bit better then most now. But it doesn't change the simple fact that shit happens much faster when you're speeding. Some kid jumps out in front of your car, a motorcycle turns onto the road, or a cars tire gives out. It's all a lot easier to cope with @ 45 then at 90. And it doesn't matter how long you've been driving or how good you are.
I honestly couldn't care if you're racing. but don't come up with reasons to justify it and make it ok.
Post by: DaGamePimp on December 31, 2002, 01:24:00 AM
] . It can get off the Line just fine by the way zizux , I don't need to run street slicks either as it does just fine with the 18 inch Racing Harts [ it has one of the best timed Launches at our local raceway ] . It all depends on how you approach it , some people start by building the wrong things [ areas of the engine ] and they will never obtain a fast car . I run a Full Race Turbo - yeah so what ... many of todays fastest cars are turbo charged or supercharged . It really doesn't matter what kind of vehicle you prefer but please do not knock certain types of cars just because some people want to drive them like fools
.--- DGP ---
Post by: kkattfish on December 31, 2002, 01:30:00 AM
Post by: Potenza on December 31, 2002, 01:45:00 AM
| QUOTE (iam @ Dec 31 2002, 02:12 AM) |
| EXACTLY !!! The problem is, I'm sure that over 90% of the so called street racers are NOT organised. They take their honda, acura or mustang with their 6 months driver experience on the highway, find someone and then race between people like they're racing a World cup downhill and you're the poles... I can't stand those fucking young jerks with their white caps, oakley minutes, listening to Eminem boum boum boum or fucking POD a wrist on the steering wheel the other on the shifter thinking they're fucking Vince Diesel and the road is their... Stereotype ? No I don't think so... I will always have the biggest respect for someone who build and mod his car and then take some race driving lessons then go to a local race track and get the kick of is life... but please don't talk about a 17 year old driver that just got his license and follow me inches in the back thinking that because I have a fuckin Civic DX stock that can barely go to 100mph that I will act like an idiot and race with him... hey look at the back of my car, this aint no NOS tank or 20" sub, thats 2 kids seats ! |
I'm happy there are some other sensible people in this forum.
And it is true, becomming a parent does change your driving style, off track anyway
Post by: zizux on December 31, 2002, 10:10:00 AM
| QUOTE (DaGamePimp @ Dec 31 2002, 09:24 AM) |
| My Civic SiR was not even close to $50k to build , I bough the car as a Total wreck and built it for racing [ you will find that many serious racers have done the same as it just makes more sense sometimes - you rip the whole car apart anyway ] . It can get off the Line just fine by the way zizux , I don't need to run street slicks either as it does just fine with the 18 inch Racing Harts [ it has one of the best timed Launches at our local raceway ] . It all depends on how you approach it , some people start by building the wrong things [ areas of the engine ] and they will never obtain a fast car . I run a Full Race Turbo - yeah so what ... many of todays fastest cars are turbo charged or supercharged . It really doesn't matter what kind of vehicle you prefer but please do not knock certain types of cars just because some people want to drive them like fools .--- DGP --- |
I wasn't trying to knock on your car for it being turbo. I am just saying for you to be making that kind of power with a honda motor (even an H22) you would need a turbo. BTW what kind of 60's do you pull?
Post by: SniperKilla on December 31, 2002, 12:04:00 PM
humm, then i can put humm about 15k in upgradesand be pushing ~650-700rwhp
damn i cant wait to get out of school
Post by: M3_DeL on December 31, 2002, 01:35:00 PM
great car
and yes a vette would only lose due to inexperiance
Post by: zizux on January 01, 2003, 07:52:00 PM
and a stock c5 isn't that fast. A civic with a guy who knows what he is doing should have to big a problem with one. Even with a good driver.
Post by: shanafan on January 01, 2003, 08:04:00 PM
Post by: Dark Schneider on January 01, 2003, 09:56:00 PM
Post by: mike96sc2 on May 03, 2004, 05:15:00 PM
| QUOTE (DaGamePimp @ Dec 31 2002, 05:24 AM) |
| My Civic SiR was not even close to $50k to build |
Um, what junkyard has cars America never even got laying around in it?
That's right, couldn't buy an SiR here in the Americas.
Anywho... Street racing is for people who have some kind of inferiority complex, like somehow risking your life and the lives of others to prove your inanimate object if faster than their object is just stupid. Besides, it's illegal and because of dumb-assed teenagers who do it we all have to pay higher insurance rates. So thanks again.
Nothing screams "Hey Look At How Small My Penis Is" more than a kid and his dumb friend revving the engine on their POS beater car then dumping the clutch at a green light while looking over at the car next to them.
Post by: SS-King on May 12, 2004, 03:12:00 PM
Post by: mike96sc2 on May 13, 2004, 04:43:00 PM
| QUOTE (SS-King @ May 12 2004, 06:12 PM) |
| Most of you guys hatin on street racers, but in fact when it comes to street racing i never see anyone harm anyone else, I know it happens, but considering how man illegal street racers there are to the ammount of wrecks a year there is no comparison, it is just the complete idiots who wreck, the others DO know how to controll their car and know what they are doing, just because some cant doesnt mean nobody can, I think its awesome street racing but I do know its stupid for the most part, but if you are going to call it stupid and talk so much crap about it then any racing is stupid, because no matter what, your car will go out of controll sometime when you least expect it, and no matter if it is on the track or on the streets, when you wreck, you're screwed. |
I'm going to have to disagree 100% with everything you've said. Your logic is the number of street racers in accidents is a lot less than the number of everyday accidents? I refuse to believe that until I see some numbers.
Also okay so let's say your right though and yeah street racers are in less accidents, accidents by the numbers include fender benders and such, so yes more people are in normal everyday accidents than street racers. Also when a street racer gets into an accident it's usually a fatality, of themselves or the car they hit. Suppose you're showing off in your car and you blow out a tire doing like 100, your car skids out of control and takes out 10 people. Don't say, "oh at 100 I can handle a front wheel blowout, because I doubt 99% of the people on the road could keep their car under control at 100mph with a blown front tire.
Also with street racing there is no "knowing what you're doing" because if you did you'd have the money to do SCCA or something like that, with training and licensing, and actually be a good driver. I know when a 17 year old kid in a hopped up civic plows into the side of a minivan because he was racing his friend down a stretch of public street and trying to show off how cool he is that he didn't know what he was doing. If anyone makes the "street racers are better drivers or safer" remark to me in person i swear i'll give them a fist straight to the balls. Because how is going 90 in a 35 safer than going 35 in a 35?
If you think street racing is awesome try huffing paint fumes, people say that's awesome too. Street racing is stupid period, there's no safety system, not structure to it, nothing. If I'm driving in a SCCA car there's rules I must follow on the track, there's safety requirements, there's ambulances and fire trucks on site, there's reinforements made to your car so in the event you do get in an accident you'll most likely survive. Also take into account in SCCA racing there's not a bunch of kids two feet from the track cheering you on just waiting to get clipped by your fender.
Bottom line is street racing is dumb and unsafe, you put people at risk who don't ask to be put at risk. Legal sanctioned racing is safer in every way imaginable, I know Rylinkus will back me up on that.
I disagree that if you wreck on the track you're as screwed as on the street. If I wreck on the street I could be taking out innocent people unaware to the risks. On the track it's me and at worst another driver who knows the risks as well. We'd have safety crews everywhere trying to save our lives. Street racers would have their fellow deuchebag buddies scramming to save their asses.
Edit: I forgot to thank all the street racers out there for the higher insurance rates.
Post by: SS-King on May 13, 2004, 05:43:00 PM
Post by: Rylinkus on May 14, 2004, 06:58:00 AM
-Things happen faster when you're moving faster. Braking times increases. And crashes become more dangerous.
The type of people that try to hide behind statements like, "Racing isn't dangerous for me, because I'm a great street racer", are the very idiots that cause the accidents. To think that your "superior" driving skills can counteract the dangers of racing is assinine.
Post by: SS-King on May 14, 2004, 10:29:00 AM
Post by: mike96sc2 on May 14, 2004, 05:19:00 PM
LOL LOLFast & Furious isn't reality.
When you're racing your '85 Celebrity does Johnny Tran come up on his moped and start shooting at you?
When your NOS (because calling it Nitrous just isn't cool) causes the rivets in your floor board to shoot out of your Celebrity is that real?
And moreover how does your Celebrity do when you try and hijack semis for the awesome neons underglows to make it faster?
F&F is so far from reality, to make your car fast do you add all the weight, the neons, the wings, the heavier wheels, the subs? NO
So you kids are taking after F&F and even if you weren't the kids in the movie are dumb just like the kids in reality. I remember going to see it and ont he way out every kid had to try and race out of the lot and peel out, made me feel sorry for these kids that they need to pretend they're cool instead of accepting who they are and being cool with it
Street racers are not better drivers, that's idiot logic, you're trying to justify a stupid act by saying you're smart.
Some day you'll realize that just because accidents happen it doesn't make it cool to go out and increase the likelyhood of an accident. That logic says because people are going to die someday I should go out and kill people? Just because shit happens doesn't mean you need to make it more likely. Thanks for the laughs.
Post by: Rylinkus on May 14, 2004, 08:15:00 PM
| QUOTE (RevoNole @ May 14 2004, 04:06 PM) |
| Street racers have a better mind for their car and what their doing than regular people do... |
That right there is the most ignorant line in this thread. It's typical ricer mentality. And it's the type of attitude that gets people killed. Look at me, I'm a better driver then you because I chronically speed.
And if the Fast and the Furious is based on street racers like you guys, you must be pretty fucking patheric racers.
Post by: UndercoverPunker on May 16, 2004, 08:10:00 PM
| QUOTE (mike96sc2 @ May 15 2004, 02:19 AM) |
| When you're racing your '85 Celebrity does Johnny Tran come up on his moped and start shooting at you? |
Yes.
"Who the fuck thinks they have the mind to tell us what to do?"
ME, cause if you hit me being a dumbass, YOU BETTER KILL ME. (Low tolerance for stupidity + Anger issues = not a good situation)
Post by: Rylinkus on May 17, 2004, 10:05:00 AM
| QUOTE (UndercoverPunker @ May 17 2004, 05:10 AM) |
| ME, cause if you hit me being a dumbass, YOU BETTER KILL ME. (Low tolerance for stupidity + Anger issues = not a good situation) |
Agreed 100%. You wreck my car being a jackass, be fully aware, you will get a beat down
Post by: mike96sc2 on May 19, 2004, 02:24:00 PM
| QUOTE (cityson @ May 18 2004, 03:25 PM) |
| BTW, 16 yr old is too young to be drivers...Government should pump it up to 20 at least (IMO). I appreciate ppl who 'never' go higher than speed limit they're truly skilled and experience drivers (IMO). |
Two things I couldn't agree with you more about.
I'd also like to see a law saying 10 - 16 year olds aren't allowed near a forum online, maybe the BS would be cut dramatically.
Post by: EyeCandyAccord on December 29, 2003, 02:42:00 PM